agreed

Yep. Happy to say I had him wrong when I first saw him!

Are you trans Tom?

He's still annoying and not really a good presenter.

whats that got to do with it? Rylan aint trans@@hmq9052

You're easily swayed.

@@hmq9052 Do you know Rylan personally?

@@nicholaskeenan211 No.

@@hmq9052 not a bad thing to change your mind when presented with new more current evidence.

I watched Rylan experience homophobia at school and did nothing to stop it. Sorry Rylan.

Like when he sexually assaulted me

It means you’re postmodern-splaining “masculinity” to men, and that’s a product no one’s buying.

@@davidpar2 dude, you're not smart. You're a guy who watched Jordan Peterson and is naive enough to think he's an intellectual

@@UnderTheKoscheii lol. If you _sincerely_ believe you’re vindicated by those statements, I’m fine with allowing the reality of the “toxic masculinity” whining crowd + the reality of the world we all actually live in to collectively speak for itself on that point.

@@UnderTheKoscheii I LOVE how you wokies always tell on yourselves. _You_ are the ones who subscribe to labels and “arguments from authority” such as “intellectual” or “enlightened.” I simply continue recognizing that human discernment still exists.

bang on bhoy ! i take this opportunity to apologise for the behaviour of el hadj diouf for his disgusting insult to your fans and the shirt he wore , we never walk alone he does,,,

big jock knew

lol the only club where I think this might be true, sadly.

Dream on cowboy lololol

Callum McGregor and James Forrest I reckon are gay. It's obvious.

He because he's done as he's told to do and the arse licking has slowed down because he's made his money

He's a decent lad

Since BGT or Pop idol, whichever it was, he seems a lot more comfortable in his own skin

He used to be a bit fony and was more this is Essex,than this morning,but he has calmed the gay man cliche drama dwn,and acts more real a likeable,but don’t use a game to push the banter of some fans about there being gay haters in football,it’s a game our game and not to be used for agendas of any kind ,keep it about the football.the wrongs in society exist regardless,not just in our game

@@owenmcghee1666 but not his mouth his teeth 🦷 are invading his face😂

Lol😂

Bonnet de Douche!

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Not even sure if this is homophobic or francophobic

That's an Essex accent, babes

Is that your fear tho? It’s one thing to play dress up, it’s another thing to piss off English men by dressing up as something you’re not. Fact is I wouldn’t be pleased to see you but I wouldn’t harm you in any way..

​@@aclark903why are English men getting offended about someone's appearance? I thought you guys were supposed to be anti woke and not offended or affected by anything? Interesting 🤔

@@aclark903 You might not be willing to harm me yourself, but out of a stadium full of people who wouldn't be pleased to see me, I'm sure at least a handful would be willing to harm me, if they had the chance to. Just want to clarify I'm not loosing sleep over not being able to enjoy going to a football match, I sort of get it, it's a man's domain, they go there to enjoy themselves, they don't necessarily want people around who put them out of their comfort zone, if it's that much of a problem for some people, I'm willing to honour that, I'm not here to force myself onto people where I'm not welcome, but since they're discussing the topic, I thought I would share how I feel as a transgender person. I'd rather just be able to walk down the street without people shouting things at me, beeping car horns and shouting out the car, calling me a faggot, standing in the street looking at me like I'm the scum of the earth when I'm just going about my life, things like that are definitely worse than loosing my ability to stand in a football stadium and feel safe. I don't align with your view on what "dressing up as something I'm not" is, as in my view, if I were dressing up as a man, I'd be dressing up as someone I'm not, so my two choices are either, lie to you (in your eyes), or lie to myself. After 20 years of not being myself due to fear of disappointment from others, I can honestly say I'd never go back to what my life was before transitioning, as disappointment in myself for not being myself, for fear of disapproval from others, is a lot worse.

Barton is a top tier whopper.

Yeah hate when people tell the truth

@@James-bc1jk What truth? Barton isn't telling the truth; he's spouting his awful opinions. He has every right to spout his awful opinions, btw. Just don't confuse them with the truth.

@@James-bc1jk What truth is that?

@@karlwilliams2703 People keep saying this but can't say what the truth is?

You should have trusted your gut instinct

No it was great about Justin Fashanu he was found out quicky before he could sexually abuse anyone in the UK. Unfortunately he abused a child in the US and fled back to the UK, then commited suicide before it went to trail. A sick evil monster like Barry Bennell who infitrated the English game, we must have a zero tolerance atitude towards the LGBT.

He sexually assaulted me

Rylan sexually assaulted me lol

He sexually assaulted me.

Since when have football fans ever shown fear towards homosexuality?

@@Ennis85The word homophobia doesn't refer to a fear of homosexuality (it did originally used to refer to fears of becoming gay) but it refers to feelings of dislike or prejudice of gay or more generally LGBTQ people. Language changes, it's a poor argument too, "the word homophobia doesn't mean fear of gay people therefore I don't have to address what we're actually talking about".

Do you not have a TV or a radio ? 😅

100% minority, unfortunately I promise you very vocal

Absolute dreamer

It also shouldn't matter if a bad player is gay or straight either, we shouldn't tie acceptance to performance.

What did you think before?

