The Truth Behind OSRS's Dark Side ft. Ex Mod Mat K

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0:00 Intro
0:16 Mat K Introduction
1:34 What is Mat K up to now?
10:25 What days stand out the most from your time at Jagex?
13:54 What's the story behind the T Bow glitch?
17:00 Do you feel like the lifespan of OSRS has exceeded expectations?
21:15 If you still worked at Jagex, what would you do to reinvigorate the game?
22:56 Steam client and how it affects botting; How does Jagex handle bots?
33:57 Discussion about 3rd party clients
45:24 Continued discussion of botting. How it affects the economy, etc.
52:47 Is it possible for the game to be sustained entirely from ironmen accounts?
55:37 In what ways does RWT damage the game?
1:01:25 Duel Arena and gambling.
1:26:48 Does Jagex underpay it's employees?
1:34:20 MTX Discussion
1:43:16 Would you ever go back and work for Jagex again?
1:48:30 What happened with Mod Reach?
1:50:09 What happened with Mod Jed?
2:07:58 What was a moment where you made a big push forward on something in the game?
2:19:45 Questions from the chat
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@Ryan-yw7hl 3 жыл бұрын

0:16 Mat K Introduction 1:34 What is Mat K up to now? 10:25 What days stand out the most from your time at Jagex? 13:54 What's the story behind the T Bow glitch? 17:00 Do you feel like the lifespan of OSRS has exceeded expectations? 21:15 If you still worked at Jagex, what would you do to reinvigorate the game? 22:56 Steam client and how it affects botting; How does Jagex handle bots? 33:57 Discussion about 3rd party clients 45:24 Continued discussion of botting. How it affects the economy, etc. 52:47 Is it possible for the game to be sustained entirely from ironmen accounts? 55:37 In what ways does RWT damage the game? 1:01:25 Duel Arena and gambling. 1:26:48 Does Jagex underpay it's employees? 1:34:20 MTX Discussion 1:43:16 Would you ever go back and work for Jagex again? 1:48:30 What happened with Mod Reach? 1:50:09 What happened with Mod Jed? 2:07:58 What was a moment where you made a big push forward on something in the game? 2:19:45 Questions from the chat

@OSRSPodCasts 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Ryan, Would you be able to DM Raikesy on Twitter/Discord?

@sainttaint3585 3 жыл бұрын

The real mvp

@KillerFoods 3 жыл бұрын

Not all capes wear heroes

@d.h.601 3 жыл бұрын

It’s people like you that are why I’m proud to be part of this community

@davidp6776 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this

@rhyuke 3 жыл бұрын

guys please stop talking over him mid story. Id much rather hear his story than your reaction. Edit: The most interesting questions about what happened to old J Mods and you guys cant even stop talking long enough to let him answer the dang question

@Chris-ex2sl 3 жыл бұрын

Aggred STFU when he is answering. Not only that but.. this is a Q&A not a Podcast lol

@noobs4lyfe 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chris-ex2sl “OSRS PODCAST”

@razorbacks9034 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and i feel like Raiksey doesnt listen very well to begin with. Regarding the duel arena, Mat K says multiple times that deleting the duel arena (or putting a limit on the amount) would move those players to a different area, where they would try and do the same thing and could cause even more destruction to the vulnerable people of addiction . Then 10 minutes later Raiksey asks "if you could eat the red pill and remove the duel arena, or swallow the blue pill to keep it, what would you do?" What an absurd question, that was already answered.

@MacMilllerRS 3 жыл бұрын

It was an interesting watch. My only advice would be try not to cut-off a guest mid-answer, let him finish his ideas/sentences before you interject. Will really help with the flow of the podcast.

@vinluman 3 жыл бұрын

this, so much there were so many points where i was just thinking to myself "holy crap let him talk" or "whats the point of asking a question if you're just going to talk over the answer"

@Chucky42069 3 жыл бұрын

Its not necessarily easy to interview somebody in this kind of format when initially they are not formed in any way for this, but I support the fact that letting the guest talk more (even more when it's an iconic/important figure as Matt K was/is) will help the flow of the show.

@Born... 3 жыл бұрын

@@Chucky42069 Its common sense to let someone finish what they are saying lol, this has nothing to do with format

@Chucky42069 3 жыл бұрын

@@Born... Oh, I meant the zoom format where there is delay and everybody interrupts everybody. I have weekly zoom meetings and this was an issue I observed in the first few months of usage. Plus being three hosts and not any of them having the lead on the interview makes it even more scuffed.

