The Traditional Alternative | VPC HOTAS in Star Citizen 4K

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(Sponsored) This video gives some thoughts on Hands on Throttle and Stick (HOTAS) in Star Citizen, showcasing some Virpil hardware to make the case for the traditional alternative. The video is set against some footage from Star Citizen 3.22, including some shots of Virpil hardware in action. The video includes the VPC WarBRD base, VPC Constellation Alpha grip, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 throttle, and Control Panel #2.
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00:00 Introduction
01:12 Transparency
01:48 Traditional Alternative
04:33 Summary
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@SCTimbal 2 ай бұрын

Congratulations on the setup! They’re truly a transformative change, 100% adding that immersion.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Thank you, I'm loving it so far!

@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 2 ай бұрын

Yes, do a PROPER FARRISTER REVIEW though. Maybe even a short series, reviewing the pros and cons of the various control methods of playing the game, done in Farrister's style and delivery

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Noted!

@photogasm5 2 ай бұрын

I run Dual Sticks and Throttle, all Virpil. I also have a Control Panel and two 10 inch monitors for MFDs, all on a sit/standing desk. I absolutely love my setup.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Oh that's awesome! When I used to fly DCS every week I had 2 mini screens attached with Cougar MFDs on them, was so helpful for workflow!

@photogasm5 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister I'm really hoping one day they'll allow us to export our in game mfd screens to external devices.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

@@photogasm5 oh gosh yes please

@TracynVomea 2 ай бұрын

I switched from keyboard to Dual Sticks + Throttle a few weeks ago, and I'm curious. How do you use yours ? I use the right stick for pitch/yaw/roll and weapons, the left for strafing and decoupling/boost/chaff, and the throttle is mostly used for cruising, right now. But it doesn't feel that comfortable.

@photogasm5 2 ай бұрын

@@TracynVomea I use my right stick same as yours, left sick I use as throttle oddly enough. The actual throttle I use as a speed limiter, extra buttons, and mining laser power. Works and feels great.

@eric90000 2 ай бұрын

Awesome setup. I would love to see a full in-depth review of the various bits!

@shadeofsound23 2 ай бұрын

Footpedals on your HOTAS setup give you that 6dof flexability. I use it in Elite Dangerous to dodge asteroids in my Mamba. It's just geting over that hump of mapping controls - just like Elite lol

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I do still have my rudder pedals

@ericcrichardson 2 ай бұрын

had my dual constellation Alphas for a year, LOVE them

@dar_veider2702 2 ай бұрын

Me too, plus pedals and gas throttle. Absolutely love it. Premium stuff. I enjoy Star Citizen and other games at another level ❤.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Enjoying mine too!

@twelvewingproductions7508 2 ай бұрын

Using the same set up. I love the split throttle... setting the speed limiter on the left throttle and thrust on the right. I set the reverse as the throttle thumb button on the throttle ... and boom... never looked back. You nailed it when you said this is perfect for larger ships. I may try the dual stick for racing but I think even then I'm so used to the muscle memory of the HOTAS that I'll probably be sticking with this.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

That muscle memory will get you every time :D

@glutrino 2 ай бұрын

First of all, I like to thank you Farrister for all you videos over the years! 🙏🏾 Ok, for me Star Citizen is my first sim ever, so I started with TM16000 HOTAS, but when the stick stop functioning correctly I upgraded to VPC HOSAS + peddles. I have dual z-axis extensions on joysticks and this works for me now like a dream. The only thing I missed the extra buttons and switches on my throttle… so I just order VPC control panel. Will see how that goes, but I am very happy with my HOSAS even though I am not really a combat player. Most cargo, mining, salvage and hopefully soon repair with my Crucible.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Star Citizen was such a gateway for me too lol, from an X55 HOTAS to the Warthog and now this. Also don't tempt me with that Crucible :P hope you enjoy the VPC Panel - I think it's fantastic!

@arcticgraywolf6000 2 ай бұрын

I enjoyed this video and also use a throttle and stick setup for my H.O.T.A.S. setup. It works well for my play style. Love the setup you were using in this video.

@bloodybob3750 2 ай бұрын

thank you for doing this. i run the same set- up and have been frustrated with it cause there are no up to date vides on how to program virpil gear.look forward to seeing more.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Have you checked out Noobifier?

