Seems to be an audio sync issue on mobile. KZfaq sucks balls. Recommend watching on PC. (Edit) it's an issue on all platforms apparently so rip.

I wish more wow content creators were actually passionate about the game and the lore like you are man. I'm so tired of people only pointing out the negative stuff, when they could be enjoying some aspect of the game. Keep doing the good work.

At the end of the Mag'Har orc scenario you can see a bunch of Botani from the evergrowth run towards the Barrens. It's very subtle and not everyone can notice it

My man Pyro comin in hot with the Old God content - N'Zoth approves

*new Pyro video* Me: ooohhh *is almost 50mins long* Me: OOOOHHHHHHHH

Honestly hope that this is the truth, because it'd be proof that Blizzard's writers at least have skill on a macro-level, even if the ground-level storytelling sucks.

Convenient that the Pantheon scolds Sargeras for the oath to “protect life when possible” and he’s the only one that made any effort to do so. Bold words coming from “benevolent” beings that barely lifted a finger in defiance of the forces that would harm us.

I'd like to point out the term "invasive" used in the early part of the video as Pyro reads from Chronicle vol 2. It seems to suggest that the carnivorous plant life is an invasive species, meaning that it comes from somewhere else. In the context of the video I think that the specific use of the term "invasive" is supporting evidence that the carnivorous plants, (specifically the sporemounds), were sent to / placed on Dreanor. It can be thought of as being an *invasive species* which lacks a natural predator and can more effectively use available resources, (over abundance of the "Spirit of Life"), to dramatically out-compete local fauna and flora.

Almost 49 minutes ? Daamn Pyro ! I'll have to watch it after work then lmao. I know it'll be worth it though. Love your work !

WAIT HOLD UP. The only weapon to have ever physically harm a Titan was Broxigars axe that was made with or otherwise imbued by a piece of wood or something from Cenarius. The druids worship Life essentially, Life being Eonars deal! Ho-Lee Shit you might have something going here...

"I am the modern day Galileo." - Pyromancer, 2019

Actually, your ending words might be on to something... ever since Sargeras stabbed the planet, i've been wondering, "why'd he stab it, I know he can split it in half and just instantly kill us,so why did he not do it?" - And I always thought it was because of 'the plot', but your words about him stabbing the planet just to accelerate the 'waking up' of Azeroth, so that she'd be able to help us fight the Pantheon, because she's the only one strong enough? There's a Quest mob on Krokuun - Lady Heretica, that says when you fight her: "Do you not see, without the Fel the Shadow will prevail?" And when she dies, she says: "You lack...vision." Which clearly states that Sargeras albeit evil, wants to 'save' us by killing us - atleast want rid of us for some greater purpose. Also, I think Herald Volazj in Ahn'kahet: The Old Kingdom has some interesting quotes about the Old gods, I would assume since he's somewhat connected to Yogg-saron. "They drink your fear: it is the blood of life." - This one is quite interesting, does Xal'atath,or any Old God for that matter, actually feed on souls/death, or just our fear? The best way to provoke fear is by putting us in the face of death, everyone fear death. And when he dies: "They do not die; they do not live. They are outside the cycle." - Who are 'they'?

My favorite Pyromancer video length

The other Old God prisons were clearly above sea level. N'zoth's line "bound beneath these waves" doesn't mean he's not underground. He can be underwater, and underground.

Life uuhh finds a way . . .

I still have a hard Time believing your theories, because i can not imagine Blizz being that creative lol

"She is patient, that one" goes into another level. the pinnacle of patience, being the goddess of life and using light and void to do your dirty work!

The Warbringer cinematic is quite difficult to follow at times. Zin-Azshari was either dug out and washed towards N'Zoth's formerly land locked prison and from which he escaped moments prior (which is not what we see in the cinematic). Or N'Zoth escaped his prison during the Sundering and made a beeline to the sinking Aszhara as a fish getting there within seconds which seems implausible. It's probably a bit of both- the city was moved some by the explosion which also freed N'zoth who then found Azshara who was holding back the water for way longer than we see. I think N'Zoth was quite weak after his imprisonment and the previous experiments on him by the Titans. He started out quite small maybe as small as the fish we see; however, with the many dead Night Elves around and a supremely powerful queen to leech from he grew powerful enough to hold an unconscious Azshara alive at the bottom of the sea for a 1000 years and ultimately transform into the Leviathan. This is why he agreed to her terms of the deal, he needed her power.

