The Toy Train that Changed the World - Bachmann's 4-6-0 Baldwin Ten Wheeler in "G" scale

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Toy Man Television

Toy Man Television

5 жыл бұрын

In 1988 Bachmann started to produce large scale train sets called the Big Haulers based on a Baldwin 4-6-0 ten wheeler modeled after a locomotive from the "Tweetsie" railroad.
The train set had a retail price of $99.98 but usually sold for less in big box stores. Some could be had for only $25.00!! The train was not really intended to be a "model railroad" or even a garden railroad, but rather a toy. However with so much interest in garden railroading and the very high cost of the mostly LGB German equipment, the idea of a "garden railroad" for less than a hundred bucks, launched garden railroading into the main stream. The original locomotive ran on D batteries and used a small radio for control. The set also included 2 cars, a flat and a gondola as well as a caboose. Also a loop of all plastic track a road crossing, a set of power polls and a coaling tower. All for less than 100 dollars!
And the equipment a quite good looking, even if super lightweight toy quality. The locomotive is modeled after locomotive No. 12, the the last surviving narrow-gauge steam locomotive of the East Tennessee and Western North Carolina Railroad (ET&WNC), which ran service from Johnson City, Tennessee to Boone, North Carolina from 1919 to 1940. When the Tweetsie Railroad theme park opened with its first steam locomotive ride, one mile to a picnic area and back in 1957, this was its sole locomotive.
The No. 12 "Tweetsie" is a Baldwin Locomotive Works of Philadelphia 4-6-0 built in 1917
Set 90100 was the first set. The locomotives were battery powered and were radio controlled. In 1989 They began making train sets using track powered electric locomotives. In 1989 Bachmann also began selling locomotives, freight Cars, and passenger cars as separate items. Since the early years Bachamnn introduced a high quality line of prototype 1:20.3 locomotives and rolling stock in their Spectrum Line.
Founded in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the home of its North American headquarters, Bachmann is today part of the Kader group, who model products are made at a Chinese Government joint-venture plant in Dongguan, China. Bachmann's brand is the largest seller, in terms of volume, of model trains in the world. Bachmann primarily specializes in entry level train sets, and premium offerings in many scales. The Spectrum line is the high quality, model railroad product line, offered in N, HO, Large Scale, On30, and Williams O gauge all aimed for the hobbyist market. Bachmann is the producer of the famous railroad village product line known as "Plasticville."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachman...
tweetsie.com/explore-the-park...
shop.bachmanntrains.com/

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@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
New information!!!!!!! Annie is short for anniversary. The locomotive I said was spectrum was not. It was the anniversary edition. Almost spectrum quality. But the Annie name has stuck. All the 10 wheelers are called Annie. But really it’s just the really great anniversary train. Over one million of these 10 wheelers sold over 20 years. Now over 30 years.
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently, for a short time the improved Anniversary 4-6-0 was sold under the Spectrum range. You can spot the early cheaper 4-6-0s from sets because they have huge rivets on the smokebox. I think the later improved Anniversary 4-6-0s which are now in the Big Hauler range are similar quality to the 1:20.3 Spectrum range with metal details etc and 5th, 6th generation gear boxes. The latest ones have metal gears but much more expensive than they once were due to the metal gears and smaller production runs.
@robertrosson1990
@robertrosson1990 5 жыл бұрын
I have a few of the cheap rc bachman460 and I have modded a couple for myself.and then I have just a stock green first gen rc and my grandson loves it he has his very own little layout in the backyard that runs right along the side of my layout which is still under construction.With the awsome help with my little 5yr old grandson.Yes I agree the green version rc 460 isn't the best by far but to be able to get my grandson involved that's all I really care about.Sure I could save a few bucks and buy much nicer steam locos but for the time being the mods I make like fitting Lipo batteries and modding the electrical boards very careful I might add we have a blast to see who can hook up the most cars some flat cars with loads and see who can pull the most with them.Keep in mind we are not professionals by any means but with some research we have some pretty decent cheap RC 460s that are just fun to play with but for me seeing my grandson getting into the hobby and seeing him smile and use his little imagination makes my day.even us old guys can learn a lot from a youngster with a awsome imagination.
@cs94
@cs94 11 ай бұрын
I've got one in the attic. Many memories of setting that thing up around the Christmas tree.
@liam04294
@liam04294 5 жыл бұрын
I love that paint job you gave it
@hawikau1654
@hawikau1654 4 ай бұрын
Wow, memories of the big Haulers, the Blue Comet, Denver & Rio Grande Gold Rush edition, Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe, and the Denver & Rio Grande Western. Still have them with tons of track for a future outdoor setup that never happened.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 ай бұрын
Still fun too
@johnbeck3270
@johnbeck3270 2 жыл бұрын
Bachman did some other releases of the ten wheeler. I have 3 green ones, two are lettered for the Holliday Express the other one is the Green lightning lettered for the Santa Fe. I have collected one that was lettered for their first circus trains. I decided to upgrade these locos to track power. Bachmann has released the complete chassis from different runs. Either standard or anniversary models.the really interesting part is the upper portion is still the same even the boiler blackhead is the same, only no battery terminals. Been happy so far with the results.
