@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you place your reverb pedals in your signal path, and why? Tell us in the comments below! Table of Contents: 00:00 Introduction 00:26 What's Missing from the Reverb Discussion? 01:29 The Truth about Spring Reverb 06:20 Spring Reverb Placement Audio Examples 08:36 The Truth about Incorporating Delay and Reverb 10:47 Reverb & Delay in Parallel Audio Example 11:56 Parallel Wet FX Signal Path 12:35 The Truth about Delay & Reverb Pedal Order 13:54 Delay & Reverb Placement Audio Examples 16:44 Conclusion
@loveforallbxlmannif 2 жыл бұрын
Before the amp for convenience but, the preamp is very transparent and do not so much change the sound. (well i use a bass amp, modern Rumble fender. there's a loop but with to much volume for the Headroom spring)
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@loveforallbxlmannif there's going to be the most color in the preamp than any position in the amplifier. If you want it to sound like an amp spring reverb, the loop is the place if accuracy is the key factor.
@jimi272 2 жыл бұрын
i'm actually using reverb and delay in the loop. I, when i built my Board, thought about the reverb and delay order that way: when you want a room /slapback sound, the reverb mostly is bypassed or only the reverb is running. Using both, a room reverb and a slapjack delay at the same time, gives a cool effect, but also there: if the delay is short, and feeding into the room reverb, you have a room, and then you have a second room created by the delay that feeds into the reverb. so you end up with "twice" the room as if you use reverb before delay. same goes for longer delays: if you have a long hall reverb creating a space, and you have a delay afterwords, it will just repeat this hall space. but if you put the delay in front of the reverb, its like playing multiple notes into the hall space, which can make the space overcrowded. my opinion for pedalboards is that with delay after reverb, you get a much cleaner reverb that doesn't get muddy so quick, because it hasn't so much "gain" done by the repeats of the delay feeding into it. of course sometimes in some moody situations, where you want multiple guitars simulated with a delay, it can make sense to put it in front. But mostly, i end up preferring delay after reverb. Thats my thoughts, greetings Jonathan
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimi272 all valid!
@paristhalheimer 2 жыл бұрын
I place guitar, delay, reverb into amp.
@juanfichtl2011 2 жыл бұрын
Reverb before metalzone
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Go for it!
@brian1749 2 жыл бұрын
Who needs Reverb when you've got a Metal Zone? Just run a Metal Zone into a Metal Zone and you've got the ultimate TONE!!!
@andrewwebb604 6 ай бұрын
Metal Zone, Reverb. Metal Zone
@devarmont87 5 ай бұрын
Metal zone -> reverb -> vol 11
@sdriza 4 ай бұрын
MetalZone>MetalZone>MetalZone (can never have enough....)
@danieliger 2 жыл бұрын
I deliberately put reverb before drive. As soon as compact reverb pedals were available in the 80s new waver punk rockers put them in front of fuzz. It’s a big part of the shoe gaze dream pop sound. Not wrong, just different.
@fallenshallrise 2 жыл бұрын
Reverb first is "wrong" but it's so, so good. A lot of my boards have reverb first or just after the tuner.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
totally not wrong, personal preference is always the first priority.
@Bilsuburbians 2 жыл бұрын
Yes its part of the essentials in Shoegaze scene. Much reverb and fuzz
@jarcidiacono1 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc would you drop tremolo in the effects loop too? Wondering if I try that
@nedim_guitar 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarcidiacono1 I have had the tremolo after overdrive pedals, in the FX loop. It's cleaner in the loop, but it didn't sound bad after overdrive. Nowadays I don't even use the FX loop, I just put my whole chain into the front of the amp. It's fun to switch around.
@_left_eye 6 ай бұрын
Ain’t it cool how many pieces of gear we need today to reproduce a modest sounding version of songs that were actually recorded with a guitar, a cable and an amp?
@christopherrusch 2 жыл бұрын
classical. i saw bach’s equipboard, he apparently frequently used the catalin bread topanga
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@adrianfripp404 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc He's teasing you for saying "classical" when you meant "classic" 1:10. Fair enough for a guy who uses words like "disaggregated". (wink) Not dissing you, though. Like your vids.