Eonar is playing the lady prestor onyxia card and manipulating the throne even though underneath she's just the big spoopy 'void lord' herself

I figured the reason why Aggramar had a Sporemound Seedling in his loot table was that he took it from Draenor as a sample to further study. Perhaps the same could be said about the Genesaur, or perhaps Eonar created it after Aggramar discovered Draenor or maybe it formed there on its own due to the Spirit energy. But it definitely is an interesting theory that maybe the Sporemounds were artificially created rather than formed.

I've always viewed the "light" in this game as just as untrustworthy as the void and the burning legion.

31:00 + is just killer, i was listening to video on the background, but when I got to "Doesnt it make Ionar void lord" I understood what the edge of my seat was made for.

this would honestly be an awesome way for things to turn out. on a story level it's rly interesting, tying with the inseparable nature of Light and Void, life and death create and feed off each other. eternal cycles, and the greatest forces in the WoW universe are only a macro-display of a micro that pervades everywhere else. i'd just love to see how all these themes build up in the story itself. i'm not confident how blizzard will handle these big ideas in an actual in-game arc. the world-building and lore itself is incredible, everything i love about fantasy condensed into a singular universe, but their storytelling ability in game seems less than great. in any case, this extensive theme/story exploration is always super exciting and inspiring to watch. lovely vids bro :))

it took me some time to realize Pyro was saying spore mounds... ...and not *_store mounts!_*

I’m thinking that what was said in the interview has really strong ties to Ogmot’s dream journal, as well as the possible first lie told by the boy king, being that the burning legion is finished, and that we have beaten them. In the journal, it talks about how there’s a misconception that people have that think that someone is bound to “that throne”, but they aren’t. They are free. I think this has to do with the red star being the possible soul of Sargeras, as you pointed out, and that should it move, since he isn’t bound at all, we’d be in trouble.

"I think that's a bullshit fucking lie." I laughed so hard man keep up the great work!

Remember that red star in the sky? That we should be worried about should it ever disappear? Yeah what happens to that now that sylvanas is ripping open the skies with shadowlands?

Pyromancer: the Alex Jones of World of Warcraft. Love it.

At first I thought this was a stretch BUT OHHHHH MY GOOOOOOODDDD THIS IS AWESOME

Pyro : MEGA - THEORY Blizzard (watches) Blizzard : Fucking hell this makes more sense than what we planned, let's hire this fam

I would love to see Pyromancer's corkboard with pictures and strings tying everything together.

Love seeing these kinds of videos coming back out! Keep up the great work!

Aman'Thul gave her that look because of her pun. "It is time" "Bitch I AM time"

It now makes more and more sense that the 5 keys and torches Illgynoth was talking about are the Pantheon. Now with Sargeras binded to the throne of the pantheon again they are complete and they left the red-star behind wich also fits perfectly with what was said that if it's gone we are in trouble. I wonder what else of his quotes was just for little events in Legion or if it really is foreshadow for all major things that will happen in this and maybe the next expansion

Call me crazy, but I don't believe Illidan ever said anything about stopping Sargeras, only the demons of the Burning Legion. On top of that, we don't know the entirety of what Sargeras showed Illdan, only what he himself tells us and what X'era wants to show us. My belief is that Sargeras needed an avatar and Illdan took up the mantle; I mean realistically there is no way that Illidan could stop Sargeras if he broke out again. He took out the entire pantheon by himself, so what chance would a lone Kaldorei have. My thoughts are perhaps the fel was a way to temper his body so that he COULD accept Sargeras without it ripping him apart like it does anything else that Sargeras puts himself into. On a side note... Am I the only one who believes that Chronicle was written by Norgannon? What better way to redact or alter lore than being the greatest keeper of secrets/historian himself?

