Oh I know I feel bad because the first part of this video is such lazy KZfaq content but the AA bit is actually interesting. I love how I really didn't find it funny when I read it at home, and when doing it on camera the generator thing just killed me.

EVs emperors new clothing 😏

Except all this celeb balderdash is not coming true. Even someone as sensationalist as Matt Watson and team has driven dozens of EVs to the very last energy and the experience of such drivers is well documented ... didn't need to ask AA for that. You are looking at (usually) 10 to 15 miles of usable range from the car ... sometimes at lower power ... at less than (reported) 0% battery. EV manufacturers are not idiots. Contrast this with the experience of running out of fuel on the motorway in an ICE cat where it stops dead in whatever lane it is in. In seconds. Such a failure of the power tain in an ICE car is way more disruptive and way more dangerous to other road users.

My advice is don't get one. We got one through work, it's a piece of utter junk. Build quality, and range. Please, don't follow our steps. Internal combustion are 100x better.

@@blueband8114 Build quality, maybe. Range - no ... the range on my car is 200 miles every single day for 30 seconds *of my time* charging it up - ICE doesn't have a hope in heck of that. As regards "100x" better ... well, if that were true then the likes of Top Gear, 5th Gear, and endless other commentators globally would be having a field day (and sales would suck - which they don't). And 100x better because they are quicker? No. Safer? No. Have greater function? No. Faster (in any materially relevant sense for the majority of use cases)? No. And they are not 100x times cheaper (if at all). Or more convenient (and for those with a driveway ICE is way *less* convenient). So ... where do you get your "100x" from? Ah yes, sorry - I forgot - you like having to service it every single year. That makes them 100x times gbetter. Yes ... definitely .. ah nmo .. wait. It doesn't either.

Why?

@@bowsh1238 Aren't EV's meant to be green and save the planet? How is it 'Saving the planet' when fossil fuels have to be used to bail out that motorist? (Using electricity ain't that green either when the wind stops blowing and the sun ain't shining!)

@@rachelsmith8023 I didn't buy a EV because it was green, most others I know didn't. I bought it because it's cheaper to run, much faster, quieter and just more convenient. So yeah if someone drives a diesel van to help someone that breakdown up I don't particularly care

@@bowsh1238 Put your head back in the sand.

@@rosewhite--- maybe try driving one and you'll know ICE cars are just old fashioned to drive in comparison 😉

But that isn't an EV failing. It is simply a reflection of where we currently are with charging infrastructure. How easy and straightforward do you suppose it was to get petrol just 10 years or so after the motor car first appeared. The petrol station infrastructure wasn't exactly brilliant then either. Everything starts somewhere. This is where we are 10 years in.

@@Brian-om2hh But where will we be in 6 years and 10 months time Brian, because then all new cars will have to be EV's. Will the infrastructure be in place by then ?, and will it be reliable, or will we all be saying that our EV's are great, but we can't charge them, but that's ok. By the way in the early day's of the motor car, petrol engines weren't mandated hy the government of the day, so your comparison is ludicrous, because anyone who bought a car in those days knew that they were early adopter's, and knew what they were getting into voluntarily.

@@Brian-om2hh regardless of whether the vehicle failed or the infrastructure for the ev, you are still not going anywhere.

@@paulhillman400 Your problem there is the government, not the technology. The necessary infrastructure has been rolled out in Norway over approx that timescale, and we have 1.5x the land area of the UK and 1/12th the population. in 2016 we had 500 "fast" chargers (all 50kW or less), now we have 5600 (50-300kW). I think we've stopped bothering to count the slow chargers, cos they are everywhere. This was done with appropriate incentives to the network installers alongside a rapid (and incentivised) increase in EV sales to use them. I agree that with the current government this won't happen in the UK though. I agree that the comparison with the horse to car transition is stupid. It annoys me every time i see it cos it is flawed in almost every way.

@@15bit62 I think you will find the basic problem is running out of charge in the UK being an obvious disincentive to potential EV purchases here! Yes you are lucky to live in Norway which is leading the world in terms of percentages of EV's etc. This is the reason you can be so smug living in Norway: What is the energy production mix in Norway? The vast majority of electricity produced in Norway comes from hydro power. In 2021, hydro accounted for 91.5 percent of electricity output in the Nordic country. Wind power contributed another 7.5 percent to Norway's electricity mix.15 Dec 2022 Most countries simply lack the geographical attributes to even dream of that much hydro power! If we were discussing hot springs and geothermal power, then you would be at the back of the class looking at Iceland with envy! It's purely luck that Norway has the terrain to enable such things!

