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this video dropped around an hour after my first time biking in the rain - buddy of mine said it's my baptism lol. legs soaked, felt like I was sitting in a puddle of water, got water in my jeans under my thighs. got home soaking wet, doing well.

I don't use the thumb wiper to clear my visor. At decent speed, turning my head to the left for a second and right for a second will blow off the water.

Practiced rain, night, and rain at night extensively in my first couple months. You're right; once you're soaked, you just accept it and keep riding. Seeing through rain at night is insane and not something I'll intentionally do now that I have the experience.

Stuff that's rather slick when wet: Paint stripes Metal grating (drain lids, sewer covers, slatted bridges) Metal rails (as in RR crossings) Wooden surfaces (as in RR crossings) Tar snakes Patches of pavement where the pavers messed up the mixture and made essentially "black ice" out of tar spots. And good word on the "sport-touring" type tires. These tires heat up much quicker to operating grip temperature than "sports" tires, especially in cold temperatures (air and road surface).

"You can't become more wet than totally soaked." 🤔😂🤣

My one and only crash was in the rain when I wasnt even in a corner so Ill stay in the sun thank you very much

I commute into London year round. Goretex is not breathable when it's wet; I use water resistant gear with rain shells over the jacket, trousers and gloves. I've ridden through monsoon levels of rain without getting wet. The other advantage is that the rain shells DRASTICALLY cut the wind chill, especially on the hands. The big risk is not the wet, it's the cold! I run sport touring tyres and have had the rear go sideways on gentle throttle when changing lanes or exiting roundabouts even when it wasn't raining. Be careful when your tyres are cold. I use ceramic coating designed for car paint on my visor. It works really well and should last longer than something like rainx.

Always good to follow in the tire track of a vehicle in front of you. The water has already been pushed away and there is much better contact. This is good to follow in a car as well!

All weather. Rain. Ice. Snow. Honestly though I like heavy, cold rain the least. Heated gear is phenomenal even down to -25C, but once you get wet you're not going to be warm. Got hypothermia once in a trip riding in 9C - not even near freezing - because it was pouring rain.

Literally rode home in a down pour on my Streetfighter V2 after a track day meeting. Up here in the Canadian Rockies it can rain (or snow) any given time. You have more grip than you think - but like Yam says, the rain has no tolerance for your bad decisions and gixer tendencies. It’s rain, respect it and it won’t kill you. One other comment here … if you’re not confident in the rain on your bike, maybe your bike isn’t the right bike. My dual sport ES700 is a demon in the rain and snow and the SFV2 takes some serious attention (it always thinks it’s on track). How is your confidence on dry? If it’s lacking, there’s a sign to build your basic handling skills. I’ve been riding 49 years and never crashed on road … should I even say that out loud? But off road, many times. That’s where skills are really learned and tuned. Food for thought youngsters! Haha

When I was young, I rode my motorcycle to school rain, snow or shine. These days, I ride to enjoy the ride, not fight the elements. I’ll stick with dry road conditions as much as possible.

the biggest thing i learned riding in the rain is to be aware of shit like dirt that returns to mud around driveways and stuff. almost made me eat shit in a parking lot.

oil comes up out of tarnac for first half hour of rain. if you're someplace like California, that can be 6 months worth of oil, turning the riad into a skid pad.

There's a famous 1962 Honda rider manual warning that has six safety warnings. One of them is : Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. Press the brake foot as you roll around the corners, and save the collapse and tie up.

Old grey beard here that happens to own a dual sport amongst several bikes... Rain is easy, snow isn't bad, but ice sucks! No wonder I live in Southern Arizona!

Your videos seem to have perfect timing for me, I finally got another bike after not having one for years, and finally got my actual license and all of them line up with new questions or refreshers that i need

The most dangerous when it starts to rain, and the dust gets slippy. If its washed away after enough rain ,the road is pretty grippy 🙂

As someone who uses my bike for commuting 10+ months out of the year, the deciding factor for whether or not it is "too rainy" is visibility not traction. It's usually not the road but things on top of the road (oil, tar snakes, pavement lines, ect.) that present the greatest risk for slipping on wet pavement, but you can't avoid what you can't see. So long as my visor is clear enough, I can approach the rain much the same as in a car. Control your speed, increase your following/stopping distance, slow down more before corners, and ride on!

