The Train within a Train & the Railway Built for Beer

The Train within a Train & the Railway Built for Beer - Guinness Brewery Railways

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25 күн бұрын

In today's video, we take a look at the Guinness Brewery and the interesting engines that ran on its railways.
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@hawkerhellfire9152 24 күн бұрын

Your Pronouncation is spot on. One note though, there are a total of 6 preserved NG steam engines. No15 ran in preservation for 2 years in Stradbally.

@FalkB2010 24 күн бұрын

The locomotive powered locomotives? Yeah they tend to do that

@The_Robbing_Narrator 24 күн бұрын

Dont know why though..

@zippy3377 24 күн бұрын

Can’t guess it

@tonytins 24 күн бұрын

We must go deeper.

@johnathonmcjohn3 24 күн бұрын

coal fired locomotive? how's locomotive gonna get a job now?

@Train_Tok_Man 24 күн бұрын

I’ve never been more intrigued.

@abyssminiaturestudios6103 24 күн бұрын

Lmfao in the words of Hyce and Brent Weibol with a heavy Irish accent, " it's an 0-4-0. With big shoes"

@Combes_ 24 күн бұрын

It's an oh-fir-oh!

@jerrysgardentractorsengine2243 24 күн бұрын

Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moments of all time

@jerrysgardentractorsengine2243 24 күн бұрын

Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moment of all time

@jerrysgardentractorsengine2243 24 күн бұрын

Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moment of all time

@jerrysgardentractorsengine2243 24 күн бұрын

Truly one of the three quarters of one idiot moments of all time

@tonytins 24 күн бұрын

Honey, I need to borrow your locomotive to power my locomotive.

@yeoldeseawitch 24 күн бұрын

Ah yes L O C O M O T I V E P O W E R E D L O C O M O T I V E

@crestfallensunbro6001 23 күн бұрын

hmm yes, the locomotive here is powered powered by locomotive

@jpsholland 21 күн бұрын

Vegeta, how many locomotives power that locomotive? - Let's see what the scanner says.... HUH!?!.... What is it Vegeta? - This can't be right,... it cant be!!!, the scanner must be broken! How much does the scanner say? - It is... it is... IT IS OVER 9000!!!

@napsbrickrailways2290 24 күн бұрын

There’s a famous quote that goes: “Oi mate, I need ta get pissed do ye mind makun me a railwae fir me pints”

@voltsiano116 23 күн бұрын

I never considered that a single business may grow so big as to require and entire multikilometer on-site railway just to function... That's so cool!

@SynchroScore 23 күн бұрын

We've still got a number of such businesses. Look at any large steel mill. Some of my great uncles worked at Northwestern Steel & Wire, which was a small mill as things went, but they were known for taking in steam locomotives sold for scrap, and the owner having them fixed up and used in the mill. They used steam until the owner died...in _1980._

@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory 23 күн бұрын

@@SynchroScore Because of the owners actions I am aware that atleast 3 of the locomotives are around, one in a park in Sterling, another in Amboy, and one at the Illinois Railway Museum

@geoff1201 22 күн бұрын

Ford at Dagenham had a substantial railway.

@SynchroScore 22 күн бұрын

@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory There is also one sitting in the woods in Galt, IL, just west of Sterling, one on display in Independence IA, one stored in Geneva NE, and one on display in St. Paul, MN. The one we have in Union is currently undergoing a cosmetic restoration.

@OscarOSullivan 17 күн бұрын

St Jame’s Gate was a massive site then and still is.

@sebforce1165 24 күн бұрын

I absolutely _love_ seeing narrow gauge tracks running in the middle of Standard or Broad gauge ones, it just feels so clever to me, and makes so much sense for space, but _yeesh,_ finding images online is oddly annoying to do. Never thought a Brewery would need little trains to move stuff around, but really should've figured :P

@SynchroScore 23 күн бұрын

There are a few installations of three-rail trackage here and there. I know there's a fair bit in Switzerland where the standard gauge and metre gauge overlap. But four-rail is much more rare.

@Damien.D 23 күн бұрын

There is a 4 rail setup (so couplers are aligned for narrow gauges engines to haul normal gauge wagons) at the CFBS heritage railway in France. It is used nowadays for regular (every 4 years) massive gathering of preserved rolling stocks, both narrow (1m) and standard gauge, allowing display and running of everything on the network.

