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We all need to social distance ourselves from the media.

I am a Taiwanese living in Sweden. Just want to clarify - Taiwan imposes no lockdown. Like Sweden, it’s business as usual, schools are open. People are acting very cautiously when going about their lives. Public spaces (elevator buttons, handrails etc) are cleaned and sanitized several times a day to prevent contact transmissions. Temperatures are checked and sanitizers offered at the entrance if you are to enter buildings/offices, some restaurants/cafes. People wear masks and practice social distancing. Mass gatherings are canceled or advised to be canceled. What’s different is that Taiwan imposes containment measures and has been doing rigorous contact tracing since the beginning of January. So people who came in contact with patients tested positive or people who entered into Taiwan are required to do mandatory self quarantine at home for 14 days while the rest of the population goes about their businesses. These people are subsidized as an encouragement to stay home. So the goal is to limit the spread to the minimal extent in order to buy time for effective anti-viral medicine and vaccine. Sweden on the other hand is not really containing the spread. The strategy here is to reach the herd immunity status so the goal is not to limit the spread but to let the disease spread slowly through population. However, when we could reach the herd immunity status remains debatable within the public health community. And there is no consensus with regard to how long the immunity will last. Also, at this point, we don’t even know exactly what percentage the spread is here in Sweden. The statistics offered by HFM are built on various assumptions and theoretical modelling. Also, we don’t even know if there will be long-term damage to the lungs after young, healthy people have recovered from covid-19. I think people or even scientists are worried about Sweden’s approach because of these different unknown factors and the fact that we are dealing with a novel virus which we know little about. At this point, it’s hard to say which approach or strategy is better. Guess we will know when this is over. But regardless lockdown or no lockdown, the damage in economy is evident everywhere even in Sweden or Taiwan. No single country is able to get out of this with the so-called minimal economic tolls given the globalization.

"There's zero corruption in the government..." Perhaps there's not as much as other countries, but seriously? You must live in a utopia.

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The politicization of this crisis has been absolutely pathetic.

Correction: Taiwan was never locked down, they are one of the countries that responded to Covid-19 very early on, sounding the alarm to the world health organization (WHO) but was ignored due to politics. Taiwan has successfully contained the spread on its own without the help from WHO.

zero corruption? Come on, dude.

Fear! Fear! Fear!....turn off the Television, you’ll start to feel so much better.

In South Korea, we do feel much safer, no second wave at all. New confrimed patient is less than 10 people in whole nation. So far I'm quite proud of my nation and our all medical supports

I think Sweden was right to introduce lighter measures. There's no sense of shutting down everything. You can see how it ends: agressive protests (not only in the US), thousands of people losing there jobs, anxiety, depression, mental problems... and yes, people die from covid but most of them would die anyway from other diseases, sadly. I totally agree with lighter measures, because you can ot really see in Sweden these disadvantageous consecuences of the total closure. Most younger people would be okay with covid, experts say this, so why closing schools and jobs? Protect the elderly, give them quarantine, tell younger not to get too close to their elder family members, raise consciousness about this and let the under-60-year-olds live their lives!!!

Living in the U.S., I feel like the lockdowns have caused a lot of damage. Sweden had the right approach in dealing with the corona virus. That is really wonderful there is a good relationship between the Swedish government and its people (and vice versa). I wish it could be like that here in the U.S. (this country has become so divisive). I agree, that a lot of people are scared from watching the news and buying into everything the media says. I've been trying to live as “normally” as possible and not in fear. I know you have gotten a lot of comments on your video, but if you happen to see this, could you let me know how the situation in Sweden is today (December 2020)? Thank you so much for your video and sharing your thoughts and perspectives.

Long story short: Swedish people rarely live with their parents or grandparents, they often live by themselves. And the government has Universal Healthcare and Paid Sick Leave, they do not force employees to go back to work while sick. These things make self quarantine, social distancing, and protection of the elderly much more practical.

"There's zero corruption in the government." - Ignorance is bliss

”The healthcare system is not at capacity” That did not age well

Thank you for everything ❤️

Unfortunately, in the USA we are more unhealthy than Sweden. Obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease all plays a part in our mortality rate.

I feel like we could cure the coronavirus by just shutting off our televisions.