A running gag on my channel has been that we should join the legion as Sargeras was right - its crazy to see that joke actually make total sense lol Great video man, very interesting stuff

Why did i only just discover you now... where have you been past 16 years in my wow-lore-life? Instant follow!

Great vid pyro! Once again! And this time you REALY blee my mind. I made a few notes while listening. May be abit long but I hope you will read it and enjoy it and hopelly find it usefull!: -Bound beneath these waves. What if he is still burried in the ground, the core of the world. Deeper, ever deeper. But obviously the waves of water are also above him. -When you zoomed in on the roots my mind was LITTERLY BLOWN! If you notice the right side of the planet, it looks like a seedling/pollen thing. It IS A PLANT! My theory: Life, plants, want to survive so they devour. What happens tho is that when there is nothing to devour, they simply decay. Take a real plant for example. If it dies, due to no water or sunlight, it gets rotten and fleshy. And insects grow out of it. So the ood gods are nothing more then big plants which couldnt feed anymore. So they decayed. -More proof youre not crazy: sargeras was angry at the titans when he saw the planet they ‘first ordered’. Why? Not because of void. But because he saw life, the plants, being so decayed and rotten that it sickened him. And the world soul wasnt becomming a void titan, he was simply dying and rotting. Slowly bevomming a host/vessel/reanimated corpse for the growth to move to other worlds..to feed! THIS is the flaw. The titans, eonar, thought ‘life is good’ but if it doesnt get fed it will rot and decay. This was the flaw. -Sargeras wanted to ‘purge life with fire’ as you said. He wanted to burn down the forest of the universe. Cause he said ‘life came to be before, so it will again’. If you take down a forest with fire. The forest will bloom again, but naturally. Dont forget, in nature forests also burn. By lightning or mother nature. But if mother nature protected life like eonar does, we would be screwed! -speaking of rot, isnt ghuun and all of uldir in theme of ‘rot’. Servants of ‘rot’. The titans tried to ‘make’ an old god. And experimrnt on it hoe to give it back life. To fix the stuff they failed with the other old gods. -Life calmed the elements on draenor, on azeroth the old gods (decayed live) issues similair commands to the elements but more aggresive.

In the past you said, the red star seems to be growing, since 8.1 I think it grew a little bit larger again. I visited some burned tree a few minutes ago and it seems larger.

"Envy is heavily tied to Desire..." Alright, yeah. "...which is tied to Life." Wait no stop.

Thank God. I was in my shower yesterday and I was thinking "Hmmm, What if agrammar allowed sageras to corrupt himself because agrammar was the only one who knew absolute life would never win."

I must admit that many of these things are so obvious when you point them out that it's hard to believe none paid attention to them, this theory, no matter how crazy it sounds, makes sense in so many ways, you always surprise me Pyro, great job with this one :)

New theory: Pyromancer is a Twilight's Hammer cultist.

Great video! I noticed that the Sporemounds sounded like plant Old Gods but I chalked it up to a coincidence. I hope there is more to it like you suggest.

Whoooa, I'm not even halfway through yet so I might add to this comment, but you were talking about fire cleansing the corruption of "life" and I was like "that makes no sense because the red dragonflight uses fire AS life"... but then I remembered that Alexstraza isn't called the "Life Bringer", she's called the "Life BINDER", as if she not only creates and protects, but also controls the spread of life. Interesting.

Wow logic "you are unworthy" (we beat the crap out of the person that said that ) "oh I'm sorry I was mistaken"

I think the implication of the Evergrowth, as well as the Light for that matter, being things that can grow out of control isn't tying it to the Old Gods but saying "too much of a good thing can kill"

honestly your videos are so good I didn't even realize it has been an hour

starting the year right with some of that good Old God stuff

An hour well spent. No matter how "out there" or crazy you theories are, noone can deny they are incredibly interesting and enjoyable to watch.

The "Void Lards are coming for us ."

Now it makes sense why Sargeras wanted to control Argus the alleged death titan, to eradicate the virus that is life and the pantheon itself.

