The doctor had no delivery mechanism for those things - it’s not a resort. But doctors are neglectful about not prescribing when it is better not to.

Thank you for sharing the truth whats going on at average psych ward. Thank you

​​@@claireh.7605well society expect the doctors to "solve the problem" and preferably solve it quickly. They are using the tools they have at hand. It's easier to convince a patient to take a pill than to look over their life and make numerous changes some of which other people may sneer at or question. When society isn't feeling well the symptoms show up in people. To solve the problems you need a more holistic approach, as I see it. Holistic approaches sound expensive and uncertain to many people.

This is all too common

Well, we know about the opioid crisis. Doctors were lobbied to prescribe pain killers for all kinds of pain. Karl Marx called religion opium for the people. This was even better.

I completely agree. I take maximum dose of SSRI daily for 15 years. Took me out of disabled psychotic hell. No side effects, no diminishment of feelings, no reduction in benefits. Sometimes the cause of mental illness is wrong brain chemicals, perhaps similar to an epileptic or ADHD.?

There’s no one size fits all here

I’ve tried REALLY hard to not be on SSRI’s. I’ve been on them since I was 18 and I’m now 35. I have a panic disorder that leads to debilitating panic attacks, heart palpitations etc. I feel “normal” and able to function with them. I know this doesn’t work for everyone

@@JessicaNichole89

@@JosephCymrank I concur with you.

Everyone in my family is on something. Runs in the family. If it keeps me functional I stay on it.

Did she take them herself?

When my husband passed, I was stunned by how clueless the medical profession was about grief.

There are events we experience in life ... not a reason to start taking a pill, that God knows how it will long turn effect be. Say no to these pill pushers!! They are all into it for the MONEY.

So sorry for your loss.

@@CJ-jq4lv Thank you.

I agree!!!

Have you been taking them since you were 19? I am in them for 18 years and I am very worried about longterm side effects..

They came on the market in the late 80s, weren't around before then. Did you start when they became available?

The problem is you've actually no idea the body is made to balance itself. If you're relying on SSRIs for seratonin, your body has probably stopped making it itself as it doesn't need to. If you tried to come off it now you may find your body cannot ever make it itself again. That's three per of the body to calibrate to what is put into it

Problem is, you've no idea. Your body always calibrates itself to accommodate for what goes into it. If you tried to come off SSRIs now you may find you can't as your body may never make it's own seratonin again. It may have stopped the ability to since your giving it artificially

It worked really well for opiate withdrawal but I was really just kicking the can down the road.

@@sole__doubt 🙏🏻👍🏻

Lol and yeah

Another "addage" in business is "you get what you pay for".

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I'm doing it now. I'm having a difficult time getting completly off.

Yea I just completely stopped. Would not recommend that.

What was your experience on them

@@shanecorr1694 When I cut my dose way down, my emotions came back. I never realized they were gone. I know that sounds crazy, but that's what happened. I never did anything for fun. Since almost being off if them, I've obtained tickets to two concert, complelty cleaned out my yard, and am now in the process of planting in the flower beds. I never cared about any of that before. I feel like I have 6 years of life to catch up on.

@@dextermorgan1 take at least 3 months - at least

You have been braiwashed, comparing antidepressants to diabetic issues people have when they lack of natural insuline in their bodies is a markiting tool pharmaceutical companies invented. Truth is truth.You belive in illusion.

It's an emotional well-being that doesn't belong to you though since you didn't produce it yourself. Can you see what I mean? It's okay if you don't. What is wrong with not being perfectly fine all the time? That's how we learn and become stronger; by supering difficulty after difficulty without resorting to drugs and escape. The most important thing in your life is that your emotions are genuine. By altering your emotions you practically live a life that isn't really yours. Depression is a natural part of life. Completely natural. You've been conditioned into believing you need to medicate. And "fix" yourself to fit the narrative of this society. To get to this truth one needs to arrive to a few enlightenments. In the natural way.

@@AWIKINGSWAYWhat you’re describing is _sadness,_ not actual depression. They are two very different things. “Life-coaching” your way out of serious depression isn’t an option, unfortunately.