@chrismoeller4517 2 ай бұрын

I also use this HOTAS set rather a HOSAS - I also fly sims like DCS after all. I did disable the twist and use the mini-stick for strafe up/down/left/right, and the throttle uses the cosmo-sim detents so it does forward and reverse thrust. I probably ought to use lighter springs in the grip base. One note about the mini-sticks on the stick and throttle: they are not hall sensor and subject to wearing out not unlike a PlayStation controller.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

It translates well to DCS too I think. I use my trim hat for strafe up down left right, since it's kinda natural muscle memory from other sims anyway. And then the pinky paddle axis for thrusting back... I'm gonna do a more comprehensive video about my control setup I think

@cyborghunter5933 2 ай бұрын

I have VPC dual Constellation Alpha sticks and the VPC ACE Flight pedals. I also want to add at least one VPC control panel eventually. All fantastic hardware although not living in the USA but paying with US dollars means currency conversion which adds quite a bit more to the final cost. Still, top notch hardware.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

The control panel is a really fantastic addition too.

@WhiskeyWargaming 2 ай бұрын

I have the vkb stecs standard and gunfighter. It is a great setup that works well with Star Citizen and a must with some flightsims and WWII flight games.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Oooh what flight sims?

@WhiskeyWargaming 2 ай бұрын

@Farrister I am dabbling in MSFS 2020 and IL2. But most of my free time, i am just free flying in SC.

@defiantraven7915 2 ай бұрын

My setup for Star Citizen is Stick and Throttle plus control panels #1 and #2 and pedals. All Virpil

@leesakowski790 2 ай бұрын

I just recently finished setting up (physically) my Virpil stick, throttle and control panel. I have been taking my time setting it up while I wait for Master Modes to take over SC. Been mostly learning the different options I have for the controls, like using the flip switch to switch to, then fire, missiles.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

So much customisability, especially with the software too. I'm gonna have to re-do a lot for 3.23, I think

@simonkane42 2 ай бұрын

I play on a laptop and use mouse and keyboard - sometimes with the mouse precariously balanced on the arm of the sofa which is far from ideal, so I try and avoid dogfighting as much as possible! I'm mainly in a Taurus or Vulture and do OK. I'm planning on a VKB Stick and Omni throttle when I sort out a dedicated gaming PC for my office.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Thankfully my laptop days are behind me!

@ozhomerozmechwarrior4681 2 ай бұрын

I have the same stick and throttle and Control Panel 2, they are awesome. Theirs a mini-stick on the throttle that lets you essentially dual stick when used in combination with the main joystick. I use the mini-stick for vertical and horizontal strafe. I map the throttle to the speed limiter and use the thumb and palm buttons for forward and back strafe. When used in combination with cruise control this allows me to switch the throttle from a speed limiter when cruise control is off for combat, to a throttle when cruise control is on for when less precision is needed.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Really interesting - I'm still using the stick for strafe buttons, only because it feels more natural for me to use "trim" to do that. Your setup sounds intriguing though

@redace3928 2 ай бұрын

I fly with hosas, head traker IR, and a 3df motion rig. The amount of emersion i got from just the sticks made me hungry for more so I upgraded to what have now.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Goodness!

@viktorgavorn4635 2 ай бұрын

As someone with the same setup, who also tends to fly larger ships, I ADORE my virpil hotas setup. Worth the investment.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

It's a great way to fly!

@lordseppenstein2559 2 ай бұрын

ok i really like that you found your way of conveniance and for the most part i like it the same way. But i think i went a little further with my HoTaOaS configuration. So from left to right i have a throttle a omnithrottle and a stick. and i love it because the few times i reach to my far left for the normal throttle are no Problem at all because i only use it in Situations where i have enough time. But the Omnithrottle is a real Gamechanger for me.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I was sorely tempted by the Omni Throttle...

@lordseppenstein2559 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister i was unsure about it till i tried it. If you are using a base with a dry clutsh it can be used like a throttle but that is the only thing i didn't try because i still like the heavy feel of a real throttle so i use both. But that is a lot of money and i totally get that not everybody wants to spend that much.

