The iPad works amazingly the box came a little dirty, kzfaq.infoUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA no plastic wrap, but the box was sealed and had everything else in the box along with the wrapping, the iPad itself is gorgeous, I got the yellow 64g game storage is good for me along with Socials and school stuff. No scratches or marks came with the charger and box fast speed, and if you are buying a pen get the 1st gen don’t make the mistake I did !!

Great post. I've owned 5 generations of iPad over the last 12 years and it took me til now, (having 2 kids and needing to get stuff done) that a Surface Pro was the all in one device I needed. I've been using a work issue Surface Pro 6 for the last 3 years and to this day it covers what I need to do the most efficient with little to no compromise...

Finally, the SP9 is an excellent device, and MS has refined this to the point of peak evolution, and I would recommend it for Windows fans even if they do not use the tablet part. Please wait until the price drops, as they are a bit expensive. I got an SP8 for a family member for £600 about 4 months after the launch, and as we already had the keyboard and pen, it was a bit of a bargain. No point in upgrading from SP8 to SP9, obviously!

In the end, you explained it so well with use cases. No other KZfaqr thought about that. Much Appreciated!

9:40 - "iPad is the perfect media consumption device" - half of the screen is the black borders due to the bad ratio for media consumption 😬😬😬

If you want a device to complement your existing desktop or laptop computer then the IPad Pro M2 is probably overkill and overpriced. An IPad Air or 10 gen would probably be a far better choice. I don’t know for who the IPad Pro is made for. It is a seriously limited device compared to a computer and it costs the same or even more.

Another way to view this video is the iPad Air M1 is a fantastic value at this point. If at the end of the day, these two devices are a toss-up at their price point, then the iPad Air M1 is truly the winner and a steal for the price.

An iPad (Pro) user for over 10 years since day 1. Finally had ENOUGH of iPadOS/iOS restrictive and limited wall garden. Power doesn't mean squat if you can't use it. Got a Surface Pro 9 5G, BUT Microsoft still has a long ways to work on those Translation/Emulation layers, refine the touch/gesture interface and widen the portrait aspect ratio. Qualcom and Dimensity's part needs to improve their chips because I really believe Windows and Linux on Arm will be the future the majority of people. As a gamer, I'll still stick with x64 however.

Just grabbed an M1 iPad Pro for a steal, pretty happy with it thus far. Using it to replace my Surface Pro 3 ( which still works and has been my only device for years).

iPad will never be better than a Surface Pro unless they put MacOS on an iPad

One feature would change this equation for me - Extended external monitor support for the iPad. Until Apple allows this, I agree with you.

Love my surface pro 8, my fav device by far, I use it every single day in addition to my workstation, take it on holidays (super light weight), can use with team viewer to run my workstation remotely...connect to multiple screens ...it's just incredibly versatile.

Honestly it depends on what you need. As an accounting student, I need practically most microsoft apps and some software so Surface Pro is way to go

Yeah dude. It really depends on how people use them and what they need them for. I got an iPad mini, and it was my little companion buddy for like a month. And then I realized it just acts like a phone. It is just a slightly bigger phone. When I actually need to create something or work, I go to my desktop. My iPad mini is basically collecting dust right now. I can't get over the "oversized phone" concept, from everything to the lack of customization to your home screen to the lack of windowed applications. I like it, it is well build and smooth as butter, but it doesn't really fix what I needed fixed. I should have saved and purchased a new Surface Pro. 🤷‍♂️

All the power of M2 but it can’t open a website, it can’t resize an image on Notion, a lot of features are missing on Photoshop and Illustrator. I regretted buying iPad Pro

Best comparision I've seen yet on these 2 devices

The surface is a laptop. Ipad is a giant iPod touch.

Both of these devices are truly a mark of its time, I don't think you can go wrong with either! I just think it's exciting that technology has reached a point where such devices even exist. Great video as always!