@ettbattresverigenu There are a subset of individuals who truly need medication. I am one who will continue to have severe melancholic major depressive episodes if I don't stay on my antidepressant. There are other forms of depression that I can deal with by using therapy, exercise, diet, socializing, etc. However, the former needs medication or I would be completely non functioning and causing damage to myself.

Check out Psychotropical..dr Ken Gillman in Australia..an expert on the MAOI group of antidepressants. I’ve taken them for over 40 years and now permanently. Life saver.

Not every disease, some have nothing to do with diet. Plus complex carbs are healthy, it's refined carbs that cause health problems.

My depression lifted with testosterone replacement after menopause. I am at optimal range now. But, my GP wanted to place me on a low dose SSRI. I said no way. found a GYN who specializes in hormone replacement I am 55 and feel 30 again.

I've been on every touted diet. Changing an individual's food preferences can cause a lot of stress. Two years ago I did the keto diet. Problem was I didn't eat any carbs. I lost 25 lbs in 25 days. I was so weak everytime I stood up I passed out. At 81, I'm not stressing over diets. I'm happy and for me that is hugh.

Yes, dr.porassss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

Yes he is dr.porassss.

Microdosing helped me get out of the pit of my worst depressive episode, a three year long episode, enough to start working on my mental health.

Absolutely, his offerings extend to global delivery, prioritizing complete confidentiality for individuals valuing their privacy.

hey, I had similar response to yours and the drugs provided no relief, just numbness. have you looked into internal family systems (IFS) or compassionate inquiry or somatic therapy? childhood trauma is huge driver of adult depression, anxiety, addiction, etc. Dr. Richard Schwartz gave us IFS, Gabor Maté compassionate inquiry. tons of vids here, have been very helpful to me. wishing you all the best, and some relief and joy.

@@ericb8413 I think some people really do need them. I do feel that some people may be on stronger does than needed but perhaps I am wrong. However I did not want to go on them at all. One of my friends has been on them for many years and is emotionally blunted. No strong emotions of happiness or sadness ever.

Its great that you dont need medication to help with your mood 🙏 But your statement "i have no reason to be depressed" is in my opinion wrong and kind of offensive. I have litterally 0 reasons to be depressed, but still i am. You dont always have a reason to why you are depressed.

@@Den26juli She was speaking of her situation not yours. The lady has gone through a traumatic childhood and has been trying to find a way to get past depression.

The same thing is happening to me 😟 I am going to try liquid citalopram and go down even slower. 10mg to 5mg caused me debilitating withdrawal symptoms

I do not agree , I have to take med

Which anti-inflammatory meds?

Serious autoimmune diseases like MS also involves serious meds such as immunosuppressive drugs. Putting the patient at much higher risk of cancer long-term. Such as what happened to my twin. But things like Hashimotos, yes, I agree with him by changing diet and then taking the HRT when hypothyroid, such as what I have. But antidepressants can be good for some people both short and long-term. This guy has no clue by generalizing like a fool.

@@24JJ821I don’t think you finished listening. At the end he talks about those for whom long term works.

​@@24JJ821​ Hard agree. The moment he talked about diet fixing autoimmune conditions and subsequently fixing depression I knew not to take him seriously. When diet fixes autoimmune symptoms, it doesn't cure them completely but often minimizes them. If it were really cured, then you could eat whatever you want without side effects. I am someone with an incredibly limited diet for health reasons, changing my diet made massive strides in my pain, fatigue, and many other symptoms. But it didn't make it all go away. The connection is immense and massively understated, but it's more of a correlation or one of multiple contributing factors than a sole cause and effect narrative, and that is an incredibly important distinction to make. He's working off of half baked notions and it's a dangerous game.

​@@24JJ821you need iodine not synthetic t4 that wont convert into t3 cos your liver os too busy processing other toxic meds

Been on it for 18 years.. tried going off multiple times.. withdrawals are horrible 😢

Me too I've been taking mine for 28 years and I'm not even going to try to get off...

38 years on them here 😢

Wow, I didn't realise how long ppl stay in them! Don't the effects of them plateau, so what's the point being on them? But I guess the severe withdrawals is the main factor ppl stay on them.

