The truth behind the Presidents' Trophy curse

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Жыл бұрын

After the Boston Bruins historical collapse, Corwin, Luca, Jesse and DZ discuss the so called "President's Trophy Curse."

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@dylanlopatin6125
@dylanlopatin6125 Жыл бұрын
After the panthers won it last year it felt like cup or bust. This year it feels like there’s no pressure and we’re just having fun. I agree with Jesse.
@jmarx3943
@jmarx3943 Жыл бұрын
The biggest choke job I've ever seen in hockey was team Sweden losing to Belarus in the Olympics. Boston doesn't even come close to that. A team stacked with nhl players lost to a team with none.
@JoeMagician
@JoeMagician Жыл бұрын
To add onto what happened with Ullmark, it's not that he was great and then was simply bad in the playoffs. He was great, and got injured pretty severely but the Bruins coaching staff kept playing him instead going to Swayman like they had all year for reasons unknown. This Bruins era going back to 2010 has been a series of pretty horrendous chokes except in 2011 and when against the Leafs for some reason. Getting to three cup finals is pretty amazing, losing 2 of 3 not so much. Nor getting reverse swept by the Flyers nor losing to the Panthers after the best regular season ever. Although in the Panthers defense, they're a lot better than their regular season record showed. Pretty much the same team that won the President's Trophy the season before, and it was a collective sense of dread that was the round 1 matchup. Most Bruins fans were hoping for the Islanders or Penguins if they snuck in, Panthers were like getting the Hurricanes again. A bad match up that played the bruins close all season.
@BenConeybeare
@BenConeybeare Жыл бұрын
Joe magician is a hockey fan??? Worlds collide - one of my favourite asoiaf creators following one of mu favourite sports
@JoeMagician
@JoeMagician Жыл бұрын
@@BenConeybeare yep, hockey is my favorite spectator sport. I'm even a Bruins fan, the horror.
@BenConeybeare
@BenConeybeare Жыл бұрын
@@JoeMagician hahah, I’m from the UK so I don’t have loyalty to a specific team in the same way, but I think the sport is incredible
@Oujump
@Oujump Жыл бұрын
ullmark sucks just getting carried by the defense the whole season and when his defense throw he does not even deserve to start boston
@mtlienz2279
@mtlienz2279 Жыл бұрын
​@@Oujump he has less than 10 playoff games of experience.....even Kuemper won a cup with a stacked Avs roster in front. If he was injured Bruins made bad choice not playing Swayman until the final game, worst game to change goalies. Bruins had their chance after historic season up 3-1. They are DONE! Bruins Pens Caps Bolts; powerful 20yrs push now they're done
@aqaz120
@aqaz120 Жыл бұрын
The last time a president winning trophy won a Stanley cup 2013 Chicago blackhawks
@consistxncy
@consistxncy Жыл бұрын
People forget that Florida is actually good, they just had a rough season. I think they are better than last year. They just got their mojo in time. Also, Tampa's historic season just to be swept by columbus I think is worst than Boston losing in 7.
@TheFerg
@TheFerg Жыл бұрын
No way is Tampa's worse. Boston broke all the season records by a lot. They then took a 3-1 lead in the series. Then in game 7 they had the lead with a minute to go.
@consistxncy
@consistxncy Жыл бұрын
@@TheFerg Boston's record is only 3 more wins than Tampa. They had chances the entire time. They were always in it. Maybe the bigger choke but I think Tampa's is more embarassing. Tampa never stood a chance. They just got smoked and swept the entire time not even competing ... and had to listen to that cannon fire off non stop. At that time, Tampa also broke the all time regular season record...
@TheFerg
@TheFerg Жыл бұрын
@@consistxncy Those "three" extra wins is what made them the most winningest team by games and by points in the regular season in the history of the NHL. Tampa only tied the record for wins at the time. Tampa got lulled into a false sense of security but no one had ever lost like that before. Boston saw it happen just a few years ago and knew they had to be careful. Boston went on to a 3-1 lead in the series and a series winning lead with one minute to go. Boston's choke is by far the worst.
@consistxncy
@consistxncy Жыл бұрын
@@TheFerg You write sensibly and make great points. I think at this point it's just my personal view of it. Both chokes are extraordinary and I hope we see more of it, love this sport.
@TheFerg
@TheFerg Жыл бұрын
@@consistxncy You are the second guy in a week to actually make a nice civil response on the internet and restore my faiith in humanity. You rock. In the end it's just a ridiculous judgement call but we can both agree it sucked for both teams equally. Ouch.