Rain riding aint too bad.

It felt good to get my knee down in full wet conditions. It always blew me away that pros could do it. I wasnt doing it every corner, but it did happen during the race and it made me smile.

Having a rain top layer stashed on my bike got me through life with only a motorcycle back in Atlanta. Weekend chain cleaning and cable inspections helped too.

Coming into the rainy season here in Thailand, I've had my bike parked for most rainstorms. Those monsoon rains are no joke. This video came at a perfect time.

Rode from Houston to Austin and it began monsooning on me and my buddy about a quarter a way through. It’s a very tense ride, but don’t panic and don’t make any sudden directional changes, maintain a slower than normal speed and you should be okay..

In my very first riding season, I got a lot of unwanted practice for riding in the rain, we got suprised so many times by sudden rain that year. But it helped, I know how my bikes perform in the rain, and on my second bike I installed Michelin Road 6 Tires, best tires I used in the wet until now.

The most dangerous part is when it just started to rain. The oil and dust float on top of the water, the mud from the road also begins to loosen. Id prefer to ride in the rain if the roads have been soaked for 10-15 minutes as the water and roads are now cleaner.

Michelin Road 6 with 6000k HIDs. Your bike will feel amazing in the heat, cold, rain ect

I support everything put out in this video it's good information for new riders and a helpful review for experienced riders. Riding a motorcycle on a clean wet road you can brake harder than you might think. You can also corner faster than you might think. What you should never do in the rain is brake and turn at the same time.

I was fortunate enough that my safety course had some rain at the same time. I was able to experience riding in the rain for the first time, as a beginner, and it is remarkable how well your bike will handle in wet conditions. Definitely gave me extra confidence, not only for riding in the rain, but extra confidence in that I can trust the bike will maintain traction while cornering, especially in dry conditions.

I did my rider course in the rain 😅 2 days getting drenched. Good times

When its heavy rain and the headlight start reflecting back on me. Its time for me to stop riding

Some of my first longer journeys on my motorcycle involved unintentional rain riding and I have been comfortable ever since. Be smooth and be cool... not that you have a choice, you are likely going to get soaked through so embrace it.

Great job yammie as always a great vid bro

Took the MSF course 2 weeks ago, bought my new royal enfield from the dealership, immediately started commuting to work. (I rode dirt bikes as a kid) 6 out of the 8 days I drove to work I had to worry about rain. bonus tips: carry a pair of WOOL socks in your backpack to replace once you get to your destination. the scram 411 scrambler tires work really well in the rain. make sure you have a scarf to block rain from going into your full face helmet.

Great advice. I’m in the UK so spend more time that I’d like on wet roads and everything you’ve said is bang on. Great video.

Good video as always, good advice. When I was learning I deliberately stayed out and waited for a rain storm so I could ride home in the wet. It hosed down when I did my unrestricted test and the instructor praised my wet riding. Apparently some folks almost stop. However I am largely a dry day rider. If there are storm clouds on horizon I head for the cage. However it is important to be confident,. You will get caught out one day...

great video, summed it up real nice. For Europe of course, we have the cobblestones in the old city centers, that are near impossible to ride in the wet.

In louisiana/mississippi gulf riding in the rain is part of life. It rained during both days of my msf.

My truck was in the shop for a week so I was riding my Drz400 with knobbies across town to work in the rain. Everything you said is true, take your time and always think about traction and you'll be ok. A garbage bag cut at the bottom and side completely covers my bike, poke a hole on each side for your break levers and tuck it in the seat and your bike stays dry.

When I was 18 my motorcycle was my only mode of transportation so I had my share of rain riding and that was on 80's tire technology. In fact I hit some pretty hard rain the 1st week and that made me start wearing full face helmets for the rest of my riding life until I stop. The rain felt like needles sticking me in the face. You're not going to knee drag unless you have some rain slicks but, you still have pretty good traction in the rain once all the oils have washed off the road. You can usually see that on the first rains of the season. I have never owned a bike with rider aids and never had issues in the rain.

I rode through a tropical storm in Florida on a Kawasaki Vulcan with zero ABS. Storm came out if nowhere or i just didnt watch the weather when i left for work that day Key, dont go too fast, stay calm, and pray the wind doesnt push you to the next lane

My first riding in the rain experience was on the way to Deals Gap. My buddies and I ran into a down pour, road for 2 hours in the rain, soaked to the bone, but I was surprised at how well my SV 650s handled in the wet. Of course, over years I've ridden in snow on the same bike so yeah, be patient, don't be foolish, think and stay safe out there.