@@renee3148 you definitely can and I did get immune to some of them so they had to switch me to a different one every so many years.

My heart is with you.

I'm 67 on long term sleep meds for anxiety and insomnia. I get very lonely used to sit in coffee shops, managed to give that up during COVID.

When I went on antidepressants I was with an abusive spouse, and I was working with horrible colleagues in my job. There seemed to be nothing good in my life except my kids. I got divorced, and that piled upon financial stress. Antidepressants saved my life and helped me work with horrible people at work, horrible friends, and horrible family members. I don’t have any of those awful people in my life anymore.

Me too. Can we just have purpose and connection?

@@amusedBYfoolsAgreed! Allegedly we're more "connected" than ever before, yet loneliness is now called an epidemic. Hmmm... 👀

You are not powerless. It is malpractice and you can sue.

Me too. Same. I have OCD and ADHD.

Me too, psychiatrists should be more rigorous on prescribing these meds, FFS my feelings are in a freaking normal range not the "I feel like doing nothing, want to cry all day "

Tell me more please 🙏

There are much safer alternatives!

@@sweetbeep Like what ??? Nothimg else semed to help !!!

He has 100s of shorts and full podcasts. Wealth of information.

You are absolutely right! My doctor prescribed a SSRI for me after I fell into a heap after several deaths in my family. Somehow I ended up taking them for decades as a 'preventative' maintenance dose as recommended by the doctor. I am now in a protracted withdrawal and it is absolute hell! I DIDN'T sign up for this neurological damage 😢

VERY true! But did anyone assume they treat the root causes? Sorry, but that's just naive

@@pesttanc The psychiatrists handing them out said they did.

Gotta face those negative feelings and sit with them. Running away from them leads to bad things.

​@@janedoe6704 depression is your body telling you things need to change. For some people they need to numb their feelings a bit in order to have the capacity to do the work. For people like me that's not a great idea as I need to have some discomfort to get me to the point of wanting to make changes. If I'm numbed out I don't have any incentive to try to change things.

​@@1Jason yes I was on an antidepressant for a short time the only thing it did was make me numb and have no incentive to work on things. When I went off of the antidepressant the only thing that happened was I became aware of my feelings again and things felt worse because I wasn't doing the work to improve my situation.

Read the product information leaflet yhat accompanies your meds. The manufacturers are required by law to include a big fat 'black box warning" that the priduct has and can cause "suicidal ideation and tendencies and homicidal impulses" (the latter especially to men)

​@@aalliaandreadis5109what a hell does that have to do with them getting better. Meds worked for them.

​@@aalliaandreadis5109Are you aware bipolar disorder doesn't have a cure? Or you're just a trolll?

I just recently fired a doctor for continuously prescribing me anti-psychotics for depression after several decades of severe abuse. I talked to him for less than 10 minutes before he prescribed them to me. Prescribing anti-psychotics for anger and depression is like prescribing morphine for a broken finger. MASSIVE overreaction. Here are the things that happened to me as a result of being on them for less than 1 month: -Tardive dyskinesia that was so bad that I couldn't eat (my jaw was grinding involuntarily, so I couldn't open my mouth; I literally had to force my mouth open with my hands). My legs would also randomly twitch, so I kept falling over. -Gained 10 pounds. -Daytime sleepiness -Couldn't sleep because of the tardive dyskinesia.

@@Hollyucinogen ❤️‍🩹

I think a psychiatrist knows better than you, you obviously don't read the instructions because insomnia and depression resistant to other drugs are indications for their usage. I've been on 8 different antipsychotics for almost 10 years and I didn't notice any side effects (aside from clozapine and terrible drooling)

@@Silenceeify Ivana, what you think is unimportant to me or the wellbeing of people on a wider scale.

@@Silenceeify Psychiatrists are specifically trained to simply offer as many drugs for as long as possible as "treatment'. And if you get any side-effects from them, then they'll offer you another drug to combat the side-effects of that one before they consider taking you off of it. The number of doctors who don't do that are like, 1/10. I just fired a doctor for doing this less than 1 month ago. They're banking on people having blind faith in them. The vast majority of doctors only care about their pocket book, not their patients.

