Please if you have any questions that I didn’t touch on. Feel free to ask. This bike I rotate in between the sl8 and its working great

The dentist beside your shop must be your number 1 customer

I ordered one from Aliexpress and they are shipping to the US. The availability of a rim brake version sealed the deal for me.

I have this group set, last week or so. They did an update on the app. And added amt+ technology. So a Garmin now connects with gearing and battery life with the rear derailleur. That's a big plus. But yes, the way that you adjust the shifting and the gears. It's very non-intuitive. It does work but you really have to spend some time to figure it out. The update was definitely welcome though for the Garmin. Lastly, I figured out if you leave it in casual mode, the derailleurs fully go to sleep. If you leave it in race mode, the derailleurs does not fully go to sleep and you'll lose battery life slowly. And then at 20%, it automatically goes to casual mode. That's all in the update

I'm just glad stuff like these are out there, goes to show that it is doable for that price range.

Grant is the kind of guy who measures his hand with his other hand. ‘Oh, look. It’s one hand big.’ ;) Love your videos dude.

If you have questions that I did not touch on please let me know. I rotate this bike into the fleet and try to ride once a week if not once every other week. Never had an issue of dropped connection or faulty shifting. Just the main issue is software and a little faster front mech shifting would be preferred

I bought two of these. I believe for western customers, this groupset is better used for their secondary bikes due to the warranty. In China though, wheeltop's warranty policy is superb, I broke my front Derailleur cage due to my own fault, but they replaced mine with new cage free of charge. This groupset has come a long way after May's firmware update, know we have ant+ function so gearing can be seen on bike computers. The auto trimming seems to be a lot quiter on the front derailleur when riding in large chainring than it used to be. Also, the newer version of manual makes it much easier to setup this group (I hope newer manual will be avalible in English). At this moment, my main complains are the stiff shifter hood, which makes the brake bleeding a real pain. Also, waterproofing on both shifters and derailleurs, as there are report of water intrusion on all these parts after heavy rain riding. But in my overall experience with the group is pretty positive. If wheeltop solves all the issue I mentioned above, the EDS TX will be a very competitive groupset on the market. To those who keeps complaining about the pricing of this kit, please remember a 105 di2 groupset can be had at this price because of questionable sources these 105 di2 come from. If you can buy a set of 105 di2 in retail packaging at this price, then ignore my words. Also, an random seller on Xianyu is selling what he claims to be a set of counterfeit 105 di2 , I hope thats a scam, but it is worring.

I appreciate the video and honesty, everyone must decide if worth buying, there is not a chance i would take this over 105 DI2 ,

I love my Wheeltop EDS TX! I got it on Ali for a great deal and replaced my Shimano 105 mech with this setup mostly because I couldn’t keep up with 4 cables in my integrated handlebar. 5 thumbs up so far and even through rain. Time will tell though 👌

Rims brake owner will be happy 🎉

Great value and from where it is, it's a group set that can only get better. I'd be willing to get this and install. I think 90% of riders would use it

We all wish we had a bigger knob to hold onto 😂

Given the price 105 Di2 is available for, it isn't cheap enough to bother with once you factor in spares availability etc....

Got mine on AliExpress. Under $600 for rim brake version. Installed on my Titanium tandem with S&S couplers. The fact that it is wireless made the upgrade easy. I thought about Shimano R8000 Ultegra, but that would have been about $1200. And running wires through the frame, past the front bottom bracket eccentric chain tension adjustment would have been very difficult. Only problem I had is on the tandem, the rear derailleur is much further away and sometimes, it doesn't get the signal to shift, and I have push shift button again. But very happy with it so far! And you are are right, the app not great, took me quite awhile to figure out.

I am considering this product for sure the manufacturer will take on board the quality issues concerning the operation of the app and upgrade the software to make the interface more user intuitive

If compare speed of changing gears on stand or under load with shimano do it on shimano chain. Kmc chain are allways louder and slower on shimano crank and cassette than shimano chain.

have had my sram red axs since its release and have mounted it on 2 bikes now. Still the same batteries. Same with my older Ultegra 6800 Di2, since 2016 and still have alot of juice on its original batteries…It’s the best investment i did on a bike ever. I got what i paid for. I think you will get what you pay for with this set too😁

I like the micro adjust through the app. I think it's great!