I would love to get your thoughts on the 5G Surface Pro 9 (which only comes w/ SQ 3) against 5G iPad Pro. As a online student and soldier I must have cellular service.

I chose surface pro

Apple really needs to put a touch friendly full blown OS that takes advantage of professional full fat desktop apps (especially with the power of apple silicon now). I hate the app based file management on iOS/iPadOS. I love my Macs and OSX but I think I prefer Widows to iPad toy like OS any day.

Right now you can get the pro 9 (i5 16gig/256) with the keyboard at Costco for 1100. Hard beat at that price.

Surface pro 9 all the way!! Full fledge computer in a tablet form. 💯💯💯

iPad is for sure one of the most useless devices on market.

Spot on review. I have tried a few times to use an iPad on the go for my small business. The battery life is awesome but otherwise my Surface Go is better overall for productivity. I think the iPad would only be better for artists.

I would go with the surface mostly because it has chrome extensions unlike the ipad

I find it so sad that none of these reviewers are gamers and care about framerates, graphics settings and throttling. They only think about video editing.

Nobody is talking about it, but the charger you need for surface is bigger, similar to the MacBook, it needs 65w. Where as iPad Pro can be charged with your iPhone charger (change the cable to usb c). Small, handy and cheap. All in all, of course, surface is a better device for all office work. For ex, try to compare folder and file contents of two folders, good luck w that on an iPad and count how many clicks and switches you need for this simple task

I’ve been using the iPad Pro 12.9 w/ the magic keyboard as my main dev device for the last six months. The only thing hate, the mobile iPad browsers just suck compared to the full browser on Windows. For me, the other pros of the iPad outweigh the cons. But the iPad Pro a terminal for remote into other machines, me due to the limitations mentioned. Jon nailed it, I cannot use this as a stand alone device until the browsers are equal.

Exactly spot on. Unless they put a “macos” on the ipad it will never be usable for work. I can’t be 100% without my MacBook Pro. Also considering the surface Pro9 as the prices from Apple in Europe have become crazy. And by the way, I already left the Apple ecosystem as I gave my MacBook and Ipad to my sons for school. I’m currently using an HP from work which is perfect.

I’m at a crossroads with my SP6 likely to fully die this year. Since I meanly use it as a writing and content consumption device, the iPP is tempting

Just further underscores how Apple needs to make a tablet Mac. iPadOS is really nifty but sorely lacking in both the OS and available software. Linux, macOS, and Windows all let you accomplish anything you can think of. iPadOS lets you accomplish "most" things one team at Apple deem you worthy of accomplishing. I've got an M1 iPad Pro and a 2018 MacBook pro. While the iPad is twice as "powerful" as the laptop it's only 1/10 as capable and as John alluded to it's really just an expensive portable television.

I heard surface pro has battery issue. Is it true?

I own both iPad pro M1 and surface pro 8. I go for months without using my iPad. It's not as functional as my surface. I really hope Apple makes big improvements to the iPad OS otherwise I don't recommend the iPad at all!

I didn’t understand some things at 1st with the iPad Pro. It’s the fine line between Mac & tablet. If you don’t have a computer, then go with the surface. I prefer Mac & iOS, but if I didn’t have a Mac already, that’s exactly what I’d do, get the surface and get used to running windows. I’m not mad at either machine 😂

Surface Pro 9 is the best on the world 🎉🎉🎉

I am migrating from an M1 iPad Pro to an i7 Surface Pro because I’m fed up with the concessions I have to make with MS Office and Adobe CC on the iPad. I’ll hang onto in case Apple ever decides to give it a more desktop-friendly OS.

I choose the iPad Pro ONLY because I have MacBooks and iMacs but if I didn’t I would choose the Surface Pro👌🏾

“Very similar” I don’t think so, I use virtual machines on my surface for fedora and kali as well as another one for windows testing grounds for forensics (also is terminal accessible on iPads?),the surface is much better of a choice between the 2 imo, u just can’t do everything that u can on the surface on the iPad

I would go SP9, the Ipad Pro while having impressive hardware is overpriced for what it can do. I do not get paying that much tor an ipad when a Macbook Air is more useful because of its software and can be had cheaper.