Good for you! Please be very, very, careful tapering. It rakes a long time!

Yes. It's easy to want to do it now but I'm taking it slow.

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Lamotrigine comes in immediate release so you may want to switch to that when you're ready to taper. You can also get chewable dispersible tablets to make a liquid.

I weaned off an antidepressant. I don’t think it’s one that is nearly as hard, particularly not as tough as benzodiazepines. I did it myself and slowly. If I remember it took a year, maybe 18 months. No side effects. Hoping the best in your journey.

Better yet, refrain from forcing them into this hell in the first place.

I would rather let my child try medical Marijuana than ever take meds. Im stuck on them and they are evil and awful. I hate them so much

​@chellefell1331 Stuck on them? How do you mean that? I've taken them most of my adult life but have free will to wean down and quit at any time! How is that any different for you? I'm curious.

@chellefell1331 there is a way slow taper of 10 percent and hold six weeks. It will take years but doable. I'm off after 27 years took me 5.7 years to fo the hyperbolic taper off effexor.

Truth!❤

Same.

Me too and benzodiazepines

Same and benzosss

That's what it does come to

I did the same in 2019 and felt similar withdrawal symptoms. Reinstated after 7 months...it took higher dosages to feel OK....then waited 4 months and started tapering very slowly at rate of 10% of current dosages. Worked better for me that way...Still taking effexor but much less dosages

Yes Effexor are known for bringing terror. I would reinstate and taper very slowly when you are stabil again. 10% taber is to much for many, I would do 5%. I have been there myself I know how it is. Slow is fast. And be extra careful when you get to roughly 20 mg then taper even slower 1-2% a month.

You might need to reinstate if you suffer from akathesia or SI. If so a low dose might be sufficient to stabilize. You will heal but might take longer than if you would've done hyperbolic taper.

Yep, my emotional energy, that intuitive feeling that there might be something magical and satisfying in the future for you. I stopped talking to family, I get really irritated and become mean, I fake being normal, I don't go out to people anymore, just stay by myself and go to work and gym or coffeeshop.

Omgosh you seriously must feel terrible. I’m so sorry. Effexor is not an easy drug to taper from. Cold Turkey it just takes you down to Davy’s locker. I would not reinstate that drug! Dr Josef has many many videos on Effexor withdrawal, injuries and tapering. Stay with it.

Sounds like my family. My depression was rooted in trauma & low esteem due it abuse & neglect. Didn’t learn healthy coping skills either.

Ditto after my use of SSRI for 25 years.

But how long have you been on antidepressants? Because he doesn’t say they don’t work short time. They made a world of difference for me AT FIRST. But after taking them for years and weaning myself off of them because they were no longer working, I now pretty much have no feelings. I don’t think I am capable of happiness or joy. Further, he didn’t say no one should be on them long term. At the end he talks about people for whom it is appropriate.

As an autistic with ADHD, I already have little or no contact with my emotions. I am easily overwhelmed and intense feelings just push me over the edge. Add to that CPTSD from an abusive childhood followed by an emotionally abusive 21 yrs of marriage. I'm a mess. Without bupropion I would not be here. I am hoping the recent addition of Abilify will help even more. Maybe enough that I can find out who I really am, learn healthy boundaries, and get in touch with my feelings about things. I am a little hopeful. I would do better if I could actually afford a therapist, but that is not in the cards.

The drugs are stimulants. Like a long drug chase that never ends.

@@mrnt1257 3+ years and I still have my feelings. I cry, I love my animals, I have empathy. I just don’t feel like hiding under the covers all day.

@@Lulu-kt6grsame here!