@jameslawrie3807 24 күн бұрын

I really appreciate these industrial documentaries. Industrial engines and their infrastructure including towers, water systems etc are fascinating and don't receive enough attention

@lukechristmas3951 23 күн бұрын

Grain Belt Beer and trains in and out of Milwaukee, Wisconsin are what bring the haulage of beer by train close to home for me. Usually, one would think a private industry would have only one, two or three engines for its own. But I find it amazing that Guinness not only had a good sized roster of narrow and broad gauge engines over time but also built and patented their own unique engine design. That's a good company. And for those out there who also enjoy maritime vessels like myself, there have been special ships and barges that have solely been used for transporting beer and wine.

@baltoflyer7503 24 күн бұрын

Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-do I've got a dozen barrels for you Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-day You have caused confusion and delay

@randywise5241 24 күн бұрын

It was a national necessity. Imagine Irish without their Guinness. It might cause a riot.

@OscarOSullivan 17 күн бұрын

Not everyone in Ireland drinks, not everyone who drinks drinks beer and not everyone who drinks stout drinks Guinness, people drink Murphys, Beamish, O’ Hara’s single stout, Porterhouse stouts, Dungarvan Blackrock Irish stout you get the picture.

@Tom-Lahaye 23 күн бұрын

Mr Geoghegan certainly was a smart guy in developing a locomotive which suited all his requirements. A brewery can be an environment with lots of dust from the barley and hops, especially in those days when most of the proces would be open and there was a lot of spillage. Now with pneumatic transport of the ingredients, covered tubs, pipelines for liquid transport and modern filling machines it is a lot cleaner

@PuzzlingHousing56 24 күн бұрын

What's next a locomotive powered by beer?

@AshCatTrainz 24 күн бұрын

Don’t tell him about the moonshine powered locomotive-

@captainryusugi1128 23 күн бұрын

My Bassett-Lowke Moguls at least run on alcohol. If you distilled beer enough to get to 95% (the highest chemically possible ABV), you could steam them on it.

@misterflibble6601 24 күн бұрын

This would make quite a project for a model railway

@damienboyington4057 23 күн бұрын

One of the tank engines (the green on pictured near the end of the vid) is at the talyllyn railway museum. I helped restore that red corris coal truck in the background, some 25 years ago when i was a young volunteer on the railway.

@rottenroads1982 24 күн бұрын

It’s nice to know that some of these unique locomotives are preserved.

@OscarOSullivan 17 күн бұрын

When Guinness was first established in 1759 it was an ale brewery. Only started being a porter brewery in the 1790’s. The narrow gauge railway system lasted until the late 1970’s, but the broad gauge railway line to Heuston station was closed in 1965. A number of narrow gauge Guinness engines and a broad gauge engine no.3 are preserved.

@guidor.4161 24 күн бұрын

It seems even the spiral helix used by model railroaders (espcially in the US) to reach a higher second level of their layout, has a prototype!

@pileofstuff 19 күн бұрын

There's several prototype helix examples, but most of them are in mountainous regions. The Tehachapi loop in California and the spiral tunnels in BC, Canada are some of the best known examples

@guidor.4161 18 күн бұрын

@@pileofstuff True, i forgot about those...

@ratheonhudson3311 22 күн бұрын

They really did make an adaptor for narrow Guage to broad Guage locomotives! Astounding history. Thank you

@NewController01 24 күн бұрын

I think one of the gauge converter wagons can be found at the Amberley Chalk Pits museum.

@zacharyrollick6169 23 күн бұрын

Thanks for the cool history. Gonna crack open a Guinness.

@C.A.A93 23 күн бұрын

Of all the jobs to have, driving a steam train around a brewery sound like a very fun one.

@Arkay315 24 күн бұрын

Yay, my video suggestion finally got made into a video.

@MatthewsBranchLine 20 күн бұрын

Y’hear that folks? Without trains, Ireland would’ve been a lot less drunk. Also Skarloey used a haulage wagon to take standard gauge wagons to the harbor at Kirk Ronan according to the Reverend W. Awdry.

@peters1127 24 күн бұрын

You continue to give us more festinating stories, Thank you.

@TenShine1productions 24 күн бұрын

Id like to see something on the Leek and Manifold railway. The narrow gauge line that pulled standard gauge trucks

@RobertCraft-re5sf 23 күн бұрын

I love being Irish 😊 ☘️ but thankfully I am no longer an alcoholic 🙃

@Steam286 23 күн бұрын

One of the most interesting engines I can think of is a natural gas plant locomotive. The example in question is currently on display at Steamtown in Scranton, Pennsylvania. The example had no firebox to avoid an accidental explosion at the plant. Instead of this, pressurized steam was pumped into the locomotive periodically.

