The Ugly Truth About Paint Protection Film (PPF) After Just 6 Months & 3,500 Miles

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Out of Spec Detailing

Out of Spec Detailing

Күн бұрын

Coleton looks at a paint-protected Mercedes he recently did a full correction, detail, and coatings on to discuss paint protection film, or PPF, and how it holds up in the real world. Hear his opinions on PPF in general and when it makes sense to go with it as an option.
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0:00 Welcome
0:47 My Background with PPF
3:03 What Bugs Do To PPF
6:54 My Take On PPF Value
8:28 Rock Chips
10:06 Installer Issues
14:46 Wrap-Up
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@mynameismyname6194
@mynameismyname6194 6 ай бұрын
Isn’t the whole point of PPF that it is a sacrificial layer so instead of the bug stains permanently damaging your paint it damages the PPF? So essentially you don’t have to repaint your car and as result reducing the resale value of your car, you just take off the PPF and now have a more desirable car to sell or trade in and with perfect (original) paint, which ultimately means higher price for the seller.
@shojus
@shojus 6 ай бұрын
That's what he explained in this video. It's when you see people getting PPF on a vehicle that will never recoup the costs of even getting that done is what boggles my mind! To each his own I guess...
@suvann540i
@suvann540i 4 ай бұрын
real talk... prior to ppf being a thing, i've never sold/traded in a car where the paint having minor defects affected it's value.
@hotdognobun
@hotdognobun 4 ай бұрын
I've had PPF/Wrap at a shop here in San Diego. After 7 years I removed them and notice lines of scratches everywhere that is caused by the razor the shop used. The value definitely went down and to say you get good value when selling or trading is not true.
@FrankW1029
@FrankW1029 4 ай бұрын
@@hotdognobun exactly, PPF and vinyl wrapping is always risky when the installer hand cuts. All those video saying they are so good that they only cut the vinyl and not underneath are all BS. Those videos you see they cut vinyl over their hands; the truth is your skin is stretchable, the low amount of pressure applied over the skin with some of the blades will not cut you, but if you take that same amount of pressure apply it to paint that doesn't stretch it will leave a mark. Why does the vinyl cut then? because vinyl is a type of material that once it starts to rip the edge of the knife will slice through.
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 4 ай бұрын
"I am a professional specialized in paint correction and ceramic coatings. PPF is not worth the cost and inconvenience, I recommend paint correction and ceramic coating. Trust me, bro!" 🤣
@ericsawatzky54
@ericsawatzky54 6 ай бұрын
As someone who is in the PPF/Ceramic industry I can appreciate this video. In my opinion, the only way to sell PPF is as a sacrificial layer of protection (like you mentioned) to protect your paint. PPF is a tangible product that will always be there and protect the paint from the majority of scratches, chips and dings regardless of how someone takes care of their vehicle. There is a big education curve that needs to take place between the installer and the consumer and lots of that education you touched on well in this video.
@SirGalahadThePure
@SirGalahadThePure 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. When I ordered my Charger Hellcat, I immediately looked to set up PPF installation. The whole point is to protect the original paint and replace the PPF panels as needed. I have replaced the PPF on the wide body just in front of the passenger doors and it was relatively cheap. Paint underneath what still perfect though the PPF was pretty beat up.
@sheldonduffy9442
@sheldonduffy9442 Ай бұрын
In my opinion, in the long run, PPF always looks worse, especially on light colored cars.
@ericHHII
@ericHHII Ай бұрын
If people are more educated though, the price is gonna drive way down
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 6 ай бұрын
I drive quite a bit up to 28k miles a year. My commute to work is almost all expressway and with my last car I just couldn’t keep up with massive amounts of rock chips I was getting. When I bought my Type R the first thing I did was take it in for professionally installed PPF and ceramic coating. PPF may not be for everyone, but I am quite happy with how it has protected the leading edges of my car up to this point.
@alichaudhry12
@alichaudhry12 4 ай бұрын
Congrats, I just got mine a couple of weeks ago and thinking of going with matte PPF. How you looking the car so far?
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 4 ай бұрын
@@alichaudhry12 Welcome to the club. I'm loving the car. It is by far the most fun car I have owned. Of course most of all my other cars were family sedans. My CTR is Championship White and I just had the roof PFF wrapped in gloss black and it really helps to tie in with the rear wing. It looks great.
@alichaudhry12
@alichaudhry12 4 ай бұрын
@@chrissimmons9969 that's what I have and am looking to do the exact same with the roof, can I get some pics please.
@chrissimmons9969
@chrissimmons9969 4 ай бұрын
@@alichaudhry12 sure how can I get pics to you?
@Dejan_23Unlimited
@Dejan_23Unlimited 4 ай бұрын
JAAAAAG 🙏
@jimbuono2404
@jimbuono2404 4 ай бұрын