I hope you are feeling better now. Take care

Suicidal ideation and attempts are written on the product information leaflet of any anti depressant with a black box warning signifying a ptoven adverse reaction

You CAN do it! Research HOW to taper first. Check out Dr. Mark Horowitz (KZfaq) on protocols. It can take a long time , but worth it.❤

You can ❤

I’m so sorry. I’m right there with you. One day at a time. Did you use hyperbolic taper and super slow reductions with long time between reductions? I’ve had to go up and start over again. There didn’t used to be as much info in the past. Tapering too quickly causes problems. I’m tapering less than 3% each reduction from previous amount- and waits months between reductions. Although it’s still difficult, especially when I get to the point where I had trouble last time. I’m holding for now. But I also have a nurse practitioner helping me and I am using liquid for Clonazepam. Then I need to work on getting off Lexapro.

We really need a place or clinic where they understand tapering and deprescibing. We need help! Try getting this book: The Maudsley Deprescribing Guidelines: Antidepressants, Benzodiazepines, Gabapentinoids and Z-drugs (The Maudsley Prescribing Guidelines Series) Mark Horowitz and David Taylor authors. I am unable to read more than a paragraph and remember anything but a friend has read the whole book and helps me understand sometimes.

Perhaps Dr, Josef would see you.

I’m sorry 😔 Sadly your story is all too common. I really hope things improve for you. I hope your gf is understanding ❤️‍🩹

Don't give up - you will recover- find a good therapist / psychologist and not a psychiatrist to help you.

I promise this isn't true homie. You are overthinking it. I felt that way at that age and it all just changes. Don't worry.

And dude there's no way you'd get permanently stuck like that after only 2 months of use 😆

@@TrentAdam People develop pssd which lasts for years sometimes after just ONE pill. Just because YOU got better after some time doesn’t mean that EVERYONE will get better too. Do some research before just blatantly assuming that everyone must be like you. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odmkp5elsprUYGg.htmlfeature=shared kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZZpdZiVxrbao2Q.htmlfeature=shared

I also started Zoloft first around 33 yrs old and I'm not sure when I switched to Paxil. I'm now 51 yrs old and I don't even care to shower or brush my teeth. Of course I have zero libido thanks to Paxil and menopause. I just want to be normal again. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just lazy..? But seriously, just thinking of showering depresses me. I have to watch motivational videos.

@@Heyoudummy 🙏✨

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I have been of anti depressants for over a decade and I am going back on. I have had several talk therapies and they did jack sh/t. I have plenty of exercse. Nothing worked on atypical depression I do plenty of exercise as a farm hand. I am a high functioning depressed person. I can function with 4 hours of sleep. I can only sleep 8 hours on SSRIs and I am going back on. I had some adverse life events 20 years ago. Some bad stuff in my childhood before that. SSRIs is the only thing that worked. Talking about my feelings does not make the things go away that make me misserable. Had several therapists. Solved a thyroid issue with medication. Solved a vitamine d issue with supplementation. I made some of my therapists depressed and made them question their life choices lol. The root causes (there are several ones) of my depression cant be helped. One of them is genetics. It runs in my family. I dont have kids to lass these bad genes onto. I have exhausted every option. SSRIs reduce my anxiety and feelings of hopelessness for 10%. I will take it. Meditation works 10%.The other 80% I will just have to tough it out. As a kid I vowed not to yield to the darkness. But if I get Alzheimers or dementia I will pull the plug. Or maybe the dementia will knock out the specific tiny part of my brain that makes me depressed first. If there is a root cause you can CHANGE you are lucky. I have been of anti depressants for over a decade and I am going back on. I have had several talk therapies and they did jack sh/t. I have plenty of exercse. Nothing worked on atypical depression I do plenty of exercise as a farm hand. I am a high functioning depressed person. I can function with 4 hours of sleep. I can only sleep 8 hours on SSRIs and I am going back on. I had some adverse life events 20 years ago. Some bad stuff in my childhood before that. SSRIs is the only thing that worked. Talking about my feelings does not make the things go away that make me misserable. Had several therapists. Solved a thyroid issue with medication. Solved a vitamine d issue with supplementation. I made some of my therapists depressed and made them question their life choices lol. The root causes (there are several ones) of my depression cant be helped. One of them is genetics. It runs in my family. I dont have kids to lass these bad genes onto. I have exhausted every option. SSRIs reduce my anxiety and feelings of hopelessness for 10%. I will take it. Meditation works 10%.The other 80% I will just have to tough it out. As a kid I vowed not to yield to the darkness. But if I get Alzheimers or dementia I will pull the plug. Or maybe the dementia will knock out the specific tiny part of my brain that makes me depressed first. If there is a root cause you can CHANGE you are lucky. I first got on them when I was 34. 52 now

Amen!