@timharrington4470 2 жыл бұрын
I always learn something every time I watch your videos. They motivate people to try different things which is important. My favorite sound was parallel Reverb and delay. Will definitely be trying Reverb into delay to see the difference. You rock!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@robertbmxpa 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo. Bringing new light to what may otherwise seem a well known, simple topic. Really picked-up where the old conversation of "where do I place my reverb" typically ends, and took off with some in depth exploration. Very nice. I especially appreciate your responses in the comments. Very professional, and top notch!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@hunterplaysguitar2301 2 жыл бұрын
Nice and very informative video as always Mason 🙏 Thank you.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@petg12340 Жыл бұрын
Superb video. Brilliantly explained and detailed
@Jeff-11_354 2 жыл бұрын
This was seriously one of the best videos you've ever done on this channel. Hat tip.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 wow thank you!
@mattfrazier3759 2 жыл бұрын
Really clear and articulate explanation of technical topic. Thanks so much for taking the time to help me understand!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@eddlabel 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of Delay and Reverb, the ideal would be to have them always in parallel. However, we simple humans, pedalboard users, to avoid the mess of the Reverb being repeated in our Delay, go for the common sense order... It's a very good time we are living in with all these gear to mess around with preamp, power amp, effects, different signals, without having to be in a large studio. Great video!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@samrotschild 2 жыл бұрын
Recently discovered your channel. Great info. Already suscribed
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@jeffbeck5089 2 жыл бұрын
I use a simple formula. Tone, frequency, time. Example: Guitar , OD, Chorus, Delay into the amp. Simplistic, perhaps, but it works
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!
@rndm7528 Жыл бұрын
I like to play ambient sometimes , so what i do is i run my Big Sky or Boss Tera Echo with a long reverb before a phase 90 or a flanger and sometimes i stick a couple of delay pedals after those. The result is phased reverb that sounds great
@marcelotorres3285 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for talking about it AND also doing it!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Of course!
@blackdogrover 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I really dig this tutorial, as it shone light on a topic I think about all the time, but never invested the time researching the answers. Thanks much. Love what you bring to me here. So much knowledge and guidance. Really thought-provoking. 🎶🎶🌅🎶🎶
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@AsouzSan17 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mason, very good your explanation I am learning more and more about chain of effects. I use the following form: Guitar+Delay+Reverb+Ampli. This formula sounds better to my ears.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@thaianddanelifeinthailand4803 2 жыл бұрын
WOW !! This is good and useful stuff. I play small bars and small venues and this video definitely taught me a thing or two about combining delay and reverb, and especially the important and useful difference between the order of the two. Which boils down to personal preference. And also the song in question being played. Thanks a lot.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ericviking6530 11 ай бұрын
I once had a vibroking, I think the reverb was placed in front of the preamp, set as a standalone unit. I now use a Koch classictone 210 with a surfybear in front of preamp. Am I right about the vibroking? Greetz from the Netherlands (where Koch amps are made).
@mvwoon 6 ай бұрын
Delay is an acoustically "later" effect. Slap back, canyon echo, or bounce off a big wall (or old fashioned distributed speaker horn arrays on poles at outdoor arenas) is the last thing that happens, where reverb is a spectrum of reflections and EQ filtering from very fast reflections to longer ones.
@mykneeshurt8393 2 жыл бұрын
my reverb lives in my amp and sound AMAZING when I try to move the amp while it's turned on... Great video!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Rock on!
@rawkzilla2319 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video...will be viewing this again later to fully absorb everything with gear handy. Thnx 🎶🎸👍
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Hope we earned your subscription!