I was upgrading my cyclocross bike (also used as a gravel bike and winter road bike) to 12speed electronic groupset from 11speed mechanical Ultegra/105 less than a month ago and this groupset was among the top considerations of what to go for. In the end I went for SRAMano - Apex AXS shifters, Rival AXS front mech, second hand Rival AXS rear mech, Magene PES P505 Base powermeter cranks with Shimano Ultegra chainrings (currently in 46/34 configuration, as I need to buy an adaptor to move the mech up to clear 50t big ring), 105 cassette, XT chain, XT rotors and Sram Level TLM brake calipers I had laying around with Shimano adaptors to fit flat mount fork - that cost me pretty much the same price, but also included a 105 cassette. If there was even cheaper variant of this groupset without the calipers with option to fit existing Shimano ones, I would most likely go with this one, but that's no longer available. Hearing your thoughts about the EDS TX, I'm glad I decided to go with what I did (I'm just not the biggest fan of tlSram's shifting logic, but that's not a huge deal and will likely change once I'll convert to 1x with GRX 820 chainring for cyclocross races).

I opted for the LTwoo ER9 groupset. It has it's quirks and issues, but the app at least lets you adjust in real time and batteries are replaceable. Also at this point, if the ER9/X does have issues, it's most likely related to the RD. Replacement parts are currently available for purchase.

The best option with this will be to buy the new 13 speed sram cassette that’s coming out and going 1x.

I have lived for 6 years in China before 20 years in the USA, I own a wheeltop eds tx with a 13 speed cassette, everything works very well and I am very satisfied .In China, the 13 speed 11-34 cassette is already produced and there is an announcement that in 3 months the xdr 14 speed 10-36 cassette will be released ,chains for 13 speed have been produced for a year,the same chain will be able to be used for 14 speed ,what is happening now in China in the bicycle industry is frame 650 gram with a fork 870-890 gram , formed two companies ltwoo and wheeltop that produce groups of high quality fixtures and applicable from 7 to 14 speed no need to buy a new flu when the cartridge manufacturer will release a cartridge for 13 or 14 speed. greetings from Shenyang China.

I love mine, has been going well so far. I paired it to Magura calipers and it brakes amazingly well !!! (Original calipers were ok, pads are the same as Shimano road) but magura is way better. Configuration takes a while, but I got used to it, you also only need to do it once, so… I like that I can upgrade the cassette to 12 or 13 spds and not need new shifters and brakes …

Please stop saying full groupset when is missing the crank, rotors, cassette, chain

So I just saw the new Pinnarello with hidden thru-axle on drive side and just realized that Windspace has already done it 😅

Very nice review j- thanks. Some Riders in the TDR are seeing Electronic group set failure in the cool BC/Montana weather. A trait of any lithium battery. An interesting test would be to see how far the charge on the battery drops if you cool the batteries. Try placing the bike in a meat locker in a neighboring store for a few hours, then re check battery life ?

Guys next few weeks I wil got wheeltop eds tx with 14 speed cassette 10-36

As much as I'd love to have that bike, I ride rural routes and my tcr is covered in cow and horse 💩 🤣 you guys must have super clean roads cause that white looks mint

You can setup individual bikes in strava btw.

This type of products is bringing back some openness (cross-compatibility and reuse) to the bike industry. But some consumers prefer being locked in.

What about service? Bleeding, spare parts, sending to service center or having a service manual, support for consumers. You know, everything we use to have provided by local Shimano/Sram dealer.

Theyre selling on amazon cheaper than aliexpress! Shipping to US

**************Long awaited review************* :)

Great review, thank you. Will this be compatible with bike computers, in my case Bryton?

The value proposition is not there. Once you buy a crankset and cassette you are in 105 Di2 price ranges. 105 will be better and hold more value.