Best comment!

Tranxene is not an antidepressant drug.

Hi. Cymbalta here as well. What are your symptoms now?

@@7inchdestroyer959, i have had PSSD for many yrs! Still insomnia most nights, still 25 kg overweight and more. Hope that it will get better. I execise, eat really healthy food and take care of my self. Hope that one day i will be fine again! 🙏🏻❣️

So discouraging

Have you gotten better at least?

The cymbalta withdrawal for me is what is making it so hard to get off of the drug. How did you taper the cymbalta since it is in a capsule form ? Thanks!

I've been off a benzo for a month now and I'm sweating so bad too. I invested in cooling pillows and bamboo bedding. Night sweats are the worst!

I once got off xanax and the feeling of being outside of my body was terrifying!

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That is true, doctors are quicker to diagnose personality disorders before neurodiverse. I was only diagnosed as having ADHD at the age of 37.

My son is the same. He has aspergers autism with major depressive disorder, OCD, social anxiety and he has to take meds permanently. I lost a brother to suicide over 23 years ago due to schitzophrenia. He was 31. Mental health can't be handled lightly. It can be very serious.

Seriously it must be end game.

He's not saying don't take the medication. It sounds like they worked for you. But make sure all your lifestyle stuff is in order because that ages a huge difference and could reduce your need for medication. (I speak as someone who has been there, survived, been a guinea pig for many different meds - some helped and others harmed - and is recovered now with hard work and very careful planning and efforts around lifestyle choices.)

Emotional Freedom Tapping or EFT - take it from me, a rational skeptic.... the method gently effectively shifts you, it really does. I'm still skeptical...as if tapping could help (?) yet keep going back to it because it works well. Weird as. Check it out. Lots of info online.

@@7hilladelphia Thank you for the suggestion.

Spot on. I believe it is every person's right to be fully informed and then decide if they feel like they need the help of the SSRI to turn down the volume for awhile during a crisis. It is a misconception that they will be healed by these medications. If they were healed, why would they need to stay on them indefinitely?

@@taperclinic thank you! The fact is, I knew I had real problems in life, and that meds will not solve them, they would just made me more "resilient" to stress. Maybe. But seeing the list of side-effects I decided to try with solving the problems without making them more blurred in my mind. Still not done but, I do need clear mind for my art. And art helps.

Lamictal/Lamotrigine has completely messed up my nervous system. I now have Ataxia and Dystonia for the rest of my life. SSRI always made me manic but Dr kept increasing them and adding on others. I stopped all the SSRI on my own gradually and am no longer having manic episodes.Lamotrigine seems to help overall, as long as it’s a low dose.

RA is a registered vaccine injury, written on most product information leaflets that accompany the injections.

Placebo saved your life. These drugs are just little better than placebo and cause disasters.

Josef has a video with an interesting interview with a woman in your similar situation. I absolutely recommend watching it. She has chronic pain and her life got destroyed by; in the end; not the pain but by all the pharmaceuticals. @DrJosef can you give us the title of the video please? 😊