@rawkzilla2319 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Yes definitely subbed 👍
@MoggioMTB 2 жыл бұрын
Funny when I bought the new BOSS RV-2 because the Marshall had no reverb, just spent 5 mins experimenting and plugged it in last in the pedal chain. It sounded "goodest" and that's where it stayed because it gave a reverby sound. Bigger room, dial it back, smaller room dial it up a bit. Pretty much end of thought about it. Now that pedal sounds very different to an amp reverb but it gave that rough space to the sound and as an effect sounded cool. Really rough and brute force with no subtlety in that thinking. Great video explaining what can be done!!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Hamppzah 2 жыл бұрын
Most informative guitar rig content out there currently!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@PatatoKeftes 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion on running reverb and delay in paralllel. And man those licks you chose to use to demostrate sounds were just perfect choices.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@badgerdub 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I really learned some stuff and got turned on to new vendors and tools. Parrallel reverb and delay is cool but there is also nothing wrong with stacking 3 delays in serial like Ry Cooder. You would think this would sound like muddy shoegaze mess but he gets some of the most incredibly huge clean sounds this way. Catalinbread Talisman plate reverb is my favorite reverb pedal because it sounds extremely good plugged into the front of a clean or gritty Fender. It does the EMT140 sound in a simple pedal better than anything else. I find that using a high efficiency speaker like a JBL E120 in an open back cab is very friendly to having big lush reverbs run through them. A low wattage speaker like a V30 sounds better having reverb added after the mic.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@strauss885 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome breakdown I appreciate these kind of deep dives into sound and tone 👍
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@danielmiller2886 Жыл бұрын
After seeing the title, I'm so confused. I learned the signal chain from your video to begin with!
@bleedinggumsmurphy537 2 жыл бұрын
The explanation here is fantastic but what's even better is that tone with that reverb tank 🤤 oh lordy that's good
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yea!
@whodunitpros8555 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mason, great segment. I’ve been enjoying the TC Electronic Plethora 5x which offers an array of TC E pedals but also allows you to switch pedal order on the fly simply by pressing both foot switches at the same time. Some banks I’ll have a tremolo, delay, reverb, delay, reverb, and then can stack or switch as needed.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, that's a cool pedal!
@FranktheBlindArtist 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Gave me lots of parallel ideas
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@pursharthchawla8306 2 жыл бұрын
killer video! thank you so much
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you dig it!
@TheStudioRats 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏 just follow the lead of the “Rats” keep up the good work gents! Thanks for watching!
@j_wah3084 2 жыл бұрын
Love it. Reverb pedals typically don't sound "right" to my ears. Now I know why. Rock on, Mason. 🤘
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
This may not be the only reason, but perhaps one of them.
@gregmize01 2 жыл бұрын
Always interesting!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@onewiththings 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always learning something new!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@franknavarro9364 Жыл бұрын
Thaks a lot!! You enlighten me. Even with my Hx stomp alone that I have right here.
@reverendg5937 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for being you. The Rig Doctor Strikes Again!!!!
@simonhirstmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Mason! Personally, it just depends on what sound I’m chasing, and the context. If it’s in the studio then I’ve found it’s about knowing which placement helps me achieve which result and then setting it up accordingly. If it’s strictly my live board for my original music then I like it last 👍🏻 I do it that way because it gives me a similar thing as to what I’d do when adding in a reverb in a DAW which I like. I mostly use reverb more sparingly so this works well. But again, that’s just what’s works best for me 👌🏻
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and for the comment!
@Soundchain101 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful segment. Thanks. Following up on your call for suggestions, a segment like this might benefit from including examples from famous recordings, where possible. For instance, noting that tube reverb boxes appear to have been developed and used prior to integration into guitar amps, it would have been cool to have one or two samples of segments of famous songs/artists where this set up was used and to hear the studio reference. Not necessarily an easy task but a nice to have. Thanks again.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@PhearNoneGearGadgets 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what your recommendations would be for electric violin. Would they change? how do you feel about UAFX golden reverberator . Thank you for this detailed review.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't change much...you might need something that converts your mic'd Violin to high impedance unbalanced like a Voco Loco to bring in pedals properly, but otherwise would be the same approach.
@Pro355Street 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and informative video. Thanks for putting this one out! I run a clean platform amplifier with delay before AND after reverb ;) because options 🤙🏻
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope we earned your subscription!
@chrisdaviesguitar 2 жыл бұрын
the placement of pedals is solely down to the user. there is no right or wrong way. If it sounds good to you, then it's right.
@soundslikebroken3333 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Depends on what you're going for. If you want to emulate your heroes and the sounds of the past, he's absolutely right. If you're doing something different and unique, you aren't beholden to conventional wisdom. *shrugs
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing in here disputes that sentiment.