@Max_Flashheart 2 ай бұрын

Have always used a hotas with strafe on thumb sticks and it works well and you are right about muscle memory and switching between Flight Sims and SC. I still want Virpils but out of my budget range for now. SC is a pain to get the a HOTAS working exactly how I would like (that reverse throttle button for example and reversing for example_

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I know what you mean - I like that this grip has an axis on the pinky, which gives nice fine control over reverse thrust!

@MrGstvsn 2 ай бұрын

I have a Virpil HOTAS and love it. I pair it with a set of vkb pedals and I am good to go in Star Citizen and other games such as DCS.

@TUROCK320 2 ай бұрын

"other game such as DCS" SC = before take off = took elevator DCS : Just read the manual : assets.chucksguides.com/pdf/DCS%20F-16C%20Viper%20Guide.pdf Do not think having a HOTAS will give you the only strengh for read 800 pages from the manual of your only one aircraft.popcorn-yellow-striped-smile. Friendship , an old DCS player.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I do love the HOTAS!

@TUROCK320 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister you are a dictator ahah. sorry for my taunt. You can delete again my message ^^

@mariomarques1507 2 ай бұрын

I use HOTAS too. Although, sometimes I miss my mouse-joystick configuration.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I have my mouse to hand, but tend not to use it whilst flying

@JClif 2 ай бұрын

I currently use the Logitech Saitek X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S. However, I am looking to upgrade to a similar Virpil set up as you. I am really looking forward to more videos like this so I can learn how you have your controllers set up. I appreciate you sharing.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

More to follow :)

@Diogenes76 Ай бұрын

This is my exact setup. I used to have two VKBs in HOSAS setup, but I also prefer larger and industrial type ships where the throttle feels better and the throttle's mini joystick gives me plenty of strafe control.

@ro-mon_gerrs_u-tube1944 2 ай бұрын

Duel Sticks VKB's NTX Omni's. Gives me a motorcycle type feel to my flight which I find more comfortable.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

What do you tend to do with them in game?

@texnorthman 2 ай бұрын

*was designed as a PC game. It would appear CIG are making quite a lot of changes to ensure that an xbox controller will be the input device of choice, which can only mean one thing.... That said, totally agree with your comments on HOTAS vs HOSAS :) I have both a stick and a throttle on the left, and use the stick for lighter ships and the throttle for heavier ones 👍

@Dreadika97 2 ай бұрын

I use 2 sticks, a throttle, peddles, and a bottom cluster. For flexibility.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Sounds incredible!

@KelrCrow 2 ай бұрын

I've got dual sticks, one Thrustmaster and one Gladiator. The Gladiator has the tilted stick option so it looks more like a throttle, which is what I use it for, a throttle that can strafe and do up/down. I tried two normal sticks (two Thrustmasters) but my head couldn't wrap itself around using two sticks that were the same. The Gladiator was kind of expensive, but it's the only manufacturer that I could find that did the sort of 90 degree turn on a stick.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

How do you find the omni throttle? I had been seriously considering it!

@TimothySnowman 2 ай бұрын

I prefer HOTAS over HOSAS, myself, as well. I run a VKB setup with a Gladiator and a THQ throttle quadrant on the right, and the STECS mini-plus throttle on the left. I use the THQ throttle quadrant as a makeshift collective for when I want to fly my ships in hover-mode. I have one throttle mapped to thrust limiter and the other mapped to strafe up, so I just decouple, lower the thrust limiter, and use the strafe up throttle as a collective like you would a helicopter.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I like the idea of the makeshift collective

@TimothySnowman 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister I think I may make a video about it for the few citizens like me that miss hover mode, lol.

@Ryecrash617 2 ай бұрын

That set-up looks great. I hope to upgrade from my T16000M Hotas to a Virpil set-up at some point but the additional cost is difficult to justify.