It will also be interesting to hear how sales of these "old fashioned" vehicles do once we see mass ULEZ charging schemes almost everywhere...... These could easily add a further £30 to £80+ per week onto the running cost of an ICE vehicle.

​@@mikebreen2890Then go to a car auction.

@@Brian-om2hh Most petrol car from around 2003 onwards qualify for ULEZ it’s only the old diesels that don’t. So most will be just fine!

@@mikebreen2890 Flapping lips is not enough?

When vehicles over a certain age are exempt from ULEZ and are much cheaper to buy and maintain than EVs and have a virtually guaranteed mileage range It is a no brainer especially when the depreciation is negligible compared to that of the EVs! plus insurance is greatly reduce too!

You may as well hope and pray that oil never runs dry, because one day it will......

they will for a bimbo celebrity.

Insurance companies might be the ones to kill off EV's, because of the risk to cost analysis.

Like the oil used to make EVs?@@Brian-om2hh

@@Brian-om2hhnope, not in our lifetime mate

Wondered what they did on arrival. Guess we still need fossil fuels!

Did you see the charging stations at Glastonbury festival last year? Fleets of diesel generators for the "green" EVs 🤣

@@terminal-velocity111 Al Gore at Davos said fossil fuels are boiling the oceans! Must be true then. That will save cooking the fish! 😊 Al fuels his private jet on virtue tho, so all good there.

Does your hazard lights still work?

@@BMike66 They will because they run off the 12V battery, which is charged by the high voltage traction battery.

Frankly I don't believe you. Having the heating on in my EV costs me around 5% range over a 150+ mile journey.

@@Brian-om2hh why don’t you believe him? He never stated the range of the car without the heater running.

@@gerrym4377 True and what a pity that the ICE is so inefficient that the boast here is to find some use for otherwise wasted energy.

How about if you travel by night and need to use your lights. Will that drain battery?

My diesel van, even when its loaded for a days work will do 800 miles without an issue

I bet it doesn't slow down at all when the tank gets less than 1/4 full either...

@@mikebreen2890 As a driver of one - you are mistaken. On the other hand, mine is actually efficient and uses the full battery capacity. It's not limited either in the sense that all of the commercial EVs are. Batteries drain, and as the full voltage drops off, so too does your top speed, torque, power, everything is actually waning. Fancy capacitor and transistor banks are used to give you the impression that it isn't, but that's a great indication that you were never using 100 percent of the available power at any time. Nor does mine simply stop when the charge reaches 70 percent, I can still squeeze several good miles out of them at a reduced speed. A consumer EV actually cuts you off dead on the road when it could limp you home. Anyway I'd suggest electrical engineering and logic classes, between the two you'd learn some things you don't know.

"A consumer EV actually cuts you off dead on the road when it could limp you home". kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aaqHd5SYv7iVco0.html

What absolute cobblers! Once the battery pack begins to lose efficiency - usually after 10+ years - it can be refurbished. This costs just a fraction of the price of replacing the whole battery pack. Try watching the KZfaq video of the UK owner of a 10 year old Nissan Leaf. He took his car to Cleveleys Electric Vehicles in Gloucestershire, for a battery pack refurbishment. The work took 4 hours, and the cost was £500. Cleveleys posted a video of the refurb on KZfaq, specifically so that those uninformed individuals, who felt that you *had* to buy a new battery costing thousands, could end up better informed.....

I have every confidence EV's *will* end up being used en masse, as new ICE cars will no longer be obtainable after the end of 2029. ICE cars will have their limitations when oil runs dry.

I don't think they care about that actually, as long as they don't get stuck. I fear they will double down. Reason EVs don't work is because we haven't spent enough!

Reason they won’t be used en masse is at he moment they’re paying me not to run my washing machine to save electricity. How are we going to charge them ?

I think the idea is to get people out of their ice cars, and if no viable alternative that will be their goal achieved

Come visit Norway - i think you will be disappointed. Last year 79% of new cars were full EV, and we're now up to 21% of all registered passenger cars on the road being full EV. There might be limitations, but widespread electrification is far from impossible.

Indeed

You watch far too much TV like The Jetsons 🤣 and because of that you talk out of your arse.

I hope you are being sarcastic.

WORLD WIDE REVOLUTIONS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THEM

They love their servitude, unfortunately.

Kettles are not a problem for the UK grid, The grid is designed to cover this.

Yes "The Grid" runs flat out all the time..just in case everyone puts the kettle on at the same time...Think about that..!

That’s a myth, I live in the U.K. and our electricity never goes off. Ever.