@TylrVncnt
@TylrVncnt Жыл бұрын
Presidents trophy kind of prevents that “chip on the shoulder” “F you” kind of hockey attitude that is by nature bestowed upon any team that faces a Presidents trophy winning team in the playoffs, no matter the round Winning it absolutely gives fuel to your opponents
@DILLIGAF0828
@DILLIGAF0828 Жыл бұрын
"why are we limiting it to the last 20 years?" Cause there was a completely new era of hockey being played from 04-05 and on. One win came from a lockout shortended season, and the other I don't have any excuse for. After that you had 2 cups wins, 1 cup loss, 2 conference finals, 7 second round exits, and 6 first round exits. That's not nothing. You have to at least acknowledge in the last 10 years the farthest someone made it was the conference finals in 14-15.
@kennysdead500
@kennysdead500 Жыл бұрын
The Rangers were good because they were thriving on revenge, but they were missing a center, consistent scorer, and then injuries did them in They even had to overcome a 3-1 lead, with two of the elimination games going to overtime, and game 5 was nearly lost in regulation, and the first round was a fairly close series The Bruins looked exactly like the 2015 Rangers, until they lost game 5 in overtime, then they reverted to last year's Penguins but without the injuries I miss that Rangers team, would have been great if they had like Buchnevich, Kucherov, and Mcdavid/Point, unlike Drury's stupid team, but that's besides the point, the 2015 Rangers, the Capitals, and the Lightning proved to me that overachieving in the regular season is going to hurt the team in the long run, but it is a good stepping stone to actually winning it all when they conserve themselves in the following seasons (Boston hasn't changed anything but coaching, which probably boosted them in the regular season in an unprecedented way, but their roster would be the same as always in the playoffs, plus regular season overtime success was not going to translate to playoff overtime success, especially for an older team)
@sinfulchimp586
@sinfulchimp586 Жыл бұрын
I belive that the presidents trophy has some meaning. Its an accomplishment to be the best regular season team. I think it has the same kind of value that individual trophies.
@gavinrector6505
@gavinrector6505 Жыл бұрын
It’s just too much pressure. It’s really hard to win when everyone is expecting you
@kosmicwizard
@kosmicwizard Жыл бұрын
Corwin, your last comment was hilarious!
@siimtokke3461
@siimtokke3461 11 ай бұрын
The fact that the Bruins broke the regular season win and point record and were knocked out of the playoffs in the first round is the reason why people say President's Trophy is cursed. Literally, no one would care if the President's Trophy winner goes out in the first round if it had not been such a dominant regular season.
@jacobfleenor1714
@jacobfleenor1714 Жыл бұрын
Honestly biggest choke could be seahawks in the SuperBowl. I know it's only one play but jeez...
@grant5941
@grant5941 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't even crack a top 50 list of worst sports choke jobs.
@ozzydo2314
@ozzydo2314 Жыл бұрын
I'd take Carey price at 80% healthy in the playoffs over any goalie in the league. Some goalies have the ability to steal a couple games. He has the ability to steal entire playoff rounds. Crosby and the penguins complained about having to play them the year Montréal went to the finals because they knew he was going to steal the series. It's a shame that during his entire career, only once did a player ever reach 80 points. It's a crime.
@ItsJared___
@ItsJared___ Жыл бұрын
1993, habs stink
@alecmorariu6291
@alecmorariu6291 Жыл бұрын
Price is top 4 all time
@masonwright7700
@masonwright7700 Жыл бұрын
No
@mariamanasewitsch2977
@mariamanasewitsch2977 Жыл бұрын
Y’all are too young to remember. The 1993-94 NY Rangers won the President’s Trophy, & the Stanley Cup BUT, they needed double OT to beat NJ Devils, twice to get to the finals & “the President’s Trophy Curse” was a VERY hot topic!!!!! Especially when Messier wouldn’t lift it or even touch it. Every sport & every team has superstitions about every sport. It’s became a topic of conversation, again when they met Vancouver & they blew a 3-1 lead in that series.
@Riqsuav1
@Riqsuav1 Жыл бұрын
Blackhawks in 2013, Redwings in 2008, Red Wings in 2002 and Stars in 1999. Last 4 Prez Trophy and Cup winners. Amazing. 4 teams in 24 years
@MaiquisonFernandes
@MaiquisonFernandes Жыл бұрын
In the words of a wise man.. the playoffs are a different beast!
@ethanjberman1628
@ethanjberman1628 Жыл бұрын
Love this
@FacxtTV
@FacxtTV Жыл бұрын
Patriots game wasn’t a choke. It was one single game with a crazy play. Unlike all these other choke jobs who blow series How about the Yankees blowing their sweep to the Sox ?
@sweetmapleleafs
@sweetmapleleafs 9 ай бұрын
The Presidents Trophy is nothing more than a bullseye on a team's back. An equalizer of sorts
@DanielCataloni
@DanielCataloni Жыл бұрын
As a fan of Boston/Massachusetts sports teams, I have to agree with Luca that the near perfect season the Pats had before losing the Super Bowl was the biggest choke. Though, in terms of the last 20-30 years, I’d actually have to say the lost to the Oilers in 1990 was big. They didn’t have Gretzky that year - they had a genuine shot to win the Cup, and STILL LOST to a team that had traded their best player.