@playpm Жыл бұрын
Reverb into delay might be out of control, cuz the stacked reverb tails from delay can boost the highs quite a lot, you can definitely hear the clipping from video demo at 14:50, it's clipping at almost every strumming and it sounds harsh to me. So didn't convince me for that part, but appreciated for explaining where the reverb happens in that amp.
@jayseb 2 жыл бұрын
And me that thought I knew how to use my Reverb... hahaha. I mean I run it in the loop, but as for the rest... well. Great video.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@eduardoprieto5267 2 жыл бұрын
Super cool thanks.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@evalonious 11 күн бұрын
This video was very helpful: Researched a year before getting the White Whale (red). Now, the new White Whale (blue) allows switching the order of the trem/Rev. Nice feature, having to do with this video. I wish I had the new one.... but great pedal.
@silverdragon0000120 2 жыл бұрын
I have a mesa badlander. If I wanted delay and reverb. Would it be okay to put reverb in the effects loop and have the delay on the front of the amp or together with the reverb in the effects loop? Thanks. I'm new to this
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say both in the loop.
@glenndowell3373 2 жыл бұрын
Great content and information… I wish you had a signal chain master class.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day! Thanks for watching Glenn!
@user-pd1oc2zs9q Жыл бұрын
I love reverb, chorus and tremolo. I have found it essential to put a reverb pedal available before AND after each one on my board. If I was forced to choose one option, I would set up with my reverb BEFORE each of those effects. Especially the tremolo! If you like tremolo, make sure you try it after the reverb! The assumption reverb should be at the end is worth testing!!
@error8418 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice overview over a complex subject. I have always preferred my reverb at the very end of the signal chain, i.e. after the mic pre. There's only so much you can do with running a pedalboard into the front end of an amp.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, we did that in the Wet/Dry scenario basically - very similar.
@error8418 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I have been experimenting with an HX stomp for that application.
@andreacanova8253 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience, and in my actual pedalboard, the chain I love most is: dyn>drv>preamp>cab sim>mod>delay>reverb.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@clifford_2zero7 2 жыл бұрын
7:05 "wicked game" I play that all the time. One of my favorite reverb tunes. EDIT** Then you played "hallelujah" which is probably my favorite reverb-y tunes that I play frequently. Jeff Buckley's version that solo he does at the 420-430 mark is amazing love that lil bit!
@AndersonGandra 2 жыл бұрын
Very good! Thank you! PS: THAT strat sound 🤤
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good one! Shout out to to Chicago Music Exchange for picking a gem of a guitar for me :).
@RichInternationalAir 10 ай бұрын
Mason, though you posted this a year ago, I've only just seen it. Very helpful, thank you! 😊 🎸
@VertexEffectsInc 10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bozzolanmusic3617 2 жыл бұрын
Very good man !!!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening
@Mauitaoist 2 жыл бұрын
I have an original 64 fender Princeton reverb.I love the Reverb on the amp, I also have reverb by my board but I always keep my Princeton set for a clean sound so it doesn't really interfere with the drive because all my drives come from my pedals so I can have both. Also I use delay before reverb. Just the way Mason said was "wrong" but I like the delay to be crisp followed by reverb, and keeping my amp clean the reverb is still post preamp as my pedal drives are the acting as the "preamp". I love using parallel effects when I'm playing through my rack.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
You can still have crisp delay post reverb, however it's impossible on a vintage Fender amp because you can't separate the pre and power amp. The part we're saying is "wrong" is more of - if you're attempting to set up a vintage reverb tone with an amp without reverb to resemble an old Fender, like you have, you have to put the reverb in the loop. Just as your '64 Princeton has the Reverb after the preamp in terms of the internal circuitry.
@randyheath8566 Жыл бұрын
It's been so long since I used a pedal board, I don't recall where I would place my pedals at. But I do remember that I had pedals, I plug straight in now.
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's time to start bringing a few back into the mix?