Part of the reason I don't believe this theory is because it's more interesting than anything I expect to actually come out of blizzard nowadays.

Fun fact: video piped from my phone's Bluetooth to the Jeep's radio= synced audio again.

In regards to what Alex said about the red star, I think you need to re-read the quote. He didn't say go out, or disappear; he said "if it's ever gone". This implies that the red star is Sarg's prison, and that if the red star is ever gone, it would mean that Sarg is free. This is further backed by the fact that the red star only appeared after the legion's defeat.

The emerald nightmare and corruption is a common theme with plant life in WoW, I didn't finish watching but it seems relevant.

I'm not sure if you said it exactly as I think you've said it - but (forgive me if I interpreted incorrectly), "The Titans imitating Life and Death through the artificial forms of Light and Void" [respectively]. I believe it to be the other way around. With "The Void" as an imitation of Life - partially chaotic and a conniption of ever-evolving growth. Infinite Mutation and creation. Capable of quasi-human curio, such as "Envy", which the void lords as you pointed out, have manifested. Somewhat of a shrewd theory to support this is the "curse of flesh", which seeks to corrupt Azeroth - it kind of already has... with life... a manifestation of the old gods curse of flesh. Azeroth is in my minds eye... already corrupted. By us. Light - partially order, yet primed with the spurious guise of "primordial fire" - controls its counterpart. Eonar is a "Lifebinder"... I sort of took the title literally. Light binds, imprisons etc. The Naaru bound Illidan forcefully to convert him - take away that "chaos" in his veins. Just food for thought, I could have completely missed the mark. :3

I would actually love if you made a separate video with all the little details that proof your theory because its so easy to miss them and it would also be a good way to bring up those details in future videos if there are new things that either further proof or change the theory. Doesnt have to be a video you comment on, just a compilation of clips/pictures of what we have so far on this theory. I personally cant wait to see in what way Bwonsamdis Boss connects to it all (Im 99% sure its Mueh'zala, blizz even released the Novel Traveler: The Spiral Path in Feb 2018 to introduce him and he even has a shrine in BfA so they are setting his reveal up ingame).

As an aside. I think this is very possible. Mostly because of the example I saw in the Halls of Origination in Uldum when I was getting the last of my Ramkahen reputation. Setesh is the watcher of Destruction in the Halls. The trash before him are Void Sentinels, Void Seekers and Void Wyrms. His own abilities are chaos based and indicative of Warlock powers: Chaos Bolt, Chaos Blast, Seed of Chaos, etc. I think that the Void has always been part of the ordering of things and the Titans. At the end of Legion, Azeroth's nightmares were void manifestations. I think the void is the balance trying to break through where the worlds are being ordered too much. And the Titans, or Eonar, are trying to break that order.

Damn im happy you made a new LONG old god video. Thanks!

You're one of the few you tubers that I never disagree with. Thanks for all the thought provoking videos !

As to why Sargaras "broke free" his primary job was to hunt down "demons" and imprison them (because demons could not be killed) and these Demons were infused with the Fel and were the enemy of the Titans. The Fel is remarkable for two things. 1) it is inherently Fire-like. 2) it "consumes" life like a fire does. If I remember correctly, it's been said that Sarg was "corrupted" by the Fel having spent so much time around demons, and when he finally freed the demons he was "bathed in fel-fire." It's entirely possible that the Fel exposure is what freed him of Eonir's influence and why the Titans were so weak to his fel attacks (Chronicles says that fel was the natural counter to the Titan's "arcane" existence, despite the fact that warlocks and arcane mages have never had such an interaction). Further, in the history of the game, there is not one recorded instance of any of the burning legion turning traitor to the void, though there are examples of warlocks and demon hunters turning to join the legion). Warlocks can even use "shadow" magic but never show any signs of being corrupted...unlike shadow-priests who grow ever more corrupted. Also, the Void Elves show remarkable resistance to the Void forces (far beyond any recorded race who did similar)...which could well be because the vast majority of the High Elf population turned to using Fel to replace the light/arcane magics that used to sustain them from the sun well. Also, think about Illidian? The Naru was trying to take him over with the light, and had even managed to fill him, and yet he still managed to burn out the light and then destroy the naru. It's going to be interesting to see if Illidian takes up with Sarg after they actually spend time together.