@IndustrialParrot2816
@IndustrialParrot2816 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I've got a red comet set coming in the mail it was supposed to arrive on Saturday but it was delayed by the snow and I don't know where it is now probably in a UPS facility in Tacoma
@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447
@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447 Ай бұрын
9:02 this engine look beautiful! I would definitely do that mod to a Bachmann big hauler!
@kerridillon3120
@kerridillon3120 5 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new when I watch your channel! Thank you Mr. & Mrs Toyman...happy Summer! 🤗
@slam854
@slam854 5 жыл бұрын
That is a fascinating bit of toy train history. Bachmann has gotten a ton of people involved with model railroading and there is nothing wrong with that. My first N-scale was Bachmann with their introduction of Uni-track. I put a double track Sante Fe Mikado and Sante Fe SD-40 pair pulling freight around a large table. Track was the week link in the system after a time.
@jimkammerer8028
@jimkammerer8028 2 жыл бұрын
ANOTHER AWESOME VIDEO FROM YOU TOY MAN THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR TIME VERY GOOD INDEED THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH US YOUR SUBSCRIBERS THANK YOU AGAIN JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA NORFOLK SOUTHERN RULES MY RAILS
@13thBear
@13thBear 4 жыл бұрын
I bought two Tweetsie sets- one a passenger set, the other a freight hauler set. It was fun to run them around the living room, but the missus was not amused and I boxed them up. Now they languish out in the garage.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
Some 20 years ago when I was single every Christmas I would set up the Christmas train. At the time I was living in a really big house. Number one gauge traffic going through every single room! And as many as three trains running at the same time. One year I even put up a Christmas tree.
@cbgadget4740
@cbgadget4740 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video of a historic train. Great history indeed 👍👍👍😎😎😎
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! What a toy. Er.. model.
@michaellindsay6735
@michaellindsay6735 5 жыл бұрын
Bachmann model train are really nice train
@bubbaskywalker3129
@bubbaskywalker3129 5 жыл бұрын
Got a Big Hauler a tweetsie model when I was little. That was a HUGE deal!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Right? What a Christmas gift!
@Benjamin0119
@Benjamin0119 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Virginia and Truckee "Silverado" set. Fell in love with the beautiful paint scheme on that engine. The cars look nice too. I eventually got the baggage and coach to add on and I joined a garden railroad club. Having tons of fun with it. I think I latched onto it because I was looking at HO 4-4-0s on Bachmann's website and decided to see what they had in large scale and was just the super expensive Spectrum stuff for 4-4-0s. I had been wanting a colorful old timey engine for a while, so after months, if not more, of pining after this set I finally picked it up, for around $300, ordered from a hobby shop in California. The MSRP is $540... so that is their trick lol. I feel like I am in Bizarro Land since you usually get a discount from ordering direct from manufacturer, or at least you used to! Still a good deal in my book since some engines alone can cost that or more even in smaller scales! The prices on some of this stuff is ridiculous! And I would not call it "crappy" by any means. Certainly not after the years of improvements you talked about. I also already had a Jack Daniels Aristo-Craft set my grandma gave my that she won in a grocery store drawing years back. My interest was already there for G scale though and this did not deter me from the "Silverado" set. Been having a great time with both sets! There are videos of the trains on my KZfaq. Glad you made this great video and covered this topic, Toy Man!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. One of the fun things about that 10 wheeler is it’s a narrow gauge engine and modeled in pretty much 122 scale, but it also works pretty nicely as a 1/32 scale standard gauge locomotive! A bit big for that but so many do standard gauge in 1/29 scale and it’s right at home as a 1/29 standard gauge V and T Baldwin ten wheeler! Drivers just a bit small. But just a bit. Super close to scale! Just luck I assume but who knows, Bachmann may have had that in mind all along!!!
@w.e.n8030
@w.e.n8030 5 жыл бұрын
Love the simplicity of those train sets. Got two of them.
@legiontheatregroup
@legiontheatregroup Ай бұрын
Great video. I was a multiple buyer and customizer when these first came out as well. Before Bachmann started making Spectrum G gauge locomotives they also made a different design track powered steam engine (briefly), a 2-4-2 Columbia in old fashioned and modernized versions. Really great little loco which appears to be based on one that ran in Hawaii and is still around today. They also made an 0-4-0 saddle rank porter before upgrading that to Spectrum. Then the highest detail models came when they decided to adopt 1.20.3 scale (I hope I got that right) which were slightly larger models running on the same gauge track. Alas, they seem to have abandoned that market - I think the only new G gauge item in their last catalogue was the fantasy toy Eggliner in a new paint scheme. The glory days seem to have passed with only Piko and LGB mass producing G for the US market as far as I am aware. Hartland and USA Trains (as well as Aristocraft) all having exited the market. But they left us with a wealth of great models to play with forever!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision Ай бұрын
Yes, Bachman has pretty much given up on F scale, and On30. Really sad because those were their best products I think. They seem to be concentrating on HO, and returning their large scale to the toy train market.
@krissfemmpaws1029
@krissfemmpaws1029 5 жыл бұрын
Talk about a trip down memory lane, I remember seeing those at Kmart and almost got one for my little brother.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
50 bucks!! 25 on close out. Ok that’s about 250 and 125 in today’s money. But still....