I have an iPad 12 pro and still trying to figure out what’s pro about it. It’s a good tablet but after all these iPad OS updates, sadly that’s still what it is.

What does “industrial” aiming to describe?

Whit the M1 OR M2 processor in the iPad I would have loaded the ipad with MacOS and switch the Interface if its in the keyboard cover to MacOS and iPad OS when it's not connected. Everyone know it can run a full OS

Similar but very different. The Surface Pro 9 is superior because it has a fully functioning O/S. I only have Apple products but I will never get the iPad Pro because of the inferior O/S. On the flip-side, the iPad Pro has the better hardware - superior battery life and superior screen. Mate MacOS with the iPad Pro and I will buy it.

Best thing about the SP 9 is that I picked up an SP8 for a great price. I had Linux running on it a few hours later. Gnome is pretty much the best tablet GUI available IMHO.

I had one in each hand and couldn’t decide. Even though I’m fully immersed in the apple eco system, the rest of the world is MS & mostly my work hence my sway to a surface pro 9 intel i7. I toyed with the decision despairingly for a few weeks whilst using my HP for work, M1 MBP & 2018 10” iPad Pro on the fly and M1 Mac Mini at home. In the end it came down to Fan Noise ! I detest fan noise. Right now my crappy work HP i5 ELITE BOOK is whirring away annoyingly with only a few programs running, a browser with a handful of tabs open, Outlook is running, Teams is running and a PDF reader. So ya, I walked away with the M2 6th Gen 12” iPad, Magic Keyboard & Pen and even though, since recent iPad OS 17 update i can use (only 1 ffs) full width monitor as extended display, I still doubt my decision and the very expensive investment….

THE TRUTH! TOTAL SHOCK!!!! What’s missing is THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!!!! and could use some more exclamation points… 🙄 Why? Is stuff like this really necessary? 😕

I have a surface pro 7. It's great and I use it everyday.

I think it depends on what question is asked. If someone asks. “What computer i should get?” The answer is the surface. Is someone asks “what tablet should I get?” The answer is the iPad. Not the pro though. Nobody should be buying the pro. Get the air.

my thought exactly

both are for completely different consumer section that sometimes overlaps. If all you do is email and surf, ipad can do it with phenomenal battery life. If you do anything remotely close to what computer program does, then surface pro is absolutely best windows tablet out there.

A fairer comparison would be a Macbook Pro vs the SP9. The iPad Pro M2 is too limited by iPadOS and Apple for this to be even a debate.

You advertise a russian VPN company? The one the german goverment send out warnings not to use Kaspersky what so ever? Brave dude, very brave.

Couldn't agree more. Surface pro 9 is amazing and versatile. Intel 12 gen is significant jump in performance than 10 or 11, making pro now a joy to use. iPad Pro doesn't make sense anymore to me...Drawing and writing digitally are imperative for my use case and Microsoft Journal and Rebelle 5 alone offer impressive experience. Drag and drop, clipboard, multitasking snap frames, always on top etc are some standard features I just can't work without. IPadOS can't even do that for similar price. Of course Apple products are way overpriced and overrated courtesy die-hard fan base always on media stroking their self-esteem to justify their spend. My loyalty is only towards innovation and better value and I haven't seen either from Apple for quite some time now. After 2018 iPad Pro, all my upgrades didn't really feel like any better experience... Doesn't matter how powerful the hardware maybe iPad OS won't let us make the most of it... You buy a ferrari but can't take it outside the parking... So just go with other cheaper ipads because they offer better value and same OS.

Similar how?