There is rain, and there is rain.. have been through downpours where your boots fill up.. also going through floods might be an adventure but it's pretty hairy and unpleasant as the mucky water gets in your kit. But I think getting caught out in the rain and riding till you dry out does make your leathers mold to your body quite nicely. If they were not made to measure before they might feel more so after.😊

Im a new rider and this is great information thank you very much

Got caught out in heavy rain after just breaking in my 2023 RC390. Went like heck to beat it home but it caught me 20 miles out. I was pleasantly surprised at the performance of the cornering traction controll and ABS W/ the Continental Road Attack tires. Not one sketchy moment.

Flashing back to the battle between Rossi and Stoner in the rain. Epic.

Input is almost everything from my experience in the english winter. I ride 1995 CBR600Fsport, it had poor brakes and tires(i just got my license and the bike), but i went out nevertheless and i had good experience. However, i enjoyed my bike a lot more and felt a lot safer once i got it properly maintained. Always maintain your bike and always wear your gear 🤘

another good TIP regarding motorcycle maintenance. is having your clutch cable tuned properly... if you've got no play in your clutch, basically no "slip zone" and its either ALL or nothing. makes it very hard to do slo-speed rain riding.

The thing that catches you out in the rain are the things that can suddenly reduce grip like painted lines, metal covers and worst of all, diesel spills. Following the tire tracks of cars can help because they act to scrub the road clean after rain.

I commute in SouthWales UK. Here we have much more than a fair share of rain.. My Suzuki 1050 deals with the conditions, especially with modern riding aids, just fine and experience counts, learn to embrace all conditions and adjust your style. I wear Oxford touring gear and British Army Goretex waterproofs..

I live in Oregon and ride all year long pretty much every day commuting. Rain rides account for at least 1/3 of my riding. I even ride when it's below freezing if it's dry out, which in the winter here happens more often than you'd think. You just have to slow down, leave room, and keep alert for hazards.

like 80% of my rides here in central EU are in my "rain gear." Because it doesn't stop just water but also, wait for it, wind and (hence) cold thus hugely widening temperature range I'm ok to ride in. I literally ride in that gear every day to work, 10 months a year, it might be near 0 in the morning, foggy and raining and a sunny afternoon later that day, and I am comfortable on both occasions. My most often used rain gear is - my Held jacket with baked in GoreTex layer (because it was discounted, has some hi viz stripes but not over the top, works like a charm, it has vents for hot weather and when it's really hot, I use different jacket), - Decathlon sailing overpants over my Rev'it riding jeans (cheap, durable and take almost no space in my bag) - my tall Dainese waterproof boots (there's just no substitute to tall boots as your feet ultimately get all the water from heavens, your body, the road, your wheels, other vehicles... so wet down there...) and British Army surplus Gore Tex mittens (called "DPM MVP" best value for money piece of gear EVER) over my regular perforated leather motorcycle gloves. These mittens also cover huge chunk of my forearm. Combined with heated grips, really don't need anything else. Alright I can't use just two fingers for levers but seriously, I don't care for that when it rains at all. Also british camo can be a downside, YMMV, I'm fine with that. I also have heavier and lighter options in my closet: - goretex overpants (for serious, looong and soaked rides or really stormy days. But day to day, my sailing overpants are easier to live with) - Oxford rain jacket (for hot summer days when I wear my mesh jacket, I throw this into my bag. Becomes handy when I stay somewhere until late and now it's cold and it will keep me nice and cozy.) - some more boots, ventilated ones when I'm like "ok, so I might get soaked, who cares..." and even more boots because I'm a boot junkie. Point of this looooong post: keep it light and variable, find what works for you, think out of the box, it can save you a ton of cash and actually work better, especially if and when you commute!! Also, thanks Papa Yam, love your channel!

My first storm happened about 2 months into my riding career and while I very-efficiently got drenched (it took two days for my gear to be usable again), it wasn't nearly as scary or difficult as i had been told before i got my bike.