@simoneh4732 2 жыл бұрын
Wampler did a video a few years back saying Reverb after Delay, then did another video a couple years later where he backtracked and preferred Delay after Reverb. Personally I find Reverb after Delay (in front of the amp) has too much wash - I like the crispness of having Delay at the end. My favourite part of this video and my key takeaway was the Reverb before vs after pre-amp comparison. Big difference, and much nicer sound and closer to the original. I don't think I'll fuss with that for live playing, but that's great to know for recording.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Personal preference is everything, also depending on how intense the delay is will also change how influenced it is. Of course, you can run them in parallel and then the order doesn't matter :)
@GitShiddy Жыл бұрын
I have a Source Audio Collider that I run in mono with an MXR Sugar Drive after then I split the signal with an Ernie Ball Expression Tremolo & MXR Carbon Copy going to the cleaner amp & a Dunlop Mini-Wah goin to the dirtier amp (both amps are on at all times). It's quite versatile in crafting whatever sound I want with respect to reacting to reverbs. Drive after verb is hugely underrated.
@felixkjonsberg6493 Жыл бұрын
I usually stack reverbs on my board. One in front of delay, one after, and sometimes on the amp. Right now, I'm using spring into analog delay into room reverb
@rocky2195 7 ай бұрын
You need more delay bro
@HisRoyalSelf Жыл бұрын
I like you. You're a good egg. I'm glad you exist. Thank you.
@jesussavesrick 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. The popping noise throughout got old though. Could do without them, but amazing content. Thanks again!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Noted! Thanks for watching!
@MYGAS21 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I love the popping noise! My vote is yes to fun popping ....that never ever gets old.
@Thebarbariantruckershow 2 жыл бұрын
I run my reverbs through my effects loop and then my fuzz's, compressor, drives through the guitar. Works the best for me.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@erhnam Жыл бұрын
I have two pedal boards. One has a DD-500 in front of a Trinity using spring or plate and the other one has a Supernatural in front a DD-5 using shimmer type effects. Both works depending on what type of music I play.
@VertexEffectsInc Жыл бұрын
👌👌👌
@salvatoremiele3764 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Doctor! I have a Laney LA30BL head which is great but unfortunately it doesn't have a send/return for effects. I also own the torpedo captor x 16 ohm, can I somehow use it to insert my modulation, reverb and delay effects? I was thinking for example to keep the real cab for distortion and input the modulation channel into the soundcard.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it has a line out that you can feed to the wet effects. However you’ll want something like a cab Zeus or cab M to be the speakers simulation and can sim for the wet side of the signal path.
@crock2434 Ай бұрын
Shoegaze put it before dirt, ambient & drone it can be a pad before delay. Or after delay and a looper. It can go where ever.... I like the jhs octave reverb at a -1 setting before fuzz its like a wall of green ringer like reverb perfect for weirdness.
@damonb.9300 2 жыл бұрын
You rock dude. I am a plain Jane guy. I play my guitars into a crate v1512 with a deluxe memory boy straight in. This video just decided how I want to run my rig
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Great news!
@RobertNolan 2 жыл бұрын
The Fender 6G15 was available from 61-66, this was for models like the Brown Panel Deluxe, Bassman models, Tremolux, and Bandmaster respectively -models that did not have the built in reverb feature. Part of the love that is for the 6G15 style unit is that there was no other tone than to go right in the front of the amp if you wanted it, so you had to work with it as is. It's the Dick Dale surf tone that you're going for if you're looking at it.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Robert, correct, and I don't think anything in this video disputes that - I think you'll agree. I think Dick Dale used a Showman with 2x15's, super clean. That's definitely a sound in and of itself. It would have been nice to use a Spring Reverb tank in this video as well. I have a mid 60's Reverb Tank, but it wasn't functional - we'll have to revisit this later :)
@RobertNolan 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I have the silver panel version with the tubed buffer in it, the reissues have this in their design as well if I'm remembering correctly. I think the take away from this video is that it's important to test wherever possible because you may find a method you really love that's outside of conventionalism. Peace, brother... And get that 6g15 fixed! 🤙 Maybe send it to Colleen Fazio/Fazio Electric?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@RobertNolan I'm working on it...I just need to make the time, I'm like the cobbler whose kids have no shoes :)
@KRAZEEIZATION 2 жыл бұрын
The Boss FRV-1 is pretty good for a modelling unit. I’ve one on my board and always on for nearly 2 years now.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great reverb no doubt!