@Kastell8 2 ай бұрын

I switched to the t16k hosas setup very quickly after starting SC and, luckily, haven't had any problems. Just waiting for VKBs to get back in stock... Otherwise I'll go virpil right stick and maybe velocityone left. Be great to see more peripherals reviews here! Pedals, gameglass, and tobii all important to know about

@Jezato 2 ай бұрын

Another great video, I really like the relaxed nature of this content. I use a a HOSAM setup but am always looking for something different to try. I've been eyeing off the 3D Connexion SpaceMouse Enterprise, it's made for CAD and 3D dev applications but after some digging in forums it sounds like it could be quite good in Star Citizen. Another plus is it's alot smaller than a joystick or throttle setup which would be nice for people with less deskspace available. I'd love to see you review the SpaceMouse and let us know your thoughts.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Intriguing! Have you seen Noobifiers channel? Great for hardware reviews, although I don't remember if they covered the SpaceMouse

@Jezato 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister I have and i've now messaged him too, he said he'd "take a look". Fingers crossed he likes it enough to do a review. :)

@aipilot6795 2 ай бұрын

I would like to fly HOSAS and Throttle. Been eyeing that Virpil throttle for a while.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Should have known you just have all the things :D

@The_Real_bubbazaneti 2 ай бұрын

Great vid Farrister! and here I thought I was all alone using my Thrustmaster HOTAS one in SC 😀 and have been thinking of going for two sticks instead at some point. Would Love to have the Virpil setup, as the Thrustmaster does not have all those buttons one can programme, but again, there is also a very Big price difference between those two brands, and of course the ultimate quality that Virpil hardware is, there should of course be the price difference. But I am really looking forward to your vids on setup and bindings, as I can perhaps use some of those binding in my setup as well, to avoid using the keyboard so much. As U I am an alrounder, salvage, a bit of combat...all though i totally suck as a pilot when it comes to combat, bunkers and some mining and cargo! Cheers!

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, stay tuned! I also moved from Thrustmaster HOTAS to this, and it's a noticeable step up!

@The_Real_bubbazaneti 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister I can just imagine!! Been in a while ago. on the Virpil webside and have checked the components, and they look amazing, so totally looking forward for You to go in depth on your Virpil HOTAS setup 👍🏻

@aesericho3651 2 ай бұрын

I use HOTASAS. Hands on throttle and stick and stick. Using joystick gremlin, I can switch the use of my hand using the stick or throttle depending on what I'm currently doing. Soon, I'll have pedals for use with the throttle for even more control

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Very fancy!

@1927deano 2 ай бұрын

I don’t have much money to spend on setups but i did end up getting a T.Flight hotas X, does me well for pulling off ridiculous manoeuvres and adds a nice level of immersion. I wouldn’t have the level of coordination to run dual sticks

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Nice to have some physical hardware!

@1927deano 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister indeed, it maybe rather cheap and feel a little delicate, but it gets the job done.

@StarFireG3 2 ай бұрын

Thrustmaster T16000 and TWCS. Virpil is just out of my league, but of course I would like to have an all Virpil setup.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

It's pretty awesome!

@etogreen 2 ай бұрын

I've tried a number of different sticks, including CH products, and VKB Gunfigher Mk iii's. And Virpils are by far are the best sticks I've ever used. I'm a HOSAS pilot so don't have any knowledge of the VPC throttle. But if it's anywhere near as good as the sticks, it's worth the money.

@fiocoh 2 ай бұрын

I use a VKB omithrottle on the left, regular VKB stick on the right, and thrustmaster pedals. it just feels more natural to me to have two sticks for space, but i gotta admit the physical throttle position feels better to hold than a stick...

@martinrasmussen3831 2 ай бұрын

my dream setup, im useing the Thrustmaster ts 16000 at the moment, but looking to upgrade to virpil

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

It has truly been wonderful to use

@Duvoncho 2 ай бұрын

I really should dust off the old Virpils and get back into SC when 3.23 finally arrives. I love the combination of the CM3 with x2 Constellation Alpha and a side-way adapter for the left stick.

@lemolo 2 ай бұрын

Yes, gear reviews please.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Excited about the prospect :)

@darrengreen3228 2 ай бұрын

I like the sick and throttle. For me, it makes the game feel a lot better.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

For me too

@davewills6121 2 ай бұрын

I have and am using the ''Virpil CM2 Throttle/VPC SharKa-50 Control Panel/VPC Warbird-d/F14-Stick/TM -arthog Base/F-18C/16C Sticks/TM-TMP Peddles/Honeycomb-Yoke/Throttle/Tobi'' for DCS/MSFS/XP12/Hunternet Starfighter''played on LG OLED 55/42 inch. For Star Citizen i just use KB+M. Virpil are the best imo, although Winwing are popular. All rugged and dependable, and with Virpil UK, non of that import nonsense.

