Also, leaving it in the sheath woulda been fun, because then you could do what the Swordfighter class did or even A with her stolen animations. Also, all the Moebius had special powers, M being the biggest example but T with the soulhacking, D and J with their OP perfected Interlink, O and P with their warped Interlink, X with the control... N probably had some NUTTY tricks up his sleeve that he never used. N coulda been like twice as powerful if he just tried. N and M Interlinking would've been SCARY. Plus, an all natural version of the sword Z gives him (Interlinking and then doing what Noah's Ouroboros does where he draws through the core) would be extra stupid. A shame that he and M were so different, after becoming Moebius. N was a changed (maybe deranged) man, and M was both mad at him and also trying to help their enemies. That Interlink couldn't happen. But if it HAD happened... That'd be based.

@@KaroxNightshadeI thought that Z basically gave him the interlink sword on the second battle in base Xenoblade 3. While Noah's represents Ouroboros with Melia and Nia's keys, N's represents Moebius with both keys. Essentially the interlink combines Melia's key with Nia's because Melia made the swords and Nia made the stones. Z basically just gives N admin so he doesn't need to interlink to get the full power of Origin. I basically saw it as the sword of Origin is when someone is using the blade to protect the Endless Now and Moebius and keep everything frozen, while the sword of the End is when Ouroboros goes from simply resisting Moebius to actively trying to destroy the endless now and let Origin continue on it's original programming and plan, essentially Moebius are afraid of Origin's intended purpose while Ouroboros embrace it and have hope that it'll succeed. While in the beginning it's more about soldiers not wanting to kill each other and such and being free of that but around the end it's surprisingly even more drastic than that and the real question becomes are you willing to sacrifice the status quo for a brighter future? As the game continues it's revealed that Aionios is essentially met to be stagnant and essentially is a lack of response to the crisis plaguing the world, as the Annihilation events slowly consume the world the soldiers are left too concerned fighting each other keeping themselves occupied with the Adrenaline of battle rather than the grim circumstances of the environment they live in. Further along this even the people remain stagnant and if it weren't for Ouroboros eventually founding the city the same people would die and come back and continue fighting keeping things in even more stagnation, reinforcing that Moebius's true goal is the preservation of the status quo and fear of Origin's true purpose. Throughout the game we see many Moebius but I believe the Moebius who represented Moebius the best were N and Triton respectively because of how they were humanized. Triton and N(to a much greater extent) both represent Moebius in it's most pure for in my opinion to the extent that they aren't truly happy with the endless now and truly recognize their own fear. Triton originally just didn't want to die and go on more adventures but as he killed others for his sustenance and slowly watched annihilation events destroy the world he ultimately regretted becoming Moebius, and N is an even better representation as he is literally just regret. As mentioned previously N is the #1 Moebius of Keves possibly in general and he in fact was an Ouroboros before, the truth of N was that he'd be alright in the Endless Now as long as Mio was beside him, letting Origin continue meant that he'd never see Mio again along with the possibility of everyone he loves dying of Origin failed, rather than risk losing anything he'd rather protect what he has even though it isn't sustainable. We see that throughout the game as annihilation events take place and Moebius even utilizes the annihilator, while Moebius may seem surperior at the moment, the truth is that slowly whether it be through interlink failures or time Annihilation events will accumulate and everyone will die Aionios genuinely isn't sustainable but for N he's willing to go thorough with it at because he feels as though he has more control in the stagnation. As the game goes on and N watches Noah who is essentially himself in better circumstances and less mental burdens succeed he immediately turn to rage, watching this Noah succeed makes N confront more aspects of himself he doesn't want to accept to which he has to self justify, he has to justify his fear of moving forward whether that be in his personal life or directly in allowing Origin to continue with it's plan of destruction and recreation. Throughout the game while N does seem happy at certain moments his eyes are completely washed out in most, N hates himself for being afraid of moving on as he is painfully aware of his choice to protect the endless now, the system that has oppressed him, but he is simultaneously afraid the reach toward the future, as he sits in his comfort zone as the world slowly falls apart. Even in the game in the Caldisia region especially we see evidence that annihilation events are likely eroding some of the small islands and spots from the world and Z deliberately crashed Origin into the Cent-Omnia region which drastically decreased the lifespan of Aionios in itself. Ultimately the Aionios at large had the accept that the system created to maintain the status quo was failing and furthermore have faith in Origin's ability to save both the world's and take the risk that both universes be destroyed (which ultimately paid off).