@dranide 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah not good interviewers honestly. ex MMK didnt even get to introduce themselves...

@RedeemedOSRS 3 жыл бұрын

Would love some general time stamps for topics discussed. Doesn't have to be heaps but would help for those of us who don't have 3hrs for each podcast

@axelbruv 3 жыл бұрын

There are timestamps in the video description if you’re still interested.

@convictedrunescapist3717 2 жыл бұрын

You got it friend

@JoshPillault 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love Mat K. It's selfish of me to wish for him to still work at Jagex when I know he's moved on and happy. His twitch streams are phenomenal; a friendly, humble, hilarious British man who knows damn near every tiny scrap of the entire history of this game. HIGHLY recommend his streams if you really love this game. He is a master.

@franklinnartz1381 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for letting me know he streams on Twitch, didn't know, watched the first one tonight.

@hevimetallimias 5 ай бұрын

Yup, he also reveals how much inside shit theres going on inside jagex lmao. Create a game which people can RWT gp, its like win win win situation. They profit off membership fees, then they can also do inside job shit to RWT themselves etc.

@LuciferianUK 3 жыл бұрын

Mod Gee was the artist who did the T-Bow glitch. Watch Bankstandin' episode with Mod Gee and then Mat K backtracks with: "while SHE was being trained, um or he I cant actually remember who the new artist was"

@mdikeee4817 3 жыл бұрын

wait wasn't it the one who was training her the one that did it? because K said the trainer spawned all the bows as an example of what not to do then forgot to remove one

@games_discgolf 3 жыл бұрын

@@mdikeee4817 Yeah it was whoever was training her. At least that's how I understood

@warriorbuddy7086 Жыл бұрын

A bit late on the reply, but I believe it was Mod West. I recall them talking about the tbow glitch on a Q&A livestream, and they were making jokes about 'west'

@RobinK 3 жыл бұрын

I still think J1mmy's idea of removing the duel arena and enable money stakes at the rat pits is quite brilliant.

@jacob1980jacob 3 жыл бұрын

Great podcast! Loved it! One thing that is slightly hard to listen to is when someone is making a point or replying, another person jumps in and speaks (even briefly) and the whole audio is unintelligible, not sure if there is any remedy but it seems like on other podcasts it doesn't have as much of a blocking effect

@Derpingtonshere 3 жыл бұрын

Conspiracy theory: Mod Matt K is a lizard and creates the bots with his "new" super computer job. He is still with Jamflex and uses his "new" job as a front for bots so they can boost their player base.

@Bsliggs 3 жыл бұрын

1:37:52 I think he blinks his eyes sideways here

@rjrulz327 3 жыл бұрын

@@Bsliggs haha this gave me a good laugh

@Nickcoz0 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome podcast guest this time! I agree with the feedback about not talking over the guest. Obviously, there's a huge learning curve to the whole interview thing. I might recommend having each host and guest record their own audio on their end (and send it to the edtior after) so that you can edit the voices more clearly in post. That's what professional podcasters do to ensure great audio quality.

@Gudi 3 жыл бұрын

2:05:33 the final areas had to be both f2p and multi. that limited them to fally/barb/wildy/al kharid. the palace bottleneck was 100% an oversight and not a calculated choice to give anyone an advantage. iirc, the final area was leaked because the environment was tweaked in the update ahead of the finale and someone noticed.

@Max-rn7rx 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s what I had heard as well. Rot members noticed the AL Khalid palace doors were removed prior to the final hour. At least that was their narrative!

@JoshPillault 2 жыл бұрын

I believe ya Ronan

@mitchsonix7298 3 жыл бұрын

This took me 3 sittings to get through but glad I did. Mod mat is such a great speaker can answer any question even if that is he has no answer. Side note. Can you guys get evscape back on after br3 went down and it's been 2 years since last seen him.

@Skiemlordd 3 жыл бұрын

Shoutout to my main man Mod Mat K. And the rest of the podcast gang!

@Jason-rn1cp 3 жыл бұрын

For gambling-addicted players have an NPC to talk to. Let's say a player knows they're addicted, they talk to the NPC and the NPC can "lock" the player out from staking for like a year or so.

@cheshires_top_cat 3 жыл бұрын

I kept thinking Mod Mat K was wearing a tophat due to his mic placement

@Klassick07 3 жыл бұрын

Great podcast! Mat K's contributions and further insight into OSRS is incredibly impressive and interesting. It'd be nice to have timestamps, but I will still watch the 3 hours regardless. In the future though, timestamps would be a good addition.

