The Truth About Fred Astaire And Ginger Rogers Working Together

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A jealous wife armed with pointy things and a pair of bloody feet. What was fueling Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers' relationship?
#FredAstaire #OldHollywood #Musicals
At first, Rogers was underwhelmed | 0:00
They had one date | 0:50
Astaire was a reluctant partner | 1:55
Astaire was the better dancer | 2:59
He made her work hard | 3:38
They made ten movies together | 4:43
Astaire criticized her costumes | 5:43
Astaire's wife was jealous | 6:44
Rogers felt overshadowed | 7:34
They made each other better | 8:35
They actually got along well | 9:25
They transformed each other | 10:05
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@GrungeHQ Жыл бұрын

What did you think of their onscreen chemistry?

@thetoastedhippies1997 Жыл бұрын

I just love them! My all-time favorites!

@cwilson6990 Жыл бұрын

I've Always Loved Ginger & Astaire Still watch Thier Movies never get old 🙂

@gem3506 Жыл бұрын

I have no opinion if they did or didn't have chemistry off stage. I never thought to read more about it. I just loved watching them dance together. I just can't imagine see 2 young excellent dancers with the passion they had for it, had no chemistry on or off the screen. They left us with such beautiful dancing for a life time 💞

@NellieKAdaba Жыл бұрын

Nice, great chemistry.

@maryk3458 Жыл бұрын

@@gem3506 the age differnce seemed too much for real life.

@Cward303 Жыл бұрын

She is so underrated!! Not only could she dance, her acting was phenomenal and her comedic timing was unmatched and used by Lucille Ball in I Love Lucy and Ginger’s mom, Leele, helped Lucy as much as she did with all the RKO stars! I always say, Ginger and Fred! I can’t take my eyes off her when the two are dancing!! What a woman!! Thank you for this video! And her singing wasn’t the best, but it was full of personality and got better as she practiced!

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

How is she underrated??? She won an OSCAR!!

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

You're very confused. She was a HUGE star in her day. Get a clue.

@Cward303 Жыл бұрын

@@meghanmisaliar hey stupid, there’s a whole psychology term called, The Ginger Rogers Syndrome” look it up. And slap yourself in the mouth next time you think of commenting to me.

@WillN2Go1 7 ай бұрын

Great video. It's amazing that after 90 years they're still making people happy with their dancing, acting and movies. I can never get enough of Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers, can't imagine one without the other in their movies together.

@iloveejbgssnoopy Жыл бұрын

Ginger Rogers strong lady and so amazing and proud of her. She really inspired all women. They had magic on screen.

@carolcaruso6641 Жыл бұрын

Even as a kid, along time ago, there was something about the way they related in their movies that I noticed. They dated more than once, in New York, Fred says so in his autobiography. I think his wife didnt want him kissing Ginger in particular, because of their past. He did kiss other women in his movies just not her. I can't imagine all the time they spent close in rehearsals without forming some kind of bond, Ginger was so dazzling and full of life. Fred seemed to love his wife and his home life, his family. Ginger was so very devoted to her career but still, when you see him interact with her as opposed to the other women he performed with, it's a whole other thing. They and those they associated with were too classy to tell all. A fun mystery to unravel, I think, and easy to see in their films together! It's what makes us watch again and again

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

They kissed in "Carefree", "Castles" and "Barkley's".

@carolcaruso6641 Жыл бұрын

@@lanecountybigfooters5716 that's true! I own all their movies. But what meant was I wonder if his wife showed up on the set of all his movies and knitted like she did on the fred/ ginger set, like with Rita,, Eleanor Powell, Cyd Charisse, etc.. There is an interview on KZfaq thats pretty new in which Ginger is interviewed about their pictures together and said she sat sewing for hours and she and Fred would go to lunch together, and that Ginger didn't feel particularly welcome in their home as a single lady. Very interesting interview for sure. They seemed very comfortable playing married in Barkleys and Castles. I guess she was his "work wife" for a whole there! Ha!

@leesashriber5097 Жыл бұрын

They were magical together. 🕊️🙏❤️

@michaelcasey8730 Жыл бұрын

Both were very great performers But Ginger Rogers was off the chain beautiful Fred was a great talented dancer But what made him much more eye catching was his beautiful partner she takes a back seat to no one Not even Fred Astaire To find any partner that fits into your life so we'll and builds your reputation Fred Astaire should be so greatful to have found Ginger Rogers

@thetoastedhippies1997 Жыл бұрын

I agree, completely! When it comes to Ginger, I am smitten.

