The truth about the LOST F-35: DEBUNKING the conspiracies

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9 ай бұрын

Last Sunday, a Marine Corps F-35 crashed over South Carolina under seemingly mysterious circumstances. The pilot, who has not been identified, was forced to eject for unknown reasons, but the aircraft didn’t simply crash immediately after as one might expect. Instead, the $100 million stealth fighter continued flying for about 60 miles before ultimately crashing near Indiantown, South Carolina.
In the days since a wave of conspiracy theories about this mishap have hit the internet. Was the pilot ejected by a rogue AI? Did China hack America's best stealth fighter?
Let's pick the craziest theories apart.
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@markmatsushima7356 9 ай бұрын

The F-106 in the 1970 incident (aka Cornfield Bomber) righted itself after the pilot ejected and continued on for some distance in a gentle descent eventually belly landing itself in a snow covered farmer's field. It was found by the local Sheriff with its engines powered up and seemingly self-taxiing to a parking spot, finally running out of fuel about an hour and a half later. So little damage was incurred that the recovery crew literally hoisted up on a flatbed to take back to base. After relatively minor repairs it was placed back into full service. The pilot who ejected was able to fly it again in 1979. The aircraft now resides at the National Museum of the Air Force.

@briandreggors9178 9 ай бұрын

@@Bob-lq6dtThe pilot found himself and what he felt at the time was an unrecoverable flat spin. He ejected and the shift in weight from the lack of pilot and ejection seat and also the ejection itself put the plane into a nose down dive from which it aerodynamically recovered on its own

@B.D.E. 9 ай бұрын

That's hilarious, what are the chances?!

@timtrewyn453 8 ай бұрын

Stranger than fiction.

@scottjurrjens8954 8 ай бұрын

@@timtrewyn453fiction needs inspiration from somewhere 😂

@sd906238 8 ай бұрын

His wingman was heard saying over the radio "Hey Gary you better get back into that thing".

@KnotheadRuss 9 ай бұрын

As a retired FAA "center" controller, I want to say that Alex's explanation of how the xponder works and why the xponder was off were very well researched and totally accurate. A "standard formation" requires that the lead aircraft keep all aircraft in the formation within one mile of the lead. The controller then separates the flight by 6 miles (rather than the standard 5 miles) from all other aircraft. Only the lead aircraft will squawk the discrete (assigned) code and all other aircraft in the flight squawk standby (off). This is to keep the "conflict alert" from activating which sets off a visual alert on the controller's scope, which in this case would be a distraction from his/her other duties. It gets more complicated for refueling flights and non-standard flights but for a basic standard flight, Alex's explanation is right on the money.

@AquaeAtrae 9 ай бұрын

Agreed. That was an unexpected but entirely sensible point. Thanks for the added details.

@markmitchell457 9 ай бұрын

It's the same reason Walmart couldn't develop RFID check out counters that would handle a whole basketful of RFID identified goods. Multiple simultaneous returns. Bad JuJu Buana for data collection purposes.

@Dyson_Cyberdynesystems 9 ай бұрын

I was just about to post this. The civilian systems aren't designed to account for military operations and since ATC likely cannot disable collision alerts for specific aircraft (probably by design) having the wingmen strangle their parrots is a work-around.

@frankymuthiani7000 8 ай бұрын

As a former controller,what are doing to help the government to get the jet back?

@tingbase84 9 ай бұрын

Within a few days you've put together a high quality 26 minute video analysing the facts, hats off

@philipbahia2707 9 ай бұрын

I totally agree 👍🏾

@joeyglasser2574 9 ай бұрын

tin foil hats off*

@liquidpatriot4480 9 ай бұрын

Agreed, unlike the media this guy uses actual facts. He's ten times the journalist without trying 😂

@ncgunrunner2588 5 ай бұрын

That is because this video was produced by military as a disinfo campaign.

@leehill9922 9 ай бұрын

Even a non-stealthy fighter aircraft with ADS-B turned off would be very difficult to track by ATC, especially at low altitude. So an F-35 is pretty much impossible.

@WembysTRexArms 8 ай бұрын

Which is why is wingman should have stuck with the aircraft. Call the eject. Check for good chute. Relay the position. Track the rogue jet to assist first responders. (Check fuel, bad. Ask for guidance, get none. Use that lovely little link to steer it to a safe crash spot in field of an otherwise populated area.)

@Monarch683 8 ай бұрын

Bad weather made all of that impossible. You can’t just magically remote control military equipment like that as well. Datalink is mainly for sharing information. Don’t think that everything you see about the military in the movies is true.

@WembysTRexArms 8 ай бұрын

@@Monarch683 What's a control input in a fly-by-wire system? It ain't direct actuation of hydraulic systems. Nah, b. Its data sharing. -- And there was no weather. Just a few clouds.

@matthewfors114 8 ай бұрын

@@WembysTRexArms it was bad weather though. what are you talking about?

@WembysTRexArms 8 ай бұрын

@@matthewfors114 "Weather." Clear, 75 degrees, 7mph NW wind. YUP, that is definitely weather. Very good flying weather.

@informationcollectionpost3257 9 ай бұрын

I glad that most of the aircraft worked as promised and that the pilot is okay. During WW2 finding qualified and trained pilots was more difficult than finding or having an available plane for them to fly in.

@AA-Ashley 9 ай бұрын

Agreed, also kind of funny that the dumb politician ran her mouth and threw the military under the bus for no reason, just because she is ignorant of their systems.