Would the shift quality not be primarily influenced by the chainrings, shain and cassette? So a legacy DA, Ultegra or 105 10sp mechanical base should still shift fine. A gross oversimplification would be a rear der is just a chain jockey wheel that guides a chain and a front der just shoves the chain back and forth. So really its mostly all in the control system designed around it all. Synchro shift, auto trim, firmware support, etc. I just have a feeling e-tube's going to be supported for many years. What you showed? Who knows. Non replaceable battery and sketchy app makes it a no-go for its price point

That’s a wicked looking bike! I’m looking for a groupset to put on a Panorama Cycles Taiga EXP 2 dropbar steel tour/gravel frame set and was thinking about the LTWOO GRT 12 but will look further into this one. The LTWOO one is relatively inexpensive and well reviewed in general but it’s mech. You seem to think the Wheeltop one good value. It’s funny I have been Shimano all the way but because of the prices I’m only looking at the Chinese groupsets now. Do you think it works for a gravel bike? Can’t see why not but maybe there’s something I haven’t considered.

About 2 week ago, I emailed the folks at wheeltop and they stated that they are almost ready to start shipping to the USA. It was close enough that they asked me if I was interested in being one of the first ones to purchase an upgrade kit. I declined because I had already ordered a set from AE. But it seems they’re making strides to ship to USA as soon as possible.

I think its too expensive. Why would I get this when I can get shimano 105 Di2 12 speed for the same price in aliexpress?

i don't have a problem with chainees shifting i'm just scared about the brakes

You can pick what bike you rode in Strava to record millage for each bike..

you can proclaim a product is amazing or great if you put a disclaimer on its other parts in this case the the FD and its shifting under load or during climbs😅

nice review. Does it have front derailleur AUTO TRIM? 2nd Q - do the levers have a reach adjustment for smaller hands? thanks

One to watch but it feels like anyone buying it now will be basically expensive beta testers

Does the rear automatically default to Shimano spacing for however many speeds you have? And if it does, will it also be able to accommodate Campy spacing? 11sp is pretty much the same between the two but 10sp is not. And will it store wheel profiles if I want to mix things up? Say a Campy 10 and a Shimano 11? I ask because my trainer is Shimano only but my bike is Chorus 10. I built a Campy spaced cassette out of an Ultegra one and it works but it would be nice if it no longer mattered. As for price, you can maybe get the same parts in 105 or Rival for less, IDK, but that means you are locked in. I'd have to replace everything on my bike for that to work and this will be much cheaper. And besides, I don't have disc brakes.

What is price difference between this and same components for Shimano or SRAM (i.e. without crank arm, rear cassette)? Seems like this is for people who have mechanical looking to go electronic. I think that needs to be emphasized.

3:08 No!No!No! GC. The PROS are NEVER gonna use this group-upset!

thar front mech looks 1000000 times better than my sram red axs

Can you make a vídeo explaining how to set up properly the gears? I cant find anywhere

looks like it shifts better than my 11 speed red etap lol

i love eds tx. already test it in down pour rain it flawless. but i hope they will fix the brake caliper in term of cosmetic. hope they can make it slimer and remove the golf texture. hate it. make dirt trap on it.

I've been using the older MTB version that they said not to do a review on due to patent infringement with SRAM. It is a great system and works wonderful. Not as fast as Sram or Shimano but gets the job done. I really dislike the app as well and that is the major downside. Last year the app was worse than it is now if you can believe that! So at least they have improved it which means there could be improvements in the future.

Too pricey. £670 for 105 Di2, which includes shifters, FD, RD, brake calipers, crankset, cassette, chain, and battery. EDS TX £487 only includes shifters, FD, RD, brake calipers, and integrated batteries (no crankset, chain, or cassette). Mad....

This groupset shines when bought as part of a bike. 2 werks ago, i received a full carbon (including 50mm rims and integrated handlebar) bike with the wheeltop groupset. Fully internally routed with wheeltop hydraulic diskbrakes. All in all, with shipping (to Europe), i paid 1100 USD. You read that right. 1100 USD. Ive now ridden around 750km on it to test, and aside from my setup errors (which were all fixed), its been flawless!

Comparing this groupset with Shimano & SRAM isn't fair (in terms of price), I think.. but, how about this eds tx vs Ltwoo erx? Which one better?

Wasn't there an option for race shift but it meant battery life would drop much faster? I've got the mtb version of this which doesn't seem to offer race shift. Might have been deleted in a SW/FW update?

I am wondering about buying either a used 8050 or a wheeltop. How far do you feel I can ride on a single charge?