@krissfemmpaws1029
@krissfemmpaws1029 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision I know I was looking at them on Christmas Eve yeah they were marked it $35 I think it was almost in my budget
@Rob741741
@Rob741741 5 жыл бұрын
The early RC Big Haulers were excellent kit bash fodder. I bought 3 of these sets in 1990. I still have the rolling stock; the locomotives, however, had been modified to the point where they would no longer stay together.. I have a total of six Spectrum "Annies" that I've purchased over the years and I still run the heck out of them.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
I think everyone has one. Or two. Or 10. I wanted a backyard railroad sooo bad. But could not afford it. One of these and then bit by bit. Over time. I had 100 feet of track in the yard. Then 200 feet. Then 600 feet. And some great trains. But I still ran that first locomotive as much as any.
@washingtontrains2593
@washingtontrains2593 5 жыл бұрын
Extra good show Toy Man!! I really like the Big Hauler line of trains and rolling stock.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
What a home run for Bachmann
@vgzwymux8569
@vgzwymux8569 5 жыл бұрын
Those were great fun for me as a kid. I got two of their later sets (the newer of which is still used at Christmas time).
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Seems everyone had one or two. Super cool.
@deandanielson8074
@deandanielson8074 5 жыл бұрын
Dale, what a wonderful story of the Bachmann Garden train sets and how they, in effect, created a whole new spectrum (pun intended) of trains. You also showed us your skills in modifying those cheap locomotives into beautiful, valuable "keepers." You are a fascinating guy and the two of you are a wonderful couple. Thanks for an instructive and entertaining video. Dean from Minnesota
@michaellindsay6735
@michaellindsay6735 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@TRAINBUILDER
@TRAINBUILDER 3 жыл бұрын
My first G scale train! My grandpa bought me it in 89 I believe. Needless to say it was Kit bashed and taken apart about seven ways until it was eventually scrap.. Definitely got our money’s worth.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming that that’s what happened to almost all of this. Surprises me that brand new ones keep popping up on the collector market. So I guess a lot of people bought these put them around a Christmas tree and then put them away forever? Or stores have some if they never sold? Something like that
@TRAINBUILDER
@TRAINBUILDER 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision Exactly! Like yours I too assume manny fell victim to Kit bashing etc. Very cool loco that yes changed the world. Great review ☝️
@growclipbonsaiforseniors1951
@growclipbonsaiforseniors1951 2 ай бұрын
Nice information.
@War1109
@War1109 5 жыл бұрын
I have the ringling bros. Big hauler set and for a first proper g scale train set I was very impressed especially seeing how Bachmann can be with their quality 🤣
@violetbrown5038
@violetbrown5038 5 жыл бұрын
I love bachmann by Williams .
@milepost3926
@milepost3926 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys once again great little video nice history of the 4/6/0 I also have six of these myself I’ve retrofitted in with the new anniversary chassis and kit bash them down they all look fantastic and run greatHave a great day and can’t wait till the next video
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
I’m going to fit my first loco the 25 with the new chassis. Show in 2 weeks!
@JAMESMANHUNT9
@JAMESMANHUNT9 5 жыл бұрын
The Annie chassies are awesome I rebuilt my wonderland flyer for under 100 dollars with a new shell and Annie chassis. I have a Annie chassis on the back of my challenger and a standard 5th gen on the front
@dkneuer
@dkneuer 5 жыл бұрын
I had this set back in the nineties. Converted it to run off track power by putting metal wheel sets on the tender. Ran fine.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea!!!
@logancoker5205
@logancoker5205 2 жыл бұрын
I have got that engen. Great video thanks.
@dejulesb7063
@dejulesb7063 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same set with everything except the poles for electricity. And got it for free because a friend of my moms knew that I liked trains and had that one for a long time, and game it to me.
@FL70NJ
@FL70NJ 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and information! IHave about a half dozen different Big Hauler sets including the circus set with an Emmet Kelly figure.
@kenshores9900
@kenshores9900 5 жыл бұрын
You did it again. Great tale.
@gamepad3173
@gamepad3173 Жыл бұрын
I just got my first Bachmann G scale train. at least now I have an engine that can haul 15 vintage and one Gondola christmas cars.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision Жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions Жыл бұрын
Fun fact of the day: this engine is actually based on East Tennessee & Western North Carolina railroad 4-6-0 number 12, often called “Tweetsie”. ET&WNC 12 is currently operational and works at the Tweetsie Railroad theme park in Blowing Rock, North Carolina.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision Жыл бұрын
Yup!!! Great locomotive.
@SouRwy4501Productions
@SouRwy4501Productions Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision it sure is. I’ve ridden behind 12 a few times before and I can say that she is a great locomotive.
@steveokon5431
@steveokon5431 5 жыл бұрын
That was quite interesting piece of history !! Thanks !
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
More on that loco Tuesday
@robertweldon7909
@robertweldon7909 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding!!! I often wondered about these trains. At that time I was strictly HO. No longer. Then you mentioned how On30 got its start. I kind of guessed that it started out just as you said. Cool stuff and excellent screwing around. Guys; I have come to except that when it comes to scale modeling, any form of it, you all stand out above all others as, cover your ears, EXPERTS. I look forward each week for your next video releases. keep up the great work. ;-)
@nepete7
@nepete7 5 жыл бұрын
There was some On30 AKA On2 1/2 since the 1960s, but Bachman certainly brought in commercial parts of it - all one man conversions and basement business before them. “Spectrum” was Bachman’s quality HO Line, came out in the 1990s about the same time Life Like, another cheap trainset line, came out with their quality Proto 2000 models.
