GSM Is GSM... MPG IS MPG.. To clarify, GSM is a standard metric of weight.. Grams per square meter it's a measurement of fabrics weight and density.. With that said for us to determine GSM we need to WEIGH the towel. Yes density plays a part as well, but again we need to WEIGH the towel to determine that.. GSM isn't the best way to determine the quality of the yarn, the overall performance of the towel or it's durability and longevity. I have used 800gsm towels that have scratched the paint and fallen apart after a few washes! Hope that helps:)

This is easily one of my favorite KZfaq channels out there. Honesty and realness is the best way to learn about anything online and you sir are the best at it.

Great stuff! Thanks for taking us down this rabbit hole.

Thanks for your up front work and no BS approach!

Scott I just wanted tell you that I enjoy your videos. They are informative and knowledgable. I like the way you handle yourself, and don’t put on airs. Good job keep it up

I appreciate the fact that you have so much knowledge and detailed info about your trade.... You have certainly dedicated your life to your craft

Hey Scott! I am a subscriber of yours and have watched nearly every one of your videos. I have learned a great deal from you. I am 63, retired and on Social Security Disability due to extreme degenerative Arthritis and other health issues. Nonetheless, I am ODC; therefore I can't help myself from being as active as I can ;-) I was a professional artist making a good living painting heirloom portraits. When I was young my parents and grandparents taught me "a job worth doing is worth doing right!" I kept my bicycles in perfect shape; over the years I've done the same with my cars and motorcycles. I currently have three older Mercedes; my favorite is a 2005 E320, Silver with Black leather interior. I work at keeping it in Showroom condition. All this rambling (like you?) to ask if you've ever tried Rain Drops Detailing Supply products? I think it was on a couple of Apex Detailing videos. I like how the glass Rain Drops glass products appear to work. I would love your opinion regarding this. By the way, I have four children; one son named Scott. (Pretty good name, huh?)

Great video Scott!

Thank you for this video 😁

Love your videos Scott I been watching and learned a lot about polishing and waxing cause of your videos I just did my charger for the first time it was time consuming but the results were worth the time and hard work.... I have a question now I used meguiar's ultimate compound and liquid wax about how long will it last until I need to do it again ???

Your completely right. The specs don’t always tell the whole story but if you’re buying towels online you can’t hold the towel before buying. The gsm and blend info will give an indication of what to expect so are useful in that respect.

I always learn from your vids, Scott. Always. I have drawers full of MF towels and ultimately, I agree with your summation that you have to buy and use what works best for you. Some brands are garbage, others become your staples. EXPERIMENT!

Great advise for a novice like me... Thank you kindly :)

just for general-purpose microfiber towels that I use for anything from taking polish off a car cleaning windows are the towels from Costco I don't know who makes them I just know that the GSM is 300 and you get 36 of them for like $20 I mean it's really hard to beat and they're so affordable that you get a good couple of washers out of them and use them for like picking up oil or something like that doing an oil change and then you throw them away some people spend ridiculous amounts of money on these towels but if you're using towels for drying any what's better waffle weave or regular towels that's Up For Debate to using a blower obviously would be best but some people don't have those.

im only gonna say that my TRC towels works fantastic and last for ever. I wash and dry them carefuly with Micro-restore. The pluffles and the eagle just have gave me a ton of hours work. As for the washmitt I swear only by microfiber Madness. I wont risk buying other towels brands.

Hello Scott! Love your super-informative videos. How do you care for your microfiber towels? Any specific type of wash, or procedure? Does all of the gunk come off every time? Also can you recommend a good brand of towel? Thanks!

Thanks Scott! Excellent points! Folks you could go crazy trying to figure out all the bs on towels. Find the ones you like of decent quality.

Scott after polishing is it ok to wash to remove all the dust or should I apply the sealant then wash.Or do you have a step by step video of describing all full blown exterior detail from start to finish with light paint correction and paint protection included.Thanks

Scott, Can you do a detailing video with ONLY products you can buy from any local brick and mortar store?

How can you determine if the quality of the weave and yarn?

What's your personal pick for drying? What about removal of liquid or paste wax? How about drying with a quick detailer?

waiting on your discussion of the 16x16 dimension.

I own the Sucker and the Jr. There isn't a towel better than it. Way to go Scott, amazing product!! I am going to buy all of his towels in Bulk.

As you say Scott "don't over think the moment". I have had good luck with Walmart's premium microfiber towels ad I get the cheap ones for really nasty jobs like scrubbing wheels or cleaning the rubber mats in my truck. I have learned a lot from these videos. I refuse to pay money just for a fancy logo, I have done that with some of the Snap on tools I have bought throughout my mechanic career. I will be starting a part time gig mobile detailing this next Spring. I want majority of the product I use to be readily available. I took your advice and bought the HF DA, I tend to avoid HF.

which towel do you suggest for helping in the paint correction process?

I have a question is it better to buy in gallons or onces cause I’m a beginner in detailing and I’m starting my detailing business what’s better gallon or once’s

If they won't give us thicker clear coats glaze has to be the way to go right. If its as thin as you say we can only do one correction right? That sucks! My old banger looking better than ever with realistic hopes! Thank you! Love to all yours! Feel the love! May you prosper my friend!!!