Thank you guys for making this video. In case people attack you for "not caring about elderly people" let me tell you that my own grandfather died 10 years ago because he caught a virus. We loved him and we miss him and wish he didn't catch a virus but he did. He's immune system couldn't handle it because he was old. This is life, viruses are part of this world and we can't lock down our lives because of it.

Please give us a Sequel now. Great video.

SOCIAL DISTANCE FROM THE GOVERNMENT WILL DO IT

When I heard you say that there is " zero corruption" in Sweden you lost me. There is corruption everywhere!

Given the new restrictions imposed, it maybe interesting to put a follow up video out there!

How to find out which country not doing social distances; I tried to google it and not working

This video makes too much sense. Why hasn't KZfaq removed it?

I'm from Taiwan. Just want to correct your info. There hasn't been a lock down here at all. Everything is pretty normal, except that almost everyone wears a mask and people practice more social distancing. The government spends a lot of efforts tracking people who have contacted with the infected people. If you have contacted with them, you will be asked to self-quarantined at home for two weeks and then tested. So far this strategy works quite well. Very low spread and death. Most cases in the past month were people who came back from abroad. Very few domestic cases.

Tack så mycket för att ni tar upp det här till och med folk i skolan har börjat tro på det andra länders nyheter än vad som är här 👍🏻🙏🏻❤️

"There's a certain community feeling in Sweden". Well yeah, Sweden has a population of 10 million, the U.S. about 330 million.

The key: homogeneity of class, less overcrowding (single households), hospitals are not at capacity. Different infrastructure. We have urban “hotspots” of overcrowding. Overwhelmed testing and healthcare systems.

correction needed: South Korea has not been hit by the 2nd Wave. It is very much controlled.

Exactly my thoughts from the beginning. The lockdown was a stupidity. I still see people jogging and with masks on... ridiculous and dangerous!

so now June 13 most Nordic countries are reopening and they are not open to Sweden and Sweden is now complaining

I'm from Spain. After a lockdown of almost 2 months, our herd immunity is only of 5%. What's been the point of all of this? Jobs ruined, a damaged economy...and almost the same risk of contagion

Just a note, South Korea and Taiwan aren’t experiencing a second wave and they probably are the most exemplary countries to learn from on how to deal with this situation without going into a lockdown as neither of those two countries were in a lockdown.

Well this video didn't age very well. Like at all. Adjusted for population, Sweden has one of the highest - if not thee highest - coronavirus death-rates in the world. Sweden's COVID-19 death count of 4,795 is equivalent to there being 143,850 in the United States. That's an absurdly high amount of deaths compared to your neighbors in Norway and Denmark. Furthermore, we don't know how this disease is going to affect people in the long run and whether or not people can fully recover. And we don't know if the antibodies generated as a result of a SARS-CoV-2 infection actually confers any type of long-term immunity to it. The argument for saving the economy is probably the weakest and most reprehensible. It is incumbent upon a society to do everything in its power to protect the most vulnerable - in this case the elderly. They are the very people who built Sweden and made into the great country that you've been so fortunate in inheriting from them. It is your duty to do anything and everything in your power to make sure that they are protected and safe from this, and your society has failed miserably at that. What's most pathetic in all of this is that you didn't even try despite all of the early warnings from other countries about just how bad it was going to be. Sweden has deliberately chosen to put profits over people's lives. Why? So that millennials and gen-x'ers can continue going out to bars and restaurants? Herd immunity? Please. More like culling the herd.

“There’s no corruption in our government” Bwahahaha!!! 🤣🤣

Swedish approach can only work in sweden: effective govt, good healthcare system, educated and less brainwashed citizens, etc.

I 100% agree with all you have said .There is Drs out here in the US trying to tell everyone the same thing you just said , but people are so freaked out

I appreciate the common sense approach. I live in a small town in Massachusetts USA and am afraid for the small businesses who may not recover from the shutdown. Keeping our immune systems strong includes fresh air and sunshine as well as social contact (in a safe and distanced way). I think this has been an extreme response from the federal government that will have disastrous results overall. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Do you have an up to date opinion for September 2020?

7:06 FYI, Taiwan never went into lockdown, and never had a community outbreak like the rest of the world. What they did was closed all borders with China and screen all international flights coming into the country, way before any other country did. Mandatory and voluntary home quarantine was also enforced quickly, as well as excellent contact tracing for all cases.