If you need a tablet for tablet things get and ipad mini or a normal ipad

bravo great video!👏👏👏

I have the surface pro 9, battery life is terrible smh I also have iPad Pro 11inch and it last hours

Surface Windows UI not touch friendly, windows apps, including games are also not touch friendly at all. If Surface can implement all the iPad home and multitask touch gesture it would be perfect. I love the windows wide usability, but hate its touch gestures that require more than 2 fingers to work, which iPad can done all of that by using only one finger, no need to rise my palm to do it.

I bought the surface pro 9

We can't handle the trurth!

Since two years ago my iPad Pro is my main computer, it works great but it needs to improve its multitasking.

Happy Holidays! I could not have said it better. However, I often wonder why there are so many iPad comparisons between Microsoft’s Surface Pro. One can certainly compare them, but I ask why you would. One product is a mobile operating system that does an excellent job of being a tablet. By adding a keyboard and touchpad goes a long way to make it more productive and laptop like. But at the end of the day, it’s a mobile operating system tablet, though a very powerful one. When I think of a laptop computer, I certainly would include Apple MacBook products. But when I think of tablets to compare, I would consider the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra. I certainly can compare the Samsung Galaxy S8 Ultra to my laptop computer, but again why? I can understand if you are someone who does not need a computer and your smartphone and tablet meet all your needs, well then you are all set. You have your Apple iPhone and iPad and that is all that is needed. And I can see the same for a Samsung Galaxy S smartphone and Galaxy Tab S tablet user. But once you determine you need a computer laptop, then a mobile operating system tablet just will not do. I see nothing wrong with having all three form factors, a smartphone, tablet and laptop. That said, Windows PCs offer a design and form factor that Apple products do not and that is the integration of the tablet design in their laptops along with 2 in1 convertible form factors. Apple has no offering, which is unfortunate. Apple should consider adding a MacBook 2 in 1 convertible form factor for a premium price and let their customers decide if that is of value to them. I hear that is not the direction Apple is willing to go, due to the potential impact to iPad sales. I understand, but I can only imagine how Apple would design their convertible laptop. I hope Apple will consider this sometime in the future. Only time will tell.

You need to get out more! There are loads of pro apps; from DaVinci (in beta) to Procreate and many others that are very good. With Stage Manager in beta 16.2 looking much better, you are a bit too negative about the iPad, and I suspect for many people it could easily be their only device. My parents, for example, have ditched their laptops and gone with iPad Pro. For them, it is far better than Windows which has been a mess for many years, though finally, W11 is trying to repair that. Even for me, 95% of my work is on an iPad and just need a Mac for 5% (using a 6-y-o MB Pro 15).

Nice video Jon!

All great points!

Hope next gen surface has a 5G with x86 this year and 100% DCIP 3 DISPALY

iPads went from a no brainer to one of the most overpriced and overrated devices on the market

Great video 👍

Hi it’s a challenge to 1 million, build a laptop computer with an ipad pro or galaxy tab ultra screen, the battery of an ipad pro and the motherboard of the surface pro 9. we are tired of making concessions because of builders.#ipadpro #galaxytab #surfacepro9

Everyone always says that the Surface pro software is better because it has Windows. True, you can run full apps on the surface but the real question is: do you really want to? Most apps run like crap on the surface because its cooling sucks and has no where near enough power to run apps effectively. The end result is a sluggish experience with frequent crashes and insane battery drain plus overheating/throttling. This heat will destroy your battery, leading surface devices to have much poorer longevity than ipads. Also, you will have way more software bugs and glitches on a surface than an ipad simply due to windows compatibility issues. Sure you get windows, but you also get all the bugs and crashes associated with windows.

0:53 Uhmm. Think again. The design is from October 2018. That’s only a little over 4 years.

