No description about what the prompts are NOR what they do. SMH

@@SnipsOfTime69 I'll try to do better in the future

@@FutureTechPilot - Just saying it, because i know that you would get more sales in the future if you do.

And I appreciate the comment, cheers buddy

I appreciate the comment! Thanks a lot, pal

Thanks a lot for the feedback! I'm really glad my video worked well for you

haha cheers buddy! Thanks for the kind words

hope it helps!!

It is a LOT easier merging prompts from: ie. Person & then background....youll have a lot more success this way...Enjoy! Phil

Yeah you're right! Maybe in a couple of months, this will all be very easy lol

Is there a way to get the latest updates on this topic?

@@alexanderg8144you ever find out?

Awesome! I'm glad I could help

Happy to help, pal!

I couldn't agree more! Thanks for sharing your use case. I think lots of people will be able to relate, especially within the next 2 years or so

you are successfully keeping character and outfit , for different scenes ? or even different poses ?

@@mattduncan5500 Usually different scenes, but poses are workable...

That's great to hear, I'm glad I could help!

I completely agree! It's going to be super cool to see what gets created

And thank you for your thoughts! Cheers vuddy

Thanks a lot for the feedback! I appreciate it

haha just trying my best. Thanks for the comment!

And thank you for the comment!

To answer your first question, Midjourney doesn't handle more than one subject very well right now. However, there is something you could try. I would get pictures of both characters I want, then I would 'stitch' them together in photoshop, and then use that image as an image prompt. ^ I don't know if that would work but it came to mind when you asked. And about the custom variables, no that's not a part of midjourney yet. But they are working on something like that for sure. The ability to 'save' characters and recall them in different scenes ... I don't have any inside information, that's just what I understand from hearing them talk about it

@@FutureTechPilot thanks for reply! That's a good idea, I'll try to stitch them in photoshop. Or, actually, I don't even need to hehe - they are 3D models, so I can rougly position them and render in any pose. It's usually getting details that makes it hard, plus DAZ Studio Genesis 8 characters are still on the verge of uncanny valley, so readers don't really like them, unlike Midjourney stuff. And glad to hear there are at least talks in that direction. I'm honestly looking forward to what future brings to Midjourney and it would be nice to learn this tech before it fully got there. Someday maybe I'll be able to visualize my writing myself, whatever way I want, despite not being able to draw pretty much at all.

@@LoneIrbis haha the future will be fun!

You're very welcome!

Cheers man!

Cheers buddy!

Sure thing pal!

My video is almost ready, should be live on Friday 8:30 eastern time, I will link your channel, as I have managed to solve all issues and gain 100% consistency using another tool and midjourney. Thank you.

hahah yeah I know what you mean...

haha I know what you mean about misinformation ... thanks for the comment and I'm glad we share a common interest!

🤝 thanks!

That is a fascinating way of looking at things, thank you for sharing. I knew 'model' came with a 'look' but I never thought of the eye contact. I really like that idea of prompting in terms of broader categories of description ... it's kinda hard to wrap my mind around, in terms of how to teach that to others. But I'll sit with it and try to make a video on it soon. Thanks again for explaining it in clear terms, I'll definitely give you credit when I make the video. Cheers!