@SuperRedman76 2 ай бұрын

I use to use HotasX and then got the X52 pro. I'm waiting to get Virpil.

@mikajuni1047 2 ай бұрын

i would really like a up coming review

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

OK!

@CB-io8oi 2 ай бұрын

I'm still ol KB+M but would love to see more information on this.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

@Stakar0gord 2 ай бұрын

I am rocking a full Virpil HOTASAS setup - just wish SC settings were more capable

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

So fancy! The Virpil software helps bridge the gap, I think

@Stakar0gord 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister Sadly not. To run multiple devices that need to share axis or assignments, you have to run with a Joystick Gremlin setup. Not a Virpil problem, its a SC problem.

@chirvo 2 ай бұрын

Before moving, I was using two VKB Glagiator NXT with the Omni throttle extension on the left. Now they're in a storage unit until further notice, 😢

@Blackcat70_ 2 ай бұрын

Hope you can rescue them from storage jail asap! Sorry to hear about your loss... :( Run 2 vkb glads and a t-rudder... love the setup!

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Get them out of storage!!

@snaggletoof1927 2 ай бұрын

I really should pull the trigger on a HOTAS/HOSAS set up. I've been putting it off for far too long.

@noideas439 2 ай бұрын

I have recently reached the crossroads between two sticks, HOTAS, and HOSAM and seeing as I have a stick already, I am considering HOSAM, it would be fantastic if you could do a review on stick and mouse!

@geesharp6637 2 ай бұрын

I have HOTAS as well. I do have an left hand T16000 stick if I want to try HOSAS. I always wondered if maybe we should switch between HOSAS and HOTAS depending on what the ship actually has. You know, 'immersion'.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I was surprised at how many ships have HOTAS as their loadout!

@PeterVest 2 ай бұрын

Well I have the best of both worlds, I'm lucky enough to have a complete Virpil setup with both dual sticks and a throttle, and depending on which ship I fly, I switch between them, but I mostly fly with dual sticks, maybe because I'm a racer in SC :) And congrats with your new controllers they are truly amazing, and BTW which cam's are you using the the base? I favour CosmoSim with no center :)

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Very fancy!!

@westleighcrain4613 2 ай бұрын

I run a thrustmaster warthog with peddels for roll. I may switch the stick for the winwing a10 stick so i can have a twist axis and ditch thee peddles. My preference is pitch and roll on the stick axis and yaw on twist but i gave it up when i got my warthog.

@FreeFragUK Ай бұрын

I'm coming back to SC after a long break and one thing I'm dreading is setting up my controls again from fresh but with the addition of Master Modes (not heard good things about MM) it seems like starting anew may not be so bad. I am a HOTAS pilot and while ive considered a second stick in the past, I've actually come far closer to picking up a collective instead. The only reason I haven't is because my chair won't support Virpil's mounting system and it is not a cheap chair. I'd be curious to see a tour of your full flight set up.

@j.d.4697 2 ай бұрын

I don't know how it will be with master modes, but with the current flight system I felt like HOTAS have a place in big, sluggish ships.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Totally!

@soneryazici6527 2 ай бұрын

vkb hosas, left with the angled pat, have flown hotas, and i like both, but the hosas is just a bit more comfortable to do dogfights or low flying with imo, i feel its also more immersive than keyboard and mouse

@raidellcorps 2 ай бұрын

Dear santa claus....

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Kinda felt like Christmas morning when the boxes arrived!

@ZaphodTube 2 ай бұрын

I am a space trucker from Elite, starting with star citizen and looking for a setup. I was really looking to keep playing with a Hotas, noce to hear it‘s possible :) These dual joystick people made me insecure 😂 But I love the feel of resting my hand on the throttle…

@porkorosso7885 2 ай бұрын

I have dual Virpil sticks but am considering the throttle attachment.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

The Z-extension? That looks really cool!