How to tell if the yarn is good quality?

This is very useful information. Thank you for another great video Scott.

What do you think about the home depot towels?

I have used The Rag Company for years, and I have gotten 2 bad towels that linted. When I called and told them they were incredibly nice and helped me get them replaced for free. I don't know what kind of "lies" these guys have spread to you, but it kind of just seems like the big dog taking a crap on the little guys and calling them a hoax. Sad how people can make money off shaming other detail companies, just because controversy makes them grow. SMH

Good video

Agree on most of your points, however, there's one flaw in your logic. 😊 GSM is GSM. Size of the towel is irrelevant. 300 GSM on a square meter towel will still be fraction of 300 GSM on a 16"x16" towel or any other size. It's just a measurement of weight on a certain surface area, which happens to be measured per square meter, so for any given towel (regardless of size) a 600 GSM towel will be twice as heavy as a 300 GSM. - Cheers!

You can test fiber content for around $150-200

I always wondered why Costco and some other big box retail stores don't put GSM metric on their MF packaging, Maybe Scott does have a point.

LOL, I've heard it as "figures don't lie and liars figure"

What advice or direction would u give a Beginner who wanted to do detail on the side with out spending hundreds of dollars on Machines chemicals and all types of wax and polishes and also pads. Who knws how to detail but doesn't have the money to spend to strt there own business but doing it on the side would hope that it would Flourish to become a full time business.

Mr. Scott, I have enjoyed your videos. I have just started watching them about two weeks ago. I've seen some were you were not in DFW area. Sir, you remind me of Sheldon on The Big Bang Theory! When someone disagrees with him he out right tells them, "you're wrong!" Keep them coming sir!

I am waiting for Ray Barone to walk into the video... :)

Can you recommend a brand?

Hey Scott, I’m a big fan of your honest and informative videos but a few of your recent videos have left me scratching my head more than usual. Specifically, while I appreciate you pointing out all hype in your industry you haven’t provided solutions or recommendations to really help guys like me so this video and the recent paint prep video are lacking, at least for me. Maybe there is going to be a follow up. Not sure. Just my two cents.

Scott what microfiber towels do you recommend?

This is a personal invite for Rag company to pop by Texas :)

All good

Scot would so buy your products! !! Just help me get them here at less than paying double what they are worth!

Awesome video Scott ... I'm looking for the best towel for windows .can you help me with that ?

Is there any microfiber towels made in the good ol USA?

Very subjective , thank you!

I find the Costco m/f towels are decent quality. I do just my own vehicles and find they work well. Wash a load as needed with 3D Towel Kleen which seems to do a good job. I have cheaper towels that I use for things other than paint. I've heard the Costco towels are 350-400 gsm . Whatever. They work for me. Good video Scott. I guess you just have to trust what the manufacturer says.

In your findings , what do you use and where do you buy yours .

Scott we should compare 100 % cotton to 100 % microfiber?

Although some of what you say about other companies may be (and I'm sure is) true, I do not like to say anything about them without verifying my findings. However, I agree with you about microfiber towels and the numbers. If it feels high quality, and does the job without harming the surfaces, where it is made and the brand is irrelevant. Please continue making informative videos. Thank you.

Some one once told me “a lie will travel across the world before the truth straps on it’s boots.”

I just use micro fiber towels from Wal Mart. 30 small towels for around no more than 15 dollars. Once I beat them up so bad, it’s much easier to just toss them in the trash.

I have 10 Eagle Edgeless towels from TRC that are bad. Linting and sticking to paint like glue. No one can tell me why. Any ideas?

I put your Jack of all trades towel up against the Rag Company eagle edgeless 500 gsm towel and the Luxury Microfibers felt and performed significantly better....

So are there any brands or specific towels that you recommend?

GSM, if reported accurately and honestly, is 100% accurate. Absolutely no room for error. It's only silly if you don't get it.

Scott, GSM is not a measure of weight, it's a measure of weight divided by a unit of surface area. The size of the towel is totally irrelevant. Density is a measure of weight divided by unit of volume, which would be surface area times the thickness. GSM, therefore, is a function of thickness. The density of water is 8.34 pounds per gallon. It doesn't matter if I'm measuring one gallon or ten gallons, the density is exactly the same. There is no margin of error. I hope this helps. We love you all, Scott.

Numbers never lie, but, liers love to use Numbers... it's true in every sense even now...