@redrust3 9 ай бұрын

I’ve known a lot of guys who already had private pilot licenses before enlisting. They were immediately assigned to nfantry, or some other MOS. On the other hand, Japan was producing the 100 best naval aviators a year prior to World War Two, with a high washout rate. At Midway and Coral Sea, they lost 600 in four weeks, and never recovered. By the time my uncles enlissted, they were down to the bottom of the barrel. Two were kamikaze, with a few dozen flight hours. One took off and was never heard from again. The other was awaiting assignment when the war ended. A third was waiting for enough fuel for a one-way trip to Okinawa. He was to fight for as lng as possible before finding a suitable target to crash nto.

@timothyunderwood7880 9 ай бұрын

For $100 million dollars, you would think the transponder would automatically turn on during an ejection. How difficult would that have been to program into the system? #MilitaryFail

@Kenny-yl9pc 9 ай бұрын

@@timothyunderwood7880 The question is, whether that transponder can result in a weakness exploited by an enemy. Meaning, when a pilot ejects over the ocean or somewhere else, where the US does not necessarily have control over, could that transponder be used to locate it by the enemy, and then get it before the US? I don't know that, I am merely thinking about potential reasons as to why they chose not to program it that way. They have thought about that, you can be sure of that. Like Alex stated, in 600.000 flight hours it happened once, so is it really beneficial to do something about it, which can be exploited, or cost a lot of resources etcetera? I don`t think so.

@AA-Ashley 9 ай бұрын

tell the enemy where our pilot ejected automatically?@@timothyunderwood7880

@arizonaexplorations4013 9 ай бұрын

I was told by an old ground crew guy that they “misplaced” an entire flight of F-117 when someone forgot to place the reflectors on them after landing. Not sure this actually took place, but it supposedly took place in Desert Storm and brought flight ops to a standstill until they were found on the taxiway. You spent $100 million of our tax dollars to make a plane practically invisible and then get mad when you can’t find it. I’d be more mad if they did find it! At least the jet does the thing we all paid our tax dollars to do! LOL

@RATTL3R186 9 ай бұрын

Sounds about correct. Only can the military lose 100 of millions of dollars worth of planes lol.

@davedixon2068 9 ай бұрын

The F117 was mostly invisible to RADAR it wasn't invisible in the sense you cant see it. At Farnborough Airshow a Rapier AA missile system comfortably tracked the F117 and B2 during their displays, (it used visual tracking).

@arizonaexplorations4013 8 ай бұрын

@@davedixon2068 was able to get ahold of the guy. Not nearly as dramatic as I had remembered. It was 1991, two F-117 had just landed at the blacked out airbase and taxied off the runway. They sat there waiting for orders. The controller apparently couldn’t physically see them in the dark and they didn’t show on the ground tracking. One of the pilots got tried of waiting for orders and called the controller. Problem resolved by the F-117 turning on their lights. The guy telling me this was apart of the ground crew. Seems possible but I wasn’t there.

@matthewfors114 8 ай бұрын

@@davedixon2068 it was fairly invisible at night cause it was painted black and the night is black

@davedixon2068 8 ай бұрын

@@matthewfors114 where does it say it was night time?

@user-qd6nn6sj5v 9 ай бұрын

This is absolutely crazy, that people are actually mad because a stealth aircraft specifically designed to be hard to detect on radar., couldn't be tracked by ATC. And the other part of this that everyone seems to overlook is that there is a emergency locator function for the aircraft part of the ejection system and if that is not triggered by either the pilot or the ejection system itself , it makes the aircraft hard to find, for both search and rescue,and crash investigators. This literally proved the concept of stealth works, if ATC couldn't find it. Martin Baker crew Survival Systems saved another pilot again. The biggest question is why the onboard ADS-B transponder never went to emergency mode, and that is the real question, as well as there a onboard system failure engines/ Avionics.. out of nearly 1,000 F35 produced so far, for the United States, and other countries less than 10 have been lost in training mishaps. Everybody needs to just take their foot off the gas., and actually let the Marine aircraft accident investigators, Lockheed Martin engineers do the job they're paid for,and put out initial as well as final reports with actual answers

@JudgeDillon 9 ай бұрын

Most other countries can track F-35s by the way, just not obtain weapon's grade lock. But yeah our domestic air defense is either a joke or non existent. Cool!

@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND 9 ай бұрын

They'll say ANYTHING to get attention, anything.

@kevadu 9 ай бұрын

@@JudgeDillon He literally talks about this in the video. I guess you didn't watch it...

@JudgeDillon 9 ай бұрын

@@kevadu I watched it, the idea we can't even begin to track an F-35 with it's fucking canopy REMOVED is absurd.

@SCH292 9 ай бұрын

@@JudgeDillon Lol. I bet you didn't even watch the video ALL THE WAY. You stopped at a certain part of the video.

@flyjets 9 ай бұрын

I'm a retired A-10 driver and this analysis was superb. Well done Alex.

@williamrunner6718 8 ай бұрын

Me being a former Mech. Infantryman, there's no other aircraft I appreciate more than the good ole A-10!

@J.C... 8 ай бұрын

:salute: 👌 we used to have A10s around here at Barksdale AFB back in the day. 917th Fighter Group.