Understandable, I get ya

I don't think they could have used Malos' core crystal for the sword of the end, Malos disappeared along with his core

yeah there is a fine line between enticing mystery and confusing. considering how well written the series is in general, sword of the end feels like the writers didnt really know where they were going with this plot thread. and at least if the designs showed consistent transformations/evolutions, but there is conflicting visuals, like early noah using mobius sword pre-mobious. unless that was to imply his heard would be swayed to mobious eventually. when i dont think too hard about it, i can enjoy the swords' roles.

​@Fermin-hw5pd there is actually a theory that one of the pneuma cores may be playing the role of Logos and it isn't necessarily Logos himself. So basically Mathew/Noah would have let's say Pyra's core and N could have Mythra's core. Or it can switch between Noah having Mythra and N having Pyra.

​​@@Fermin-hw5pd don't think so, ontos "disappeared" as well and even more so

@@rezeraj But his core appeared on Bionis one day, Malos' core was destroyed

too soon (but TRUE)

@@MetaSF_ Well if you’re gonna market it as something that can cut through anything, you might wanna make it do so!

That's a good theory, something must've changed from the powers of Pneuma and Logos combining, all human pieces of Ontos no longer having a presence, and the Noah coming into existence even with N still being alive and Moebius. Not to mention like you said, his regret from killing Ghondor but not just that, the constant amassing guilt and regrets. All the way up to his breaking point.

Monado.....ARMOUR

Glad you enjoyed it so much! And I appreciate the depth of response, I try to dig deep into how these things play into each other but literally in the worlds and their thematic placement so I'm happy when others can notice them as well. And you're completely right, out of pure cool factor I think Lucky 7 for sure is at the top, and you get the GAUNTLET too? It was so cool they had to have Link steal that drip, so good. They did the art animations so much justice for the gameplay implementation too

Those words mean a lot to me, so you're very welcome. I have fun doing these and I love Xenoblade as well as many other things so I will keep doing it. I'm happy you enjoyed this as your first video of mine. I'll work hard to keep providing content of this quality and better plus original, hope you stick around for more and thanks once again! 🤝

Love that loyalty, I love the Monado's design too it's so sick, always makes me think back to that incredible title screen

It’s really powerful, but it will never be as strong as it was in XC1’s universe, precisely because of that universe being made up entirely of the very thing that the Monado has control of: ether.

yea that was kind of my biggest faults with xc3, the lack of more focus on the actual "xenoblade" for lack of better term lol. Don't get me wrong I get it cause the real thematic focus was on Ouroboros which is arguably much more important and I did like them doing that, but it is still different ya know

Yea that is one detail I thought of legit right after I got this up, that they could synonymously have the Sword of Origin and Sword of the End respectively for Noah and N. But Y ends up calling Noah's the Sword of the End lol, which wouldn't necessarily disprove that, but you know, I get that they're both essentially the same but differ depending on the user's will and intention. Like N saying Noah will end the world, is just the true world's origin and restart once again. It was kind of funny how even in Future Redeemed, not even Z knows how the Sword of the End came into the hands of N, just some regular dude in all this lol

@@MetaSF_ Well, sword of end/origin is the same sword in japanese anyways. From how I understood, they spell the word Origin in a way that could mean End at the same time. The translation just went with using both terms in tandem. It doesn't matter if Y calls Noah's sword the sword of the end when N calls it the sword of origin, they are both the same thing.

@@nicovoth7243 Yea, Y calls it the Sword of the End, N calls it the Sword of Origin, Nia calls it the Sword of the End, that's why I conclude they're effectively the same but thematically coincide with N or Noah how they so desire, and both names can be viewed in different ways to fit either or. So really it's still ending up being the same like you say

Yea it's weird, N calls Noahs the Sword of Origin then Y calls it the Sword of the End. I assume its because its the same but it depends on the user's intentions from using it or something like that. In N's case, Sword of the End that ends all efforts of freedom towards the world, and Noah's that ushers in the Origin of something new

@@MetaSF_ I thought he said “another Sword of Origin” or smth as in he knew not of its name but just that it looked exactly like his own sword, an understandable reactionary comment he would make.

@@MetaSF_ Actually Melia refers as well to it as the Sword of the End when only referring to Noah alone, are we sure Noah isn’t wielding Sword of the End?