@Rochelle_Moto 3 жыл бұрын

Mint’s haircut looking fresh 👌

@1Corinthians151-4 3 жыл бұрын

A normal hair cut. Yes, looks better than what these weirdos have nowadays

@cheshires_top_cat 3 жыл бұрын

Just finished the entire podcast, every second of it. Thanks for posting very interesting topics and all around fun

@WhoGotSoulHere 3 жыл бұрын

This game is so facinating, and its been that for years and years. I absolutely love it. Hope we have many years to come

@MLGProTips 3 жыл бұрын

Great postcast! You guys really made the most out of having Mat on, would love to see him back at some point!

@datboi7599 3 жыл бұрын

Great insight in this video. Loved having someone close to the corporation on this podcast.

@elijahthekidd5630 3 жыл бұрын

Another amazing podcast gents, one of my favorites.. I'm only half way through but I would like to suggest some tinkering with the audio levels, I find myself turning my volume up and down for each speaker and I also found Mat to be constantly drowned out. Mintmadcow has the cleanest audio but the sound level also got drowned out by RiceCup etc.. just some food for thought :D

@Kaelygon 3 жыл бұрын

Make the conversation about duel arena into a separated video upload. I bet many more people would be interested hearing just that conversation

@Borchert97 3 жыл бұрын

I also was part of that group that really committed to OSRS when GWD came out, before then I still played both RS3 and OSRS.

@mikeadams6036 3 жыл бұрын

Best episode yet, I've played for almost all of RuneScape and never had any idea how influential mod Mat was in my life. Wonder if he had anything to do with darkscape, or if he's in on the Jagex conspiracy to erase all mentions of that gamemode from the internet

@Jonas-cd4hf 3 жыл бұрын

Great job guys. Smashed the like goal in less than a week

@bykovelli1188 3 жыл бұрын

Nice to see Mod Mat k again! hopefully there will be more podcasts with him.

@rjrulz327 3 жыл бұрын

Not done yet but this is awesome need more of these!

@Lucky-tt2yq 3 жыл бұрын

You will always be a part of the Runescape community Matt

@sarphog 3 жыл бұрын

Based Mat K realizing you need to fix people and not symptoms. I *love* his view on gambling addiction. You can't just remove every symptom of a problem, and then pretend it'll magically solve itself afterwards

@-_Nik_- 3 жыл бұрын

So glad you asked him to play the guitar!

@MurdocMack 3 жыл бұрын

Any plan to put these podcasts on apple podcasts or Spotify or anything?

@yeyeyebb4608 3 жыл бұрын

this was a real treat, tysm guys!

@Lothy49 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting remarks around tools during the question about OSRS lifespan. It makes you wonder if Jagex use version control (Git, Mercurial, etc) today.

@massivemcgee 3 жыл бұрын

Would love if you guys uploaded to other podcast platforms!

@charmccann7267 2 жыл бұрын

Thinking about the duel arena and the problems around gambling within this area of OSRS, would it make sense to have Responsible Gambling control tools or settings available, options similar to those featured on actual betting sites or lottery services. E.g the option to have a short break, long break, lifetime exclusion or even setting your own limits on amount staked per week/month. I don't know how realistic that would be in practice but just something that came to mind when listening

@Moz29 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea but ppl just use Alts/ get friends to stake

@Bsliggs 3 жыл бұрын

Mat K? Pog. Really awesome guest guys!

@spooqsy 3 жыл бұрын

1:45:46 "You burn the shrimp"

@6500s1 3 жыл бұрын

3 hours omfg, I guess I'll just go to sleep and postpone this precious gem. :D

@richardc3693 3 жыл бұрын

Fall asleep to it for a couple nights

@jsurridge5001 3 жыл бұрын

Never watched an OSRS podcast before but this was a really interesting listen

@spo2957 3 жыл бұрын

good video, some of the question were really questionable, perhaps research some topics beforehand..

@chrisjferro7808 3 жыл бұрын

Mod Mat K is a smart dude, so chill, he is dearly missed!!

@ramusvinicini 3 жыл бұрын

@Mod Mat K I respect you a ton and loved your streams. But I think the focus on the players who consume the new content shines a little brighter than the players who truly love to put in a days work to gain good gold/hr like picking flax or any resource gathering. We're here! we're just not the ones that make noise.