That used to happen all the time when we only had three tv channels. Everyone was making a cup of tea in the as breaks. Power surges always happened then. Nowadays we all do stuff all over the place.

Makes you wonder where all that electric trickery come from..Eh Catweazle?

One reason I drive an old car. 🤣

I couldn't agree with you more. Best car I ever had in terms of reliability was a 1967 for Anglia, and as soon as I can find one that hasn't rusted away, I'm buying it.

One issue with a lot of new cars is in an effort to save weight they do not have a spare tire. Most of the newer cars I tow are either no starts or just quit while driving. Last weekend I was dispatched to tow a brand new Chevrolet Silverado he had bought the day before. It was extremely cold and I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out how to get it in neutral as they now have an electronic shifter. There is no override. There is "car wash mode" where it can be left in neutral not running but has to be running to initially be put in neutral. I was about to drag it on my truck in park and it finally started. Some manufacturers put ways to disengage park when it's dead, but lots do not. It's quite infuriating

He's indeed right. My 2005 Toyota Rav4 is at 181k, still no issues with it & it only needs maintenance once yearly.

My 2011 Taurus works perfectly. It will be my last car.

Because global warming rules init!

Too true! And while the AA/RAC are attending a flat EV, there’s some other poor sod stuck in a live lane on a “smart motorway” waiting to get wiped out by some twat on their mobile phone.

Because its in the membership agreement.

Because it often isn’t negligence. It’s just bad fortune. I had a situation where I got to a road closure in SW Scotland due to flooding. The diversion was 100 miles and I only had 23% charge. I found my chargers, but it could have been much worse. Chargers often don’t work, or are fully occupied. No one ever sets out on a journey knowing that they won’t complete it. If I didn’t have enough charge it wouldn’t be in the middle of the road, but more likely it would be at a broken charger knowing I couldn’t make it to the next charger.

What? What breakdown companies?

Which EV's have you owned, which you felt were shite? Is your opinion based on actual ownership experience, or is it just a knee jerk reaction, based on nothing?

@@Brian-om2hh I would rather lose a leg than go through the anxiety of driving an Ev. Where should I start, I am in Italy at present on a 10,000km trip how much time would I spend getting refuled? In the services there were 2 cars queuing and the summer is not even here and there are not tbat many idiot owners yet. At the same services there were 5 cars queuing for 65c LPG all fuelled up and gone in 5 minutes, with the option of petrol, these are smart people. CO2 is not killing the planet quite the contrary, listen to Dr. Patrick Moore founder of Greenpeace, rather than fools like Al Gore and child actors Greta Thunberg.

​@@Brian-om2hhProbably the latter

Bloody hell mate that's shite

Love the "bastard" you are a northerner 🤣👍

EVs are not for everyone, You prove it, EVs are not for stupid people.

No car suits Stupid people . Careful crossing the road

oh that was funny ! bastard thing expired completely! whats a tortoise mode? you get a turtle to pull you ?

Agreed, but I believe Tesla did an over wifi update of there software when this issue became apparent. They had not expected the car to be unused for so long. Do ICE car have similar issues when not run for a while?

Absolutely, when I phone them I am always as specific as I can be and tell them exactly what I need, and even then it doesn't always work out!

@@GeoffBuysCars I'm the same as yourself, give all the available information up front. That's what really annoyed me. I trained as a mechanic, I knew what I was saying. If it wasn't 2am I would of called my work colleague to get the beast from yard to get me home. Would of saved me 4 hours of my life 😭 Brilliant video, as normal sir 👍

@@GeoffBuysCars I worked for the AA as a patrol & recovery driver some years ago as a stop-gap job after returning from an overseas contract. As a qualified vehicle technician, I was surprised to find out that I was one of just a handful. You could be a butcher, baker, candlestick maker & after two weeks training, you were let loose to go and ply your trade, or lack of it. Also, it was normal practice (& seems to still be the case) where they will always send a man in a van first. One job I remember attending was where the propshaft (rear-wheel drive) had come adrift at one end, thrashed around destroying various vital components on the underside of the car. The driver told me that he had explained this to the call centre over the phone, then I turned up, in a van. Life's a bitch, then you die🙃

Been there done that with a failed clutch on a hire car. In the end I drove it 14 miles, through Wolverhampton and to my parents in Shropshire... Clutchless. Then phoned AA to give them the new location of the car to pick up.

@@djtaylorutube 🤣🤣🤣

Same here Richard !