@@corrinflakes9659 thats kinda why it's strange lol. N and Noah call Noah's the Sword of Origin, Moebius Y and Melia had referred to it as Sword of the End, so that's what makes it tospy turvy tbh 🤔

@@MetaSF_ my interpretation for the themes if Noah is indeed wielding the Sword of the End and N wields the Sword of Origin. Noah brings about the End of Aionios. And he came later. N guards Origin, which created Aionios. And he came earlier

Not to mention, as far as design goes it's the most uniform which I know goes a long way for people. And the song in the outro is called 'Unpainted' from NEO: The World Ends With You, and it's an absolute BANGER, you'll love it

Very understandable picks with good reasoning, lots of people don't mind lucky 7 cause they don't wanna think too hard with the others either lol

@@MetaSF_ I get it, lucky 7 sacrifices power for consistency. but come on, you doesn't want a good travelling companion who's a good cook, I definitely do.

@@CakSindox now I'm perfectly fine with people around me, but you'd be surprised how many people commenting NOT wanting to have to deal with another person or interaction lol even if there's benefits of varying kinds

​@@MetaSF_ to each there own, i guess. but i'm not passing up a chance at a good warm meal.

Glad you made it back to me and enjoyed, plenty more to come 🤝

That is true, but I think when looking back, N's sheathe in Chapter 7 is still the same even though Noah shatters it in chapter 5? Harder to tell because I don't think we truly get a good shot of it at that point in the endgame. Even more unsure cause in Future Redeemed, Z mentions how he doesn't know how the Sword of the End made it into N's hand, and Rex also refers to N's weapon as the Sword of the End. That's what really made me unsure of why it didn't appear how it did in Chapter 7 of the base game, since Z and Rex refer to him as already having it.

@@MetaSF_ Yeah I get the thematic reference to the sheathe, but why not have that reference in base first then we come to understand it in Future Redeemed. Instead they chose to make it look like Noah's but purple in the base game.

@@sincere9222 yea that's really I'm getting at. Not sure why they chose to do some of those things that way. Some make sense and others seem like they just didn't consider it

I LOVED that scene, especially when Matthew punches the sword and then it just zooms in on A looking so happy and proud of Matthew, love it. Also as far as how much power origin metal has to give the sword its power is hard to say, but we know its still an incredible amount at the very least lol

listen, I'm the one that made this video and even I'M just barely got up to speed on what to call each one LOL. I call Noah's full one the Sword of Origin and N's the Sword of the End, and for Noah's inner blade that's Lucky 7. And then what I actually DID NOT mention, was that after you beat Chapter 6 (or beat the game OR upgrade his weapon but you get it) if you go to the menu, then System, then Hero Roster and select Noah, it calls his weapon "Truthsinger". So that's ANOTHER name, I kinda wish I brought that up now but it isn't really what the video's about but it would've been funny

Sword of Origin stocks have gone up...

This is why I wish there was more clear shots or models of it, cause theres a lot of shots where it just isnt like that and looks just rounded or is pointed at the end, especially chapter 7, it's weird but good point

​@@MetaSF_ Concept art of the sheath from the artbook where you can get a good look at the sheath has been posted online Anyways, the reason the sheath seems to look different in FR is just because he wears it with the cutting edge on the bottom, rather than on top like in main game. This is completely intentional as well, since the flashback in main game also shows it with the cutting edge facing down. I have no idea what the significance of the sword/sheath being flipped in main game is, though. And in chapter 7, he gains an entirely new sheath that looks a lot like Truthsinger.

@@Liezuli now that I think about it, I got the artbook right here...might have to open it back up

Same, and I love you came to the video 🤝🏾

Honestly, it would've given Noah more points for me LOL, but he got the gauntlet drip so he got some sauce points already

@MetaSF but if the End scabbard did the same...

Yea I was super skeptical about it too, but the sheathe looking really close to Malos' monado on TOP of the purple hues AND it heavily focusing on it having special power, on top of it showing Pneuma's core and as far as how much of comparisons there are being good and bad sides along with the core's place in the story, I kinda believed it. Plus it has to be somewhere, and it would only be poetic for the Pneuma and Logos' cores to clash again from Matthew and N to Noah and N. Part of my only issue with Future Redeemed is that it being the end to this saga, they just didn't clearly say certain things I think they should've

It's strange because it really does change in different instances you see it, I wish it was more consistent even if it is most of the time