Quick notes: Those were not the true Void Lords you fought, but were avatars of them, and were significantly weakened by being outside of the void. That's technically not even what the Void Lord's truly look like, they're supposed to be incomprehensible to mortals due to the void being the complete opposite of everything light which mortals are akin to. Also the "stars foretold" is referring to the Constellar, the race of humanoids that look like constellations (Algalon the Observer being one).

If your theory is confirmed, you deserve a detective npc put in the game.

I'm totally following everything and liking it, but you had me chuckling when you said you fought Void Lords. Those are clearly an in-game misnomer on a powerful void-being from before the concept of the Void Lords was even concieved. The whole point of the Void Lords is that they can't even manifest in our plane of existence... Keep up the good work though, always a joy to listen to!

i finally get it "his heart is a crater and we have filled it", also "the boy king serves the master's table", they both refer to Pyromancer!!! he's now one with the old gods

I wouldn't drink blood of mannoroth but I would drink the shit out of old god stuff

The comment at the end makes sense.. Sargeras' sword could have been plunged in Azeroth to accelerate the process to wake up Azeroth sounds about right, because look at what we're doing in-game.. Azeroth is stiring and showing signs of life, of being awake, albeit injured, but we're mending those wounds and helping to power up and restore Azeroth and make Azeroth stronger.

Fucking love your long vids man especially on the old gods! Happy New year brother

I'm really digging this longer content. Awesome Video Pyro

You can't see the red star from Zandalar and Kul Tiras...... They added it to every Azeroth sky box, so it's kind of strange that they 'forgot' to put it in the new ones....

As soon as I see 48 mins on the video length I've started to drool... 48 mins of Pyro, and the 2019 start in the right way... love ya Pyro!

In the beginning you shouldve mentioned that the botani have snuck into azeroth when we brought the maghar over. Blizzard added that easter egg for a reason.

Every time I think we lost you deep into the rabbit hole .....you open my eyes wide open to the probabilities. Great video man. And totally the tentacles on the corrupted planet is plant life.

Pyro, you and your vids are literally the only reason that keep me playing wow. Thank you for the awesome video!

According to some of the cuts about the 3 sisters, death is resistant to void. If Argus is titan of death, then that might explain why Sargeras used him to funnel demons as a way to increase speed of eradication. Perhaps light and life are more susceptible to corruption whereas fel and death are resistant

13:10 in Starcraft the same thing happens with Fire being the only thing to extinguish infestations

I mentioned in a comment in one of your previous videos, which may not be relevant, but the different magics in the Warcraft universe have specific colours identifying them. Arcane is blue/purple, water is blue (but is also water), fire is orange, death is red, light is yellow etc. However, life is green. The only problem with this, is that fel is also green. Could the person who created life, also be responsible for creating the other lives in the universe that also go against the titans (demons essentially)?

One major thing that bugged since the first time I watched the Argus cinematic - why is it Eonar that tells Aman'Thul, who IS the embodiment/god of TIME, that "It is time" ?!?! Why the actual f*** does she command time now all of a sudden? Why is she telling the god of time, that HIS domain is to be commanded?? I mean, Aman'Thul himself would know if it were time or not for us to leave, without the "help" of Eonar, telling him so. And he just accepts her judgment and command and orders us to go. Seriously, tho, it seems like even Aman'Thul is afraid of her and only does her bidding - slowing time, taking death out of the equation - so the life SHE brings can flourish and will never be extinguished.

This is your best work yet. Period.

This is why we love you m8, keep it up the excellent work!

Speaking of watching cinematics in slow motion, at 42:12 (when Sargeras in being pulled into the Seat of the Pantheon), look at Sargeras's face. I don't know about you, but to me he looks terrified... terrified of what awaits him after he becomes imprisoned in the Seat of the Pantheon, with to other Titans... you can almost read the despair in his eyes. Now by no means am i saying he's a good guy but... would a mad titan hungry for power and conquest, even display such an emotion ?

