The Truth About Classic Porsche 911 Ownership (Episode 2

The Truth About Classic Porsche 911 Ownership (Episode 2 - Getting The '76 Back On The Road)

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Күн бұрын

If you're familiar with classic porsche 911 ownership, then you know they take a toll on your sanity. So the question becomes "why do we continue to own these cars when it always seems like they need one repair or another?
The truth of the matter is that I often ask myself that very question. But in this video I talk about how I'm taking a different, new mindset about how to enjoy the trials and tribulations of classic Porsche 911 ownership.
In many of my videos, I tell viewers about all of the positives of owning air cooled Porsches: the virtues of driving a slow car fast vs a fast car slow, the analog driving sensations that these cars delivery, as well as the fun community that surrounds these cars.
But the darker side of classic Porsche 911 ownership that I don't talk up as much involves the expenses of repairing, maintaining and sorting them along with the emotional frustration that chasing problems and gremlins involves.
0:00 Start
0:20 Background on my 1976 911 repairs
1:42 Ice green metallic 911 walkaround footage
3:32 Engine compartment clean up plans
5:39 Frunk clean up/refresh plans
7:24 Interior plans
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Porsche 911's I currently own or have owned:
- 1969 Porsche 911T Hot Rod in Ossi Blue (sold) - 1976 Porsche 911S in Ice Green Metallic
- 1977 Porsche 924 Martini Edition Safari Car
- 1986 Porsche 911 Carrera in guards red (SOLD) - 1992 Porsche 911 964 in Amazon Green metallic (SOLD)
- 1995 Porsche 911 993 Coupe in polar silver
- 1995 Porsche 911 993 in Grand Prix White
- 2007 Porsche 911 997.1 Turbo in guards red (SOLD)
- 2009 Porsche 911 997.2 C4S PDK (SOLD)
- 2014 Porsche Cayman S
- 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
- 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder
- 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S
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@johnice2157 Жыл бұрын

This Porsche is very lucky to have this owner...

@Timski2543 Жыл бұрын

The truth is: "It's awesome!" . I stumbled on this video as i'm finishing up the refresher project on my '87 carrera 3.2. When I heard creaking from the rear I thought it was a wheel bearing. So I started my first project to work on my car. Well, it turned out to be a sheared sway bar mount. By that time, plans changed to drop the engine and trans to do a refresh. Lots of leaking seals, hoses to be replaced, and trans 2nd/3rd synchros were worn. Life got in the way and 2 years on I'm just about to get everything back in the car. Lots of hours spent but totally worth it. No new car will give you the same smile on your face

@KevinFlory993 Жыл бұрын

Never had a situation where there was any question that the car was worth the repair. But you are absolutely correct that when you separate yourself from that being an question, it changes your perspective. My 993 has been a forever car for me since I bought it new and my goal is to always do what is best for the car long term and I think that has served me well.

@tacosandfrenchfries4561 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Good advise on getting your mental side right when owning classics. Thanks

@scalecrawlnl Жыл бұрын

Thank you Sir. Refreshing honesty and positivity. Great of you to also take along the fellow Rennthusiasts with for example, a bus pass. Thank you very much for the welcome atmosphere. Love the consistent updates allowing to follow along with the rebuild project. My '2 cents', if it's structural, repair to current standards, scuffs and marks, leave to show the history. Just clean up and spend funds on essentials. I have no problems with a spot or two. As always, great video, what an awesome 911 project and thanks again. Perhaps as an idea, check out local car detailers for freshening up the cabin carpet. There is a machine I know of that is a liquid vacuum type that cleans with water and brush.

@daggidding4478 Жыл бұрын

Superb car. I love the ice green metallic and the tan interior. Also a big fan of the wheels. I totally understand that this one is a keeper 😃👍

@crossroadz483 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the videos Will. I'm in the process of refreshing an '83 SC and can relate to what you are going through. I like patina as well and debate dry ice cleaning the undercarriage vs keeping as is. I prefer keeping the little imperfections as they tell the story of what the car has been through over the years. My car was built when I was in high school and we both have been through a lot since then. One recommendation on the cleaning - there's a guy ChrisFix on KZfaq who has a few nice videos on detailing. I especially like the one about super cleaning a car interior. I'm sure you can use some of his techniques. I plan to try a steam cleaner for the carpet but not sure about the grease stains. Good luck. Its about the journey, not the destination.