@theAV8R
@theAV8R Жыл бұрын
I reckon anyone saying the PT is a curse is the same kind of person that says 'high school math is useless in the real world'. Given enough data points to reduce standard deviation, of course PT usually equates to better playoff odds. That said, there is definitely an offsetting negative pressure from expectations and pressure. 100%. But its not enough to counter the fact a team has a track record of playing well.
@IaHarbour
@IaHarbour Жыл бұрын
Bruins 2010 (as Luca mentioned) should be up there for biggest choke, given the reverse sweep (and the 3-0) in game 7
@Misfit14120
@Misfit14120 Жыл бұрын
I'm a diehard Sabres fan and I hate our President Trophy banner. Reminds me about that bad Sens series
@kristinjacobsen5413
@kristinjacobsen5413 Жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Luca for the sick PWHPA hat
@paules0099
@paules0099 Жыл бұрын
The reason why the President's Trophy teams fail in the playoffs is because they have everything going for them during the season. They rarely suffer major injuries, never have slumps, or losing streaks. Meaning, they have yet to face adversity. Now, come playoff time, when games don't go your way or questionable calls against you, you don't know how to respond. JMHO, I could be wrong...
@raymondrahim9591
@raymondrahim9591 Жыл бұрын
They were good in the Bergeron, Marchand, Chara era
@Emma_2Banks
@Emma_2Banks Жыл бұрын
Overconfidence is a stinger
@September2004
@September2004 5 ай бұрын
5:03 If it’s mainly Boston teams that choke the most then the Bruins better hope they meet my Canucks in this year’s Finals because they would win for sure!
@ryanwilliams5904
@ryanwilliams5904 Жыл бұрын
But the Warriors were in the finals. Boston didn't get out the first round against technically the 16th seed in the playoffs.
@ryanwilliams5904
@ryanwilliams5904 Жыл бұрын
Vintage Bruins, can't win when it really matters
@richardmanginelli2624
@richardmanginelli2624 Жыл бұрын
The Trophies Hart Vezina Rocket Richard Presidents ARE ALL MEANINGLESS THERES ONLY TROPHY THAT MATTERS LORD STANLEY'S !
@user-chog10thompson
@user-chog10thompson Жыл бұрын
0:58 that actually happened recently
@sonnyblack7226
@sonnyblack7226 Жыл бұрын
Correction " bruins only had lost one game 7 in finals against blues. Against chigago, it went 6 games. 👍
@lornequick2443
@lornequick2443 Жыл бұрын
The Sharks up 3 0 up against LA in the first round.
@mr_mckay4573
@mr_mckay4573 Жыл бұрын
I mean when was the last time the leafs or the jets made it to the finals and won it. Cause so far Boston has done it in the 2000s compared to the two other teams.
@zacharyyamashita8554
@zacharyyamashita8554 Жыл бұрын
Happened to my Sharks as well. The Curse is REAL.
@theswaggiestmelon9972
@theswaggiestmelon9972 Жыл бұрын
oh man i really liked corwin till i heard what he said at the end
@evanwalker4672
@evanwalker4672 Жыл бұрын
Buggest choke in SPORTS history is psg blowing a 3 goal pead in 8 min
@shrimpe2876
@shrimpe2876 Жыл бұрын
Objectively speaking, the Bruins collapse was way worse than the Warriors because at least the warriors won their conference.
@mediumdoubledouble9012
@mediumdoubledouble9012 Жыл бұрын
As much as I go on about the president trophy curse with my boys I watch the games with. It is not real. The league is that even. If you make the playoffs your team has enough skill to win. It’s just a chess match at that point all the way down from management to individual effort from guys on the roster.
@Chef.WolfHTT
@Chef.WolfHTT Жыл бұрын
Ride or die right now would be Schmid
@Aajb26
@Aajb26 Жыл бұрын
Playoffs are just so different. Lots to learn for the bruins
@rjhollinger
@rjhollinger Жыл бұрын
Let's go Panthers!
@Richard-pf5xs
@Richard-pf5xs 7 ай бұрын
the biggest choke by far is the 2023 Bruins by far
@sonnyblack7226
@sonnyblack7226 Жыл бұрын
Being a presidents trophy winner and losing first round is not bad...what's worse is that bruins had 3-1 series lead . Now thats bad 👍
@nav7881
@nav7881 Жыл бұрын
I think whoever wins the Presidents Trophy the team burns them selves out by playing so hard during the regular season and they run out of gas in the playoffs
@IaHarbour
@IaHarbour Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the Bruins were necessarily burnt out I think it was probably more down to bad timings with certain injuries and probably moreso the bad matchup they’ve had all season with Florida
@33TieGuy
@33TieGuy Жыл бұрын
Ha ha! What a comment to end on.