I'm beginning to think "Battle for Azeroth" is really about the fight to save Azeroth from something and NOT the fight between Horde vs Alliance over who is the dominant faction on Azeroth.

illidan also kind off confirmed that the light is just as oppressive, by rejecting the naaru and screaming that his fate will be his own. This kind off confirms to me that illidan knew that he would not be the same person after the naru converts him. Or could it be that the demonic energy within illidan prompted him to lash out against the naaru. (Im just rambling at this point btw)

You mentioned Galileo, and how many people considered he was crazy, and i believe that it's a fair analogy considering some people's comments about your theories, so i thought you may like to know that Galileo's last phrase before taking back what he theorized (earth moving around the sun) before the church, was "and yet, it moves". Many people will not agree with this piece of theory that you have shown us, and yet, "it moves".

@Pyromancer I agree with almost everything you say in this video, except I have these to add... * In my opinion, Shadow and Void are indeed almost the same.... if I were to guess, Shadow is Light in the process of entropy, while the Void is Light that has gone out completely. The evidence for this is the Naaru themselves, they first become Darkened Naaru (Shadow) and turn into Void Gods/Lords only once drained completely (Void) * Second, my idea for the original forms of the Old Gods is that they were originally similar to Draenor's giant plant life, only fleshly and then the Titans or rather Eonar specifically empowered them with the Light, so nature/life + light.... everything was fine and dandy, but as we know, once the Light runs out, we get the Void.... and that's how they became Old Gods, their Lights ran out. So yes, Eonar made the Old Gods, intentionally or not. Perhaps it might not have been intentional, but she is still responsible, because Light is always bound to eventually become Void and as you say, Sargeras knows this, hence he sees the flaw. Even though I agree with almost everything you say in your theories, there is one huge issue.... if the Void Lords are made up entities and are in fact just Eonar/the Pantheon, who the heck whispers to Alleria?

what if sargarus was tricked into believing in void lords by eonar so he'd clean up her mess and when he went astrey from her plan thats when we were tricked to subdue him so eonar can get him back on track? also what if the sporemounds only remained sporemounds because they touched draenor's life sourse and they were originally supposed to devolve into old gods as they lost the light energy they originally had?

The only point that seems odd to me is that "The Gift of Flesh" came from the Old Gods, right? So if that made it so we could "die" (what even is death in the wow universe though, nothing ever seems to really disappear; it just changes state) how would that serve the goals you believe the Life Binder has? Yogg Saron even calls itself the God of Death, which is not really true, but the accolade is telling of its intentions. If the Old Gods are really mutated servants of life, they don't seem to be aware of it anymore. Then again. if you are correct, the Titans made two "opposed" force (light and void) with the same goal to distract us, so maybe the Old Gods and the Spore Mounds are the same exact thing: one plant matter, the other flesh, endlessly devouring each other with no actual end or real death being possible just like the naru and the void lords. I am curious where Elune fits in to this though. If Elune is just Eonar then it makes sense because we have seen that Elune has both a light and dark side. Elune can control both light and shadow, so if Elune is Eonar, then that definitely would give more credence to your idea that the Titans creating the light and the void. Very very interesting stuff. I can't see any reason to say you are wrong at the moment. Your theory is elaborate, but well thought out, and based on the assumptions you make your conclusion seems plausible. I like it.

I just wish they made ingame content about the exact theme you are talking about. The story of WoW. Awesome video!

"How can something die if it wasn't alive?" I like this

Imma be honest. For the first 20 or so minutes of this, you completely lost me. I didn't know what you were saying and it seemed random but you wrapped it together really well and it ended up making far more sense than a lot of things. Great theory