Did you taper too quickly? My most successful taper off paroxetine took months. I tried going off faster but felt vile in every way. So I went back on (hated doing that but had to be realistic) and then stepped down much slower, not taking the next step down until the side effects faded to almost nothing. Re: pain after exercising - yes, I can sympathise. The exercise I tolerate the best is swimming combined with gentle walking and movement in the pool. Some days I almost live in the pool, because it's where my movement feels the most free, unrestricted and least painful. You haven't mentioned getting rubbish sleep to the point where you dread going to bed, but I'd bet that's in the mix for you as well. Do not lose hope, do not lose faith!!! Keep nibbling away at your issues from different angles, keep looking for partial solutions. You will have some successes! I have ended up with a sort of hodge podge of management solutions that HELP and it's always a joy when I find some little thing that I can add to my regime that improves one particular problem, even if it's just a bit (like a hot water bottle and magnesium cream for sore legs at night). Nothing is a complete fix (yet), but I have slowly come around to the idea that complex problems have complex solutions. Stay curious, ALWAYS explore and NEVER give up hope that you can gradually create your own solutions. Keep a journal, track your progress, what does and does not work. I celebrate EVERYTHING - the unexpected friendship I have struck up with a few women down at the pool, the night I slept 4 hours straight, the little happy place I have found playing Geoguessr, haha, the time I made the best cup of tea and enjoyed it right to the very last drop along with a crossword puzzle. NEVER compare your life to others and there seemingly massive health. Cling to and expand on the tiny things that ARE right in your life. Let it snowball in its own good time. There is a path out of the woods, my friend. You just have to be able to tolerate being IN the woods longer than you'd hoped. xo

@@BuntingClipClop Most definitely rubbish sleep. Which is also fairly new. I will try to journal but have historically been inconsistent. Thanks so much for your encouragement and I wish you all the best.

@@chriscouri4149 It's a process alright. All the very best.

@@BuntingClipClop I probably did taper too quickly but my PCP (as many) really don’t know the effects. I am steadily improving. I do go up and down. My husband and best friend say I am improving to them. The initial stopping of the Cymbalta 90 mg was fine. Then I was on a slippery slope for a few weeks. I worked through it and of course still am. When the lows come it feels like it won’t end, but it does. The lows aren’t lasting as long. It is going to take some time from what I understand. When I am not low I am interested in things again like my art and being with my friends. I do have panic/anxiety on waking daily. It’s tough to start the day like that. I hope it improves soon. Thanks. How are you doing?

@@chriscouri4149 I've been fine once I tapered slowly enough. If I started to feel panicky, I would (reluctantly) take a quarter or even an eight dose of paroxetine and see if that helped. It usually did. And to my surprise, it didn't take much and it didn't set me up for failure - as in, needing it all the time again - it just got my brain chemistry over the hump at that moment. I made a weird promise to my brain that went like this: "I know this is a massive change for you, but I'm committed to supporting you through it. If you're having too much trouble, I'll give you a little supporting dose and then we'll get back on track as soon as possible". Just trying to be gentle with my own brain, I suppose. I STILL give myself a tiny dose of paroxetine rather than start to suffer. To my way of thinking, it's an EXCELLENT sign for you that you feel fine upon waking for a few seconds before you go into freeze response again. That's wonderful and very very positive. But, totally agree, PCP's underestimate withdrawal issues about 1000%. Thanks for asking xo

Why would marriages fall apart if people were taking antidepressants? If anything it would keep people together because they're not so miserable anymore.

@@Mmmmkaaay how extremely naive & unfamiliar you are with all the negative side effects on these drugs. Loss of libido (sex drive) is the most common side effect. A VERY large number of people experience another common side effect- suicidal thoughts and WORSENING symptoms. It would take me DAYS to list all the horrific problems antidepressants and antipsychotics cause. It's tragic that you think these pills just work great for everyone who eats them 🤦😆😂🤣

Did the symptoms eventually stop? How long did it take? I feel like I can never get off of it due to the symptoms you described

@@rhondaurb the 'hurt brain' where everything irritated me stopped after a year; the rage anger while drinking coffee is still present 4 years later.

@@Hello-zf5lq it only happens when you drink coffee?!

@@rhondaurb yes, i think so; i cant stop drinking coffee so i dont know which is it

​@@Hello-zf5lqYou might want to switch to decaf. It's probably the caffeine.

I am tapering a benzo- then lexapro as well.

Hi, thanks for your comment. I’m in a similar situation, was put on meds at 14 but more so because my parents did not have the emotional capacity to work through my problems with me. I’m now 28, been through too many medications to count and for a while now I’ve known they’re not the answer - they’ve probably been hurting me more than helping me. I feel emotionless most of the time, apathetic, stuck, and decided to cut down on my medications with the goal of getting off. I’m afraid though, I’ve never been off of meds since I was out on and I feel like I have so many repressed and suppressed emotions that I don’t know what is going to happen when I come off completely. Do you have any advice? Also what were you like right before you decided to come off of your meds?