@@FutureTechPilot No problem, I am glad to help where I can. I forgot to mention one other thing as well, regarding the part of your video where you mentioned trying to get your subject driving a car. When it comes to different scenes, try the action first, like "driving a car" and see if it works. If it doesn't, then try giving Midjourney a small scenario instead. In this case, a scenario in which a person would logically be driving a car. So basically, try the action you want first and if that fails, switch to a scenario which would contain the action you are looking for. I hope this makes sense. The first subject you describe in the prompt, in this case a woman, is going to be the center point of the image. The second subject, the car, will be given less weight. Try switching the order and make the car the center focus. Also, make sure there are some words between the subjects. I have heard between 4-6. I believe that's what it was: [Subject 1] Descriptive words for subject 1, [Subject 2] Descriptive words for subject 2. The best analogy I have come across is that of a story. Your first subject is the main character and the second subject is the supporting character. If you put a theme or a style before the first subject, it should affect the rest of the prompt. Not always though. Usually, style/theme is the only thing I tend to put before my first subject. For more on that I recommend the following KZfaq channels (I have no affiliation with either one): 1. Making the Photo 2. Thaeyne Also make sure not to use unnecessary words. Every word or special character (like + \ - and so on) adds "noise" to the image. The more noise there is, the less accurate the bot will be. I have heard that anything after 20 or so words begins to loose relevance. I have never figured out an exact word count so results will vary. But there does seem to be something to that. Once again, I hope this helps. We're all learning these things together.

No, I don't think you can do what you're asking for in Midjourney. But check out this video - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNugiLigtrfJYJs.html - maybe you'll find some way to use that technique

Wow! What a cool tip. I'll have to try it out now. Thank you!

Just tried that out, and holy cow, that was incredible!

@@edmoala so glad it worked for you

holey cow! that worked. thanks for the tip

No unfortunately, not at the moment. I mean, not in the way you're thinking. But if you wanted to try, it would be the same ideas as this video (including reference images in your prompt)

Yeah super helpful

Cheers buddy!

Thanks!

It's a good suggestion! My instinct tells me that locking in a seed helps more for finding differences than keeping similarities, but it's worth exploring more. Thanks

That's a really common problem in Midjourney. There is no 'solution' for that now, but my best suggestion would be to create the picture you want using another program (like go into photoshop and put your two characters beside eachother, and then save that image and use it as an image prompt) ... otherwise you'll probably get that blending/mixing

@@FutureTechPilot yes, I’ve been searching in other turials and also investigating by my side and that seems to be a good solution. Still a little bit of mixing, but almost there. Thanks!

Yeah it's not very intuitive to work with

No, not right now. But they're definitely working on character consistency and posing tools! Keep an eye out for updates within the next few months

yeah two coherent characters isn't really possible right now

That's a really good point that I should have thought of! Thanks for the suggestion

can you expand?? what would the prompt be? this is with image reference ?

I think there is a lot of bad advice out there about seeds and I really don't think they help at all with consistency. In fact, they probably hold it back. Seeds are great for testing out changes to a generation (like a person with a happy face/sad face), but they don't help you take a character and put them in different scenes.

Yes, excellent point! It's definitely an iterative process and doing as you suggested would be a good routine to try

Yeah you need to include some words after the image link, or another image link

It's a tricky one for sure, 'full body' usually helps with that. Or you could try changing the aspect ratio - (I know that's not super helpful but it could work for sure)

Right now I don't think you can edit pictures using Midjourney in the way you're thinking

😂 I've never met someone who felt confident using remix. And /blend worked out waaay better than I would have thought lol

Cheers!

Rating your images helps Midjourney but it doesn't teach a specific style, just whether an image was 'pretty' or not

I'm also looking for a way to create consistent comic book characters. perhaps if you pick a genre or cartoonist that will help with consistency. And then use some of the tricks from the video.

I'll make a video on this for sure. But I'll tell you my rough notes -- Process - getting the character in a scene will be difficult, so you're probably going to have to make a bunch of different elements (backgrounds, characters) and then composite them together in something like photoshop - you're going to get pictures of your character using a phrase like 'character sheet' and then divide them up in photoshop, and use the individual pictures as image prompts - you can try generating in Niji journey as well for a more consistent style - utilize the 'variation' buttons - whenever you find a picture you like, hit the variation on it and get as many looks of your character as possible For your prompt - keep the design simple, as simple as can be - mention an artist (I don't personally feel comfortable doing that but it is something that would work) - use 'multiple expressions, dynamic poses' - try '6 different panels' if you're in a wide aspect ratio. try '4 different panels' if it's more vertical - try storyboard - try character design - try character study sheet - image prompt successful pictures hope that helps

@@FutureTechPilot Thank you so much!