@nateroberts7567
@nateroberts7567 5 жыл бұрын
I really love these things. I actually went and saw Tweetsie in 2016!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
We want to see that!!!!
@roaenokesyzlak7828
@roaenokesyzlak7828 5 жыл бұрын
I love my ON30 stock, i have one of the OG Great Northern passenger set, and about 9 rolling stock on kato unitrack. It's a carpet Central as of right now, i dont have space for a perminant set up
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit Жыл бұрын
You might have already been told this but railroaders don’t call the spark arrester a bear trap. They call it a ridgeway spark arrester. Also I have that Budweiser on30 train lol. I don’t see many of them.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision Жыл бұрын
Well…. The C and S did! And they had the best ones!
@TrainBandit
@TrainBandit Жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision maybe so but railroaders all call them ridgeways but you bring up C&S and immediately I think of no71 ,60,and no9 and I think it would be amazing to restore them trains. After all it’s just a hobby and in the end you can call it what ever you like. I have to say though that kit bash job you did on your ten wheel is amazing for a 50$ train set. Looks great
@davedeiler2072
@davedeiler2072 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, have never heard that story before. Thanks.
@milwmodeler3752
@milwmodeler3752 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention the plastic coal tipple. It was shown in the promotional photo, but I'm not sure if it came in the set. My father came home with that set probably the first Christmas it was released and I remember we had the coal tipple too. I just cannot remember if it was in the box or not. I don't remember the remote. As I recall, we had to turn it on and let it go, but that could have been because the remote was lost or broken before my memories solidified. Funny story, one year I decided to eat an entire box of Honey Nut Cheerios from the gondola (with milk). One spoonful per lap for an entire morning of cartoons. It was a one piece mold so held liquid quite well.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup the tipple came with it. Plasticville. They made HO plasticville kits for about 50 cents. Snap kits no glue. The tipple was just that basic too. And the only thing like that they ever made. But in all, it looked pretty good. Heck of a way to eat Honey Nut Cheerios. Great memories!!!!
@cnwtrains
@cnwtrains 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Union Pacific 4-6-0 and it's one of my best engines I've ever bought in G scale it was my 1st engine as a electric starter set and ever since then I am hooked
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. You and a million more started with the “Annie”. But got hooked on a new hobby.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 5 жыл бұрын
The locomotive at 7:57 the "White Pass" version could be real with a caveat of the number 10 in that the Alaska Engineering Commission bought a 4-6-0 No. 152 from Baldwin in 1919 for use on the 3-ft trackage out of Fairbanks, Alaska until the bridge of the Tanana R. at Ninana was built. During WW II the loco was sent to the White Pass Rte. for use on the relatively flat Whitehorse to Dawson section. After the war it migrated to the PNW then was sold to the Genesee County Parks & Recreation Commission for the 1976 bicentennial project of a railroad and old time town on park property where it has run since as No. 2 and No. 152. It and the Tweetsie ( East Tennessee & Western North Carolina RR out of Johnson City, TN) No. 12 only real difference is driver diameter by one inch. The No. 12 was built by Baldwin in 1920. The ET&WNC RR painted their locos Southern green. Both locos have Walscherts valve gear and slide valves.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve often thought about bagging one of those. At least riding the white pass. My mother did. Then her ship hit an iceberg. Long story. But in spite of that I would love to ride it!!
@cwhuffman01
@cwhuffman01 4 жыл бұрын
The White Pass #10 was a real locomotive, although the scheme is not 100% correct. The Army purchased ET&WNC #10 and #14 during the war, so the White Pass #10 scheme is meant to depict that directly.
@thename9552
@thename9552 8 ай бұрын
That's the exact set I have big hauler.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 8 ай бұрын
Fun. Affordable.
@gregsmith1719
@gregsmith1719 5 жыл бұрын
It changed my life, too! I had been into HOn3 and could hardly get it ion the track. So the Big Hauler was wonderful for someone with big clumsy hands. Plus, it ran on batteries! It didn't need electric track! I was a furniture maker and had lots of wood so I make wooden track all over my shop! Then rechargeable batteries came out and I was hooked. I never got it outside. It just ran all around my shop and dirty track meant nothing! But, I have been waiting for them to make a better radio controlled system and they went the other way and turned it into another electric track train! Rats! Now we're back to all the problems with electric track. Hey, real trains don't run on electric track! So, I'm still waiting. In the meantime I converted my HOn3 layout to On30 and love it. Keep it up, Dale!
@SchittyIntern
@SchittyIntern 5 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video! I have 2 of them myself, a royal blue from the mid 90s, and a Chattanooga set from 2000. The nickname Annie was given to the version of the ten wheeler released in 2008 because it was the anniversary edition. Bachmann are now going to release an updated version of the ten wheeler with all new electronics in the tender.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
They don’t seem to be interested in making any new G scale but at least new versions of old ones
@FastSports-ScaleCarGarage
@FastSports-ScaleCarGarage 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Well done!
