Great discussion. Thank you. The challenge is always finding a fitter who will actual spend quality time with a rank amateur. 5-15 handicap players who want to get better.
@jeremyhurley10585 ай бұрын
The reason fitters are so hard to find is the lack of training. I’ve been playing golf for 45 years and have been involved in golf equipment and yet never have had proper training or explanation to fit properly, including myself.
@craig37755 ай бұрын
Having used Vokey wedges for decades, I tried to switch last year testing other manufacturers. Suffice to say I have SM10 in the bag, Vokey is number one for good reason
@apaulmcdonough2170Ай бұрын
I'm a fairly knowledgeable golfer and there is excellent information for the recreational golfer here. I used to play a 54° V Grind and a 58° Low Bounce K Grind. Unfortunately the 54° V can't be replaced currently, so I went to a 54° S Grind and a 58° T Grind (both SM9) last year. I play in Southern California so generally Firm and Dry conditions. Anyway, GREAT Video and a nice switch up to seeing "someone else" hitting Wedges in a "Fitting Video." Thanks.
@jeremyhurley10585 ай бұрын
Having never used Vokey wedges for decades, after testing for the first time, I feel embarrassed for not experimenting at the very least…. I had instant satisfaction with my experimentation. Now the problem is getting properly fit for all the different grinds and the fitters that are available or not trained properly in my opinion, and the cost of a fitting should be obsolete if you want us to play your product. What we pay for golf equipment nowadays the fitting should be included.
@Sffhjjngtggb10 күн бұрын
some of the questions Chris and Tony asked were pretty sharp ones, but I don't think their answers (especially to heel biased CG) was quite at the same level. maybe it's a trade secret that they don't want to disclose. who knows.
@nwluce14 ай бұрын
Cool video i enjoyed the info much more than i thought i would very interesting
@roadtoscratchgolf34815 ай бұрын
Wow, when I get fit this year, I'll definitely try a bunch of different Vokey grinds. I started off with Vokey some years ago and I like them, so I'll probably stay with them. Thanks for educating us on Grinds and the type of conditins many of them are best for. IN my neck of the woods (Phoenix/Scottsdale area), it looks like T and M grinds might be best. Cheers.
@GolfSpyC5 ай бұрын
I don't want to speak for your fitter, but while course conditions are an important part of the fitting process, your swing always travels with you - meaning, that I tend to be shallow with my wedges and that's always going to be the case no matter where I play....If you're AOA is steep, T or M might not be the best...but if you're shallow and have firm turf, it's pretty much made for the T/M situation
@roadtoscratchgolf34815 ай бұрын
Understood, I will definitely rely on the fitter. I was just reiterating what the Vokey guy said about playing on firm turf: that the T and M grinds might be best for these types of turf, which certainly is most of Phoenix/Scottsdale courses. Cheers
@olivermanthorpe24655 ай бұрын
Great episode! 🫱🏻🫲🏼🫱🏻🫲🏼 Audio was great for an off-site interview 👍🏼 Very informative as well. Whether Vokey is your favorite wedge or not. Only suggestion is to adjust the title or thumbnail to make it more obvious that this is a podcast with Titleist designers and not just the normal format. Might help drive new traffic to click on this video that may not be regulars for your typical podcast. I was pleasently surprised to see this is a podcast/interview with Vokey designers. Might bring more eyes if its more obvious before they click
@nbt36635 ай бұрын
When i lay my sandwedge open i like the leading edge to still be on the ground. My old ping wedges do that.
@georgedelaney70855 ай бұрын
Vokey T Grind will do that
@nbt36635 ай бұрын
@georgedelaney7085 I'm going to order one. Josh Speight local player in Richmond has been on me about that.
@georgedelaney70855 ай бұрын
@@nbt3663 Excellent wedge for firm conditions and tight lies especially if you like to open the face.
@seancook22645 ай бұрын
I use the Ping E for the same reason. Flicks it out Like a spade out of bunkers but still works a treat off tight lies.
@georgedelaney70855 ай бұрын
Not saying Vokey wedges are better than any other but they have more grind, loft options than any other manufacturer
@lawbinson5 ай бұрын
I wish there were high-toe, high-offset vokey options.
@colinwalker74665 ай бұрын
Vokey loyalist to a T, but still waiting for a 56-12K 😘👍
@apaulmcdonough2170Ай бұрын
K is now 14°, so order a 58° and have it Delofted 02° to 56°. This will also reduce Bounce to 12°.
@jflower1135 ай бұрын
WHY NOT SMX??
@markushayes5 ай бұрын
Can get a sweet deal on Vokey SM10 raw, tour issue S400 with MCC plus 4 for $270 per club.
@sportsjunkie29005 ай бұрын
Just sharpen your own wedges and then your all good
@jamesm46035 ай бұрын
Until they offer a wedge with full face grooves they are eliminated from my consideration. In this day and age they are doing a disservice to the average golfer by not offering them as it offers an advantage to the average golfer . I'm 71 years old and feel they are out of touch with me and others in my age group that will spend the money. As a matter of fact when I was looking at new clubs last year I didn't even look at the Titlelist clubs.All other major manufacturers do offer them. I played Vockey's until the sm8 then I tried full face grooves and it was world changing! They seem too focused on the Tour pros who don't pay for clubs, we do so they need to listen the people paying the bills! I carry 6 wedges.
@GolfSpyC5 ай бұрын
QQ - Why do you think that you need a wedge with full face grooves?
@jamesm46035 ай бұрын
When I open the face there's no grooves on most of the face. I don't understand why they don't offer them after all the customer is right and the others seem have gotten the message! I'm playing the TM HiToe and made big difference in consistency. What is the disadvantage of them? Everything I heard was about the tour pros nothing about us average golfers! @@GolfSpyC
@jamesm46035 ай бұрын
Why not? I carry 6 wedges and once I played a full face wedge there was no going back. I played Vockeys through the sm8. @@GolfSpyC
@GolfSpyC5 ай бұрын
@@jamesm4603 6 wedges? That's wild! But unless you have 18 clubs, I can't see a reason for more than 3-4. That said, if the only shot you play with your highest lofted wedge is an open-face one, I can see where you're coming from. But how often are most golfers hitting that shot? Also, rough numbers but let's say that from the heel-side edge of the scoring line all the way to the toe (Vokey SM10) is 2 3/4" in length...the part w/o grooves is at most 3/8" wide - so, I have to wonder how often golfers are actually making contact in this extreme toe area
@jamesm46035 ай бұрын
I carry Driver, 3 wood 4 Hybrid,6-9iron my PW is 42º, 45º, 50º, 54º, 58º & putter sometimes a Ping Chippr@@GolfSpyC
@Siggy_Sour5 ай бұрын
Shill Ep. lol
@fredgarvin42525 ай бұрын
Hope they start offering Project X wedge shaft!! It’s WAY better than chopping the HELL out of regular PX. Feel & consistency is AWESOME !
@georgedelaney70855 ай бұрын
I have ordered pitching and gap wedges through my pro shop with shafts to match my irons. I also now have Nippon Steel wedge shafts in my sand and lob wedges. I would check through a pro shop for a special order. Never hurts to ask.
@coreyvanular61954 ай бұрын
Golf manufactures should offer free fittings
@apaulmcdonough2170Ай бұрын
Fitting Fees are usually applied to Purchase Costs, if you order at the end of the Fitting. The Fee is just to keep the "Tire Kickers" out of the Fitting Bays.
@cgasucks5 ай бұрын
Wedge tech hasn't changed for decades.
@GolfSpyC5 ай бұрын
Depends what you define as technology - but for my $, groove design and cg location count as tech