@CATASTEROID934 19 күн бұрын

Fireless locomotives came in a range of sizes and shapes, some used compressed air (where available) but steam was often readily available as plants usually had boilers anyway

@magnificus8581 22 күн бұрын

It was great seeing these at the Guinness museum!

@guidor.4161 24 күн бұрын

Most important railway ever....😁

@tslon4185 23 күн бұрын

I was all in for the idea of a steam locomotive powering an unpowered locomotive, but the worlds most annoying steam engine kept me hooked. Keep up the good work man.

@ImmortalPhoenixxx 23 күн бұрын

Geoghegan: "All of these engines are terrible to maintain and operate, every time we get a new one it's more trouble than the last!" Steam Engine Manufacturer: " Oh yeah? Why don't you go and make one yourself huh? If you think its so easy!" Geoghegan: "Hold my Guinness." *proceeds to make an objectively better steam engine *

@primrosevale1995 24 күн бұрын

If that haulage wagon looks familiar it’s probably cause you’ve seen an edit with Talyllyn in it instead to represent the history of a certain island.

@bostongeis5123 24 күн бұрын

Funnily enough, one of the little guys is at the Narrow Gauge museum in Tywyn

@teeKeri 24 күн бұрын

This was fun, fascinating and educative to watch. Imagine building a model railway of the brewery trains. How cool would that be ♥

@ROCKONNGUNDAMS 22 күн бұрын

I've been waiting for this to come up in one of your videos- I've always found the idea of Haulage wagons to be SO COOL.

@harrisonallen651 23 күн бұрын

Here’s a pint of Guinness for this pub centric train 🚂 🍻

@TheRailwayGuy175 24 күн бұрын

Can you please make a video of how St Pancras station became a hub for beer trains?

@markeast74 22 күн бұрын

genuinely, someone should make this, not in real life but in, say maybe Roblox or smt, or in a virtual experience, or even though I said not in real life, maybe someone could make a museum of this.great vid.

@garryferrington811 23 күн бұрын

This was quite interesting!

@Roy_1 23 күн бұрын

Really cool, I'm glad that there's so many pictures and that they're preserving a few of the engines!

@gregg281261 5 күн бұрын

Greetings Train of Thought guy. Have you considered making a video of the Wolgan Valley Railway? The WVR was a railway to transport shale oil from the middle of nowhere in New South Wales, Australia, to not far from the middle of nowhere, also in NSW. It operated from about 1907 to 1935 and used Shay locos due to the steep grades, impossible terrain and tight curves. It is now a spectacular walking track and includes a long tunnel known for its glow worms. Might be interesting for you.

@peterbottenberg5713 18 күн бұрын

These people were quite on the brink of progress. They were also one of the first to have a formal research and quality control lab. In which a guy named Gosset developed a statistical method. He was not allowed to publish it under his own name, nor refer to his employer, so he used the pseudonym 'Student'. The famous 'Student's t-test has got his name this way. Let all scientist raise the glass to his health :)

@Racer69 24 күн бұрын

I saw them in real life, real cuties.

@TheStickCollector 24 күн бұрын

These are so unique. I want to make one.

@joshmnky 23 күн бұрын

7:00 that is one of the homeliest looking trains I've ever seen.

@ErickC 23 күн бұрын

Wait till you see what WM did to their GP7s and GP9s.

@johnmay6090 22 күн бұрын

Interesting video! Cheers!

@willknipe9491 23 күн бұрын

This is something that bender would be happy to work on

@lukechristmas3951 23 күн бұрын

7:00 I almost forgot to bring this up, but has anyone else noticed the chalk face on the Hudswell Clarke?

@DennisLora2001 24 күн бұрын

Excellent work Train of thought

@justice5832 24 күн бұрын

I like this railway

@TheLostGamerMan 24 күн бұрын

The Irish are amazing people. Steam monorail, and now a beer railway.

@greycatturtle7132 24 күн бұрын

Awesome

@pebblecups 22 күн бұрын

Nice. More interesting than Cosmeston's Quarry Railway, which is what I was thinking of watching this. Come to think of it there were a few interesting narrow gauge lines in South Wales. Cosmeston, and then there was the sand quarrying or whatever it was at Porthcawl and also the dual gauge tracks at some of the mines. There might have been a very short line on Barry Dock too but information is difficult to find so I cannot confirm it, just a picture I saw years ago of a short narrow gauge line.

@barrettoliver2009 19 күн бұрын

God I love trains

@Hushey 13 күн бұрын

sounds like my kind of train!