@apexwetdog Жыл бұрын

I have a 986 that I bought a few months ago as my first Porsche (I know it’s not air cooled). I have been doing the work myself to fix things and can relate to the ownership frustration already. However when I drive it all that frustration disappears. I hope to some day get an air cooled car as I love the engineering in these cars. Also born and raised in the Triad and now living in the Triangle so love the local content!

@alexanderkubald4384 Жыл бұрын

Great Video and lovely to see that GModell S in Ice green. Gorgeous. You should contact Ian Tyrell from the UK to check on the carpet cleaning issue. His chap is doing miracles on old Lambos, preserving the patina. Greetings from Germany, A

@TxGerman Жыл бұрын

Dry ice cleaning is an excellent way to “refresh” an underbody, engine bay, etc. Although it can get expensive, the results are worth it IMHO. Considering most classic or collector cars are not driven heavily and not driven (much) in inclement weather, a dry ice cleaning should last for a while. I also like it because then it helps me detect things sooner when something might not be right (e.g. develop small oil leak). Your car will be even better when you’re done with this current chapter! Keep up the great work.

@angrygardener2430 Жыл бұрын

Yup. I can relate. Bought my ‘77 narrow body 6 years ago and quickly got under water. 3.6 Engine swap, 915 rebuild, Suspension. But after the initial pain and tears the car has been solid and a great drive. Probably better than spending the same on depreciation on a newish car.

@jibmaster Жыл бұрын

It's going to be sweet! Try using an upholstery steamer, carpet cleaner, soft bristle brush, etc. on the carpets. The door pockets...once they warp they tend to be difficult (originals seem to be made out some fiber board material). Or you could go RS, RS with recessed pleated pockets look period and cool. Slippery slope! Thanks for taking the time to make your videos Will.

@derronius Жыл бұрын

I have a 997.2 and may never own an air cooled, but I love to watch your videos. You have something special going on. Thank you.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your kind words 🙏🏽🙏🏽

@garydilbeck340 Жыл бұрын

I love the car. Good on you for feeling the same👏. In regards to the deck lid grill. Would that not be a fairly easy DIY refurbish? As you pointed out, the camera is not a naked eye so, my point may be a moot one. Just a thought on keeping the original part. As always. Take good care👍

@donaldmarklarsen8309 Жыл бұрын

As a former auto-body repairman, I love the idea of ice blasting as a way to get things looking new again as far as getting rid of years of road grime. However, I would also be keen on re-applying the original cosmoline back on it for rust protection. Assuming of course that the original polymer undercoating was still in good shape.

@andyjackson5404 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy your videos … keep up the great content 👍🏻 I own a 2022 GT3 Touring Manual - currently hunting for a 97 or 98 wide body C2S. Slim pickings out there and the prices are not easing up. I purchased a new 98 Arctic Silver over cashmere off the showroom floor in 1998(divorce raped in 2009). Today’s prices adjusted for inflation are still off the charts. Hoping to rejoin the air cooled family again soon. Thanks again for your effort in keeping the air cooled Porsche community going strong 😎😎😎

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, and good luck with your search.

@randybrown6709 Жыл бұрын

Love the inside look at classic 911 ownership that your videos provide. The 964 is the most appealing to me but it's crazy where the market has gone for those cars. I spy some non air-cooled content in there, Sapphire Blue 981 possibly.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Good eye. Yes, a 2014 981 Cayman S. 6MT sapphire blue metallic.

@seandenny1553 Жыл бұрын

It does look pretty cool on the ice blast some of those old cars with the details makes them look brand new I guess depends on what you like I like a brand new old car

@FlatsixSTM Жыл бұрын

Those gauges are minty fresh!! Will, between all the cars coming in and out and the pains of ownership and everything you’ve had to do to get them sorted and all the subsequent rationalizations to justify it at the end of the day. You’re an addict man, and you’ve got it bad! I do too, and I feel your pain but at least I can take comfort in the fact that someone else has it worse than me 😂 Enjoy your content and good luck. Cheers

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@TheJabern Жыл бұрын

Will: Another enjoyable video! Hopefully some content/backstory on the recent acquisition of the Cayman will be forthcoming??

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Yes, it’s in the que. I love it. Fantastic car and a great option in the garage.

@where-we-roam Жыл бұрын

Will, in regards to the warped door pockets, you can steam those. Dave @Sonderwerks did mine when I dropped it off to him for some other interior work. Came out really nice. My guess is that you can do it easily yourself. Just call him and get the specifics. Love this car. Glad you feel like she is a "forever car."