@iamkennymartin 2 жыл бұрын
The Source Audio Collider is really cool and allows you to easily switch from cascaded to parallel, reverb before delay, etc to test out the different preferences you might have.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we tout the magic of the Collider regularly on this channel! Great pedal!
@iamkennymartin 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc I’ve really loved it so far. The flexibility in routing and the whole aspect of the neuro desktop editor and burning presets from the community is amazing and really easy. I have a small board, and wanted an amp-less option, so I recently swapped out my Source Audio Ventris and Empress Echosystem for a Collider, which gave me room for a Walrus ACS1 for amp-cab sim. The ventris and echosystem are obviously awesome too, but I found myself using about 10% of what they were capable of doing, so the Collider has been a great fit for me. Has plenty of engines still to work with.
@MrLittleblindshakey 2 жыл бұрын
Do any of your observations and comments change relative to an acoustic guitar? I do not often see pedals and pedal placement reviewed and discussed in the context of an acoustic guitar through an amp or PA. Thanks Mason. Very well done video.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Most of this would be the same for acoustic instruments.
@barstia7847 2 жыл бұрын
The hardwire rv7 si the best reverb Ive seen! The plate is just amazing,and gated! And spring!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@ken1davies2 2 жыл бұрын
I sense pedal some re-ordering in my future. Great vid!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
thank Kenneth, hope we earned your subscription!
@ken1davies2 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc You did!
@deletechannel13 2 жыл бұрын
Mason, will you make a video about the hinged riser and how to run cabling from underneath it, where to put tie down mounts and stuff like that?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I think we have several on this already in our rig build videos :)
@geo5772 2 жыл бұрын
As usual Mason, an old dog CAN learn new tricks, thanks for pointing out the in/out on the reverb of the older Fender amps as a means of inserting an effect as opposed to the effects loop on newer amps...
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Geo!
@geo5772 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I can Mason!!
@teedub127 2 жыл бұрын
I've always placed my reverb at the end of the chain. My favorite reverb unit is the 1st version of the Alesis Microverb, it's not a pedal but I use it on my pedal board.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@teedub127 2 жыл бұрын
@@VertexEffectsInc Even nicer, I found it at a Goodwill store for $10.00.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
@@teedub127 Nice!
@franklucas9313 2 жыл бұрын
hello, this is awesome information. I find that pop sound for every single graphic that comes up very distracting almost annoying after the 30th or so one. just my opinion thanks :)
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@playdelay 2 жыл бұрын
You can use certain Fryette attenuators to add an fx loop to many amps... I've wanted to try that out!
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can!
@SystaggerMalakian 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Fender doesnt make the fender reverb tank/unit since quite 5 years ago and its hard to find explaning videos about how to use. Have surfy bear and fender tank and i love them
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@charleswood2182 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff.
@danpugatch 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your videos, I currently run guitar > Tremolo > digital delay > reverb > clean amp that doesn't have FX loop . I'm looking to add overdrive and fuzz just not sure which should be first.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Fuzz closer to guitar generally.
@centauriatacama1794 2 жыл бұрын
If you want grit & sensitivity, fuzzes should go closer, like a fuzz face or I have a Spaceman Sputnik iii which is really touchy. However though I sort of demand a bigger sound. I currently have: sd1->angry charlie v3->hm2w->plumes this then runs into my fuzzes: twin bender->sf300->muffuletta
@oldtimer99 9 ай бұрын
Nice, what are your strat pickups?
@michael_caz_nyc 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. What pickups are in that guitar? ( sounds killer ). It really has that Landau-vibe?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Sonic Pickups: sonicpickups.com/collections/single-coils/products/rattlesnake-specials-texas-blues-hot-wound-single-coil-set
@RyanMcQuen Жыл бұрын
Reverb after delay makes sense in terms of Reverb being an effect that modifies space, Delay is an effect that changes your instrument, just like a Synth or Overdrive pedal. Delay is creating another instrument or a copy of your pure signal, Reverb is changing the space into which that instrument is acoustically represented. I have tried Reverb before other effects for experimentation's sake, but I always prefer it after most effects.