Back in 2017 I bought an Indian Springfield. One of the things that ended up as a recall on those big Indians was a breather pipe for the charcoal canister. When riding in rain it would sometimes feed water into the fuel system and cause motor problems. One of the forum members was telling of his experience when it started happening on his bike and before it was a known problem. The Indian workshop guy listened to the problem and said, "Normal people don't ride in the rain."

I had to ride in the rain to work today. My only issue was my visor fogging up. Simply leaving it slightly cracked open was enough to restore visibility.

My first track day was under a downpour. Hitting a max of 120mph and scared as hell, definitely learned to be smooth on the throttle.

i started riding in autumn so my first few months riding was predominately rain, I prefer riding in rain than in a hot clear day.

Summer time in Florida the rain can be refreshing. It rains nearly every afternoon in some areas and it will cool you off in 90 + weather.

Rain gets easier each time. I was in it 3 hours strait a few weeks ago. The storms we've been having in texas with all the wind and hail are a no go. I don't mind riding through the rain if it has an end, I just don't like all day rain.

I rode my KLR year-round in the midwest and there was only 2 weather conditions that scared the shit out of me.1 was when the roads were icy because ice, and the other was heavy rain, but not because of the rain specifically, but when I would need to ride over the white crosswalk lines while I turned in the rain. I never lost traction in rain and always maintained a safe distance from other cars so I never worried about how wet it was, but the ONE time I did lose traction, I was mid-turn and my back tire slipped on a white crosswalk line, that scared the shit out of me, luckily I was able to adjust and keep upright but that slip still freaked me out more than anything, I'm happy I took motorcycle safety classes or else idk if I woulda known how to react and keep the bike up

Year round western Washington rider here. Pin lock visor and hippo hands are a must ❤

Another great and insightful video! After finding your newest ride, items 2 and 3 should always be tires and gear. There's something about the smell of rain coming off asphalt that sends me out to ride. Some of the real old timers (I'm 58) act like we're still riding on 90 year old square Firestones that would slip out on the spit from a mouthful of chewing tobacco but boy have times and technology changed. My 2022 CFMOTO came with Pirelli MT60 RS tires which were fantastic in the rain but even considering their highly affordable price I got less than 8k miles from two sets and the rising cost of installation $160 +$20 because I didn't buy them from my local shop I can't afford to go through 3-5 installations a year. I switch up to Dunlop Road Smart IIIs with a mfg date of Feb 2024 but I don't feel they stand up well enough for total comfort and I find myself switching over to ECO mode for a less spunky throttle. I don't know what I'll be installing next but I will be doing plenty of research ahead of time. Any heavy rain tested tire suggestions would be greatly appreciated. As for rain gear, well I'm not exactly pleased with the majority of sub $400 items and I believe that's because the engineers/designers didn't use their own designs in real world riding beofre full product rollout!! Most rain gear will have rear facing shields for pockets and zippers which is absolutely useless for anyone not riding a 900lb cruiser with rear fenders scraping the pavement. My CL-X 700 along with most sport bikes and the large population of bobbers currently on the road have no proper rear fender which leaves us soaked because the rear wheel is flinging water forward into those unprotected zippers and seams as fast as you are traveling. And, as you pointed out you can only be wet or dry. There's absolutely no worse feeling than a wet midsection to pair with soaked feet and nothing to change into when you arrive at your destination. I can recommend that if you are close to a physical Cycle Gear store they have a 90 day return policy. In print it says items must be in new unused condition, but I've returned many used gloves. jackets, and shoes after discovering they weren't waterproof or warm enough. Don't have Cruise Control but don't want to spend a bunch on aftermarket kits or throttle locks? The flathead guys taught the panhead guys to carry a pocket full of wooden matches. Once soft from chewing they could be stuck into the throttle to keep it in place. The panhead guys taught me to cut up $5 bicycle inner tubes into knotted thin strips. They are just think enough to slide between the throttle and switch housing to stay in place, but not too thick to be a problem if you have to slow down in a hurry. Keep those odometers spinning!!

My first ride after getting my license was on wet roads. I now know what it feels like to have your rear tire geeeently stepping out when applying the throttle. I got out fine without crashing, but it was a bit scary.

Living in Charlotte, even riding in the dry is sketchy!

I had Avon Xtreme Rainracer tires on my Kawasaki Concours, and they were excellent. Even in the heaviest rain, you felt like you were riding on rails.