I would buy an iPad Air for the pen and sketch experience

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I have no idea why people buy ipads i think those in charge laugh at them ... honestly if you are really into apple ecosystem the just buy ipad air 4th gen its more than enough for any app and you save like at least 600

Imagine telling someone apple products are chep cheap ones now a day

Finally, a very objective n clarifying review...especially i am in d midst of deciding whether an ipad pro 12.9 (never had any experience with Apple gadgets before) or a Surface Pro 9 (had bad experience with Surface Pro X first generation). At least,d way this review distinguished it n made my choice easier is whether i have any primary laptop or not.

Samsung galaxy tab s7 my go to for quick and easy computing. My tab s8+ for more robust tasks, multitasking, content viewing and posting. Love the case keyboard. Both sync with my TV, earbuds and other devices, effortlessly. Both receive regular updates. I have a 360 Windows laptop so don't need surface. Don't like iPad.

How can I get that background????

Hi please can I have an iphone and AirPods and an iPad for my brother because his dose not work and there is a hidden crack in the middle so he can’t use it he has to use my iPad so please

It’s should have been iPad Pro vs surface Pro x

He’s right, most of y’all made up your minds on software already. If you know what you want, why are you here?

No headphone jack is junk

The surface can't even play killer instinct

I've gone for a mac book air pro 2. Tablet wise I'm more than happy with my ipad mini, having moved from a larger ipad. I've had several android tablets, and whilst Samsung products the best for android, these days it's easy to work between us and android seamlessly (I use an LG v60). And I've been disappointed with Google's approach to tablets whereas Apple has gone from strength to strength with updates being provided for several years. I've had a Microsoft Surface of one sort or another over the past several years and enjoy those to. For creativity, mind mapping, reading, content creation and content consumption, the ipad is my first choice. For MS Office, corporate apps... The surface. The surface has a great kick stand but windows just isn't designed from the ground up for touch based interaction. And that's as someone who enjoyed windows phone UI and metro interface which still lives on to some extent with windows. What is great is the choice and the competition that prevents companies from settling on their laurels.

Surface is the way to go u got the iPad pro and you can't use it for school I can't even take a darn test on it I have to go and buy a laptop lmao 🤪 I got windows laptop so I don't even have issues

what truth exactly? hmm

Umm... Why are you comparing a tablet to a full fledged PC? This video makes no sense. It's like comparing a dollar store calculator to a Ti83.

I would go for both because each have there uses if you need a PC surface 100%. If you just want a nice drawing tablet to watch Netflix iPad 😂 still rocking the m1 air 😂

I still haven’t used anything Windows since mid 2007, so the choice easy for me.

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hahaha. 1:22 microsoft, a software company, best invention is a kickstand. that must hurt. as a surface pro user and fan, the battery life is nothing less that rat poo. but i pretty much agree with everything jon said. ipad is a big phone. surface pro is a whole shebang but with crappy battery life.

Surface Pro 9 is a computer with touchscreen. iPad is a tablet.

I’d take any surface device over apple computers and tablets. I like to have what freedom Microsoft allows over locked down ipad and Mac OS

Hahahah people who never had an lpad pro will never know how good a Tablet can be

For both devices there are much better alternatives! As you said I am also using my iPad Pro mainly for media consumption, surfing, light office task and remote access when I am not in a working environment. For these kind of things the actual iPP is way overpriced and overpowered! I am using a 2017 12.9 iPP with the Smart Cover for this! I don't need the M2 or a keyboard for this device. This is a good tablet but a very bad Laptop because it runs iPad OS! I replaced my Surface Pro some years ago with the Surface Laptop! The Surface Pro is a very bad tablet because it runs Windows. For this the Surface Laptop is much better and it even has a touch screen if I really need the pencil or the fingers on a laptop with is very rarely the case...

One is a computer , the other not

Speaks very raro😑

I have a surface pro and a iPad Pro. Honestly the surface pro is total garbage. I now only use it to run software for a Photo Booth because as a daily driver the OS is so difficult to get things done. And I wish they would figure out how to make a accurate display that is responsive to touch correctly.

I would personally just buy a Mac laptop over these two options.