The fabulous elopement chariot for you and the lovely Julia 🚙⛽👩‍🦲👰🏻‍♀️💐🥳🎉🎊🥂🍾 Not that I'm dropping hints or making suggestions... far be it from me...!!!

I'm 245000 miles and hoping for 250000 more

please apologise to all the people who now have cancer due to diesel engines.

@@robgraham9234 please apologise to all the people who have lost braincells reading your uninformed nonsense.Fool.

Funny.

😂😂😂

Ironically, AAA is actually a major roadside assistance company in the US. However, the joke was spot on, lol.

Well what make and model?

LOL ... the sheer number of bald faced lies regarding these lemons ... kind of reminds me of the CDC and viruses.

@@12alocin The Unicorn

Why did you take the car to get new tyres when the existing were "well legal"?

Then he seriously needs to learn how to interpret the higher amount of information available to him. Either that, or he's not too smart. It's literally all there, laid out for him.

@@djtaylorutube Most people that drive... Drive the thing from A to B. They dont faff with the electronic info crud after the novelty value wears off. Its the same with ICE cars that have electronic crud in them.

@@sahhull My wife can manage it, I'm pretty sure she's in the category of "most people". I'll go and check...

@@djtaylorutube why is it when someone is just telling it as it is about the experience he is having with his EV that people like you have to suggest that he lacks intelligence, actually he is an engineer and intelligent enough to be able to afford one of these high priced vehicles 🤔🤔

AAAaaahhh, the converted greenie. Lovely to see him suffer just like the people he deprive of electricity in Africa, and the child labor used to mine the cobalt in Congo due to his suffragenicity for the "environment".

Try riding a horse down the M6 and see what happens. They banned it, but it was so long ago, we didn't notice.

What have local councils got to do with this? Try withholding your Council Tax and see how quickly you will end up in court, then let your possessions be taken by the bailiffs.

i will 2 diesel cars a petrol and motor bike..see me out..

@@TheLongonot62 the bbc said that regarding the tv licence now fast forward a few years there’s millions that don’t pay this silly licence tax ( including me ) , I’m afraid the council tax will probably be the next one the way the country’s going, just saying 😎

The first EV was around 1900. Quickly they didn't work. Now over 100 years there is pressure to go electric. If EVs were better than ICE vehicles manufacturers would of been building them back then. No it's a scam made up by politicians jumping on the climate change theory. To stop this vote anybody who says it's baloney

That's not how it works. Imagine if everyone had a petrol pump at their home...

@@djtaylorutube 50% of UK car owners dont have a driveway or designated parking place. They park in the street... With a bit of luck they even manage to park in the same street as the one the live in... Tho mostly they cant rely on that

@@djtaylorutube No it's much much worse, because a 5 minute 'recharge' of a diesel car gives 600+ miles of range and a half hour EV recharge gives a third of that range at best so that means that 90 times more chargers are needed than the current amount of diesel pumps, just to match the status quo with IC cars. Good luck recharging at home when you live on the eleventh floor of an apartment block or similar.

Most charging will be at home in a driveway, at residential charging posts and lampposts on street or in charge point equipped residential car parks. You won't have droves of people visiting a charging station every time they need a charge as people will only do that when on a journey longer than the range of their vehicle. Your car will charge when you are not using it, at home or at destination, like shopping centre or other activity.

@@sahhull I understand that, more work is required there without a doubt. Other countries are getting there, I don't hold so much hope for the UK which is only run by criminally corrupt, self serving, short term, no strategy individuals. China, with all its built up population, is a decade ahead of anyone.

That will be the same nut that bought it.

yes, they bought one.

That’s believable. The cars aren’t the problem, it’s the owners.

The knobs are the most common problem with EVs, according to a guy i know who works for green flag, unfortunately the knob isn't covered on the breakdown policy, second time the knob fails he will incur a fee.

So same as ICE cars really?

A curious thing - i have an EV and i have no problem doing all of the above (except filling up with petrol obviously). I drove from central Norway to central england in 3 days in July, via stockholm. More than 3000km in total, with no problems at all. Well one problem - eurotunnel was delayed 2.5 hours. Charging during the driving legs was as simple as driving up to one of many many fast charging stations and plugging the car in and waiting 25 mins (well actually going for a pee, buying a sandwich, walking the dog for 10 mins and ramming a sandwich down my throat cos the car had finished charging already). Charging in the evening involved the incredibly time-consuming task of parking the car next to the charger at the hotel and plugging it in. It might be that i am uniquely touched by god, but since i know plenty of EV owners who happily take their families from Norway to Swizerland, France, Spain, Germany etc. on vacation, i don't think i am special in any way. Honestly, they aren't some sort of unusable garbage forced upon you by a bunch of hippy halfwits. EVs are totally usable everyday cars. All you have to do is dare to think slightly differently about how you use your car and treat "refuelling" as something that can be done whilst doing other things and not a specific act in itself. Mine even allows me to leave the dog inside for an hour or two with the aircon running and a clear message on the screen telling passersby what the cabin temperature is. Plus it gets to 140mph down the autobahn in no time at all.