@erasmus_locke 9 ай бұрын

If you haven't heard the 911 call of the homeowner who found the pilot please listen to it, it's hilarious 😂😆

@mr_brass_monkey 9 ай бұрын

😂 thx it's gold I've got a pilot in my house

@kennethng8346 9 ай бұрын

Oh what a LAUGH, "how far did you fall?" His back hurts, well yeah having a rocket blow you out of an airplane and compressing your spine by an inch or two would do that. 😀😀😀

@MattH-wg7ou 9 ай бұрын

Hahaaa thanks for that! That was hilarious she was so confused 🤣

@ronald3836 9 ай бұрын

Pilot: "Where am I?" Guy: "Earth".

@kennethng8346 9 ай бұрын

@@MattH-wg7ou In her defense, guy ejected from fighter jet is probably not an option in the training script. 🙂

@nexpro6118 9 ай бұрын

Love this channel. He uses common sense and facts and evidence. He doesn't use personal, biased feelings and views to push his own views as fact

@airlemental 9 ай бұрын

Being a pilot, and seeing the original report on the loss, I felt there was a good chance they might not find it for years, if ever. The fact they found it so quickly is good fortune. I know how much work it is to find a normal, trackable, non military plane, that DID have a working transponder on when they go down. When I saw your video and was hoping there might be an update on HOW they found it, I was not expecting that you were going to have to dispel so many completely unreasonable and ridiculous theories. Thank You very much for putting out solid, reliable information, and for the update on just how many wild internet ideas were making the rounds. Evidently I'm already pretty good at avoiding them since there were several I hadn't heard of. Hackers pulling a Neuromancer on one of our super jets to remote fly it to Cuba...wow, ok, but I did get a really good laugh. I appreciate that.

@chhansen9813 9 ай бұрын

LOL! Youre not a pilot, drones dont count, clown! He just made some of that stuff up for content for the video! You people are so gullible!

@anac3652 8 ай бұрын

Was looking for this comment for a while, its amazing how unknown of a world basic vfr flying can be to people who dont participate, much less understand how aircraft interact with the airspace

@bobnomura2068 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your research. I laughed when I heard a congressional representative asked what I thought was a dumb question, "why couldn't the plane be tracked?"

@Steamrunner 9 ай бұрын

These are the same people who say an AR-15 weighs as much as 10 boxes that you might be moving, or believe suppressors are whisper fart quiet, or the island will tip over. At no point did someone who wrote the founding documents think they need to place some level of common sense or require research before speaking on a matter.

@AA-Ashley 9 ай бұрын

Hahaha so glad i'm not the only one who laughed hard at that.

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 9 ай бұрын

I wanted to laugh, till I realized they were elected to office & vote on important issues. Then I just got really sad..

@nekopop8159 9 ай бұрын

It’s a very simple question. Basically to get a straightforward answer.

@liquidpatriot4480 9 ай бұрын

Idiots run our country, we are so screwed 😅

@ExUSSailor 9 ай бұрын

It's so typical that, after everybody hating on this aircraft, saying, "it doesn't work", now, they're all mad when it does, in fact, do exactly what it was designed to do, be difficult to track.

@arizonaexplorations4013 9 ай бұрын

Typical Karen. I gave you $100 million for a stealth aircraft!!! I want to talk to your manager!! Why can’t I find my stealth aircraft!! This is all YOUR fault! Why couldn’t you make it easier to track!! I should have gone to McDonald Douglas! My F-15E never just disappeared! How do you explain that!! Huh? Well just wait till you here from my law…… Conversation ended by missile fired from stealth Blackhawk.

@mr.normalguy69 9 ай бұрын

Legends say that F-35 is now with Tupac Shakur.

@rowanhaigh8782 9 ай бұрын

The data from how the aircraft kept itself in the air would be super-interesting in terms of what specific actions the plane took to stay airborne for as long as it did. Super-interesting, but super-classified, too!😂

@michaelatkinson8434 9 ай бұрын

As always you are crisp, concise, clear and convincing. Your assertions are always well-researched and -sourced. Thank you.

@BilgePump 9 ай бұрын

Actually Alex according to highly placed administration officials who wish to remain anonymous, citizens reported seeing a F 35 enveloped by a huge balloon and carried off by Gamera. The huge flying turtle seems to only respond to Cantonese. A cute little Chinese-American boy has apparently befriended the strange beast and F 100 supersonic fighter jets are rushing him to the scene.

@curtisgetchel2333 9 ай бұрын

Thank you, well thought out and very informative. Keep up the work you do.

@paulbrouyere1735 9 ай бұрын

Great video on this F35B. When I heard first I thought it was a joke. When I realized it wasn’t, I was happy the pilot got out well. It must be really well designed to be so stealth that no one could find it for some time. I heard the sonic booms of the 2 F15’s chasing the MIG over Belgium. RIP to the boy that died in that incident. He had just finished his exams and was sleeping out.

@dystopianlucidity4448 9 ай бұрын

If my understanding of low frequency radar is correct (doubtful), you still need to know where to look for a stealth aircraft. If I recall the way an F117 was shot down, they were flying regular routes on a regular basis, giving the enemy a chance to look for a “hole” in the air and send a missile to those faint signals.

@JSFGuy 9 ай бұрын

Low frequency can detect something in the area just not well enough to track and therefore attack. They were playing a good game of cat and mouse that did eventually pay off.

@duncanidaho2097 9 ай бұрын

Yes the Serbs had spies around the air base who radioed in exactly when the F117s would take off, and they knew the route(unchanged by the brilliant AF planners) and time of flight so they knew pretty much when they would be overheard. Plus the AA commanding officer was really clever.