@TweetsieRailroader
@TweetsieRailroader 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video! I've seen the prototype, ET&WNC #12, several times in operation, and alongside her trackmate, WP&YR #190, It's become my all-time favorite locomotive (I love them so much, both tie for the #1 spot). I also happen to own the Bachmann Big Hauler in the "Tweetsie Railroad" Paint Scheme, and it's my favorite locomotive in my entire model train collection.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 4 жыл бұрын
Really wanna see that railroad 🚞. We don’t get East often. Need to get “back”” there more. But REALLY wanna se this.
@Brianrockrailfan
@Brianrockrailfan 5 жыл бұрын
awesome toy man :)
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@michaellindsay6735
@michaellindsay6735 5 жыл бұрын
I think Bachmann model train are really nice train I have 5 sets
@emdB67
@emdB67 5 жыл бұрын
Besides the D batteries, I seem to recall that there was an adapter included that allowed you to use an R/C NiCad battery pack instead. I sold these sets in 1988/89 - and every single one of them failed within months of their sale. It was a radio problem. Mechanically they were fine. Then they released the track-powered models - and most of those failed as well - usually split gears. Put me off the range for a long time.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Mine never failed. But I hear you. Many problems. But..... $25. The split gears problem was huge. All of the early - early as first 20 years, the moguls and 4-4-0s. The first shay. Now that one took the cake. And pie. And cake again. Gears often fail in the first 40 feet. Yet... I love it. I fixed it. They gave me a kit. Free. Easy fix. And I love that little shay. So mixed bag. Oddly the problems seemed to disappear after the Chinese took over the company. Not sure what to think about that but love to share drinks with the old Bachmann developers here in the US. (Again) and get their take on why models they were not ready were always released. And how and why the problems seem to be fixed. And why they are not developing any new G scale.
@emdB67
@emdB67 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in Australia, so we didn't see them that cheap here. I can't remember the selling price, but I know they were still great value. The only G scale I'd seen cheaper was in the mid 80s when a local Safeway supermarket in the regional town I lived in had some Chinese knock-offs of the LGB battery train set. This was in December. They were AU$19.95, which was already a bargain. But they knocked them down to an incredible $10.00 in the week before Christmas, so I bought one. Should've bought several. They were the same as the old LGB battery set of that era, other then the China Rail symbol on the smokebox door and the hooded headlight. Oh, and a much lower-quality mechanism - not that I ever had the LGB version, but I'm sure it was better quality. I never had any issues with the battery Big-Hauler gears splitting. But that may be because the radios failed before they had a chance to do that. Most of the electric models did it though - except the tram / trolleys. Good memories regardless.
@boomerps2
@boomerps2 5 жыл бұрын
Still can't beat the quality of LGB
@mosborne9878
@mosborne9878 5 жыл бұрын
No, but you can get close enough with USA and (from the past) Aristocraft. I've had flawless luck/performance from both.
@nathancorcoran5347
@nathancorcoran5347 5 жыл бұрын
Happy 4th of July, toy man television.
@michaelcerza871
@michaelcerza871 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for a very informative historical look at the beginning of the Bachmann large scale train model business that has grown and has been very successful for the company. It is amazing how they went from the cheap battery model to the high quality Spectrum line, and yet are still using the molds for the large scale train sets with the Baldwin 10 wheeler, and the higher quality version you mentioned in the video that I believe they called the "Anniversary Edition 4-6-0." As of 2012 in their catalogue, they indicated they had sold over a million of these engines. You were right, they certainly helped to get many people in the garden railroad hobby, but unfortunately, forced LGB into bankruptcy! Thank you so much for sharing and your love of the hobby! I am sorry, after I placed my comment I read your just under mine and you explained the very things I had mentioned. Great minds think alike - Ha, Ha! I do have the first edition Shay or 1st run and recall Bachmann sending the metal gear replacement trucks to me for free. It is a beautiful engine.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for the wonderful comment! Yes I mistakenly called the anniversary edition of spectrum which I guess it never was. It’s still a really great model and I thought it was part of the spectrum line. But I dearly love the spectrum engines. It’s a shame that so many of them have had to gear problems. That’s the newest ones don’t have any of those problems they’re really great. Sure like to see them do a new model however
@michaelcerza871
@michaelcerza871 3 жыл бұрын
How many of the original battery 10 wheeler sets do you still have?
@ronniedavis3713
@ronniedavis3713 2 жыл бұрын
Dale, I know that this is one of your older videos , But I've watched it 10 times within the last month !!! I just purchased 2 of these locomotives the 49Mh and the 27MH off EBAY and trying to find parts for these thing are "NIGHTMARE" !!! I had to find and replace the speaker cable on one and find a 27MH controller for the other, If you are a RC Car driver you can use some of your old transmitter on these trains but it will take a little work to program them. All in all I got them to run outside on my "New" R&P Lumber Co layout here in Colorado. Dale have ever ran them in the snow there in Utah when you cleared the track ??? And how did they run ???