@leaf16nut
@leaf16nut Жыл бұрын
The Canucks out-choked the Bruins or they wouldn't have a cup 🤷‍♂
@Strategyboyz
@Strategyboyz Жыл бұрын
If the Bruins didn't win in 2011 it's kinda unreal how much they choke.
@MrSlimeyG
@MrSlimeyG Жыл бұрын
you aren't lying and i'm a hardcore bruins fan
@IaHarbour
@IaHarbour Жыл бұрын
even with the win it’s still pretty unreal. Basically only don’t choke when playing the Leafs
@Strategyboyz
@Strategyboyz Жыл бұрын
@@IaHarbour theyre 3-5 in game 7s. Guess who those 3 wins are against?
@jameson1239
@jameson1239 Жыл бұрын
The only reason the bruins run a cup in 2011 is because the Canucks out choked them
@braygun44
@braygun44 Жыл бұрын
Boston teams choke the most because they’re there the most.
@JSeriously
@JSeriously 11 ай бұрын
Panthers are not a real 8 seed. Simple as that. Curses don’t exist.
@schmongdingler
@schmongdingler Жыл бұрын
Yeah Boston teams choke the most…. 28-3
@HenockB-wl8rz
@HenockB-wl8rz Жыл бұрын
Its cursed
@viewfromthehighchair9391
@viewfromthehighchair9391 Жыл бұрын
You guys missed the MOST OBVIOUS explanation for President's Cup winning teams doing poorly in the first round. You see, the NHL does this incredibly stupid thing when the playoffs arrive; THEY CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE GAME. Whereas, you would get a penalty call (and power play) for an infraction against the other team, now you don't get the call and the team that is better at committing the minor fouls (like baby hooks, tugs on the jersey as examples) and not getting calls has a big advantage. It frankly surprised me that Boston still didn't win because they are the quintessential cheap and dirty team (while still be highly skilled); however, this time they met their match with Florida who are also very good at the cheap and dirty style of game. It actually surprised me more that Toronto beat Tampa Bay who are also that type of team (while still being highly skilled) and, I hear, do very well in the playoffs (LOL). Until the NHL decides to run the regular season and the playoffs under the same rules, the President's Cup Trophy will not mean a damn thing and will end up being a lead indicator for your eventual fall in the playoffs and the league will be the worse for it. I keep hearing about this nonsense about the Playoffs being a "tougher" game like that's something to be celebrated. It's rubbish!! I'll take a high skill playoff game every single day of the year. It might also make the referrees look a lot less like complete idiots who seem to have no idea what a penalty looks like. I've heard refs say they don't want to "change" the game by making a borderline call; however, they DO CHANGE THE GAME by not making the call. Bottomline: If you call the games in the playoffs the same way you call the regular season, then teams who do well in the regular season will likely do well in the playoffs too, all things being equal. Then, the wild card will be injuries, some players stepping up under pressure and some disappearing under pressure. The way the NHL is now, it is almost unwatchable in the playoffs and sometimes in the regular season as well. They should fix it once and for all.
@justinhockey2625
@justinhockey2625 Жыл бұрын
Yess that was a perfect explanation of how it’s been the last few years. They really do need the majority of the referees to look through the playbook and know the penalties/infractions
@viewfromthehighchair9391
@viewfromthehighchair9391 Жыл бұрын
@@justinhockey2625 I appreciate the support.
@999_4_lyfe
@999_4_lyfe Жыл бұрын
Biggest choke job in sports has to be 28-3 (sry falcon fans)
@highmedic2351
@highmedic2351 Жыл бұрын
Lol.
@leafsfan66
@leafsfan66 Жыл бұрын
leafs > bruins
@davidcorrow4070
@davidcorrow4070 Жыл бұрын
Lol crap bosten
@thegame346
@thegame346 Жыл бұрын
The Presidents Trophy lies to fans and teams. It makes people think the team that wins it is the best all around team when in reality they were just the best vs particular teams at particular times. It is not a true representation of what a team can do in a 7 games series vs the same team night after night. The Bruins were very good vs different teams during the entire series but against one team....the Presidents trophy does not always reflect that same skill
@alcitrullo3124
@alcitrullo3124 Жыл бұрын
I saw that 96 Wings team that set the wins record play the Leafs at the Gardens. They lost to the Avalanche in the conference finals. Bruins losing to the Panthers is the biggest upset in NHL history. I don't know about choking, but definitely disappointing. The Warriors had Draymond Green suspended during that finals and Cleveland had Lebron. Yes that was a choke job because of the series lead, but that was the finals. The Warriors didnt lose in the first round. Boston should be embarassed by what happened against Florida. The Bruins were historically disappointing.
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