@dystopianlucidity4448 9 ай бұрын

@@duncanidaho2097 thanks for the input, better answers some of the questions I personally had about that event.

@unicaller1 9 ай бұрын

The USAF made a lot of mistakes, exact same routes no EWAR coverage due to weather. It still took some creativity and a lot of luck to shoot that F117 down. The F117 was preparing to drop so the bay doors were open when the SAM commander had them turn on the radar. Targeting radars were generally off to avoid them being detected and destroyed.

@dystopianlucidity4448 9 ай бұрын

@@unicaller1 that’s interesting. Thanks for the insight. It was a crazy time. I was young when the f117 was shot down.

@RobertSearles-qj5jd 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for an informed, honest and timely explanation of what probably happened.

@TitoPLLE4444 8 ай бұрын

Wow man!! The amount of work and info you put into this is amazing!! I learned a lot from this vid, thank you for all the effort you put into it.

@realdreamerschangetheworld7470 9 ай бұрын

The “Hacking from McDonald’s Wi-Fi” line made me crack up 😂

@dougbinenti6846 8 ай бұрын

THANK YOU very much Alex. Based on the info you’ve provided we can look towards this event through the lens of verifiable facts rather than the conjectures of the moment.

@pastorrich7436 9 ай бұрын

Why did it fail? A question that takes me back to a MoD project I was an engineer on. HDD failures in a fielded test system had been reported, for which I was tasked to investigate. In a greater interview, I found that field personnel were known to "tap" the control systems...meaning they were kicking the server racks with their boots. The issues were not successfully reproduced on my part, but then again, I wasn't kicking the chassis either. LOVE your analysis, Alex! Excellent, as always. Whatever caused the loss of this F-35B, I hope lessons are learned and applied accordingly. That the pilot ejected safely and there was no loss of life or injury on the ground is a pure blessing! (I should talk to the Boss about that and say, "Thank you!")

@ronmaximilian6953 9 ай бұрын

People were kicking a server? Why? Do they not understand that a spinning hard drive and a diesel engine?

@pastorrich7436 9 ай бұрын

@@ronmaximilian6953, apparently not!

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

@@ronmaximilian6953 How else is this sensitive electronic equipment going to function properly if I don't hit it and shout "Why aren't you working, you piece of shit!"?

@iainhutchinson1957 9 ай бұрын

I had no idea about the automatic ground collision avoidance system. And it's the obvious answer to how the jet managed to carry on.

@williamrunner6718 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Sanboxx, your channel is my number one when it comes to gaining credible and accurate information in reference to modern aircraft!

@khandimahn9687 9 ай бұрын

I was waiting for you take on this. I knew you would give a comprehensive and concise summary of the situation.

@Nathan-vt1jz 9 ай бұрын

You are definitely the best journalist on aviation news. Keep up the great work!

@a-fl-man640 9 ай бұрын

i feel for the pilot. the hearings, finger pointing, and paperwork would be a chore. can't be good for one's career. good luck Mr. Pilot

@jj4791 9 ай бұрын

There are specific policies that require the pilot to eject in the event of certain failures: Stability augmentation computer, etc. if they fail, you must eject. If you don't and land it anyway, you will probably lose flying privileges. Because the pilot is worth more than the plane.

@jimandnena4 9 ай бұрын

Or Ms. Pilot?

@etherealessence 8 ай бұрын

You'd be surprised. That's not how it works at all. The pilot is FAR more valuable than the plane. You'd have to eject for fun for an ejection to end your fighter pilot career.

@KashouWannabe 8 ай бұрын

Videos like this that breakdown the systems involved are fascinating. It's not just enough for a plane to make things go boom, there are thousands of other considerations and requirements that the onboard equipment needs to meet.

@joedavey84 8 ай бұрын

Always appreciate these in depth breakdowns. Also just learned in your video about the “giant triangle” that you’re from Torrington. I grew up in winsted and my mom had the same experience you did. The way she described it was exactly the same as you did. Weird but true. Keep up the great work!

@randallparker8477 8 ай бұрын

Good job Alex. I was pretty sure of the F35 being found because of some of the info you regularly provide on all aircraft on your channel. Anything else "we don't know yet" is SOP for military aviation or anything military. I was Navy for 20 years so I know how tight lipped the military can be... aboard an aircraft carrier I served on we couldn't find out about a days menu on the mess decks because it was something special for the CO's birthday so it was a surprise! There was a lot of speculation and rumors, it's prime rib or flight deck BBQ. But the Chaplain, XO, and the Wardroom and CPO mess had arranged a ship wide pizza delivery... that's A LOT of pizza, we were in port of course. LOL

@henrikchristensen7118 9 ай бұрын

Finally…. Solid work… Even in Denmark, where we are currently receiving these birds, journalists are going all in - without basic knowledge… Very well made post!

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

Journalists in all countries are nearly always a total waste of time. I honestly believe that most news reporting actually makes the public stupider because the reporters usually don't know what they're talking about and the information they put out is wrong in so many ways.

@MrLemonbaby 8 ай бұрын

Alex, this was very complete, very clear and settles all my questions. The net needs more journalism like this.

@markoconnell804 9 ай бұрын

Nice video. Thanks for addressing these things. This was very fun and enjoyable to watch.