A generator won't do you much good I'm afraid. You'd need a generator the size of a shed to get the current you'd usefully need to charge an EV. Electric car owner here..... And all newly installed chargers (at least those installed in the last 18 months or so) must have a contactless payment facility by law. so no apps needed.

@@Brian-om2hh they are still very much a backward step at the present moment. Friend of mine has a Model S Tesla. He wasn’t confident enough to drive 100 odd miles to the coast for a weekend break, and get back home. So he didn’t go. Paid north of £45k for this second hand as well. Currently lack of infrastructure, and way too expensive compared to diesel / petrol.

@@15bit62 Wow ! what a story ! 😂

@@markstarmer3677 Cool story but I call bullshit. Had no problem doing "just" 176 miles each way last weekend. Tesla has the best route planning software that incorporates superchargers effortlessly. Any Tesla driver knows this and can easily see that 100 miles is simply not a problem. The car would plan in charging stops and can see live availability of charger stalls, along with real time consumption data to show plan versus actual. It's all rather trivial to be honest. Maybe your neighbour is absolutely clueless but that's not a fault of the car which is completely capable of what was asked. Way cheaper than petrol or diesel too. Sorry to spoil the narrative.

Not an EV problem AA not moving fast enough with the times , and by the way if cars were limited by size weight most of the chelsea tractors would be off the road THANK GOD

The majority of EVs sold in Britain today are significantly lighter than an S Class and a lot smaller. And the 2.2t bmws and merc EVs will continue to be shrink as a proportion of EVs on the road.

My Kia EV weighs less than a Range Rover or most other SUV's or 4 x4's. A Tesla Model 3SR weighs less than a BMW 5 Series estate car. Try again.....

Yes,but net zero is about 7 years away,so where is all this energy coming from,and at what cost and hassles,cause when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow,mostly at night,and everybody plugs in everything for heating,for cooking,media,their cars,and when the power goes off and trips your overload through the day and your fridge or freezer doesn't restart,this is total lunacy,and then there are the flats,condos,high rise hotels where the wiring is not designed for charging electric cars,I say the sooner we see the lunacy of this agenda ,the sooner we get back to practicality and what works,and has done for 100 years,there is no climate emergency,more a pseudo religion by fanatics and billionaires,the WEF,the WHO,NATO,the UN,and when all else fails,they take you to war,and I think nuclear weapons will definitely impact the climate,just saying!

I know where the charger power comes from. 80% likely to be generated at a conventional power station burning gas or oil. EVs use a lot of fossil fuel, particularly the posh high power ones.

Do not believe you.

Expand on why ?​@@BioniqBob

Nice to see someone acknowledge there is a place for EVs. I have been driving an EV for 7 years and it suits my needs. I don’t tell everyone They should change as they are not the best solution for everyone. I don’t do many long journeys so rarely need to use public chargers. Typical range on my car is 280 miles but have managed over 300. A lot is down to the way you drive and the type of journeys. I don’t go through tyres any quicker than before I went electric, because I am not flooring it and using all that torque. People need to consider what they are buying and understand to pros and cons of the vehicles before making a decision. Do we need to ban petrol and diesel, NO.

Two to three times the weight? Are you sure? Compare like cars, say the Tesla model 3 Vs BMW 4 series. Is the Tesla really that much heavier

Er Mark. My Kia eNiro weighs less than a Range Rover. A Tesla Model 3SR weighs less than a BMW 5 Series estate car. Do a bit of research before you post mate......

@@Brian-om2hh I don't think he wants facts to get in the way of a good story though 😂

@@stephenclutton 50% heavier, on average, than an equal size Ice car.

@@Brian-om2hh The Tesla has 23 cu feet of cargo volume (incl passengers) while the Estate car has nearly 70 cu feet of cargo volume. Try to keep comparisons to like-capabilities ... and you will find that ICE blows away all electric competition.

It appears to affect ICE drivers more than EV drivers for some inexplicable reason. I have never felt range anxiety, and my EV only does 110 miles on a charge. But I know it’s limitations. I haven’t heard from some geezer on YT.