Another piece of gear to have? A scarf. It might not be waterproof, but bunched up around your neck if you're caught without some kind of protection will at least save you from getting water down your jacket. I had one when we had a sudden cold snap in April and it was sleeting out, I didn't have my full face helmet with me (the weather said cloudy that night), but the scarf was nice to not only protect my neck from the cold, it also worked as a deflector to cover my mouth from the little stinging pellets. It also works well in light rain, but if it's a total downpour, it might not be as good.

id say, the only issue is visibility. Even with car its hard to see, wipers running on max. But with motorcycle you have no windshield wipers.

Instead of rain x, go to the dollar store and get LA Totally Awesome, use on both sides of the visor and acts as an incredible anti fog and rain repellent on the outside. One bottle is a few bucks for years of use.

So funny I fell asleep while watching this last night and was awakened by the ending

2 years ago my buddy and I got caught In a horrible rain storm! It was so bad I couldn't see anything! We were going 40 on a 100 zone.. no more rain for me.

My first bike had a overused rear tire, replaced it with a new Michelin Road 4, thing was a dream in the rain. Literally could ride the same as the dry(obviously at full to half tread), and gave me full confidence in the tire. I remember slipping once at speed during a downpour, and it corrected itself in under a second, just ride like normal. A lot of research goes into tires!

First night I got my bike on the road it was a torrential downpour and me and my bro rode to the gym and back. I squeezed probably a gallon of water out of my pants when I got home, I was so scared! Riding that gs1100 scrambler that felt like an absolute monster with dim headlights through whipping wind and rain. Bad idea, but I made it! Rode in the rain again this evening, a couple months later.

Did this yesterday. Just like you said, just keep riding and accept you're wet. I looked forward to toweling off when I got home. Also I saw two other bikers riding on the same highway. One rode sans helmet- Ouch. The rain can feel like little needles hitting you when you're at speed, lol

I started on asphalt, so I did not have the awareness of traction control that dirt riders already have. I learned traction control in the rain. It definitely boils down to chilling out and being impatient. I have written countless miles in the rain. As I have gotten older, I try to time my rides to avoid rain, but it's really only rain at night that keeps me off the road, and that applies to driving cars as well.

My MSF endoresemwnt level course was in the pouring rain. I was surprised at how much grip I had during the tight maneuvers.

Here in Middle Tennessee we get 120 days of rain per year. Been riding 20 years so it doesn't bother me now too much with gear. The only thing that sucks is when the rain comes in so can the heavy wind gusts.

For about 6 months I had the distinct displeasure of riding 60 mi round trip to work everyday from fall until spring in Colorado. It is not a fond memory. We could start in rain and within 20 minutes in sub-freezing conditions and have to knock ice off of ourselves. Last few years I've been very lucky that I haven't had to put up with the rain. Which is lucky because I have not found a rain suit that works for me. Unless I cut it apart and completely remake it to fit.

been riding for 4 months now (including MSF course) and So far i've been in drizzles but never actual rain, and TBH I hope that streak continues for a while because the idea of riding in the rain with my limited experience as a rider, kinda scares me. like getting passed by a simi-truck going 80 in a 60 zone.

I have literally ridden through a hurricane before and it was not fun. But when I used to live in Florida I rode a Harley with no front fender. Talk about interesting.

I live in the south of England. When I first bought my current bike in 2017, I was committing to riding for work, as I handed back a crappy company car that was fleecing me with the monthly salary sacrifice and car tax benefit every year. Every day was a great day, come rain, shine, ice and snow. In two years, I dropped the bike once into a snowdrift near Chipping Norton. It hurt my pride as a trucker, with rigger boots, had to stop and help me onto my feet and the bike onto it's chewy bits. Learnt a lot about riding in adverse weather conditions, starting with Oxford waterproofs being shit. Honda OEM heated grips are the shit. Pin lock visor works well until it suddenly doesn't, as materials flex at different temperatures. Found I could enjoy rides at minus 10ºC (I fitted a digital thermometer to the bike as I needed heads-up on the potential for ice on the road), though you had to ride to the conditions. And F! me. The Cotswolds are freezing around the A40, with the blast of icy air as you're the tallest thing out in the open. Bike... Halfrica Twin. Chewy bits, Battlax T31.