@Cyrribrae 9 ай бұрын

I'M SO MAD OUR STEALTH PLANE CAN'T BE CONSTANTLY TRACKED!

@cabletelcontar5440 9 ай бұрын

They got to be mad at something. They have nothing else.

@corvuscorax8459 9 ай бұрын

@@cabletelcontar5440 I don’t like my tax money being spent on weapons to bomb third world countries. Which is literally all the F-35 has done so far. Other than crash a bunch and cost us 1.7 trillion dollars.

@SCH292 9 ай бұрын

@@cabletelcontar5440 Well. Remember that these are Republic-tards Senators here. They are doing whatever they can to gain control of the office again so of course "if" and "when" anything happens they wanna "mad out".

@billwhite1603 9 ай бұрын

I did doze just a minute or two. What I would ask Alex is if you would keep track to see if the issue Japan had with the B variant, might end up being the same as this last crash. I never heard the reason for the Japanese F-35 so maybe that has been resolved already.

@viciousvictortee1298 9 ай бұрын

Really enjoying your channel since Finding it. Great Job Buddy!

@akkowll 9 ай бұрын

Always informative, easy to understand and quite frankly refreshing! Thanks for your service Alex!

@Markus117d 9 ай бұрын

I have one point to raise, The auto ejection system. You mentioned it's designed to function when the nose drops and there's a problem with the engine / lifting fan, And say because the aircraft flew so far afterwards it's unlikely this was the case, So my point is this, There doesn't necessarily need to be such a problem, The aircraft only needs to think there is, It could result from sensor faults as well, Although presumably there would be multiple backup sensors.. 🤔

@Rorschach1024 9 ай бұрын

An ejection will change the CG of the aircraft that can cause a nose up attitude. There have been several instances of aircraft that recovered from things like flat spins and dives after the pilot exited the aircraft. Look up the "Cornfield Bomber" (actually a Delta Dart fighter) that was in a flat spin, pilot ejected, aircraft self-recovered after ejection, and then flew until it ran out of fuel and it belly landed in a cornfield. Was recovered, repaired and put back into service.

@Markus117d 9 ай бұрын

@@Rorschach1024Yep, But that wasn't what i was trying to say, to put it another way, And ignore the normal conditions to trigger the auto-eject, If your check engine light illuminates in your car, Is it a problem with the engine or a malfunctioning sensor? I've had both, An actual problem with the engine and a faulty sensor making the computer freak out and lock the car into limp home mode, Lol Now imagine your car has a system to eject you to safety if any warning's are tripped. Did the system function correctly and save you, Or did it nearly kill you and ultimately cause the vehicle to crash.. ??? 🤔 Hopefully if nothing much else is released from the F35 crash investigation, 🤞 At least they will publish the cause if the can..

@freddiecarr7602 9 ай бұрын

Yes, this is the best explanation---but with the classified nature of the beast---we will never know!@@Markus117d

@billynomates920 8 ай бұрын

that occurred to me too - i wonder if the 'back-up sensors' are dedicated physical units or whether they are part of the avionics 'sensor-fusion' suite and their i/o for auto eject is a software function based on readings they take for some other duty - like you say, the plane only has to (erroneously) think that is the situation and🪂

@grant0208 9 ай бұрын

Idk if I’m just weird for watching FlightRadar24 and ADSB Exchange all the time, but the fighters typically don’t put their transponders on once they’ve left the airspace of their departure and don’t turn them back on until they’ve entered the pattern for their arrival airport. Happens all the time with an F18 squadron that fuels up near me at a busy general aviation reliever airport. As soon as they’re about 20 miles out from takeoff, they shut them down

@charlesrichardson8635 8 ай бұрын

After watching your vids and reading so much about the F35. Further I read somewhere that the F35 did not have reflectors because they were in training. I assumed the transponder was off for the same reason. You covered the transponder very well and clear. Thanks for another great video and I wait to hear your take!

@hermanmusimbi4337 9 ай бұрын

You're super underrated alex, I always learn something new in your videos. If you ever doubt why you're not gaining new subs. Understand that the truth is still putting on its shoes while a lie is half way around the world. But this story made me realize how important your work is and I hope my new subscription helps you promote that truth.

@Narco42 9 ай бұрын

I was flying a B-52 over Kansas Center airspace about 6-9 years ago when our IFF failed. Center thought we crashed and called us frantically. ATC couldn't find a BUFF.... over Kansas.

@jerelull9629 8 ай бұрын

LOL. Thanks for the giggle.

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

Why would you expect them to find it? I mean, something as tiny as a B-52 flying through the famously mountainous Kansas terrain. You were probably hiding in those deep valleys like you were flying the Mach Loop (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lapdp62ftMWYpXU.htmlsi=5eEYmkxManv9OGNM - this guy's photos and videos are amazing)

@beekay5209 9 ай бұрын

Could you make a video about the Norwegian F-35's that landed on highways in Finland yesterday? Would be pretty interesting.

@legendaryryan1623 9 ай бұрын

f35b?

@alexlee6074 9 ай бұрын

And typhoons as well

@JSFGuy 9 ай бұрын

@@legendaryryan1623p You're asking if it's F-35B? Norway has the AF version.

@legendaryryan1623 9 ай бұрын

just the vertical takeoff version. the ground has more f35b kills than anyone else

@JSFGuy 9 ай бұрын

@@legendaryryan1623 Right, what is your question for the OP?

@JasonMcClainEvolved 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video. Thorough and incredibly approachable/accessible.