@AnonAtry 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, haven't played the game in almost a year after playing on and off for 15 years. Only issue I had was felt like Raiksey talked and interrupted way too much, aside from that loved hearing from Mat K and some great questions

@nabsol3211 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the interrupting. Idk what 3 parts were to the rwt K was mentioning.

@chrisbynum6023 3 жыл бұрын

Mod Mat K is so bored of listening to these dudes half his age preach at him about gambling in OSRS.. and they're too immature to realize he's already answered the question.

@dudtopics159 Жыл бұрын

did he delete his twitch? anyway i can see any of his content now?

@TheOfficial4chan 3 жыл бұрын

Downloaded this yt vid but came back to leave a like So much insight into JaGeX, really nice to listen to for addicted players best series on yt

@garrettbrooks4252 3 жыл бұрын

SEA SHANTAY WAS A STRAIGHT BANGER. MISS YOU MAT K

@NotAFanMan88 3 жыл бұрын

The other issue with RWT / Services is that it allows microtransactions to effectively take place, just that Jagex isn't making the money off it. You let people buy items, levels and gold without really earning them.

@xlordxsithxroyalmiller3185 3 жыл бұрын

Loved it as always.

@cafecremesmoker 3 жыл бұрын

MMK is such a great guy, so glad he worked for Jagex when he did.

@XericOSRS 3 жыл бұрын

This was a great video guys! Defs do more of these with ex jmods

@MrAshbo93 3 жыл бұрын

Love the insight you gained out of Mat K! Keep these coming chaps :)

@brandonmccleery 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best pods yet boys keep it up

@ThonieB 2 жыл бұрын

Hard af brothers!

@KappaClaus 3 жыл бұрын

This was definitively the Raiksey podcast

@taaaabz 3 жыл бұрын

interesting that he suggested that he would encourage the team to get on diff platforms cuz i always thought it'd be interesting to play on the switch!

@IamWoodstaman 2 жыл бұрын

I could listen to Mod Mat K talk RS all day. Such an interesting guy.

@HerbIsGaming 3 жыл бұрын

im loving these podcasts but every small sound u guys makes completely cuts off matt k's mic, theres like 4 times where i had to rewind over and over to try to hear him but to no avail... :( still love the idea, good work

@twopintz 3 жыл бұрын

does anyone have a link for jeds (ex)mrs?

@kush_longbow 3 жыл бұрын

Lmaoo "Jagex helps me move my stuff from one house to the next"

@Vetionarian 3 жыл бұрын

You'll probably never see this Matt K , but you truly are a legend and just like Ash hold a special place in every players heart. Runescape has been intrical to my mental health. I'm 27 and never dreamed I'd still be playing a children's game 16 years later....but I love it. I love osrs. I play because it helps me forget all my problems for a little while. People like you have helped make sure my 'safe place' will hopefully live on for many many years to come.

@ZeEzZuEn 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this, very cool.

@thomasmilligan3502 3 жыл бұрын

Banger.

@mssdupdd57 3 жыл бұрын

Love you guys man! Just have a question? Raikesy how did you manage to steal mintys beard and put it on your head!? looks good though

@apexbaines9014 3 жыл бұрын

Love this series 👊🏽

@evanbeck3145 3 жыл бұрын

I wish this podcast got more hype

@unzoned4270 3 жыл бұрын

Such an amazing podcast boys, all of you did really well taking your time and letting Mod Mat K speak. Have him on again & look forward to Rendi next month! Big ups

@trw1782 2 жыл бұрын

This is sarcasm right? I'm 30 minutes in and they havent let Mat finish one thought. This is almost unbearable

@Joe-th7kf 3 жыл бұрын

Mat K is the man. Can’t imagine how osrs is doing without him.

@jlane1188 3 жыл бұрын

Mod Mat K, is the goat. I always thought he was just a meme but man, this guy is incredible. Very intelligent and knows the right way to go about leadership and running a business. Respect for the GOAT

@GRIMDoZeR 3 жыл бұрын

We love and miss you Mod Matt K ❤️

@jessie1078 3 жыл бұрын

Mat has some great points about not removing the duel arena. The one counterpoint I would make is that while it would be irresponsible to straight out remove it all at once, giving rise to an underground unregulated gambling world in game, it's just as irresponsible to have a source of gambling in your game and not include a feature to self exclude, like any other *regulated* place of gambling in the world does have. Give the players an option to ban their account from staking, it's the least you can do imo

@TheRealBallista420 3 жыл бұрын

dud thanks to the "new to you" feature on youtube I found this. Pretty lit.