I am 64 years old with 2 underlying health issues. I made the decision to self isolate On March 10th. I think all people here in the United States should be allowed to make their own decisions as well. Give people the right to chose according to their individual health concerns. Sounds fair to me. I think Sweden has the right ideas on this. Thank you for the video.

I have 1,969 cases of people infected with the coronavirus where I live in Ottawa, Canada with 248 death. Ontario is still in a lockdown with small businesses opened on the street, restaurants only for take-out or delivery not sit down, dynacare, garden centres, and car dealerships. Hairdressers and dentists are locked down and so are schools. With doctors, people communicate by phone or in zoom. One cannot go to the doctor or hospital unless an emergency. I have been in a lockdown since the end of March. A few camping grounds and tennis courts are opened.

Okay, now say this personally to those people who actually lost a loved one. Tell how "effective" this method has been and how you completely trust the government. Just because you're still fine and healthy, doesn't mean it's "working".

Greetings from Australia. I am sitting on the fence in handling this virus. The anxiety around Covid -19 is quite toxic, people may die from a broken heart with no hugs and affection for months. Also lack of vitamin D & lack of being outside is now linked to higher risk of getting Covid-19.

Dr. Erickson an emergency room Dr.of the Bakersfield CA talked about the same issues and generally agrees with your assessment.

I worked in Sweden for 1 year and left once the Covid closed the airports and I wanted to go home from that point but I have to say the social distance is daily thing, it was pretty boring over there compare to the U.K. so I think this is why they didn’t bother with lockdown just made aware of the moment you got the cold stay at home

"It's not like our health minister is smarter than other health ministers" Our health minister is a nutcase lol

Korea never went into full lockdown either, just one city. They just reacted quickly: the people, the authorities and even companies, they all took it seriously early on. I live in Seoul, which had direct flights with Wuhan and things are getting back to normal, we had less than 15 new cases today. Meanwhile, my homeland Spain is 1 month under severe lockdown because they not only failed to do social distancing early on, but the Government was actually encouraging the people to join mass demonstrations in March 8th.People in Spain were making jokes and repeating it's the flu until it was too late and they had no other choice than locking down everybody. 21,000 deaths in Spain vs 200 deaths in Korea. That's the difference it makes a quick reaction.

There is one area where we failed in Sweden and that is in the protection of elderly. However, looking at the daily death statistics, we are not higher than previous years (except for a period of 9 days).

*LAUGHS IN ITALIAN*

And i am not swedish! But they actually did the right thing. Excerpt from letting old people die with out treatment!

One subject you didn’t raise - domestic violence has exploded in lockdown countries such as France and Italy. Women and children suffering.

I live i Norway. Just want to say. We Skandinavians have to stand by each other. 💛💙

Have you ever checked how many peple have died in Sweeden compared to other nordic countries

In Paraguay Asuncion . The Federal government take serious action. It's awesome. But ? In brazil some states take a serious precaution. But ? It's a lot government corruptions...

Wish I was in Sweden now. Our economy is being flattened. I live in the Netherlands

I live in japan and it's mostly still open. Corona is almost gone from the country. But people are diligent about masks and spraying alcohol on hands etc.

I love the comedy of having to do the 'Disclaimer' .....unfortunately I am listening to you!

How many positive cases are you seeing in Sweden?

I live in Sweden and I do exactly as your brother, cleaning my groceries:)

Hi! In Austria the situation is positive and we are back to school.

“The people Trust their Government and the government Trust it’s people”. Sweden is already ahead of the world with that one simple statement. Here in the USA, not so much.

Its actually different compared to the Philippines. In the way things are run there. I live in Mjöbäck and its a remote place. Not so many people here. And in my country its a lot of people in one place.

In Coasta Rica- it’s extreme. Closed borders, driving restrictions, closed businesses, prohibited to go to the beach or swim or surf. Even in areas that are completely virus free. I completely agree with you, people will react in a frenzy to socialize after being shut away. Take precautions- let the healthy be on about there business. The poor here are suffering greatly from this.