@@oneeyedgirl617 Lucky girl, but with only one eye, should you be driving at all?.....

@@barriewilliams4526 luck not involved. Done my research. Not on here, obviously.

@@oneeyedgirl617 Of course you have. Bye, oh & good luck x

@@oneeyedgirl617 depends on how you use your car. In Australia, most people rarely drive long distances, for them an EV might be perfect. But some people do drive long distances. I regularly drive 800+km to visit family. My diesel car does this easily on a tank. I have family who live much further away too. 1200 km, and I can still drive that far without having to refuel. For me, an EV simply wouldn't work. I'd be having to do overnight stops on these trips.

Cheat !! 😂

You Kent.

Did exactly the same thing with a diesel Passat in the 80’s!

you won't get your alternator replaced by breakdown companies these days, mind you with the book time on some cars being 6hours plus who can blame them.

An ev will be quite happy in a traffic jam for a good few days with the heating on. 😊

@@rob2738 massively depends on the car and if it has a heat pump or not

Just get a diesel generator on a trailer. Doesn't costs so much. Ideally, every EV should get one, for unlimited range!

Why might an EV run out of "juice" in a snow storm? An EV has a battery large enough to run a HOUSE for 3 or 4 days! Heating 2 cubic metres of space inside a car isn't going to cause any issues. An EV uses very little battery power when stationary. You people have some weird perceptions regarding electric cars.....

@@altern8tive let’s hope your never stupid enough to get caught in a flash snow storm as the UK is never equipped to deal with extremes of weather at the best of times and I got caught in a flash snow storm coming back at night which almost stopped me in my tracks driving a four wheel drive car - all be it a high powered impractical vehicle. The blizzard came out of nowhere and the road was under several inches of snow in minutes. It’s happened before on UK roads in the last decade or so and all the drivers were evacuated off the A38 at Kenford and I’m sure a lot of them expected they could deal with the conditions.

There was a Tesla on the side of the road in Coventry last week, hooked up to a Fiat 500 over two days, I thought it was charging the Fiat battery - two days later off went the Tesla on the back of a low loader...I now assume the Fiat was trying to charge the 12v in the Tesla...

Dont think you understand the concept of an EV if i was at standstill in my EV It would have to be a few days before i saw any difference .

Like watching your electric meter not moving when your not using any power at home you mean? I think we need to explain something to you, if you don't switch a light on, it doesn't use power. If an EV is standing still, even with someone in the driving seat, its using little to no power. I say little because they may want the radio on or something, but even air con will last a day or more. And sometimes they don't use power when moving forward either, like when going down hill or when braking. Hope this helps?

A little youtube watching or even sitting in an even for more than 100m will show you just exactly how wrong that "imagine" scenario is. The levels if data on the energy used at all times in EV will make it obvious how that imaginary world is just silly.

@@eddiereed5025 Can you say the same when it is -10 degrees outside?

@@aidanapword @Steve Matthews @ Eddie Reed I sat in standstill traffic on the M6 in the middle of the night in my classic mini and after about 10 minutes of not moving the Tesla next to me was forced to turn off their lights and no doubt their heater. This was a couple of weeks ago during winter in the UK so don’t try and tell me that Tesla owners don’t experience squeaky bum time every time they get stopped unexpectedly and we all know that to get the most mileage they practically have to turn everything off. Face facts electric cars are dog poo.

Send me some more info nick and if you’re only in blackheath maybe I can test drive it. Geoffbuyscars@gmail.com

a ev renault??? thats nothing short of masochistic who were you in a previous life?? stalin?

for the 13500 EUR the battery costs, you can buy a brand new car with even more range and faster "charging time".

The 'NEW DEAL' meaning much higher costs and profites for the company?

But if you do that, the tiny Swedish elf puppet actress will flood the whole world with her tears…?👀🧐😎😜🙄🐑😁🙈 Peace

No, no, no, no, no. We don't need to plant trees. We just buy carbon credits.😉😉

When those trees die and decompose, what happens?

Your all falling for this climate change BS it's the elitists crafty way of making money ? And a great way to keep drivers in danger ,so then they can stop us gadding about , it's a form of control and people can't see the agenda !keep buying electric to help them to control you ,nothing wrong with this planet nothing lies !?

@@Richard482 I make furniture out of them, and burn the scrap. Simple.

My Kia EV weighs less than a Range Rover, and most other SUV's and 4 x 4's. A Tesla Model 3SR weighs less than a BMW 5 Series estate car. Why hasn't the weight of loaded trucks and vans ever been an issue for you previously?