@r.a.monigold9789
@r.a.monigold9789 5 жыл бұрын
Great "history lesson". Lots of detail. Bear Trap spark arrester? Yea, there was an interesting journey for me. Bear Trap. But what are the two "55 Gallon Drums" sitting athwart the boiler feeding? Their purpose? I've looked at several pics of the arrangement online - but no explanation. Anyhow. I dig your "visits to the attic" videos best - it's you explaining scale things using your gear. When you visit places (still OK) we see OTHER people's works, all with good "story telling" - but. While I do not make videos, I can still appreciate the time and effort that goes into "just sitting and talking" - a LOT. Well, I've spent both my pennies on this (2 cents worth) and I'm still here. Thank you for sharing...
@Sjoc78
@Sjoc78 5 жыл бұрын
The 10 wheeler wasn't done as a Spectrum, but the Annie name comes from the Anniversary edition (that you called Spectrum). The original was never called "Annie." You can buy the "Annie" chassis from Bachmann for like $50-60 and retrofit your old battery engines.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. That’s the show in 2 weeks. The retro fit. Thanks for the history. I was told that was a spectrum.
@Sjoc78
@Sjoc78 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision Looking forward to your take on the retrofit. I've done 3 so far and found it to be one of the best bang for your buck in large scale. Next project is turning one into a 20.3 scale RGS 20
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull 5 жыл бұрын
It was initially when Bachmann was doing various scales in their new Spectrum range. Even the first 1:22.5 Lyn 2-4-2 was a Spectrum but the much improved metal geared re-release is in the Big Hauler range. Now Spectrum is only 1:20.3 scale.
@hamiltonsullivan6563
@hamiltonsullivan6563 5 жыл бұрын
Hay toyman it's been a while been waiting for a train video!!!!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. I promised it. 2 more. Then another car.
@hamiltonsullivan6563
@hamiltonsullivan6563 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision awesome could you possibly do an update of those f-units... Please!!!
@williamreimund9001
@williamreimund9001 5 жыл бұрын
Have one of the G scale, and the HO also for my Dept. 56 village...
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Home runs for Bachmann.
@knifetrain3118
@knifetrain3118 5 жыл бұрын
Cool story Dale! 🚂
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Great slab of history. Served on toast. With beans. Which I am full of.
@johngassett1946
@johngassett1946 26 күн бұрын
My family had a set exactly like that for under the Christmas tree it was used from 1989 to 1991 6 years later we used for the golden spike set the locomotive got ruined bu battery acid
@pbyfr
@pbyfr 5 жыл бұрын
Quite interesting. It reminds me of the Fleischmann magic train that was quite popular here in the 90s. 0e16.5 (On30 in Europe) wasn't very popular before it, but the magic didn't last very long. But like Germany, it was quite Germanic centric.
@trainzguy2472
@trainzguy2472 5 жыл бұрын
Wow!! I didn't know one model train started all sorts of trends in model railroading! Very informative and captivating video. One recommendation: Do NOT store the batteries inside your trains! I learned this the hard way, when 6 AAA batteries leaked inside my Lego trains. I had to repair two locomotives whose battery cases were completely stuck shut and corroded on the inside. That was a tough one! Even if you're only storing them for a month or so, take the batteries out.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. I was shocked to see I left them in there. Oops! Bad form!
@michaellindsay6735
@michaellindsay6735 5 жыл бұрын
I do have that g gauge model train set too I got it at trainshow 2yrs ago I love backmann
@jml8975
@jml8975 5 жыл бұрын
@Toy Man Television And B'mann is planning on releasing another updated 4-6-0. This newest version has the Plug n Play socket that will fit the Revolution r/c.
@JAMESMANHUNT9
@JAMESMANHUNT9 5 жыл бұрын
That's a first gen big hauler I have 90047 wonderland flyer and the night before Christmas locos both are 5th gen wonderland flyer was priced at 400 dollars at frontgate. Bachmann sells loco tender sets at 400 for a 5th gen I also run a one of one bachmann g scale challenger
@TheFrogfeeder
@TheFrogfeeder 3 жыл бұрын
I now have a bachmann big hauler set and a new bright rail king set. I gotta say, I like the new bright better. Both are electric with metal track. People want some crazy prices for them these days, I was patient and got em cheap, $30 for the new bright and $50 for the bachmann, paying for the name of course... also got the new bright holiday express train set #387 for $35. All in the last month, after Christmas...before Christmas I couldn’t find a big train set for under $150...
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
I love some of the toy trains. The Bachmann big hauler is something quite unique though. What is intended to be a toy when they build it but it’s really a nice scale model too.
@TheFrogfeeder
@TheFrogfeeder 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision I agree, the big hauler is just ever so slightly more “model” quality, but the new bright is just as good imo, but it runs a lot better, at least in my comparison and items. I usually put them both together and run em as one long train, they actually both work off a Bachman transformer :)
@davidwayneprins
@davidwayneprins 5 жыл бұрын
I had one of these engines. Wound up being a "Guinea Pig" engine at the local G scale club any time track was added to the outdoor layout.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Dead rail has advantages
@JimRohrbach-kw2fe
@JimRohrbach-kw2fe 12 күн бұрын
I got about 3 sets, some missing parts and one just the engine, tender and caboose. I whittled it down to two sets, one complete with the "Bach-Man" comic and all the accessories (plastic track too) and sold that one on eBay. I kept one set of rolling stock plus the engine and tender complete with the remote (sound works too). I have a question though, I'd like to repaint the locomotive and tender to something more appropriate, black with white accents, but can't find any "how to articles" on how to dis-assemble the locomotive. Anyone out there have any ideas? thanks!