@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 2 ай бұрын

I fly Mouse and Keyboard, because though I do have a Thrust Master T160000M FCS HOTAS, I am both lazy and lacking the confidence to set it up and do the key bindings for it.

@spookytooth2044 2 ай бұрын

Same here! To be honest, even when it was set up I found the keyboard/mouse setup to be more precise. I avoid combat so I’m just an everyday pilot and keyboard/mouse works fine

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Whatever works for you!

@grayssoncarl5020 2 ай бұрын

No money was payed...except hardware for over 700€. That said i have a VPC HOSAS setup. The gimbals on these sticks are amazing. Considering the moving part shouldnt wear out like on other sticks with plastic "gimbals" (even expensive ones like the Warthog...that doesnt even have a gimbal at all) you get what you pay for. But usually i use mouse and keyboard since i cant leave the setup at my desk because my cats would "eat" the cables.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

No money, but some very fancy premium hardware! I think it's important to be as honest as possible about such things. I don't have cat problems, but I do have a big MonsterTech frame which I use to move everything in and out quickly, with a single USB connection to a hub to plug in. It means I can go from a working desk to a flight desk in about 30 seconds

@grayssoncarl5020 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister I use two seperate Monstertech mounts.

@promugg 2 ай бұрын

I am still slumming it with kb and mouse. They look really nice though.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Whatever works for you!

@elixxx 2 ай бұрын

I came from Hotas and went hosas, i sometimes miss a propper throttle, it feels better for industial work.

@iFryTube 2 ай бұрын

HOTAS over HOSAS for me. It has a lot more versatility in other games too, even Farming Simulator. Their stick and throttle really are the best in industry and with Star Citizen being a game where you need all the buttons, knobs, and switches you can get - their HOTAS really cant be beat. Also, Virpil organically pushes its products unlike VKB that goes to dirty tactics of filling comment sections, subreddits, etc with shill information. And last but not least, Virpil is made in Europe! Not China! That in itself should be a big W

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I do love the HOTAS setup. I also think Stephen Fry is a wonderful human being, so kudos there!

@grimhizzer 2 ай бұрын

How is the control panel? Is the build quality as good as the throttle? Loved the video.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, it's fantastic. I might do another video solely on it in future, but it really adds a lot to the experience

@AnymMusic 2 ай бұрын

all we need now, is a company to recreate the Xi'an control interfaces. Yknow, for maximum immersion

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I can just imagine lol

@nydaarius6845 2 ай бұрын

used dual sticks. but because master modes killed racing, i'm not running any set up at all anymore. they are already in the basement and i get them back, once they fix the flight model in 2 or 10 years.

@harlanwalbaum1782 2 ай бұрын

Ive just got myself a set on order and been trying to find others who actually use a hotas over hosas. It seems more intuitive over sticks. Not bagging on thos who use dual stick. I just want to give more then just space a tippy toe around. Im really curious on how you have yours set up and when will come from my setup when i get it in the mail.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Will share more details in future - might need to rebind for 3.23!

@kaihall2243 2 ай бұрын

Mouse and keyboard since im too broke to get sticks lol

@thjof7024 2 ай бұрын

Same, but not because I'm broke, but I doubt the usefulness of anything else considering the price and the effort to get used to it. And Star Citizen is just one of the games I I play.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

@CobaltC3D 2 ай бұрын

I think people sleep on the HoSaM setup. Best part is it's basically half of the price!

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I think control scheme is a very personal choice, whatever works for you!

@trydierepeat8208 Ай бұрын

would be interested in learning about the dual stick controls.. really never come across concept before this game and although i just got a x56, the concept interreges me. Also nhs workers remember your blue light card for 25% discounts on logitech stuff.

@BizzMRK 2 ай бұрын

I am curious, how difficult is it to adjust to a HOTAS/HOSAS setup when you never used one before? While mouse and keyboard with gameglass on the ipad pro as a MFD is mostly fine for my industrial focus and pve combat, I am certainly interested in such a setup once the game reaches 4.0 and (hopefully) becomes a lot more stable and a throttle or stick with granular control could even double as a mining laser throttle, but it's still a big investment if you want something decent. Dualstick with one omni-throttle adapter may be a good middleground between both types of setups if one can't really decide between one or the other.