You're allowed to find him irritating without being homophobic

Go watch some rugby league :) the most inclusive sport

I can tell you from first hand knowledge that the crowd, while being about the third the size, is exactly the same for both the male and female games lol

I'm actually not massively keen on woman's football, much prefering the men's game. The only positive thing I can say about woman's football is that players don't fall over and roll about in faigned agony at the slightest feather touch (or sometimes no contact at all). With regard to the sexualitie of a player, I personally could not care less!!! It is after all - as Ryland inferred - their own affair😊

Agreed. Especially if he was topping me

Drink just removes your inhibitions. It’s not the root cause of someone being homophobic, but it will make them more likely to shout a slur if they already have prejudices.

Alcohol has nothing to do with it and it doesn't cause bigotry. Plenty of pubs won't show football or allow people in with football related paraphernalia, as well as the laws regarding consumption of alcohol at football matches and separation of fans. Some pubs will even security on match days. This doesn't exist with other sports. The issue is the culture around football. There are issues with British drinking culture, not just when there's football, but alcohol isn't the cause of the problems amongst football fans and bigotry within it.

I have some Ashkanazi Jewish roots. Yiddish is / was their language . Hence the shortened word. It depends on context . Tottenham fans use it as a word of endearment. When Chelsea Fan. Lee Munns used it , to mock Tottenham and Jewish people in his sick Tweeted joke about the holocaust then it's usage was abhorrent . And that's why he got nicked.

@@nutcracker2916 Thanks Ashnut.

"but it would help SO MANY people if it was more of a thing we could talk about without batting an eye lid!" Or how about persuading them not to pursue the kind of lifestyles that have directly to the deaths and misery of millions who practiced it?

@@Ennis85 What lifestyle is that?

@@Ennis85 it's not a lifestyle, closet

@@FoxMunro It's a sexual behaviour, how is that not a lifestyle?

@@UnderTheKoscheii It's a sexual behaviour, how is that not a lifestyle?

Gay privilege!!

You should trust your gut more

@@Wherethereisnodarkness Extreme "Camp Mode" haha

If gay people stopped constantly telling us all about how gay they are and waving rainbow flags in our faces j as if we hadn`t already noticed then it wouldn`t be an issue...People get sick of constantly being browbeaten over homosexuality.

Not unless when "other people's lives" are having a detrimental impact on others.

If gays realised most people don’t give a damn about what they do in bed and have no interest whatsoever in their bogus “pride” about being kinky we would all be immeasurably better off and have one less thing to be forced to worry about out.

@@Ennis85 how is someone's sexuality having a detrimental impact on your life? Or anyone's for that matter?

@@whateverisavailableyleading with a false premise isn’t going to change realty. No one cares about other people’s sexual orientations. The people pushing this lgbt virtue signaling in football care about their OWN sexual orientations and expect people playing the sport, an activity that virtue signaling about sexual orientation has nothing to do with, to care, too. And that’s what people have a problem with. And will continue to have a problem with until the efforts to force people to co-sign it go away

And in the gay community

Except Using gay as an insult is not their problem. If anyone if putting down homosexuals it’s none other than their fellow homosexuals. You might want to Read up on the disproportionate high rates of domestic violence in same-sex relationships, drug/alcohol abuse, high number of sexual partners, fatal STDs like HIV/AIDs, mental illness, depression, suicides.

Its more if they have something in their pants which others don't whilst sharing a private space thats the problem 👍

Or have physical and biological unfair advantages but wanting to compete in the same sports as those that don't

@danielbentham758 that effects how many people? Just grow up its not a big issue. Think it's safer for a transwoman to go into a man bathroom when so many people seem to have an issue?

@@Lezzyboy87 you can't use that argument about it effecting a minority when transgender people are a tiny minority themselves. Ludicrous

@@Lezzyboy87 the majority of biological females disagree with you also, remember that.

Mug

Maybe if you educated yourself on the history of the words, you'd understand why it's considered homophobic.

@@burni988 I’m well aware of the argument I don’t agree with it. I know plenty of bi/gay men who agree with me.

⁠@@burni988”it’s considered homophobic” is not a meaningful point, it’s just a fragile narrative. And people who don’t know what a woman is or that there are only two genders are in no position to lecture _anyone_ on a “lack of education.” 🤡

Ten minutes ago I thought he was a prick….ten minutes later I still think he’s a prick

Imagine someone said the same thing about femininity. It’s not a substantial critique. If someone is behaving badly point it out instead of excusing it as gender performance.

​@daikucoffee5316 Interestingly, many learn from and have their toxicity legitimised by their own mothers.

There ARE elements of feminity that are damaging to society. Most women know and acknowledge this.

@@daikucoffee5316 men are the ones in control of society and have been for generation, they've built a culture of toxicity around their masculinity. i'm sure the same can be said about women, but they way it effects people are quite different. that's why the metoo movement was about holding men accountable for their abuse of power, not women.

@@DJWESG1 women are not exempt of toxic masculinity traits living in patriarchy

Either questioning or queer for everyone that doesn't feel comfortable with a specific label

The Q+ in lgbtq+ means _narcissist_

@@davidpar2 I'm clad the homophobes are admitting they're idiots immediately these days. Saves me a lot of time.

They oscillate back and forth between the two, depending on the imaginary victimhood _du jour_

Nobody said it wasn't. The reason it's being talked about more is because of lot of other things are moving forward and away from homophobia but football is being left behind in that positive change.