Oh really, I might have to take a look at those, I would've come across it soon anyways because a lil insight, I'm working on a Shania video in the near future. But that's an interesting case right there, I mean Blades in Aionios aren't like xc2 so having one or some different ones aren't too strange but I don't think I've seen people really CHANGE them. Not sure why Ghondor's cestic would ever be not her signature ones 🤔

Another thing I’m curious about is how is Shania able to keep her sister‘s blade after her death the only time something like that happens is with a flesheater but only that blade just keeps to keep living even if their driver dies but as far as I know Nia is the only flesheater left in in threes world that has her original properties since she’s never been reborn versus Soldiers that just have a core crystal like one

@@skylerholloway2847 I'm not sure, I don't remember anything really with how Blades work and with people's lifespans, at least for Aionios. in Alrest it's different but in Aionios, I think they're just weapons anybody can pick and use regardless of specifics

I think the naming of it more comes from the influence and impact it had on the world rather than the exact power source, at least that's how I interpret it. Same goes to sword of origin. Makes a bit of different perspectives given whose side one or the other is on

You really came out the winner huh

hmmmm I'd say it doesn't change anything for me in a positive or negative way. Similar with the Logos and Pneuma stuff with N's blade and Matthew's Gauntlet. I mean we already were essentially told in game that it was composed of the friends so fiora was already a part of that anyways. Doesn't really change anything for lore or the characters to me either

I like it, but it could use a unified name officially but considering some of the things they still don't explicitly state in the lore, we aren't getting an official one lol

@@MetaSF_ whoops to long Sword of the end-power based on emotion(power depends on person determination) Sword of origin-power based on connection(how close you to your love 1) Origin 3-based on emotion and connection Strongest?probably yes but still not strong as monado 3 Tbh I love this concept it has yin yang vibes to it

@@ligeringspirit1133 Xenoblade 3 kinda plays with the duality concepts a lot and I really like it too given those vibes. Keves and Agnes, Life and Death, Narrow and Open Minded, Freedom or Containment in the Cycle, and the two halves of Alpha and A, there's more but I'd be typing mad long 🤐🤐

@@MetaSF_ xenoblade 3 focusing on duality -noah and N -alpha and Alvis -shulk and rex -origin and the end

Man... must be NICE

@@MetaSF_ it was and I didn’t know about that attack tell you said something about it!

@@mega-eevee7 my deaths to it now have meaning 🤝

@@MetaSF_ I’m always curious about attacks in any rpg I find it fun to learn about!!

@@mega-eevee7 from what I know, it’s a DPS check, if you deal enough damage he does a weaker Monado Buster. Meta was caught LACKING

I think it's less that they used Logos' power, but more that the true power of Ouroboros was able to be manifested thanks to the combination of Logos and Pneuma's ether energy in sync. Maybe once it happened that first time, or since N still had Logos' core, maybe it was able to fully unlock because of the Ouroboros stone actually being fully powered for once when it was used instead of just pieces of Pneuma and Logos' powers 🤔

@@MetaSF_ I like to think that they were just able to understand Pneuma’s core crystal more after the fight against Alpha tbh, especially considering the fact that we already know that The Sword of Origin/The End are supposedly Logos

quality pick frfr

Very interesting, and yea I know by the time of the main game even if that spot in Noah's sheathe was for the pneuma core, it was gone anyways so by then it isnt powering it. It's definitely more reliant on the Lucky 7 blade's actual power and connection to Origin and the lives within like Melia had told about. I do wish Future Redeemed was more blatant about saying or explaining certain things with it being the end of this saga. I think it needed it for sure but it still came out great. But still having some questions about some things specific to even just xc3 aint great but we do get the gist lol

I see what you mean, but after Future Redeemed it made me more glad that they did it the way they did because they wouldn't have been able to fit all of THAT into the base game and that's STILL with the fact that Future Redeemed could've been an even bigger and more expansive game than it was. Of course, they could've written a way to meld it all into one big cohesive piece, but they had so many ideas outside of the xc1 + xc2 fusion that man, I love that it was an original story that still combined the 2 games even if it was in a lighter way than it could've. But I completely get what you mean

@@MetaSF_ That's a good point. A lot of what held FR up was the foundation set by not only XC1 and XC2, but also XC3. It's possible that FR wouldn't have been as amazing had they spread it out. FR was so damn good that it left me with the urge to replay the whole Xenoblade franchise lol.