@SleepyFl0wer 2 ай бұрын

I’ve come to like the VKB stick and Omni throttle. With the ability to pull the center spring out you can truly have the feeling of a hotas throttle without losing any of the finite movement of the hosas. It’s really cool. It’s just like having both at the same time.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

The omni throttle was tempting...

@SleepyFl0wer 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister definitely try it out if you get the chance. Something I’ve grown to love with this game.

@TheSubdude123 2 ай бұрын

I just got the omni throttle with the gladiator. Still working on my bindings. This is the first time I heard of removing the middle spring... Does that allow the x axis or FWD/REV strafing (for me) to stop anywhere on the axis?

@epicgamer42069 2 ай бұрын

imop dual stick is better even for heavy ships. use decoupled mode, Its way better. Decoupled mode may be challenging at first if your not the best pilot but after some practice its so much nicer than coupled mode and you have way more control over your ship and you will move much more fluidly.

@sarelschutte953 2 ай бұрын

I like how the controls look,but i wouldn't know since "Star Citizen" isn't in "South Africa" yet and i don't have a computer yet whey are really expensive. I only make R2000 monthly. 😅

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

I would have thought Star Citizen was very much in South Africa!

@sarelschutte953 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister i don't know im not that much of a gamer but i like watching your videos and Star Citizen doesn't have RSA (South Africa currency) yet and i don't know if Star Citizen is in South Africa 🤔 im not really sure and I'm not that big of a gamer that much

@PragmaticTornado Ай бұрын

VPC Alpha + VPC CM3 Throttle here. I see no reason to ever run HOSAS when I have an analog stick on my joystick for strafe usage, and when I don't give two shits about PvP. Throw in a 43" 4K monitor and the obligatory Tobii 5, and my SC experience is more than adequate.

@usmcabbott888 2 ай бұрын

I just use good ole mouse and keyboard. i tried using a hotas set up but since its such a new thing for me i just couldnt get a feel for flying like i could with mouse and keyboard.

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Fair enough!

@karlmesserTV 6 күн бұрын

Thanks Why don't you set a virtual button on the axe forward at 80-100% it could be great

@AndrewJens 2 ай бұрын

Is the aim with HOSAS or HOTAS to never touch the keyboard?

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

It's my aim! Everything needed within arms reach. But the moment I pop out of the pilots chair, it's back to M&K

@Blackcat70_ 2 ай бұрын

JUST MAKE MORE SC CONTENT Farrister!!! haahaha! 🙂 It's all good!

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

@Integer_Overload 2 ай бұрын

Farrister is married? Shit there went my long term plan😂. Jokes aside i played on mouse and keyboard for my first year, then got the VKB Omni throttle set up a couple months back and ive absolutely adored it. Yeah its a little cheap on the quality and definitely too small for my above average hands, but they're definitely great. If i had the extra disposable income i would definitely get Virpil instead, but im also happy with my VKB's

@Pyrilium1043 2 ай бұрын

I'm left handed so HOTAS doesn't really work for me since I have yet to see a reversed setup.

@throdwobblermangrove6200 2 ай бұрын

mouse & keyboard

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

Impressive!

@throdwobblermangrove6200 2 ай бұрын

@@Farrister Not so impressiv when you check my pilot skills

@RetinaBurner 2 ай бұрын

Ok, so a point to keep in mind, did Virpil tell you what you could and could not say? Are your thoughts your own or something they told you to paraphrase? If you're going to accept sponsorships, be sure to be clear to your audience as to whether your opinions are your own or have been directed by the company. Only reason I mention this is that others have had this bite them in the ass, and I'd rather not see that happen to you. Nicely done, overall, and glad to see you got some new toys to play with. :)

@Farrister 2 ай бұрын

A really good point, and the answer is no. They didn't need to see anything before publish, they didn't need to approve anything. They were confident in their products, and honestly I can see why. I didn't go too in depth in the video itself as it was more about the concept of HOTAS than a detailed review, although judging by some of the interest perhaps I should do that too!

@rwnlatham8 2 ай бұрын

Yes please, and that bindings video would interest me greatly, personally. @@Farrister