@MW-uy3np Жыл бұрын

Looking at a momo wheel and new gauges is pretty awesome. Maybe remove carpet and take to a rug / carpet cleaner? Maybe Ask Sonderwerks what they do.

@chadbailey7038 Ай бұрын

Great KZfaq detailers videos out there that can help you a lot with your cleaning questions! I highly recommend AMMO NYC he’s even documented cleaning a few Porsches. Also “iAmDetailing” has done some awesome Porsche details vids. Including undercarriage work! 👍🏾

@mountpearl1 Жыл бұрын

Dry ice cleaning would be a bit much for me. Dish soap (to break up the grease and oil) and a dollar store paintbrush would be my plan. Then a cheaper ceramic coating on everything I could reach to sorta lock it in place. In places that never see the sun it should protect it for years

@tacosandfrenchfries4561 Жыл бұрын

For a classic porsche I like patina instead of the dry ice cleaning etc.

@AndyBrookes Жыл бұрын

I'd recommend getting some industrial wet wipes. I used them to clean up my engine bay. Much better than using water. I have had the underside of my car ice blasted, it's come up so well, I have resealed with bilt hamber products. Love the ice cream 👌 I miss the Fuchs on it, they looked so good, but good to mix it up 👍

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thoughts. I still have the Fuchs with fresh tires and am sure I’ll swap back and forth.

@trevormacdougall9385 Жыл бұрын

Anybody try to replace that pad over the engine that falls? Mine needs replacement but it’s pretty tight quarters back there. Any advice?

@josejesus6124 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video's 👍👍

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

@allahyarnejad4797 Жыл бұрын

I dry iced my 356 when I took the engine out. It is well worth it as the chemicals needed would have made a huge mess.

@jeffgagnon4557 Жыл бұрын

Carpet Use tide laundry detergent and a brush. Works great for me 😊

@jeffbaker2532 Жыл бұрын

It looks as though there’s a black plate covering the firewall in the smuggler’s box where a former a/c unit was? I have a huge hole in my 76S Targa where the VW A/C unit was dealer installed. I removed a condenser and fan last weekend and it left an enormous hole. Can’t imagine cutting the huge holes in a new car for A/C. Also have a hole in passenger fender from the frunk for the a/c hoses. Are you happy with the plate solution? Is it sealed well to prevent water intrusion? I’m trying to figure out a solution. Thanks

@adammarston1 Жыл бұрын

Hi Will, love the Ice green metallic on Cork combination. Those carpets look a bit too far gone... I recently did a carpet replace on my '85, as well as a a complete interior colour swap from Dark grey to two-tone Black on Cashmere, all done at home. Results were as good as professional but I was meticulous. Carpets were by far the easiest part. Check out Lakewell, they can source the carpets and door pocket parts. Can send you photos if you want to see the outcome. Best of luck!

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Yes, would be curious to see the result. If you’d like, send me an email at therennthusiast@gmail.com. Thanks!

@adammarston1 Жыл бұрын

@@Rennthusiast will do. I'll send some before, during and after shots.

@thelews4 Жыл бұрын

I must be one of the lucky ones. Hope I'm not jinxing myself. Bought a very original 1970 911E in 2013, 73K miles on an original, never removed engine, original interior except incorrect seats after Recarros sold by seller (too bad). Did things myself like fix the door pockets and armrests, source correct seats and have them reupholstered, adjust clutch travel to my liking, replace oil level sender, rear brake caliper years later. The big issue was the engine cutting out and then backfiring when popping back on, like turning the ignition key on and off quickly. Didn't drive the car for one summer I was so disgusted with it. Happened upon a guy who told me to check an electrical junction, particularly pin 13 (I think). Sure enough, corroded, cleaned, problem solved, but not before replacing a blown original muffler from backfiring. Fast forward, 9 years, 4K miles and my next issue was a leaking (high pressure) fuel filter seal when I attended an air-cooled event and gas was running out of the car. Replaced that seal, probably with the original fuel filter and a bunch of original, very stiff fuel hoses. Car runs, drives, sings beautifully, always has. I have a spreadsheet of the work I do, Porsche 911E, 40 entries, 10 years, at least a 1/3 just maintenance. Got a 1971 Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV in September of 22. Gorgeous car, thought i wouldn't have to touch it, 80 entries over two months sorting it out. Still have springs and shocks to go. I have other vintage cars also and know the least about the 911E mechanically because I've had to do so little. Will, I still have my son's 1991 BMW 318is from high school, he's 33 now, 188K miles, all original, runs great, needs suspension refreshing. First car I ever bought was a 1972 BMW 2002 my sophomore year of college in Colorado. Talk about the right car at the right time, what a blast. To and from school was an 1130-mile trip, that car just sang and smoothed out like glass at 90 mph on the interstate. Sorry for the long comment, but we have common interests in marques. The 911E sits next to a 356C. Totally different, but the 356 is a blast and where Porsche finds its roots.