@tankenginethomas1 10 күн бұрын

I thought it said that ran on beer 😂😂😂

@Yourlocalsudricboi1215 24 күн бұрын

Skarloey Moment

@toyotaprius79 24 күн бұрын

It definitely makes me think that Awdry took more inspiration from Irish railways, stories and landscapes in creating the island of Sodor (and its people). Especially mid-Ulster

@alicehodges9964 21 күн бұрын

I Like Steam Engines Thay Are Amazing i Like Railways

@officialmcdeath 24 күн бұрын

Elements of road-rail maintenance vehicles \m/

@killerbees177 2 күн бұрын

I didn't know Bill and Ben were Irish😂

@EthanTheEngine7 24 күн бұрын

drink! chug! arse! 😵‍💫 also i've been to heuston station, as i live in ireland 👍

@bluehighlander0256 24 күн бұрын

We've narrow gauge No. 22 preserved at the cavan and leitrim railway in Dromod, Co. Leitrim. Minus a boiler

@Marcy53Volkswagen 23 күн бұрын

For Anyone wondering, Train Within a train: 5:32

@robertbalazslorincz8218 15 күн бұрын

When bro orders exactly one more beer but instead of one more beer a small train with several barrels of the stuff shows up instead

@AlexanderVonish 10 күн бұрын

Filling the comically large mug eh?

@snewsom2997 24 күн бұрын

The AB Brewery in STL Mo also has an interesting rail history.

@lordmuntague 23 күн бұрын

I can't believe they didn't paint the funnels black with the top few inches light cream... 😁

@IsaacDaBoatSloth 24 күн бұрын

bEER

@kellybrown8638 22 күн бұрын

"Bee-awe"

@roelantverhoeven371 24 күн бұрын

brewery "halve maan" in Bruges had a pipeline installed under the city in the 2000's.

@The_NW_EngineYT 23 күн бұрын

I'm curious if the same design for the "locomotive powered locomotive" was used for Skarloey in the RWS...

@jamiebray8532 20 күн бұрын

Hey it lasted almost a hundred years. I'd say that's pretty good for the industrial revolution.

@frankw8772 24 күн бұрын

Have a look at the BASS / CORS railway for the bear industry and other industries around in Buringham.

@BHuang92 24 күн бұрын

How about the world's largest model train?

@ErickC 23 күн бұрын

I think they called that "British Rail."

@MrNoUsername 23 күн бұрын

If anyone’s wondering, the music is Bitters At The Saloon by Bird Creek kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aZ5_Z5VozbupaYU.htmlsi=R7hOpIHdrG9volmG

@13garage._ 20 күн бұрын

i been there. can still find rails at the site

@Q8Bart 24 күн бұрын

Drunk engines 😉🚂

@tomppeli. 24 күн бұрын

I'm wondering why not electric? _If_ the brewery was powered regardless, why not electrify the rail network to begin with?

@JeffreyWilliams-dr7qe 21 күн бұрын

Millennials invented all this.

@Kira-vy7vc 24 күн бұрын

Who else read it as bear

@kiefershanks4172 24 күн бұрын

Mmmmmm beer

@petroltrankof2667 22 күн бұрын

What is the music called?

@templar_1138 24 күн бұрын

Oh the stereotypes...

@Austriantrainguy 24 күн бұрын

Engerth Locomotive

@sebastianthomsen2225 24 күн бұрын

🚂🍻😋👍

@cleanerben9636 17 күн бұрын

they could have distilled some alcohol and ran them by burning that. I wonder if it was attempted?

@haydenthetoyologist4117 22 күн бұрын

Why do UK diesels have two tone horns unlike those here in the US?

@edward002gaming 24 күн бұрын

Ofcourse its ireland

@joshuaW5621 24 күн бұрын

We Irish are too reliant on beer, hence why our country is a mess right now.

@AurelGaner 24 күн бұрын

@toyotaprius79 24 күн бұрын

FUN FACToid! Guinness brewery workers were not allowed to intermarry (Catholics and Protestants) until the 1980s, and the very Guinness associated with Irish heritage was actually not just a wealthy family empire but also a strategic tool to subjugate the Irish population from 1759 with alcoholism in parallel with the penal laws etc.

@AurelGaner 24 күн бұрын

Let's leern abaut treins

@Jumansa19 22 күн бұрын

No price and work too much to get alcohol to get to the societies 😞 So many families, relationships and social good behavior were and are still destroyed by alcoholism and people who can't handle the consume and behavior of them self if they get alkalized... "You" should not be proud about any drinking alcohol producers in any country...