@bluesideup007 9 ай бұрын

Excellent information and update. Thanks. I live in the Midwest (location not disclosed) and F-35's fly over my house on approach or departure dozens of time per week (or day). It's been eerily quite the past 5 days. 🚫✈

@woodchuck003 9 ай бұрын

The dumbest conspiracy theory I saw was that the government could have instead solved homelessness but instead decided to waste on a fascist plane. The people were tankies.

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

It's amazing how many people believe stuff like that. Never mind that defence spending is proportionally much lower than it was decades ago when there was much less homelessness, or that the world is wealthier than it's ever been and yet homelessness is still an issue - maybe the problem isn't just caused by money.

@Tazandd 9 ай бұрын

Sounds to me like the DoD just spent $100 mil testing the radar detection of the F35 if it were to go down in a hostile environment. Thankfully the pilot is safe and nothing but knowledge was gained from this.

@DocWolph 9 ай бұрын

One should hope that is the case.

@AICW 9 ай бұрын

@@CouchDoritos Idiocy should be the typical expectation from Mark Milley's military.

@etherealessence 8 ай бұрын

@@AICW Ya! That's right! And I'm sure you could do better.

@AICW 8 ай бұрын

@@etherealessence I could automatically do a better job than Milley. All I would have to do is never, ever utter the nonsensical phrase "white rage."

@cogentdynamics 9 ай бұрын

Alex, this may be the best report on such a topic I have ever seen or heard. Bravo man, really excellent reporting and d I don’t say that lightly.

@k9ready690 9 ай бұрын

This clears up several questions I had about this event. Thank you.

@Stealth86651 9 ай бұрын

I guess not a lot of people have had to find something over a vast stretch of land. It's not easy. When you're dealing with tens of miles or more, sometimes something like an aircraft could be the size of a needle for all it matters. Especially when you have an aircraft designed to not be detected, I imagine they might have some trouble you know, detecting it, what a shocker. These are the same people who wonder why the tire always goes flat on the bottom.

@pike100 9 ай бұрын

LOL @ "why the tire always goes flat on the bottom."

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

If they knew anything about the history of aviation, and military aviation in particular they'd know that there have been countless times when a non-stealth aircraft has been lost and it's taken ages, and sometimes even decades to find anything.

@jimbrown5091 9 ай бұрын

We have to remember, that while individual humans can be very bright, groups of people when exposed to the internet, tend to become quite stupid in the aggregate.

@THE-X-Force 9 ай бұрын

Excellent reporting as always. Thank you for the insights.

@Fido4273 8 ай бұрын

I just remembered when you were talking about the transponders, some atc radio traffic between tower and a civilian aircraft, where ground control only reported 1 f-35 in front, then corrected to 6 f-35’s in front. That makes a lot more sense that he would be so off if you consider only one had a transponder on

@Kitt_the_Katt 9 ай бұрын

I find it hilarious how many people in the comments who have never been an aviator or in the military deem themselves qualified to declare a forced ejection "ridiculous" and that a plane with severely altered weight distribution because of a missing pilot and heavy seat flying/falling 60 miles away difficult to believe. One of the main problems we face as a society today is people thinking that they know more than actual experts.

@corvuscorax8459 9 ай бұрын

Are you a former fighter pilot?

@ANTIStraussian 9 ай бұрын

@@corvuscorax8459are you a current red pilled conspiracy bro?

@corvuscorax8459 9 ай бұрын

@@ANTIStraussian lol no. But I’m not an armchair Reddit expert who says pretentious shit like this.

@ANTIStraussian 9 ай бұрын

@@corvuscorax8459 all the qnon tards will jump on the jet story, maui fires, Ohio train, we can't obsess over every insane new conspiracy theory.

@neymarsenna787 9 ай бұрын

@@corvuscorax8459aren't you too? Lol

@eldarrissman4172 9 ай бұрын

What surprises me is not that conspiracies are generated, but how many believe it because "official sources" are somehow always nefariously deceiving us. I have run into a few, proving the old adage "never argue with the fool, bystanders will not be able to tell the difference"

@thekamelotbard186 8 ай бұрын

I was genuinely curious as to what happened with this thing And I learned a lot of stuff I didn't know about to boot! Thank You for this informative video.

@moso00 9 ай бұрын

You get thumbs up 👍 even before I watch to the end of your video! Always great, honest, personal, energetic reporting! Keep it up! 😊

@cylentone 9 ай бұрын

All in all - I can't imagine anyone involved sleeps well after this. Aside from the military implications, this was a very dangerous situation, imagine if it had gone down in a populated area like the MiG you mentioned (did it have live weapons on board?). I hope somebody learned something and does something about it, at least when flying in US air space.

@captin3149 9 ай бұрын

Weapons generally have to be armed nowadays, they don't just explode in a crash usually. And while the potential for this crash to be dangerous to people on the ground, think of how many hundreds of hours are being flown by pilots in these things. Not to mention even larger planes, both military and civilian. ANYTHING electronic is going to have failures at some points, I think we're doing pretty good to have as relatively few accidents as we are considering the sheer number of planes in the air at any given time.

@bigearl3867 9 ай бұрын

It's not the first time a U.S. fighter or bomber has gone down over the U.S., and it won't be the last.