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull 5 жыл бұрын
By the time Bachmann got the gears to not split in many of the Spectrum range, they became almost as expensive as LGB. How any company can get away with distributing new items already broken in the box is beyond me. The Anniversary 4-6-0 and Spectrum range have very nice detail though.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Shipped broken. I’m not sure if Bachmann was aware but the manufacturer in China surely knew. And now the Chinese manufacturer owns the company.
@GrumpSkull
@GrumpSkull 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision Now 'North West Short Line' who supplied replacement delrin gears have recently closed. The boom time of large scale trains is over with the main players either gone bankrupt or no longer making large scale stuff. Live steam is alive though with the more expensive Accucraft range etc. but priced out of reach for most. Chinese production flooded the market with inferior products which were over produced then sold off to discount dealers and killed LGB. Aristocraft had similar issues with wheels falling off etc. then they went belly up too. Current Marklin/LGB products are an expensive joke. Piko have taken up the gap but in the odd scale of 1/24 which is inaccurate for the prototypes they make. My spare room is like a supermarket of items I have collected over the years. Although I have way too many trains, I don't regret buying any of them.
@bluebear6570
@bluebear6570 5 жыл бұрын
Just a slight correction - Bachmann is not a US manufacturer, but a Chinese! Bachmann also produces top quality model railroad products for the UK and European markets. LGB did not go bankrupt due to Bachmann, but due to a gerneral slump in the European market. Sorry, Bachmann did not change the world, LGB did!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Bachmann was American before the Chinese took over. Well back in the 60’s and 50’s. The big impact was the crash of economy in 08. Was in trouble before that but the crash killed all hobbies. But Bachmann had taken over before that. And the Chinese takeover didn’t help. LGB probably would have been fine as the 3rd place g scale company but 08 killed everyone except accucraft and Bachmann
@woohoofromtexasharris4814
@woohoofromtexasharris4814 5 жыл бұрын
98 WOOHOO FROM TEXAS.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Toot! Hi from Utah!
@eschnitger
@eschnitger 5 жыл бұрын
I run Bachmann locomotives on LGB track...
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
LGB always did make the best track. It’s indestructible
@briankistner4331
@briankistner4331 5 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 70's old Bachmann N-Scale was I thought OK. Cheap and it ran OK. More so if one knew how to fine tune the engines and cars which I did. Engines were around $10. Steam engines were $12-15. Most rolling stock was under $3. For maybe $3-5 at the time, one could improve the rolling stock with Kadee couplers and wheelsets.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Yup. I had n scale at the time. Kadie couplers. Atlas. But Bachmann always affordable. Always reasonable
@davidkoehler136
@davidkoehler136 2 жыл бұрын
yup paid 49.95 for the one i bought for my son for christmas , went back and bought 4 more ,think it was 1989
@trainzillamodelrailroading9905
@trainzillamodelrailroading9905 5 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to start G scale (Currently member of an HO scale club) but I was wondering how you guys manage so many cool hobbies! What mindset do you have to put equal effort into all these different scales without dropping another from your interests for a duration of time?
@johnclayden1670
@johnclayden1670 5 жыл бұрын
What is 'G' gauge? 28 mm? Scale of 7 mm to the foot?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
I’m hopeless that way. Karyn is more focused. But most of my models are not built, many of the trains never run. Sigh... but I did have an n scale for about 3 years. A huge HO for about 10. A garden railroad for about 6 years. Ran it often. But haven’t had a working layout for 20 years now. So I guess part of my “success” is getting old. And keeping somehow many of my toys. In boxes stashed away.
@milepost3926
@milepost3926 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Dale back again quick question what did you use to make your beartrap spark arrester and your snowplow what material if I may ask thank you
@TechBuild
@TechBuild 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make a video on Kato? Try giving the Kato hobby center in Tokyo a visit. I don't know about HO but they are among the best manufacturers in N scale.
@justintai8725
@justintai8725 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are so cute
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
She is. I’m the weird one. Which is great. I like weird
@PlaneBoy2520
@PlaneBoy2520 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Have you thought about building a garden railroad made to haul weeds to make it easier when weeding out the flower bed?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Hum.... so... if I want great photos of it I need a weeding photographer....
@PlaneBoy2520
@PlaneBoy2520 5 жыл бұрын
Toy Man Television haha you’re so punny 😂
@fanatichighdesertrailroader
@fanatichighdesertrailroader 5 жыл бұрын
You could have said" Budget" train set. What's next Lionel 's loco? Always wondered why LGB didn't research our 2 ft. narrow gauge for more models.They could have added a lot more.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
I have one Fn2 loco. I think that’s 5/8” scale? Anyway really fun. Mine is a beer train! A Guinness loco. They had, and I guess still have, a 3 foot line in and around the huge brewery.
@michaellindsay6735
@michaellindsay6735 5 жыл бұрын
I got that Ho scale model trains set u just show
@warlordsquerk5338
@warlordsquerk5338 5 жыл бұрын
3:35 I've been trying to get my hands on one of those but the only one I managed to order in was damaged so I didn't take it
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
I wish they would do a first class version as the original tweetsy
@warlordsquerk5338
@warlordsquerk5338 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision Would be nice :)
@michaellindsay6735
@michaellindsay6735 5 жыл бұрын
What Kmart are u talking about they all closed u found that at Kmart sweet
@lordsjaak
@lordsjaak 5 жыл бұрын
you both not boring, maybe your next tuesday your wife and her collection of toys as videos?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
We have done several of her Kiddles and toy rings.