@christineparis5607 Жыл бұрын

Glamour and sophistication, beautiful.

@scopex2749 6 ай бұрын

There will NEVER be a dancing couple like these 2. IMHO Ginger was a SUPERB dancer and actress not to mention those amazing legs and looks! SIZZLING!

@i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 10 ай бұрын

Astaire was a smart man. He didn't want to be recognized as a team he wanted to be recognized as a star himself. Ginger was the same way. Ginger was a very hard worker, in her early days she would film a movie on Long Island during the day, then work on Broadway in a play at night!

@cybelemarie7913 Жыл бұрын

The truth is, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did ... except backwards, and wearing high heels!

@linchen008 Жыл бұрын

In high heels: yes Only backwards: no

@christysatfield8302 Жыл бұрын

Ginger Rogers said this herself. I hope you aren’t taking credit for the quote.

@ottoranking Жыл бұрын

@@christysatfield8302 Ginger Rodgers in her biography indicated she did not say that. The quote is attributed to cartoonist Bob Thaves in his 'Frank and Ernest’ series. See Oxford Dictionary of Quotations under Misquotations. Regardless, they both were great dancers.

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

That quote is so old. And she wore flats a lot too.

@kerstin.jitschin5861 Жыл бұрын

It’s time to watch those two’s again ❣️thanks for sharing 👍

@donnagamble5283 Жыл бұрын

Wow! I’m even more amazed by the fact that she could look as dazzling as Astaire and not be a trained dancer!

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

No training PRIOR to working with Fred Astaire and Hermes Pan, two of the best ever to dance and teach! If you watch the dances in chronological order, you can literally see her improvement. She initially danced, then added tap at an astonishing rate.

@rosalindwilliams4431 Жыл бұрын

I just think they were very great dancers and very great actors. I'm watching the movie Top Hat right now.🙂

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

Well, 1:30 in and there's some incorrect information. According to Fred's autobiography, they dated from October 1930 to June 1931and definitely had more than one date. There was a reason Phyllis insisted Fred marry her three days before they moved from NY to LA. Two months later, Fred ASKED for Ginger on "Rio" according to their mutual friend, Lucille Ball. Fred basically trained her in dance for 19 years, off and on. For instance, on "Carefree", Fred got 500 hours of rehearsal into his contract... on a locked stage, with a security guard and NO ONE was allowed in (except for Hermes Pan and Hal Borne). That's a lot of "dance rehearsal" imho. She decorated his dressing room at RKO (which he kept for a decade) for the holidays (with her own key) and he visited her frequently on her movies, with pictures as proof if you care to look. They exchanged letters and post cards throughout their lives. He bought her some really nice jewelry, too, (including a watch worth $7k), and stuck up for her against her detractors his entire life, contrary to his publicity team's successful propaganda. I suspect their relationship was more than just friendly or professional. But both of their autobiographies tell you what they want you to know, not necessarily the truth. And that may likely never be known exactly because they took their secrets to the grave - where they are buried 150 feet apart in a non-Hollywood cemetery in the Valley, where they are quite undisturbed now. Sorry for the book - Fred & Ginger are my obsession. :)

@lenhummel5766 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. That was very informative & likely very accurate. It was more than merely professional.👍

@thetoastedhippies1997 Жыл бұрын

I am obsessed with them, also. I watch them dance every day! Usually 3 to 4 numbers.

@carolcaruso6641 Жыл бұрын

Another obsessed person here! Lovely post and I think you are right!

@CantoErgoSum Жыл бұрын

You are 1000% correct.

@esmeephillips5888 11 ай бұрын

Fred's marriage to Phyllis was no secret when he arrived in Hollywood, and Ginger was already on her second spouse, so in those straitlaced times the only publicity angle could work with the fan mags was that there was a 'feud'. The boring truth is that both were preternaturally dedicated professionals whose temperamental affinity made them click as a partnership.