I appreciate the video, and perspective. I believe Sweden has taken the correct approach as they do with many issues. However the US political system is used as a tool to make money through government bailouts for the banks, politicians and all the big corporate conglomerates. As the saying goes in Washington “never waste a crisis.” Fortunes are being made for the few while financial ruin is happening to the many.

Hey u guy im from Thailand and i about to move live with my bf in stockholm any tip to lean swedish fast 😍

Hi from. Canada....Victoria,B.C....I. am in the elder group. ..we are doing well,but you glossed over the danger to us..We need to protect. others. not just ourselves! We are social distancing to. Keep others well.It sounds a bit like older people are not important enough...I am grateful to live in Canada......herd immunity may be myth..I hope it goes well as I have my dear grandson living in Sweden so I pray it goes well!

It's much too early to say if getting infected means you would be immune forever. We don't know if you can't be infected again or if immunity does actually last forever.

Sweden has taken a good holistic approach. They rely on their people to act wisely. I think find in the end they did the right thing. I support them.

It is helpful to identify three types of patient behaviour and immunity. a. Asymptomatic carriers develop negligible antibody titres that vanish within a fortnight. b. Mildly symptomatic cases likely develop modes antibody titres that vanish within a month or two. c. Severely symptomatic cases develop ample antibody titres that last up to six months but not likely to go on for a year.

What will your video be about now....in July?

7:04 South Korea and Taiwan? No, they didn't go into quarantine. No, second wave yet(Don't trust media you said). Total death so far are 240 as of April 25th in S. Korea population of 50 million. Total population of Sweden is 10 million and 2000 sad death. How do you think you are doing alright?

Fantastic. We are still in full lockdown in South Africa, and it seems its more a power trip than anything else. Some of the regulations are just a joke.

What is the current status of covid19 cases in Sweden

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I like Mark Twain's quote, "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." Sweden's death rate is a more honest reflection of the virus death toll. Statistics play the odds, like scientific formula's. It doesn't actually tell us anything useful about the virus. I envy Sweden's approach. It's honest with the handling of the virus, in all it's confronting unpleasantness. While other countries (including my own) pretend they can control it through a mythical vaccine, at some point in the future. They've never successfully developed a vaccine for coronavirus. SARS, 17 years ago - still nadda vaccine. Yet part of the same virus family.

"you're not flattening the curve, your shifting the curve"

when people blink alot, it's a psychological reaction to pressure, intimidation ASSERTION and you can verify by noticing when he looks at her for approval and looking off to the right while speaking!

Sick how we were hoodwinked. 99.8 percent recovery rate.

One month after your video on COVID-19,, do you still feel the same? An update would appreciated.

My finnish friends told (years ago) a funny joke about swedish do not even talk to each other I know sweden a lot and i can state that social distance is more common in that culture than many other places And in this situation it helps a lot

You did a very good description! There is a danger of unemployment but the risk of falling sick is the same as it has been all the years before.

Vancouver island canada pretty much the same as Sweden hardly anyone here infected most deaths were old people with compromised health problems . Thanks for the info .

Covid19 deaths Norden Sweden: 3239 Finland: 267 Norway: 219 Danmark: 529 Island: 10