Yea I definitely remember, still can't blame you considering it's the only one with an actual uniform look cause the rest are so angular lol

Or rather I guess you could say The Architect just completed the feat for Pneuma on that side of reality, like Shulk with the True Monado was able to get Alvis as Ontos to perform ✍

@@MetaSF_ actually it was still Kalus allowing Alivs to use power because he was controlling the conduit

Now THAT I can get, I mean as somebody who'd love a lightsaber I didn't even think about that being a factor people may not want lol. Not trying to get sliced just by the smallest touch, I get you

well said well said, I mean like at Xenoblade 1's title screen, still nothin like it came after. Even blind you can feel so much potency in it

@@MetaSF_ Big facts my friend.

No I understand why Ontos was as powerful as he was, he both had a more direct link to the Conduit like Pneuma only in that form is able to do, but the Monado simply isnt all about its influence on the world around it being due to the ether construct. Me personally, regardless of that it was the will of the user is what truly made it powerful and not to mention, even without being able to conteol the fabric of the world due to the others not being as ether constructed as 1s, its power in abilities and arts through the form of ether emission is still essentially unchanged. That's why he was still so powerful. As far as Logos goes, even though it never explicitly says, even if it isnt the original it still contained enough power to harm Ontos and his own core through N's Sword of the End and his potent emotions. Ether emission above all else, still proves the biggest asset along with willpower, both ahead of reality manipulation by way of ether

Shhhhhhhhh nah nah we got material for this

They really got their pens and keyboards on fire in the writers rooms

Maybe that will be exanded on in XC4

well mythra and pyra did individually retain one even after they split, so maybe glimmer had it and just never used any of the power or just ended up with ones of the cores but without it having any power

@@MetaSF_ what tells you that mythra and pyra have separated core crystals? If thats the case, does pneuma get one too?

@@yourtrubers1728 just going off of xc2's ending when mythra and pyra have their own bodies, each of them still has their own core crystal

@@MetaSF_ that would create more questions than it would answer for me

yea that was one of my biggest "issues" with XC3, was its staple blade not being as plot centered. HOWEVER, it wasn't too big a gripe because I understand that Ouroboros basically took place of that, so its relevance was more important, and with how well done it was, I'm not mad at it. That concept went great in many ways.

most people honestly have been choosing them for the additional people they get with them lol can't blame them either

@@MetaSF_ To be fair, while SoO and the Monado both sound cool on paper, the hell’d you use then for? Like, sure, seeing the future is cool’n’all but the Monado fully relies on ether, something that doesnt exist. Lucky Seven/Sword of Origin is basically a superweapon, why’d you want it in your day to day?

@@coldtyrant2557 if people can buy fake versions of these now and have them just to have them, imagine if they actually functioned, wouldn't put it past a lot of people to actually use them for decoration or protection tbh lol. And hey if you don't wanna imagine arts being used they're still hilariously huge and blunt lol

@@MetaSF_ that’s fair, whacking someone with a Monado would be both terrifyingly dangerous AND Hilarious

At least in today's world, there are a lot more people who are lonely and just need a friend and companionship than there are people who need a powerful or sharp sword. It's really no question which choice would be more helpful for the one making the choice.

Technically yes but with slight variations based on the wills of the user, to keep the prior world at its End, or usher in a new origin, new beginning

Honestly, I think it's just holding a remnant of Ontos' Monado's power, thats all I see hers as which is why its so different

A's sword is literally the Monado III from Xenoblade 1. It's just shaped differently.

It's the Monado

Yea I thought it was A too, but the way Matthew named them all at the end that he left behind at the City, and then how the plaque for the 7th spot not having a statue was a conscious decision by the founder themselves. Makes sense with how Riku as a person doesn't like talking a whole lot, how when he was telling Matthew that Melia was his masterpon that he doesn't like celebrity namedropping, he's not shy but doesn't like a whole lot of fame. PLUS, he couldn't have a statue of him or else literally everybody would've found out his secrets if he showed up there with them and they saw his statue lol

@@MetaSF_ the egg does represent riku better than A

​@@MetaSF_also by the end of FR, A is already back inside origin taking the place of ontos/alpha as the avatar to keep it running along with shulk and rex. So it's not like they really "founded" the city afterwards because they weren't there. Similarly, the only reason shulk and rex have statues is because linka and panacea (the actual founders) made it in honor of them. So it makes sense it's Riku for the 7th since A wasn't even there afterwards.

I should've been in that writer's room to find out who approved that LOL, (also where's my epilogue for the 3 cast)

Aye you got that, a lot of people feel the same or even with Malos LOL