Back in the mid-70's I worked for many years in the research department for a technical textile manufacturer and can only begin to imagine how the technical aspect of it has changed since then. Fabric weight has some bearing on how it may be used but there is much more to it. A towel and a scouring pad can have the same GSM and even be made from the same general type (polyester, nylon, etc.) of fiber but have very different uses. You can have fabrics made from the same fiber mix, size, etc, with the same GSM but have a different feel depending on how it is constructed. It was not unusual for one of our marketing people to bring in a 6 inch square (or less) of a fabric and want to know the weight, fiber type, fiber composition and many other qualities from this small piece. Although we could easily determine the GSM, fiber chemical percentages, it required much more work to be specific on the fiber type. Fibers have denier (cross sectional size), crimp, length, surface finish (actually part of the fiber), and other attributes. You could have one lot (tons) of fibers that were supposedly the same as the next lot, but performed slightly differently and that was in the 70's. I can't even begin to imagine the differences today. What will help the beginning detailer and weekend warrior is to explain the differences in types and quality of towels. What qualities to look for, what qualities to avoid, which ones you use and why. You do that so well with many of products that you showcase and we greatly appreciate it. I couldn't figure out where you were headed in this video. A 100 GSM towel will be 100 GSM whether it is a square meter (100 grams), a quarter of a square meter (25 grams) or a tenth of a square meter (10 grams). What makes a difference is how it is constructed and what it is constructed with, what makes a difference to us, the user, is how it actually performs. I'm sure most users care more about - can it scratch, how absorbent is it, does it lint, how long does it last, which one gives me the most bang for my buck. Scott, we sincerely thank you for all you do, keep up the good work.

I get all of my microfiber towels from Dollar Tree 🌲 $1.25 for a two pack or a single large soft towel. Great quality especially for the price. Not sure where in the hell they are made or their blend but they perform. And that’s all that counts.

Just a note, the most important thing when using microfiber on paint, be gental and don't think you clean or wipe your kitchen, else you'll see swirls.

I have learned and do my best to practice ' K.I.S.S.' in many ways for different things. I do my studies and if I should become attracted , at a price I'm willing to pay and seemingly should suit the needs, I will bite. A great many have worked out just fine while of course others have not. Your bummed for a bit from the waste but in the end I just move on.

Steel wool is abrasive. If is spun thin enough it can be used to "polish" things like remove rust from bumpers. But even OOOO steel wool scratches paint. No matter what "quality" of polyester, it is supper hard...almost on par with steel. So how has everyone jumped on the bandwagon of using super hard polyester on painted or polished surfaces? some manufactures even vaguely say to not use the on painted surfaces. How has the lie of numbers been glossed over that no one sees this super hard material is just really fine steel wool?

Scott, the saying is "Figures don't lie, but liars figure."

Scott - Once again you speak the TRUTH "with love". Keep preaching!! Cause some of us are listening!!

Another reason why your channel is awesome. Wealth of information helps us decipher truth from BS.... Thanks again.... Sir Scott...

Just to reiterated please make your products as world wide as possible 40 euros for fast shine hemmm

I believe Taiwan also make good towels~

Oh, come on. GSM, blend, and weave are objective measures that indicate the quality of the towel, all other things being equal. If we have a reliable supplier, we don't have to measure this, given that the supplier can tell us these things. China has a relatively freewheeling market that has been known to substitute melamine for wheat gluten and the like, so China vs. Korea may be seen by consumers as a measure of the reliability of the suppliers. Of course there's the chance for them to lie, but we aren't likely to buy every kind of towel in the universe to try them out and find which are good, and thus, we use these proxy measures to estimate the quality of the towel.

There is a lot of brain washing to get to your pocket. You are right Scott, we need to let those companies know that we are on them. We work to hard for our money, so they become rich and famous? Why do we always have to please people?

Can you tell us where to buy some high quality towels?

It was all so much easier when we were using diapers!

es kommt immer auf die Anwendung an je höher die GSM desto schlechter lässt sich stärker Druck aus üben, je niedriger die GSM desto weniger Produkt kann aufgenommen werden. ein wichtiger Punkt ist auch die Pflege der Tücher. kein weichspüler nutzen. trocken Tücher poliertücher, und wax, versiegel Detailer, reinigungs Tücher getrennt waschen. ich kann die die Tücher von Liquid Elements aus Deutschland sehr empfehlen. Preis Leistung ist für mich mit keiner anderen Marke zu vergleichen, allerdings kenn die Verfügbarkeit in den USA nicht.

just touch it you'll know

What's the deal with the chip on your shoulder, Scott? You seem to universally demonize those who sell products 'in your industry' indiscriminately. I'm sure, like anything, there are good and bad actors. I question how much more helpful this content would be if you could lighten up on the 'everybody's out to get you're rhetoric. You deliver a lot great content and this takes away from it for me - the weekend warrior and seemingly the target audience?

I’m too cheap to purchase expensive towels because at the end of the day it’s a towel and will eventually end up in the trash. Costco towels for the win.

Dam Scott keep it up. Great work!! Looking forward to your MF Towel report. Your are exposing the under belly of the Auto detailing as it's 90% marketing, maybe 1 of the worst industries around sad to say. Just learning that a wax or sealant that gives great beading is NOT what you want as it causes water spots when it rains! You want a wax or sealant that sheets the water so it almost eliminates the water spots, but marketing says customers wants the beading effect to show off, but really don't understand the problem. Keep it up Scott!

griots garage towels is overpriced

I always disappointed watching your videos.... You seemingly have a great spread, in this case a wide variety of towels, bit all you do is ramble.... Show us!