I live in Sweden but have 2 daughters - in London and Johannesburg South Africa - so it's interesting to see different containment policies. I would absolutely love Sweden's policy to work for the very reason that we will hopefully escape the worst of the inevitable economic fallout, which (don't fool yourselves) IS coming. We are a global community. Sweden does not stand alone. In Sweden most of the reason we can operate a self-enforcement social distancing policy is because: 1) Swedish people are generally respectful and considerate of others (unlike in South Africa for example) 2) Some 50% of Swedes live alone, so self-isolation is a permanent state for many and involves few changes for a 'critical mass portion' of the population. 3) the elderly who most need help were already being supported on a spectrum of living situations and services (hem tjänst - home services, etc), so they are able to easily stay out of harms way. The infrastructure for that is 'normal practice'. 4) Sweden's healthcare system is phenomenal and people for the most part just have to call their local clinic & they will get help - often at home in the instance of 'boendestödgrupp'. This all helps to keep the most frail out of harm's way. However, Herd Immunity (whilst I hope it works in Sweden) would be tantamount to genocide or at best a human rights abuse in places such as Africa, any poor communities who have uneducated, undernourished or medically/immune challenged individuals with HIV AIDS, TB, Hepatitis, poor access to fresh water, high density living conditions, high density transport situations in 1st World big cities, etc. My 28 year old, fit daughter got COVID-19 in London - probably commuting on the underground past Canary Wharf which had 1 reported case at the time. She was so ill with the fever that within 3 hours she couldn't have moved to speak let alone call an ambulance. She shot off a WhatsApp to me saying "Mom, I'm scared". I work 24 Hr shifts so only got back to her after that. Now, she is a strapping, strong Viking of a young woman, but at 28 she could very nearly have died within 3 hours of the fever hitting. The fever came and went for 3 weeks. The tiredness from liver damage would knock her out for 6 hours a day. She continued to work at night and held onto her job from sheer force of will. She is better now and running short distances again, but... DO NOT BE FOOLED YOUNG PEOPLE... This is a killer virus. It CAN kill you. You won't necessarily be immune afterwards. Protect the people in the public.... just because you don't feel sick does not mean you aren't infecting other people in shops, on buses, in restaurants, pubs, just walking down the street FOR UP TO 3 DAYS AFTER you just so happened to touch something or cough. ALL THE EVIDENCE shows: - 2m social distancing isn't enough - it hangs around in the air far longer than we think - it is more virulent than we'd like to believe - the after effects are severe and can take months to recover from or leave you PERMANENTLY with weak heart, lungs, liver, etc. Swedes are putting themselves and their whole communities at risk. Just because you have 6 months of winter & it's nice outside is a selfish narcissistic way of thinking just to get together, have a grill, go to a pub, etc. How did you spend Påsk? (Easter) I know many people who had a grill with family and friends and then went on to work in vård & omsorg (health and welfare) the next week. Then we wonder why 2-3 weeks after we get a spike in cases of COVID-19.… NOT COOL, Swedes..... Look after each other, strangers you will never meet included. Thanks

Right now Toronto and Montreal are going back to Zone red ! shutting things down but keeping stuff opened ! I don't understand that, gyms are opened , hair dresser is still opened but closing up shop on some stores . You sure opened my eyes a little bit more about the media and how crazy it's all going around here .

no corruption in sweden. of course not, giving more value to bussiness than human beings is not corruption

I agree with what Sweden did. America should not have shutdown their economy.

I live in Spain, all stores, restaurants, bars, etc are closed except for groceries and pharmacies. Everyone is required to remain at home, not allowed out other than to get food or go to a pharmacy. You can be fined if you go out without a good reason. It's a much tougher lockdown than USA or UK. It started on March 15 so it's been 6 weeks now and will continue until April 25, with likely extension until mid May. In regions of Spain where the infection rate is low, like Canary Islands, they're planning to relax the lockdown after April 25.

the clubs are open?

Greetings from the Philippines! As of the moment, 2.7M are out of work in a country of 100M+. Public transport is in disarray even as the economy starts to reopen. People are dying in the streets not because of the virus, but because of heatstroke, or not being able to get home and not having a job. It is an absolute mess. Meanwhile, politicians are pushing for a draconian new law to silence critics, dissenters, and protesters. You are BLESSED!

I am Iranian American and I have been living in Sweden ,Goteborg for two years, Running smal Vegan/vegetarian Café in Central with my Wife. We are happy here and many thanks to these Couples for telling the truth 🌹

I lol'ed when you said there is no corruption. That was a good one.

In New Zealand we had 100 days covid 19 free, opened borders to citizens only and today have 4 new cases, our Prime Minister is tracing the source and everyone in contact will isolate 14 days, so here the lockdown worked perfectly , only the opening of borders that messed it up, but i believe we have to go through with the virus to get antibodies., we really have a wonderful Prime Minister.

How is it today? what are the Sweden Virologist saying vs Sweden Politicians?

I extremely grateful that Sweden is doing this - this is the only way we’re going to get real data.

"Because there's no corruption in our government...". Oh to be young and naive!

Guys you are obviously lovely people but still young. I'm 48 so in the middle age and my mother is 76 and I'm caring for her. So you can imagine I'm quite worried about the virus. I from the start realised that age has a lot to do with the opinions of people towards the virus.

As a 70-year-old, I rather resent young beautiful people talking as if my life is less worthy then theirs.