Pyromancer, I got a new theory of what could actually happen in the near future of WoW that needs to be debunked. It involves what's been happening in the old End Time dungeon back in Cataclysm and what those bosses are currently going through right now in BfA. I don't think we've stopped the events from happening in the future, and that the Twilight Council's plans are still in motion. Tyrande might be losing her connections to Elune, Baine's guilt of not saving Azeroth from impending doom brought only feelings of anger towards everyone, Jaina being "divided" during these dark times and lastly Sylvanas, who lost everything and is unable to find peace. There's another piece of information that was given in the dungeon too. Sylvanas was to die at the Ruby Dragonshrine. Maybe Alextrasza have something to do with her death? And the fact that all 4 of these heroes were at dragonshrines during that event makes me think that the former aspects have a role in all of this too. I noticed that former dragon aspects have been dying one by one lately as well. Malygos died during the Eye of Eternity raid, Deathwing got corrupted by the Old Gods and had to be put down at the Maelstrom, Ysera got corrupted by Xavius and had to be put down at the Temple of Elune, and lastly we know that Nozdormu will be corrupted as well in the future and turn into Murozond, and he's going to die at the Bronze Dragonshrine. That leaves Alextrasza. Is she a hero in all of this? Or will she die just like the other aspects? And is the black dragon who died on top of Wyrmrest Temple actually Deathwing, or what it truly Wrathion who was merely his father's pawn all along and that it was his body lying dead in his place? There's just a lot of speculations to be had here.

I wonder what Magni is trying to do, beyond healing Azeroth's wounds.

Pyromancer: Draen- Me: *_PTSD_*

Sol is also French for Soil or Earth, which makes sense given the Dungeon.

I’ve been thinking about the nature of the Old Gods for awhile now, but what if Murozond is actually trying to defeat the titans instead of the Old Gods. Think about each instance we go back in time (even the Battle for Hyjal), each of them is/has something to do with something significant that happened in WoW lore. Deathwing’s and the Legion’s defeat at the Well of Eternity, Arthas first turn into becoming the Lich King, Dragon Soul... which in and of itself is a bit of a clusterfuck of timewarping ideas, End Time has a huge number of ideas that reverberate to this day, the blatant ones are Escape from Durnholde and Black Morass, but Hyjal was the first time the races came together and defeated a very powerful time-controlling being. After Legion, I think Illidan is going to absorb Sargeras’ essence and become the new Champion... which is going to be our doom (or he’ll do what Illidan does best... betray) Then there’s the Nathrezim paladin guy, an example of how twisted the morals of the Titans and the Light are. Same goes with Yrel. The Titans are evil and it’s just a matter of time when Azeroth breaks free and we have to fight alongside her against the Titans. Sargeras’ objective this whole time was to wake her up because she is the strongest and I think that’s why Eonar infested her with Old Gods (life) to destroy her albeit slowly.

The Everbloom is unchecked growth like a benign tumor (it can kill, but it is not directly dangerous to its host [in this case, Draenor is not itself being consumed, just creatures on the surface]), but ; the Void Lords/Old Gods are more like a malignant cancer (actively trying to consume Azeroth). The beings of the Everbloom talking about returning when they're killed is similar to something like giant aspen groves (super massive clonal colonies of trees with the same root system that are considered to be a single organism) absorbing fallen limbs et al (in this case, the remains of the botani) back into itself as nutrients to continue going. N'Zoth reminds me a LOT of Moghedien from the Wheel Of Time series (great books if you're into high fantasy); Moghedien is the weakest physically of The Forsaken, but her true strength lies in her abilities within Tel'aran'rhiod ("The World Of Dreams") where she can manipulate people and things from outside their own touch. Thus you can have the weakest still be the most powerful. I'm not disagreeing with you on anything, I just think you're a bit too much into WoW being 100% Lovecraftian + Norse theory to talk of other influences and ideas :)

Hey Kopernicus, seems you've been right all along. ^^ 4 years ago you gave me alot to think about with your theories and honestly it changed my way of thinking. Thank U

This was amazing and spot on! Great Video man, been thinking this for a while!

This right here, these twists and turns of story is just the thing that I loved most about Warcraft franchaise, especially the Warcraft III. I think it's just in spirit of Blizzard to do such a thing, to place the biggest threat to the universe right in front of us, disguised as our friends and saviors. So yeah, I'm sure that everything is not as plain and simple, as we are lead to believe, Titans are not our friends and something big is comming.