@christophers796 6 ай бұрын

Ginger Rogers and fred Astaire 🎉 🇬🇧 were such a great pair in the movies 🎥🇬🇧

@donatord Жыл бұрын

I know how that is. I retired as a senior design engineer and I worked with this really intelligent lady engineer and I told her I enjoyed working with her and she said she hated working with me and I was so shocked. I said why? She said because I’m endlessly checking everything and reviewing everything And that’s just my style of working. She felt I was questioning her abilities with the constant checking everything over again. I told her that even though she felt that way I was going to work doubly hard because I wanted her to enjoy working with me as much as I enjoyed working with her. And eventually I think I won her over because she was really gifted and smart. I was lucky to have such an intelligent partner for some of the projects we worked on together. She had moved here from South America and had a super nice husband and two really great kids. She was one of the nicest people I ever worked with, I was pretty sad she felt a little different about me. I wonder if she ever worked with someone that respected her as much as I did.

@skyavalanche Жыл бұрын

Your videos are the Gold Standard. So well researched, educational, and always entertaining. I appreciate and enjoy every one. Thank you ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

@kirstymackenzie2437 Жыл бұрын

Rita Hayworth was his real favourite dance partner.

@elidavega294 Жыл бұрын

El duo mas PERFECTO..FOREVER!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏👏

@albertdehn8381 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing 👍😀

@larasemerad2605 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and I love both movies they are together or individual.

@donaldmonzon1774 3 ай бұрын

always a joy to watch their movie !!!!💕

@user-mx2uc9ue3t Жыл бұрын

Ginger danced in lots of movies without Astaire. Just a few of those.... Sitting Pretty, Upperworld, In Person, Stage Door, Roxie Hart, Lady in the Dark Astaire didn't dance because of his sister. He danced because he had one of the biggest stage mothers in the history of stage mothers.

@annettepora8091 Жыл бұрын

Fred's best partner was Rita Hayworth. Rita was a dancer since her youth and was extraordinary in her technique.

@contardi Жыл бұрын

He said that once.

@ctruth6185 Жыл бұрын

Speak for yourself. Ginger Rogers & Fred Astaire partnership captures the joy & majesty of ethereal romance. Cyd Charisse & Vera Ellen had a magic & style of their own. I love the performing art of dance! It enraptures the soul!

@hestergreen2031 Жыл бұрын

Ginger Rogers was an excellent partner on stage & screen.

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

Not as good as Fred.

@vickilindberg6336 Жыл бұрын

I doubt EPowell cried. Ginger was an amazing trooper.

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

Eleanor Powell was easily Fred's equal in talent!

@ctruth6185 Жыл бұрын

@@lanecountybigfooters5716 Fred was far more visionary with regards to dance, he choreographed numbers, directed his dance number and even had input on filming dance numbers with, detail as to, camera angles, set design and camera shots. Fred was a musician too. Astaire did more for marrying the art of dance to film than Eleanor Powell. The result, great art. He created timeless artistry, beautiful, unique, innovative performances captured on film. Eleanor Powell was a strong dancer but not a pioneer or an artistic innovator. In fact, all of her numbers kind of look the same to me. For me Powell is a good performer. But Astaire is great art, that takes me to another place. Thank you. I'm not even from that generation but I know what I like.

@patricemoran7469 Жыл бұрын

Despite their more formal relationship off screen probably somewhat oweing to Phyllis Astaire's jealous nature...they had tons of chemistry on screen and I believe Fred came to really appreciate working with Ginger. According to Hermes Pan when Ginger told RKO executives in 1939 that she was done with musicals and wanted to broaden her horizons careerwise...Fred was very upset and distressed and would fret over his future prospects. As we all now know...today he is overwhelmingly regarded today as the greatest film dancer of the 20th century...danced on the ceiling...danced with coat racks...and lots of beautiful females...Rita Hayworth...Cyd Charrise...Judy Garland...Jane Powell...Leslie Caron...Audrey Hepburn, etc.etc.etc.

@lenhummel5766 Жыл бұрын

Yes. and even Paulette Goddard and Audrey Hepburn❗

@laraegodwin6008 Жыл бұрын

I feel sad that Fred Astaire gets too much praise and recognition for his dancing, and i love him , too , but he gets too much. I wish that Eleanor POWELL and Ginger Rogers would get as much. Astaire even said that Powell was superior to him , but he refused anymore films with her !! And Hollywood started not appreciating her less because she was a woman !! They stopped putting her in films and i wish that she had fought them but sadly she did not.

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

They had an 8-movie contract after "Rio"; it was always going to end after that, whenever they completed that number of films. And Fred was probably shaking in his boots, since his career really hadn't taken off yet. Fred fretted over everything.