@lolxmew6114 Жыл бұрын

Still waiting on you to come back Matt, 3k likes and counting

@ryanomalley1776 2 жыл бұрын

Mod Mat k should have a statue of him erected in the legends guild. The man did so much for the game it cannot be overstated. Mod mat k, Mod Ash and the Gower brothers. also me, I should be in there too.

@calpol1394 2 жыл бұрын

Can someone explain the whole dropping the untradeables thing and why that's bad? Was he dropping them for another account to pick them up? Why is this seen as so bad?

@Rochelle_Moto 3 жыл бұрын

Yayyyyy love the podcast boyzzz

@harrylloyd6955 Жыл бұрын

Thoroughly enjoyed working with Mat. BS'd to his eyeballs, I learnt a lot.

@thecodeson99 9 ай бұрын

I know Matt K has left but man he is still my favorite. What a cool guy.

@IniKepi 3 жыл бұрын

why didnt you ask about zezima

@thomasmilligan3502 3 жыл бұрын

After watching for 2 hours I've finally realized why Mint looks different.. the fucking beard's gone. Looking good brother.

@sunnyc1732 3 жыл бұрын

Love the podcast but this episode needed a volume levels check, Mod Mat K seemed to be louder than the rest (unless it's just my speakers)

@ollie2891 3 жыл бұрын

how would it be just your speakers if there are 4 people talking simultaneously

@Flowers_Die 3 жыл бұрын

1:54:45 Ricecup says "Too much being in ROT" and that's the most true shit I've heard lol

@mattdallas5671 3 жыл бұрын

Is this why my old permd account was unlocked but clean?

@mmww_ Жыл бұрын

damn, he called the current deathmatch meta for gambling post duel arena removal

@6500s1 3 жыл бұрын

the economy without bots would be so much more balanced - a lot of good moneymakers for skillers, because now even 99 runecrafting is just plain garbage when you can afk gargs or anything like that, lol.

@teroe2322 3 жыл бұрын

I wish that day would come reality..

@Guggu3d 2 жыл бұрын

The thing is that while basic moneymakers would profit more, the prices of everything would go up. So you make more money, but whatever you want is also more expensive.

@uchihazariya1148 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda funny mod Matt k called what would happen if the duel arena was gone

@quintonsayres Жыл бұрын

20 minutes into the video and didn't even realize rice cup is missing a God damn arm

@rheeswatson9287 Жыл бұрын

Just found this but this is dope

@sahadanazary9364 3 жыл бұрын

Jagex should rework pvm drops and skilling. Bosses should only drop uniques and skilling should be yhe main activity to gather resource. Upgrade how much ressource you can farm per hour with the same xp rate (each resource give less xp but same xp/hour)

@GuntWastelander 3 жыл бұрын

I’d be down for this

@mattdallas5671 3 жыл бұрын

Done. We removed every other drop, from now on the drop rates of unique will remain the same, but all non unique items are removed. We reduced XP gained per collected resource to match acquisition rate. Sincerely Jamflex

@biffii5568 2 жыл бұрын

Make every boss into nightmare, hmm, slunds miserable.

@Jumbo_Jym 3 жыл бұрын

Soooooooooo when's Mat coming back to fix those problems? Seeing that we're at 2.1k now, can you fix the entire economy too please? Thanks Mat you're the best. Only just found your podcast btw guys. Glad I did.

@carloswiley1223 18 күн бұрын

2 years later 12k likes Matt k needs to come back

@smaakmakend 3 жыл бұрын

absolute legend matt love the insights

@SeaGrea 3 жыл бұрын

how is rot still a thing

@user-tm6no2zo3e 3 жыл бұрын

They're the middle man for corrupt jmods who want to get paid without getting their hands dirty.

@colinandrew7423 3 жыл бұрын

Should of named it pod cast with madcow, raiksey and ricecup who ask Matt a question and answer it for him.

@dasguten4084 3 жыл бұрын

Amazons New World needs this tech so it doesn't lag every sec of the day

@D1Am0ndD00d 3 жыл бұрын

mod mat had to have some sort of say ini the music cape emote

@6500s1 3 жыл бұрын

Official client for Linux? Something better than snap perhaps, like at the very least appimage or even a couple of options for Debian and Arch based distros?

@jsminipro 3 жыл бұрын

I use Runelite flatpak

@dereksmith3187 3 жыл бұрын

There's probably more vr users than Linux users playing old school And I'm one of them

@6500s1 3 жыл бұрын

@@dereksmith3187 2021 - the year of GNU/Linux desktop. :D