Got 2 Ltwoos & work great,rest of my bikes are rim, can the batteries be replaced on the Wheeltop ,in other words are there removeable screws or are thet riveted on ??

What disc brake pads does it use?

The wheel top in comparison to the Ltwo one wich would u prefer??

Will i be able to use this 1by, my bike is 12 speed mechanical and I dont any attachment points for the front derailleur?

A little off topic but do you use valve extenders with “deep dish” rims? Seems I cannot find 80mm intertube valves at 700x25-32.

I want to get rid of problems internal cables creat.

Can‘t believe you do not put different bikes in your Strava Garage so you are able to filter the rides for videos like this. You do not need multiple Strava Accounts, one is enough

"I like big nobs and I cannot lie" lol

the APP f!!!!!!!!!!!nightmare if you are not a Geek{like me} For what it is i am very happy gear changes are fast enough for me and I suspect the majority of riders out there in cycling paradise

Does Strava separate out the mileage of the various bikes you use and enter?

Hi, what saddle were you using on the bike?

Do you pay to have your videos glow brighter than all the others? Does anybody else see that or am I trippin

What about the MTB-system?

is it better than cable shifting?

You can say all you want, Bro. But the Oilers will take it to game 7.

Can I put a 12 speed Shimano 105 or Ultegra on my rim break road bike with this groupset?

I wonder if the brifters will work with shimano calipers...anyone tried it?

Does it have an on the fly trim function?

how come your tires are brand new, even those tiny rubber pins still sticking from it after 800 miles ? seems fraud

If you have any issues, how do you get it serviced? I don’t see any local shop taking it unless it says shimano or sram on it.

Price

What does debugging in the app do?

But does it have a auto trim function?

Why buy this when you have a full 105 DI2 groupset for 1000€ which includes crankset, cassette, chain, and bottom bracket.

Costs too much compared to Di2 105

Shifters and derailleurs are not a groupset.

shifting sounds loud and clunky

Sram axs with blips for me for tt

Shimano is really not connecting faster ...

Mine pairs fast enough! its not a computer bro lol

EDS Texas? Isn't that Ross Perot's old company? I think they got sold to HP.

I got this groupset for ￥2650($365), and now sold it before it broke.(Paid about twice for a Force eTap AXS shifters and Rival RD cause I use 1x) The built quality is only so so but good enough for the price tag. The rubber hoods are maybe too thick because after I flipped it open to install them, there left some marks where I folded them. As the video had shown, you can put three fingers under the hoods, but your middle finger will rest on the square part and its not comfortable. The app is crap. One day before my ride I updated the firmware for the groupset, and the RD's tweak settings went off a bit, the gear I use the most was jumping all the time. When I stop to tweak it, the tweak interface for the RD went blank. And I have to live with the clicking chain for the rest of my ride. The app functioned again after another firmware update. Before anything else worse could happen, I sold this groupset and bought a safer option, the last gen Force eTap AXS because it doesn't have cables.

2:49 Without 15 speed groupsets??????? Now u make me mad

On Aliexpress, this partial incomplete “ groupset” is $560 and on Merlincycles, the Shimano 105 Di2 actual real full groupset is $996. So, in terms of cache, support, warranty, and resale value there is NO logical reason to buy this. None.

Loves smacking his hands

Bargain if it holds up over time

Not even close to worth the price when you can build a full Rival AXS - with cranks, casette, chain for basically the same price piecemeal over ebay. I've spent just over $1k to go full Rival and that included wheels on 370 DT hubs, and new rotors, plus all the above mentioned stuff. The batteries are not removable, so you've gotta plug the whole bike in, at two points, FD and RD. Then obviously, if a battery dies, the whole derailleur needs replacing, which apparently cannot be purchased individually. This set gets a thumbs down for all those reasons. HOWEVER, if you're wanting electronic without having to replace the other parts (say, keeping your sunrace or whatever casette, cheap cranks and existing 2x10 or w/e stuff), then this is an option - but then you're setting a new ceiling.

twoo weeks ago 🤣

It's horribly noisy

is a copy of sram, china tech

Chinese zipperhead crap. Will be broken in 3 months, no support doen the road. Just buy Shimano.

any news about magene group set?