@esmeephillips5888 Жыл бұрын

@@laraegodwin6008 Eleanor quit voluntarily in 1943 bc she wanted to be a full-time wife and mother. Since 1939 she had said she would not renew her MGM contract. She was engaged to an art director there, but after a serious illness she became Glenn Ford's fiancee. She made one independent film while he was on war service with the USMC. In the late 1940s MGM offered her a comeback but she refused.

@lisabelle7553 Жыл бұрын

Ginger Rogers- what an incredible star!

@thetoastedhippies1997 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion, the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

She was only good because they partnered her w Fred A.

@Cward303 Жыл бұрын

@@meghanmisaliar too bad your partner doesn’t make you look any better or vice versa 😅😅😅

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

@@Cward303 uhm, except they do. They literally said SHE made him sexier, and HE made her "classier". Pay attention hon.

@meghanmisaliar Жыл бұрын

@@Cward303 she admitted that she had no dancing style. She copied him. SHE said that.

@daveconleyportfolio5192 10 ай бұрын

This "only kissed once" business is false. Their last movie, "The Barkleys of Broadway" has quite a lot of kissing. And they look very convincing while doing it.

@drsunshine1959 5 ай бұрын

Yes, they do!

@skykingimagery899 5 ай бұрын

No one was ever better even including Gene Kelly.

@nancycurtis488 11 ай бұрын

And she died because she would not take insulin for her diabetes because of her Christian Science religion. Such a huge shame…a truly talented dancer and actress. I miss her total class!

@feliciajenkins5041 Жыл бұрын

Blood in the shoes 😱

@thetruthhasconsequences58 Жыл бұрын

Uh, extremely common for ballerinas,🤔 as well for tap dancers.Not shocking 😭

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

47 takes

@paulhopkins5051 22 күн бұрын

I loved their films together. I watched them many times but I watched them for Ginger. I thought she was awesome as a dancer, awesome as an actress and she was so damn sexy. As a young kid I was smitten by her.

@Sojourning_ 2 күн бұрын

I been watching the pare for 70 years, dancing. Recently I concluded the women Astaire danced with were even better then Astaire at dance, For the most part, many times the women had to do the dance moving backwards while Fred moved forward. they would need to do all the steps going in all directions. They made Fred look good,

@harryodum5598 4 ай бұрын

I have always heard Fred’s breath was so bad that people would put Vicks in there nose. And for some reason they started hiding the truth…

@beforeourveryeyes Жыл бұрын

What a strange choice of packground music. Thanks, anyway.

@belkyhernandez8281 Жыл бұрын

How do you knit loudly? WTH!?

@alisonm2257 Жыл бұрын

Lol!

@TheodoraWimsey Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt that Eleanor Powell cried. Astaire didn't like dancing with Powell because he said she danced "like a man" i.e. she as good or better than he could. Powell was also a trained gymnast.

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

Eleanor Powell was easily Fred's equal. Could have been some sour grapes!

@audreydaleski1067 Жыл бұрын

I heard they did spend time toether.

@eckesg2 Жыл бұрын

Katherine Hepburn famously said of them "He gave her class. She gave him sex"

@ellendolber2765 Жыл бұрын

That's just nasty......she got some nerve seeing she lived with a married man

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

I THINK it was more in terms of "sex appeal" but with Kate, she might have just said it to spite Ginger, with whom she competed. Fred refused to give her dance lessons.

@vickiebunch3072 Жыл бұрын

I think Kate meant that Ginger gave Fred sex appeal.

@asielnorton345 17 күн бұрын

this is hardly the truth about fred and ginger.

@aahz42 5 ай бұрын

this is a horrible video "sometimes more cheerful, sometimes more thoughtful." Gershwin loved Astaire for a reason that was good in the period - his voice was better suited for those kind of songs before better recordings made Sinatra or Elvis better. You also discount his contributions as a great vaudeville actor like buster keaton.

@heartofpuregold Жыл бұрын

Prefer Gene Kelly..

@emeraldkimble7602 Жыл бұрын

Fred couldn’t sing

@lanecountybigfooters5716 Жыл бұрын

George Gershwin, Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, Dorothy Fields and Cole Porter would disagree.

@drsunshine1959 5 ай бұрын

Astaire was a wonderful singer. I had a cabaret act in which I sang the classic songs written by some of the greatest songwriters in history just for him.