@DeaconBlu 9 ай бұрын

I’m thankful you put a lot of this bullish!t to bed. I’ve even gotten questions at work ( they all know I’m a military/aviation nut) & some of the things I’ve been hearing are downright laughable. It’s insane. I wish you could broadcast this vid world wide…on standard platforms everywhere. Again & as always…Thank You Alex! For what you do…& how you do it. 😎👍❤️

@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 9 ай бұрын

I don’t understand how people can’t reason most of this shit put themselves. When did people just stop thinking critically? It’s really troubling to me, how dumb people have seemingly gotten.

@DeaconBlu 9 ай бұрын

@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 agreed 109%.

@jbsfitness1989 8 ай бұрын

Complete and detailed as I like my information! Cheers.

@DonPayne-vt9rq 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your astute discerning explanation process. You have a skill for making complication: simple. Occam's razor generally is correct. But when the system is so complex as the f-35 is, any mishap at all can come from a multitude of places. Your analysis seems very sober and spot-on to the truth.

@ronaldschoolcraft8654 9 ай бұрын

This is pretty close to what I was thinking. For the record, I was working on the Lift Fan system for what would become the F35B in 1989 and 1990, so I have some history with this aircraft. It was a black project then. With that said, I don't trust anything that the government says without verifying these days. The corruption and incompetence at high levels of the Pentagon and at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue has eroded my trust.

@duncanidaho2097 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! Even after this video, I wouldn’t trust anything this lying corrupt government says, especially the horrific Pentagon and the political weasel flag officers. And I do not seeing that change within my lifetime.

@chaosXP3RT 9 ай бұрын

It all started with Trump and his neo-cons

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

I don't trust anything politicians say without verifying it, but I do believe that the armed forces in the US and NATO allies tend to be fairly trustworthy. Of course there's stuff they don't tell us, but they're usually clear that it's information that they're not going to reveal.

@nimbusnation9584 9 ай бұрын

This F35 is doing exactly what it is supposed to do. The F35s are truly impressive machines.

@gregorydanforth9538 9 ай бұрын

It was a spider!!!! The pilot saw a spider in the cockpit and said “ Nope, not today sir”

@Rattiar 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the insights! Always appreciated.

@lyfandeth 9 ай бұрын

If I was the lead designer on a stealth combat aircraft, and it was flying in stealth mode, I'd presume that a pilot ejecting meant the enemy had shot it down. So damned right, I would want all active electronics to TURN OFF ON EJECT in order to make it harder for an enemy to go recover the pieces. Anything else would be a gross security error.

@kennethng8346 9 ай бұрын

If the people onboard had all ejected I'd program it to nose dive into the ground full throttle. Unless there are inputs on the stick that indicate a fault in the ejection detection circuit (don't want to kill the pilot over a faulty circuit).

@Utubesuperstar 9 ай бұрын

@@kennethng8346indeed

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

@@kennethng8346 Now imagine a scenario where the plane has a problem flying over a coastal city. The pilot manages to aim the aircraft so that it'll fly out to sea then he ejects while still over the city. You wouldn't want the plane to dive itself into the ground where it could cause a disaster. Also, if the systems have that level of control over the aircraft to be able to put the engine to full throttle and execute a dive then why couldn't they keep the plane flying or even take it to the nearest runway and land it?

@kennethng8346 8 ай бұрын

@@trolleriffic We're getting into sci fi level complexity here. If your over friendly territory then find a runway in range and fly and land it. If over hostile territory and nobody on board then dive bomb it into the ground. If hostile and people on board, but not apparently responding? I do not know the current level of sophistication aboard these vehicles, but I think right now they are more concerned with not being shot.

@kennethng8346 9 ай бұрын

Excellent video as always. That ground avoidance mechanism seems like a great idea especially on fighters where they may have blacked out. Question: wouldn't it be a good idea for it to turn off if there is nobody on board to save? Ref: flying to Cuba: Center of S. Carolina to Havana is 736 miles, stated range of F35B is 1000 miles, so it could be doable depending on remaining fuel and weather conditions. Disclaimer I am not an airplane pilot, nor do I play one on youtube. ADS-B: one of the things I find annoying is government agencies are free to turn this on and off at their sole descretion, which makes keeping airspace safe an interesting experiment. People are complaining that a *STEALTH* aircraft couldn't be tracked radar? I suppose if it was tracked they would say its a waste of money.

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

Achieving the stated range would require flying at high altitude (30,000ft or more) for the majority of that distance. Since it was already down low, that range is going to be reduced significantly.

@kennethng8346 8 ай бұрын

@@trolleriffic I also assumed the fighter was full of fuel, which it probably was not. I was just stating that from the available facts it could not be ruled out. Highly unlikely, but not impossible. Like winning the lottery.

@RandomExitsJT 6 ай бұрын

I am laughing at the level of simplicity you put this. But you put it so that almost anyone could understand it. As you always do. Thank you.

@dakrawnik4208 9 ай бұрын

Conspiracies remind me human intelligence peaked decades ago.

@HubertHeller 9 ай бұрын

I understand that a stealth aircraft cannot continuously transmit information. But I am nevertheless surprised that it doesn't have a transponder that can answer to a encrypted signal.

@avroarchitect1793 9 ай бұрын

hard for it to work after its scrap metal in a forrest. And given the distance from ejection, it was likely not airborne for more than an hour after the pilot punched out. It probably crashed sooner.

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

That would introduce a vulnerability in the design for an enemy to exploit. They could in principle broadcast a spoofed signal and it would reveal the locations of any F-35s operating in or near their airspace.