Most infrastructure damage is caused by HGV’s. But in the future if nearly every car weighs on average say .5 ton more than an ICE car then it will have a negative impact on bridges and roads.

@Brian-om2hh it does. A friend of mine worked designing roads and had some interesting information about the process. Don't forget speed limits for wet/dry are based on surface traction. Most HGV etc are not run at very high speeds, a car however, is. The extra weight will affect how well it grips at speed and in various conditions so that may impact even speedlimits

What would happen if 20 million people filled up with petrol all at once? Petrol would run out, that's what. Not everyone needs to fill up every day. This is the bit you non EV owners don't get. I only need to charge my EV every 8 to 9 days. And don't forget that if 20 million people had electric cars, there would be *much* more spare capacity in the grid, because the UK's oil refineries would no longer be producing as much petrol and diesel. If 20 million people have EV's, they're not still going to keep buying petrol and diesel are they? So there would be no need to produce as much......

We currently pay Scottish windfarms around half a billion pounds to NOT produce at night. It's not the problem you think it is.

The demand on the grid in 2022 was less than in 2016. Fact. Charging an EV at home uses 7kW. What else uses 7kW? oh yes, an electric shower. So does anyone worry that 20 million people are going to have a shower at the same time? No.

@@Nick_Smith1970 What if they all have a five hour shower ? would that affect the calculation ?

@@Fanakapan222 The reality is, everyone plugs in at different times, thus spreading out the peak in consumption. If we all plugged in at exactly 6pm, it might be a problem. But if I plug in at 6pm, and you plug in at 6:10pm, then the "spike" in the grid is evened out a bit. Eventually, with smart metres and smart chargers, the grid can automate charging times in order to suit it's requirements and demands, and ensuring that we all have a full charge by the morning. So instead of me having a 4 hour charge, the grid may decide to give me 4 x 1 hour charges spread over the night time for example. The end result for me is the same, but the grid has managed the load better.

Sheer fcking madness.

Hydrocarbon fueled forklifts spew waste products that you don't want settling on products like fruit and vegetables or other sensitive things and they are very noisy compared to electrics.... just 2 reasons right there.

@bkeepr it's a building site not a fruit & veg shop & uses five times more diesel to charge it for the weeks work , that not only crazy it's stupid & very expensive.

Electric forklifts are more common than diesel ones - they are used indoors where exhaust fumes would be dangerous

I get the reason for using them in doors, I've used them myself but on a building site where they have no power supply (yet) to use it & then use 4-5 times as much diesel to charge it up is not only stupid but totally incompetent.

So now you just need to produce the stats on all those screen failures to compete the credibility... Incidentally, the car still drives, the voice control still works, indicators work, horn works, lights work etc. In fact you can soft reboot the screen while driving.

@@djtaylorutube Tesla screens leak the lcd fluid and the screen fails. Tesla know about the issue yet they just put another screen in... Not sure what happens when the warrenty expires. The same with the door handles

@@sahhull I'll put a drip tray underneath to catch the liquid. Thanks for the tip 😉

Another misinformed loony

No you don't

That's issue, in ICE when u car told u have 160miles that's mean if u park your car now, gets to -10°C u return to car and still can make 160miles. U remember what level is in your tank. U can park for months (and if u have working 12V battery) return to car and start like nothing happened.

daughter's i10 sailed through mot needing nothing! hyundai make nice cars.

@@rosewhite--- pleased your daughter is enjoying her car.

Me going 60 mile journey in winter by diesel -warm as toast and no worries. (No african child labourers hurt in my oil drilling either) You going 59 miles in winter by EV - Thick coat and woolly hat and range anxiety. Cobalt, anyone !

U forgot, if your car have "foam" repair kit you should replace it every 3 years (in VAG group) also TPMS should be mandatory if u wanna sell cars with foam kit.

Yes, but the tyres cost more on them EV's. Oh and them EV's cost twice the price of Ice cars, 👍

@@madb132 Yes the tyres cost more, never said otherwise. However while an EV costs more up front the TCO for an EV is actually less than an ICE Car. According to Direct Line. On average, based on purchase price and ownership costs over 14 years, an EV would cost £3,752 a year over the course of its life, compared to £3,858 for an ICE car. Yes, before you say it, yes the batteries will last 14 years if not longer, although they are warranted for between 7 & 10 years depending on manufacturer

@@madb132 Er, no they don't..... You can buy a brand new EV for exactly the same price as a new petrol Astra, Focus or Golf.....