@WickBeavers 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Now can you please explain how a tube works? Can one of the classic ones be simulated? If so, who does a great job simulating a Tumble tube amp? Thanks
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Wick, I'm sure there is a "Tube Doctor" out there that has good videos talking about vacuum tubes! So far, the emulations I've heard all fall short in some way, it's hard to emulate such a high impedance component like a tube which is inherently variable and dynamic in every context and circuit it's used in. This is why tube amps, at least for now, are still king.
@Souldoubtrocks 2 жыл бұрын
I need to watch this 10 times to digest it all. 😂
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Be sure to use the table of contents!
@JOAQUINARMIJO 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the Tremelo located in the pre amp as well? Before the reverb.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
After Reverb after the preamp before the power amp.
@ericleary5075 2 жыл бұрын
At the end unless I use a clean boost at the end, then it’s reverb then boost. I’ve just always done it that way because it sounded good to my ear.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
And thats all that matters, whats sounds best to you! Glad you enjoyed the video Eric!
@MrVesperatu 8 күн бұрын
So, I have a 1956 blackface fender twin reverb, but it doesn't have an effect loop, how do I make it sound like a vintage fender reverb then????
@jaltsch1 2 жыл бұрын
Great topic! Any advice for a no reverb / no FX loop amp using just the pedal and the one amp (no wet/dry or front of house)??? Any way to simulate an FX loop?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't use the cab zeus and a line out in more of a wet/dry context, than just in series is your only choice. I would experiment with delay before reverb vs. delay after reverb so you can see what you like. You can get a mono cab zeus for $100ish on Reverb, and a Bray Line Out box for $50.
@timwhite5562 2 ай бұрын
Is the Strat's tremolo flush or floating? I assume it's floating the way you kind of feather it, but I'm not sure.
@robertw1871 2 жыл бұрын
Live I run the verb last in the effects chain.. tracking I run dry and add the room verb in the mixing process… or I run the amp in a live room and skip all those steps, print it directly with some EQ and call it done…
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@aleksmayer5907 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I am curious about the following: I use a Boss ES-8 Effects Switcher - and I have a TC electronic HOF 2 connected to it so that it is in the effects loop of the ES-8. From the ES-8, I go directly to the inputs of my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III and my Marshall SC20C. But if I understood your video correctly, that would be wrong, right? Or does the ES-8 itself already solve the problem, so that the reverb pedal does not have to be placed after the amp‘s pre-amp anymore?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Aleks, you could put the HOF 2 in the loop of the amps itself.
@galantreentrant 2 жыл бұрын
If I’m running my pedalboard into my radial passive DI straight into my interface, do I need to put a buffer at the end of my pedalboard right before going into the DI box? Or does the DI box also act as a buffer?
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
The cable capacitance will still be present into the DI. A passive DI will still have issues with the tone...depends also on your context.
@tomz1989 2 жыл бұрын
After every possible combination that's what worked best according to my taste and want: Scenario 1: running a dirty/crunchy/overdriven head reverb and delay go into FX loop Scenario 2 : running a clean head mainly as platform pedal, don't bother about FX loop. Whichever your scenario is, my perfect order is reverb>delay as I think it's more organic...try to yell into a valley: reverb first and echoes after. Also interesting running a reverb before OD to get that shoegaze feel.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Nothing wrong with that!
@uyuyuy_bajura 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question!!!! I am now clear of why it makes sense to put the reverb after the preamp on a tube amp. I was wondering if it is also needed in a solid state amp
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
I would do the same with a solid state amp.
@pspbsb 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content, once again. I've always been curious about the location of the Tremolo circuit (or Vibrato) inside a fender amp. Would be after the Reverb ? Cheers!
@adhaskym.a9536 2 жыл бұрын
After reverb.
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! Yes, after reverb.
@tepouogle969 2 жыл бұрын
Hi... I have just been given a Ibanez TSA15H head. It has a fx loop but I've heard its not a normal loop between preamp and amp because theres a built in TS808. I was told the loop sits just after the inbuilt tubescreamer? So what would the effect order be and why would this amp be built this way? Should i run my whole pedalboard through the fx loop? Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks 🙂
@VertexEffectsInc 2 жыл бұрын
Yea...in this case it might be tricky...you might have to experiment.
@georgefromgreece4119 Жыл бұрын
Same thing as in other scenarios. The fx loop is in the right and most common point. Excellent amp.
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