Almost went down. Was making a left turn from a red light, so luckily not going fast or leaning. Rear went over a tar snake and noticeably slipped. Was able to maintain control but turning any faster or leaning more, i would have went down.

funny this video came out today when i was riding in the rain today. almsot went down when lost traction going past a crosswalk

I keep a rain top and bottom in my bike's rear bag. Stays with it. Im in one of those places where you can't trust the weather guy. I commute everyday... storm or not.

In Canada, I rode 235 miles in cold rain, then sleet, snow, more rain, the sunshine, again more rain. I used Yokohama rubber and they worked great! Just reduce speed when you feel slight hydroplaning, still riding around 50mph, even around corners. Our highways were mostly 2 lanes in those days. Had Dunlop on my 750 Honda, worst rubber ever. Too hard and stiff. Rode a few different bikes in my 43 year run, worse was a BMW shaft drive, tended to lean severely when applying power, nicest was the Honda Shadow, shaft drive, different design that eliminated the side sway. Unfortunately, motor wasn’t the best.

My take on for riding in the rain is to trust the tires. 3 things to keep in mind tho 1: Leaves, white lines and manhole covers are slippy even with the best new rain/water tires 2: Avoid excessive lean angle. Most tires don't have any rain grooves near the edge of the tire. If you catch a patch of deeper water and have no where to drain that, it could slip very quickly and uncontrollably 3: Tread depth. That silica rich compound won't save you if you have like 1.6mm of tread left

I have hundreds of hours riding in Oregon, Washington rain....................There are a lot of Great Tips in this video........There are times when I employ my vast riding experience when I look outside and say fuggit, I ain't doing it!

Thank GID there is no snow where I leave and my choice of transportation is a bike so I love everything you said here👌👌👌👌👌

I got caught in a heavy thunderstorm on my '09 R6 several years back and besides getting soaked, it was fine. Actually, I think it was a valuable experience and I think all bikers would benefit from riding in the rain at least once. Gives you a different perspective to the sport.

I ride in rain so much i consider myself semi aquatic. Just keep your head, keep your brakes warm and keep your eyes open.

After I got soaked the first time I rode in the rain, I bought rain gear. Now, the only problem I have is having to go slower than normal.

My road bike only comes out on nice days from April until October. Then it sits in the living room along with my YZ.I have a Subaru for the rain and such. I'll ride dirt bikes in any weather.

As someone who's been daily driving a motorcycle for a few years, I've only had a single situation where I felt unsafe in the rain... It was the worst kind of evening twilight and HEAVY clouds in the sky, resulting in it being basically pitch black outside of that my bike's headlights could light up. Then when adding heavy rain to the visor, and the occational semi-deep water-puddle on the road... I was not in a happy place. My most vivid memory of that evening was going through one of said puddles and feeling the bike hydraplaning for a split second, sliding in the buttom of the farings, throwing water all the way up to my knees... So yeah... do a Yammie says, and add some form of nano-coat to your visor... at least you'll be able to see when you're fucked.

Slid 6 days ago in the rain 😭😭 bad rear tire definitely was the problem no serious injuries and the bike was ok really a wake up call

I have rode in the rain many times. I never had an issue with tire grip, but shoe grip is a different story. Shoe choice can make a huge difference when you have to put a foot down.

My front tire hydroplaned at 70 mph riding through a thunderstorm in 1983. Handlebars went full lock to the right & I stomped the road to stay upright until I slid to a stop. The car in front of me turned left just as I slid past. I haven't ridden in rain since. I know tire technology has changed drastically since 1983 but my instincts tell me no go.

I don't own a car just 2 motorbikes so yes this is very important info for wet riding, good video

I like riding all weather as the challenge improves my riding skills.

On a dual sport with dunlops. I can 100 percent say i lose half my traction soon as i hit that water. I have almost layed it down a couple times . Water sucks.

Bro knows the homies fell asleep watching youtube and the algorithm brought us to him. I was already awake. but now I definitely am. 🤣

I actually really enjoy riding in the rain, especially at night. Everything gets reduced to looking like a vector-graphics video game, and it, 'tightens up' all the throttle, braking, and steering skills required, challenges me to be the best, smoothest rider I can be. The only time I ever lost traction was accelerating in a turn, when my rear wheel ran over a manhole cover -- another thing that gets really slick when wet. The rear wheel just slid a few inches, then regained grip once it was on pavement again. Really predictable, since I was being smooth and controlled on the throttle.