@lordsjaak
@lordsjaak 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision i know but i do like little balance of both your intressting ;) and yes i did watch those videos :D
@hamiltonsullivan6563
@hamiltonsullivan6563 5 жыл бұрын
How's your morning
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Really sore. Damn leg. Nerve problems. Crap. Other than that, great!!!!!
@bryanwhat2268
@bryanwhat2268 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought this on ebay wish I paid 25 for it
@Huckleberry_2392
@Huckleberry_2392 5 жыл бұрын
Yep Tweetsie 12 is a Blue Ridge NC Girl alright!
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
We really wanna see that railroad.
@Huckleberry_2392
@Huckleberry_2392 5 жыл бұрын
If y’all gets chance y’all should go there! It’s a Wild West theme park located in the Mountains in Blowing Rock, NC “Tweetsie 12” & “Yukon Queen” 190 are both narrow gauge Locomotives built for mountain terrain, 12 originally came from the ET&WNCRR which ran from Johnson City, TN to Boone NC. 12 is sadly the last one of her 13 sisters numbers 1-14, 13 was said to be a “Ghost Train” of another railroad in the area, 12 will be 102 yrs old this year, while s118 class 190 or the Alaskan Vet will be 76, so there’s y’all some lil information! Visit Tweetsie.com for more info on NC’s oldest theme park and Locomotives!
@joebear1194
@joebear1194 5 жыл бұрын
That's my question- why is g scale so expensive? It's not amazingly detailed, or runs amazingly. So what's the deal?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Mostly just so big. Makes everything harder to make. Heavy plastic and lots of metal parts.
@your89romeo
@your89romeo 5 жыл бұрын
Hello i have one of these big haulers that i am selling,looks like is in very good condition with no broken parts or anything. I know nothing about trains and i have a potential buyer that's asking me if it works how could i test it without putting all the tracks and carts together?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Hum... if it’s a set- if it has the power “pack” (supply) it should be easy to set up on a bit of track. I think all of the sets came with 2 pieces of straight track. Hook those together and hook power to the track. And plug the two wires that go from the tender to the locomotive in and it should work. Now if it’s just the locomotive it’s a bit more of a problem. Still need to plug in the tender to the locomotive with the two (some have one) wires that plug into the tender from the locomotive. Now you need to get power to the wheels. A 6 or 12 volt batterie will do the trick but you need 2 jumper wires to touch to the wheels. One to a left wheel one to a right and it should go. Depending on how the locomotive is wired you may need to touch one side on a locomotive wheel and the other on a tender. But I think all of them work with the test leads on either or the other. In fact the locomotive should work without the tender connected but I think many if not all have sound systems in the tender
@your89romeo
@your89romeo 5 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision thanks for your answer it is the set llike one you showed on your video. The locomotive has a button and i switched it to ON and it started moving so that tells me that it works.
@r.c.r.rproductions8462
@r.c.r.rproductions8462 5 жыл бұрын
yo toyman do a reveiw on the bachmann spectrum 1;20.3 scale outside frame 2-8-0, please.
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
That’s an odd one. In that it’s great but was not popular for some reason. Mine is Silverton Northern. Got it new for 190 right after the queen Mary show years ago. Bachmann brought hundreds thinking it would be a hit. Nope. So they were dumping what they could for 190. Several dealers bought up most of then but a I was able to get one.
@jacobramsey7624
@jacobramsey7624 5 жыл бұрын
Can you run any trains on your layout yet?
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 5 жыл бұрын
Sadly no. Well I can if I hook up power. But I figure I’m inviting myself to screw around with it and get nothing else done. So until all the track is down I don’t want to run it.
@clayboi6939
@clayboi6939 3 жыл бұрын
Man! Big box stores never have any amazing toys like these anymore!! I got several HO tyco train sets from toys-r-us as a kid and loved them!! Total over priced junk on the shelves now days
@ToyManTelevision
@ToyManTelevision 3 жыл бұрын
Tyco. (Tyler’s company). Some junk. Some amazing stuff! But always a good price.
@clayboi6939
@clayboi6939 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToyManTelevision yes! Even tyco's cheaper stuff is better than anything that is sold as a "train set" in today's big box store. Gimmicks at best
@heyjay25
@heyjay25 5 жыл бұрын
Poor trains collecting dust
@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674
@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674 2 жыл бұрын
My son and I were at a coin shop pawn shop and he was about 3 he hollered out WHo WHo' WHo Who's I'm like OK let's go look at go look at Who whos and here was aG gauge train in the display case it turned out to be the general $25 special I thought it was a battery operated one turns out it was track power Now I need track
@willyoeikeland3116
@willyoeikeland3116 2 жыл бұрын
Brass track is expensive. Good luck in finding cheap ones.
@r.c.r.rproductions8462
@r.c.r.rproductions8462 5 жыл бұрын
who else agrees that the ten wheeler tenders are ugly as heck?
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