@mikeyatesautomotive Жыл бұрын

How much were the charges for restoring the mile clocking guage ?

@themistress9823 Жыл бұрын

Very cool but why not just have your current gauges rebuild since the car is just sitting there? Also on that rear grill, take it out, clean it and paint it with trim paint. Seats look great!

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

I did a core exchange with my gauges.

@detonator2112 Жыл бұрын

You can easily just spray paint the grill black. No need to replace, imho.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

That occurred to me also. Paint recommendation?

@xxhotelcrazyxx Жыл бұрын

Do you have a link for John Bells Guage repair by any chance?

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Please send me an email and I’ll share his contact with you. Therennthusiast@gmail. Thanks.

@homerfj1100 Жыл бұрын

Trying to stop or reverse entropy is very difficult.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Yep

@ramongar Жыл бұрын

Hi the gauges are great! How do we reach out to John Bell?

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Pls send me an email at therennthusiast@gmail.com and I’ll give you his info.

@michaeldougherty9477 Жыл бұрын

I now have to rebuild my 1987 Carrera 3.2 engine from a thrust baring failure. Any suggestions? 😢

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Break out the wallet. Have you found a shop? Are you a DIY owner? Or do you need a referral to an engine builder?

@michaeldougherty9477 Жыл бұрын

I am a DIY type guy but the thought of a full rebuild without a chaperone is intimidating; I’m in NJ- all advice welcome .

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldougherty9477 shoot me an email at therennthusiast@gmail.com. I have a couple of shops north of me (VA and PA) that could help you.

@jakkovaningen8350 Жыл бұрын

An unboxing video for rennthousiasts, you never cease to amaze 😄

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

LOL. I’m a nerd.

@jakkovaningen8350 Жыл бұрын

@@Rennthusiast same here, I guess 😀

@johnrodgers6049 Жыл бұрын

Old cars = spending money. If you get emotional about it, you haven’t been in the game long enough. If you defer maintenance, then the car loses value (that’s why cars with extensive maintenance records are more valuable). Old cars with bad records that seem to be a deal are usually more expensive in the long run. Still you can get burned on the best cars. Just go into it with the attitude that something bad can happen. It’s part of the game.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’ve learned on my journey

@roscoebookbinder5370 Жыл бұрын

Replace all the fuel lines while the engine is out.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Yes. We are doing that big time.

@akjones9909 Жыл бұрын

I'm 74 and have owned '67 912, 1970 911S drove my friends '79 924 for a year- a piece of junk.

@akjones9909 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't buy a '74-77 for all the tea in China. To me I haven't driven anything like the pre 1974 Porsche.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Watch the values 😜

@georgelouie2758 11 ай бұрын

lol that was one really short forever car.

@Rennthusiast 11 ай бұрын

Lol you’re not wrong

@ebehne Жыл бұрын

The gauges fog up. It’s part of these cars.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

I disagree. My others do not fog.

@ebehne Жыл бұрын

@@Rennthusiast I guess it depends on the severity of your fogging, but condensation at the beginning of a drive is pretty well documented with older Porsches. The gauges weren’t sealed and therefore are susceptible to moisture forming. Either way, yours are better than new now.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

My 993 tach fogged once coming down out of the mountains on a dry day. It was weird but I am sure it had to do with the drop in altitude. I have heard that fogging is common so definitely not debating you, so I guess I’ve been lucky for the most part. Thanks for watching 🙏🏽

@richardkinsfather2045 Жыл бұрын

Given the conventional wisdom that you seem to ignore. '75, '76 and '77 are disaster years for Porsche 911's, and all the money you throw at them accomplishes nothing.

@Rennthusiast Жыл бұрын

Do your homework, friend. The issues with the mid years center on the 2.7’s mag case, thermal reactor, heat, etc. My car has a 3.2 from an ‘88 Carrera. Thanks for the sage wisdom, though, Dick Kinsfather.