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Once you generate a prompt, the link will shorten

@@FutureTechPilot Will try it. Thank you.

I haven't spent much time with Leonardo but it's on the to-do list!

No unfortunately. I'll say maybe we get something in the next 6 months (but I really don't have any inside information)

@@FutureTechPilot what about Leonardo. Does it give consistent same character ?

@@mania7927 kind of, but probably not in the way you're thinking

That's a good idea!! Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it out

I think it could be pretty powerful, but the biggest problem is going to be keeping the same outfit/clothing from scene to scene and I think that is what most people are looking for

@@FutureTechPilot certainly. the holy trinity of consistency that we're all waiting for is: faces x clothes x setting

Really? I hadn't tried to change the fashion style but I believe you lol doesn't sound like something Midjourney is capable of solving right now

@@FutureTechPilot It is like the old 60s western shows like Big Valley and Bonanza where they change everything but their costumes. It will change the color and pattern, but the basic style remains the same. I have not been able to get it to change from cargo shorts to a dress.

@@FutureTechPilot I did play around with weight prompts and seem to get some change in the clothing. There is a new feature I noticed called remaster. Do you know what that does?

@@jamesm7653 Remaster was a thing in Version 3 to update a picture to a newer algorithm.. I just looked for it in V5.1 and didn't see it. Where did you find it?

That's a good suggestion! I'll write it down and give it a try. Thanks

Not possible right now!

I heard a funny trick recently... hit reroll on the remix? or maybe leave remix on, hit 'reroll' and run the prompt again through remix. Sorry if that's hard to explain, I think I'll make a video about it soon

Lot's of good points! Thanks for your thoughts. I wrote them down and I'll point them out in a future video

@@FutureTechPilot Just my opinion. Thanks for remaining open to feedback. We're all learning to shake the berries from this bush. 🪇🫨

I placed the background link right next to the link of the character! You paste them back to back in the prompt (leave a space between them of course)

very very strange! Let me know if you figure out what's wrong

@@FutureTechPilot thanks I'll run through it again today, love your vids by the way, cheers 🥂

That's one of the reasons I didn't them! They aren't a key to consistency at all, in fact, I think they hold you back!

You can email me - futuretechpilot@gmail.com

@@FutureTechPilotwill do shortly! Thanks

haha yeah Midjourney is all about experiments!

Not always! But it's a loooot better

That's a good point! My personal belief is that it will just naturally make any subject face the camera, unless you prompt otherwise. Which is something I should mention in a future video!

I find that variations can help a lot! Especially fixing a 'broken' picture

Used to be good, but lately they kinda get all ugly very fast👀

Nope

Yes good suggestion! Thank you

I think that's how it will work in the future!

I've made almost 40 thousand images and I don't think 'seed' helps in the way people think it will. There is lots of misinformation around it. And in my opinion, it's only going to limit your generation. There are over 4 billion seeds for every prompt, and I like letting Midjourney choose the random seed

@@FutureTechPilot thanks interesting point of view. I will experiment more

Yeah I bet one day they'll have something like that

Yes that's a very good point! Sorry for the misunderstanding

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it helps the a.i learn what is 'beautiful' - not what you want from a prompt

Yeah you're right! I guess I was just showing what happens when you don't change things up, but you're right, I should have experimented more

You're the first person to say that. Hope it starts working better soon

They're working on a Consistent Character feature ... so never say 'never'

I am sure it's already in for elected

Maybe! But my understanding is that it wouldn't really matter. I think the better solution would be to get many views of your character as possible, and then use what you needed for the prompt. Maybe I should make an updated version of this video!

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I know what you mean. Sorry. Maybe I can work on my own digital course soon where I can explain things more slowly

Yeah it's a slot machine for sure