@outsidethebox1876 9 ай бұрын

Super honored that a democrat is going to tell us what to believe.

@bob38028 9 ай бұрын

What?

@chaosXP3RT 9 ай бұрын

Who's a Democrat?

@trolleriffic 8 ай бұрын

@@chaosXP3RT The Prince of Lies himself - Satan, of course. Didn't you know he's a registered Democrat? A big fan of Jimmy Carter apparently...

@markymarknj 9 ай бұрын

Thanks, Alex! That was a lot of good information.

@kevinm3751 8 ай бұрын

Great information. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

@georgeklauss1696 9 ай бұрын

Forced to eject from an aircraft that flew via autopilot? Wow you think the sheep are that stupid? 😊

@acoustic5738 9 ай бұрын

Dude, this is easy, try to debunk the lefties, saying Mexico bought a russian carrier, su57, and russian submarines. 😂😂😂😂

@chaosXP3RT 9 ай бұрын

What're you talking about?

@acoustic5738 9 ай бұрын

@@chaosXP3RTpro left channels are litteraly publishing videos stating this. How YT allows it? is a mistery...but yes its a thing, a lie, but a thing. 😂

@chaosXP3RT 9 ай бұрын

@@acoustic5738 Which channels? I want to see for myself. Because Russia has only 1 aircraft carrier and it's still in drydock in Murmansk. Are you some kind of weird pro-Russian bot?

@acoustic5738 9 ай бұрын

I dont think you understood. Lets leave it there.

@burtharris6343 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Alex. Timely, informative, and well presented.

@pleasegrowabrain 8 ай бұрын

The training flight originated from MCAS Beaufort, SC -- not the joint base in Charleston. Cause was most likely a mechanical or electrical systems failure. One unanswered question is why the ELT wasn't broadcasting from the moment of ejection through to the crash of the airframe. That beacon is designed to survive a crash and continue transmitting a tracking beacon, so should have enabled a rapid location of the crash site.

@cogentdynamics 9 ай бұрын

Wow, that transponder information is really great. I didn’t know about that.

@davidmorais480 8 ай бұрын

U are one stud journalist. As a career military man with 20 years experience of flying fighters and an airline pilot,!as you said, the inability to locate the aircraft was intuitive to me but to others not so well versed in aviation your video should have made things perfectly clear. Nice touch referencing the AIM also. Really thorough!

@bigc7t 9 ай бұрын

Thank you Alex, I'm glad you did this story.

@icaleinns6233 9 ай бұрын

Great stuff Alex! I had no idea that transponders were intentionally turned off on a wingman's aircraft! I, too, assumed there was some sort of system failure that also took out the transponder.

@airlemental 9 ай бұрын

This was new for me too. I was like "oops, I'm sure there was a controller mad at me for at least a couple of flights I can remember". I was actually thinking it could have been some kind of test where they were having the pilots cycle them and reading returns of some kind. The formation thing makes a LOT more sense though.

@jj4791 9 ай бұрын

As a Private Pilot: Transponders are only required to operate or even be installed on an aircraft operated within a transponder "veil" as its called. Anywhere within the 30NM radius of a Class-Bravo airspace. Sometimes farther. J3 Cubs often don't have transponders, or radios, or any electrical systems at all. Except engine magnetos, hand prop start.

@macfilms9904 9 ай бұрын

Great coverage Alex - I've just been in a "we'll know when we know" about this. I'd wondered about an engine shutdown and failed restart, but clearly the plane wouldn't have flown 50 miles without an engine. So it's something else & conspiracies (which apparently are so hot right now), are just noise.

@JCtheMusicMan_ 9 ай бұрын

Phenomenal work as always! ❤

@BuergerPT 9 ай бұрын

As usual, so well done.

@michaeldobson107 8 ай бұрын

Emergency Services: We can't find it. Air Force: It's a stealth fighter. LOL.

@alankennedy820 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Alex, just love those crazy conspiring folks.

@6995adam 9 ай бұрын

Thank You! Great video. I admire Your knowledge and analytical skills. 👍

@rustyshaklferd1897 9 ай бұрын

I was wondering why you were late to report on finding the debris, then I remembered that you don’t make videos until the fact are in and you thoroughly investigate.

@chieficeworm 8 ай бұрын

Great report!

@briangriffiths114 9 ай бұрын

Very interesting and well-explained, enjoyed the video.

@sberry80 9 ай бұрын

Another great video as always

@flightscapeaviationphoto 9 ай бұрын

Like clockwork, Alex Hollings delivers the goods. Excellent video. 🤙

@eugenewalters5100 9 ай бұрын

Great work as usual, Alex!👍

@pauldiaco3817 8 ай бұрын

My only question/concern is... what role did the wingman play post-ejection? Was following the crippled jet not a priority? And if not, why not?

@beboy12003 8 ай бұрын

good job answering the questions and conspiracies.

@arcataslacker 9 ай бұрын

Hats off to you sir. Phenomenal work as always

@nasabielas 9 ай бұрын

You answered a bunch of questions per normal for your videos. Again, great job digging in and getting likely answers and dispelling some of the off the wall conspiracy theories. The question I have is why the Marines did not have Luneburg reflective lens on the aircraft when not flying combat missions? I now understand that the lead aircraft only is supposed to have their transponder on, or it could have been a malfunction. I still think it is still possible that the F 35B may have auto ejected the pilot. Hopefully, we will find out.