@@SportsPro123 Thanks for sharing, sorry to hear what you've been going through. I was very unwell leading up to that time. I had severe burnout at work, sleep deprivation. I was on the brink of collapse, like the meds weren't even working anymore. I made some irresponsible choices, stopped cold turkey. I tried to reach out to my NP for help, she was very careless, just told me to wean off a quarter mg/ week, basically just wrote me off. I also met a guy, who told me he wouldn't be with me if I was on meds, which triggered the crap out of me given past rejections. Thankfully, I found a doctor who helped me and gave me real treatment. She helped me process through past trauma, and unpack it all. I wouldn't recommend doing what I did. I'd suggest finding a trauma informed therapist and psychiatrist. They are hard to come by. Also, I'd recommend CoDA--codependent's anonymous. that would be a good place to start, working through family dynamics and hard emotions. Melody Beattie's "Codependent No More" is Good. Also, Brooke Siem's book, "May Cause Side Effects." "Mad in America" is a website that you might like, too. You might look into some long-term psych treatment problems at reputable facilities.

Dangerous and damaging. Numerous of scientific studies show that SSRI’s and other psychiatric drugs can cause irreversible damage to different parts of the brain.

Echo this, seen in my practice many times ! Wait times are so long to get patients into sleep clinics too

​@@taperclinic Ironically in my case, a 60 days waiting list was my salvation. I sent you an e-mail with a link to a brief interview.

I've had nightmare disorder for 2 years now, every day getting worse. Polysomnography showed I had no problem breathing, but I never really fell asleep. I already had depression way before the nightmare disorder, but I began having nightmares after fibromyalgia symptoms started getting worse. Tried all medications, none of them worked But it's 100% valid to do a check up, all these symptoms I mentioned are all common to sleep apnea

@@thetrawlerman Polysomnography seems thorough, but good interpretation takes time and cost saving has the highest priority. For example, I had all the CFS/ME symptoms including POTS but my AHI score never exceeded 2.5 😆 There are some channels like CPAPfriend and TheLankyLefty26 that explain the problems with common sleep studies.

There can be many causes for depression. That one can be considered but your suggestion of that being the first thing checked is ridiculous.

Or people on hormones.

​@@edie4321WHY?

@@Brendawallingbear , It can cause psychosis. It happened to me with Prozac, and the Depo Provera shot. I came out of body and tried to end my life. Very dangerous combo, that needs to be talked about. Especially today, when it only takes to appointments to get hormones prescribed.

Preferably not to anyone!!

@@Jetmab04 , Seems to be, the younger, the better. They don't want them reaching the age of reason.

I’m depressed and I’ve got none of that. Sorry I don’t fit your narrative you wish to push. You sound like a bitter little pill.

This is the fallacy and stigma that keeps people from seeking help. Good for you, being so ignorant must be nice.

I used to feel depressed when I was young for the reasons I stated, everyone was so quick to push pills onto me. But I made serious lifestyle changes and completely changed my outlook on the world. Now my mood as been consistent for years. Severe depression does exist, but a lot of cases aren't severe and professionals are bad at differentiating between people who just lead depressing lives and people who are genuinely ill as they often have something to sell you. Mild depression can be a good thing as long as it's situation and duration appropriate, people nowadays tend to be too soft and decadent.

@rayclam8079 can't say I disagree. I'm glad you're doing better. They are definitely prescribed carelessly in many cases.

Truth

Echo this! Everyone should be tested for folate and B12/D, meds won’t help if you have a vitamin deficiency and needs to be supplemented

Eff the docs who wont give HRT. But don't worry, order her wild yam (dioscorea villosa) pills, they are dead cheap you can get from many reputable brands like "nature's best" and "Solaray". They do not contain any female hormones but instead have diosgenin which the body takes up and makes its own progesterone with. It's our happy hormone! Menopausal women should take it for 22 days then a break of 6 days, then again cycling it mimicking a period. I've given it to older women and it works wonders 😉