The height of ignorance is depending on another lithium battery to save one that is flat. ARE PEOPLE UNABLE TO REASON THIS OUT? Use a different fuel to save one of these shitty EVs, unless you want your breakdown van to die as well, halfway through the task. When a manufacturer tells you to use low-resistant tires (low-friction tires) you should walk out the door and never return. Tires work on FRICTION alone.

​@@barneyrubble1964would a EV battery last 14 years.??

I would not worry about that as the fumes will get you before any fire

Best you dont drive a petrol car either then, I was told that is flammable

Fire risk in an ICE car is many multiples (possibly) an order of magnitude higher (measured per mile driven). This is well documented, data and logic supported, fact. And cabin or fuel-system fires rip through the vehicle far faster than any battery fire would.

if you decide to drive properly + not crash, no worries, simples....

Fire risk in an EV is 250 times less than in an ICE vehicle.

@@mikebreen2890 So you were at the Tow Show then? Do you work in vehicle recovery?

@@mikebreen2890 If an ICE car runs out of fuel, it can usually just be refuelled and on its way...possibly may need the injection bled. If an EV rans out of charge, it cannot be quickly refuelled on the spot, or even pushed out of the way. It's either a wheels-up tow, or recovery with a crane lorry. Did you know that EVs have a higher failure rate at first MoT than ICE cars? Source: Motor Trends. Don't tell me you've bought an EV...

True! No clutch to fail in an EV. You can tow though (depending on model, just like with ICE) so not sure what your saying can't be done?

@@djtaylorutube You would have a massively reduced range if you were to tow with an EV You can't tow EVs easily either, due to them locking up the driven wheels when they don't have power, and they are considerably heavier than Petrol/Diesels.

@@ryanwilliams6526 Yes range is reduced but that's different from "can't do it". As to towing an EV, the wheels don't lock up. Suggest you do a quick KZfaq search on "tow charging". I'm being specific here, with an EV normally powered on, it can be tow charged, it doesn't know the difference between that and going down a hill doing regenerative braking. Tow car mpg sucks balls though. :)

How much did you sell it for?

@@Deploracle Cost at purchase £82K, value 4 years later with 50K miles .......................£23K

@@darrellbaldwin6226 My knowledge of car repairs is extremely limited. But if door locks and control electrics don't work, I would guess 12 volt battery.

First thing I did after purchasing my last car was to purchase a space saver wheel!

Not a true ev, however there are many ice vehicles that dont have spare wheels car companies saving money .

@@eddiereed5025 The bain of my hubby's life 'wheel change no spare!' The eco nuts wanted them removed from the cars to save the planet. Doesn't save a person's life when they are stuck on the side of the motorway in danger with a can of squirty stuff and a knackered tyre. Many a car salesman has told a customer to leave the locking wheel nut at home to keep it safe too. Very helpful.

What about the repair kit that comes with them? They all have a compressor and a tin of gunk, unles they are on Run Flat tyres.

@@Nick_Smith1970 No spare wheel, repair kit or run flats included.

A Corsa broke down at the junction leading to our village it was stuck across the junction blocking the oncoming traffic, luckily it's not a busy road but it is unlit & volunteers with hi-vis jackets directed traffic around it until it was taken away 5 hrs later at around 9pm. Now that situation has put me right off EVs.

But you will, in another 25 to 30 years.... But before then, you'll find petrol and diesel increasingly more difficult to find, probably beginning in another 10+ years.

@@Brian-om2hh I think it was sarcasm Brian ;) if it wasn't, then my sarcasm detector failed and I thumbed up the wrong comment. ;)

But you will within the next 25 years. Some of it could be gone before then. Shell recently stated in their latest business report that they plan to cut production of petrol and diesel by 40% on the lead up to 2030...... Shell were one of the organisations who lobbied the UK Government to bring *forward* the ban on the sale of new ICE cars and vans to 2030, from the original date of 2035... The National Grid were another organisation who also lobbied for the ban to be brought forward.

@@Brian-om2hh In the UK most pubs and petrol stations are struggling as it is. I forecast that petrol stations will close increasing fast. Largely depends on Tesla getting to mass market prices.

I trued AA once. I wouldn’t trust them with my car, they were all alcoholics.

I used to use the AA for years. I now use a different breakdown company, who charge around half the cost of the AA, and are recommended by Which.......

Tesla has to be put in ‘Jack Mode’ to even lift it or you risk blowing the suspension strut 😂

Mine has no jack, and no spare wheel either. Nothing new there. My cars have been like that for the last 10 years. Just a compressor and a tin of gunk. No need to jack the car up.

@Retired Bore Don't get me wrong. I would love a jack and a full size spare like we used to have.