A year ago I bought a 4 year old Mercedes SL450 with full PPF over the entire car. The car was just off lease and had spent it's life in Florida, bug capital of the US. The paint was flawless. Not a swirl, not a stain, no blems except for a couple of chips on a mirror. What creates flaws in the paint is driving 70 mph on the highway or perhaps a windy day around town. Dust, fine particles of dirt and the like create micro abrasions in the paint. This is where you benefit from ppf. The ppf protects from these types of abrasions and they don't seem to damage the ppf at all. After my owning the car for another year, the paint looks like it just came out of the factory. Yes, it's expensive, but unless you drag out the buffing wheel once a year, and I don't, the ppf will, in most cases, keep your paint looking factory fresh.
@mach183
@mach183 Ай бұрын
This so good to hear I just moved too Florida
@IronCan88
@IronCan88 Ай бұрын
I have xpel ppf and it makes me happy knowing my paint is protected, and when i wash my car i know uts going to look like new and shiny. Because i have OCD and any imperfection just gets in my nerves, so ppf is easily worth it for me. If you dont care about rock chip and are mainly focused on value then dont use ppf. You wont get your money back when you sell your car, but while you own the car, you will be happy ppf helped keep it looking beautiful 😍
@alexstealth27
@alexstealth27 Ай бұрын
Great video. Answered so many of my questions. Great content!! So happy I can make an informed decision now and not regret it down the road by not having had someone explain everything to me as you have.
@TheDrivenDave
@TheDrivenDave 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, Coleton. I’ve had mixed feelings about not getting PPF for my car, but this makes me relieved I didn’t get it! I had no idea there were so many downsides. Hope to see you again soon!
@DogDongDotCom
@DogDongDotCom 5 ай бұрын
Here is a quick video summary for those who don't have time to view the entire thing. Classic or High End Car = Get PPF Any Tesla (even plaid) = Get PPF if you like wasting more money, even though you think you are saving on not purchasing gas. Like and Subscribe.
@Henry_Jr_Watsson
@Henry_Jr_Watsson 4 ай бұрын
@@DogDongDotCom Just get coloured PPF as a cool wrap ;) Now you have a fancy color AND it's PPF'd. Just wash it regularly and it won't get damaged by regular wear and tear.
@rickhunter6513
@rickhunter6513 4 ай бұрын
I bought a black c5z06 several years ago and the first thing I did was PPF the front, hood and side mirror housings. For a black car you care about, I think PPF is very beneficial because black shows EVERYTHING
@jameslee2738
@jameslee2738 2 ай бұрын
Except that with a black car all the scratches and abrasions in th PPF now look like white blemishes... I know I have one with PPF... never again@@rickhunter6513
@bartekkozie7122
@bartekkozie7122 Ай бұрын
I’am the owner of PPF studio in Australia and wanted to thank you for the video. I have to agree that PPF is not for everyone, I always mention to my customers this wont solve all your problems. In my opinion PPF is worth the money as long as you use best brands like Suntek or XPEL. Installation process is a key - edge wrapped, do not overstretch and use patterns. A lot of people don’t understand PPF installation is basically a handcraft and many of detailers expend their services without thinking how difficult it is to make it right and that’s what destroying our industry. I found educating people about the whole idea make them coming back with other vehicles. In addition detailers sell ceramic coating as a paint protection which everyone knows it does not, expect UV.
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 17 күн бұрын
What happens if you put 3+ layers of ppf on ? Just wondering if 1 layer is kinda good. What would 10 layers do. Then when the top layer is damaged you peel it off and its like new underneath. 😅
@hypereffects972
@hypereffects972 15 күн бұрын
@@dnegel9546 You would never, ever need 10 layers of ppl. Most pff films are at minimum 8 mils thick. More than thick enough for rock chips to never go through. The film doesn't get shredded over the years. So to answer your question, nothing would happen other than them unnecessary being on the car. 1 layer of ppl is good.
@znemo5275
@znemo5275 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your video. It helped me so much to understand the PRO/CON of PPF. Really appreciate the truth you shared here.
@slimdaddyy
@slimdaddyy 4 ай бұрын
I believe PPF is good for people who don’t like scratches, point blank. It’s not about making things perfect. When parking in parking lots or driving long periods. It’s helpful to know you have that extra layer of protection instead of getting your car re painted.
@zacklewis342
@zacklewis342 3 ай бұрын
How are you protected by paying thousands upfront to MAYBE save a few thousand on paint IF you ever happen to need it?
@slimdaddyy
@slimdaddyy 3 ай бұрын
I paid $5200 for a full X3M in XPEL. A lot of shops upcharge like crazy. That is cheaper than respirating. Most Luxury cars have expensive paint therefore it cost. Especially labor. I live in the northeast and labor here is not cheap. I rather pay $5200 once to protect my depreciation asset that I love to drive. It doesn’t protect against everything but 90% of things on the road it can.
@slimdaddyy
@slimdaddyy 3 ай бұрын
Than re spraying*** typo
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 ай бұрын
BINGO! And that is exactly why I have it on my hood. Only partial though, and it has paid for itself. ZERO rock chips after 7 years and that's on 2 cars. ALL our cars previously, were covered in multiple rock chips when we had to sell them. Not ideal! So there 100% IS a place for PPF.
@executiveinvestments
@executiveinvestments 2 ай бұрын
@@zacklewis342 go repaint the front of ur car and see the car value drop like a rock from it. You seem like the type of person who says why get insurance? You man never need it.
@whereisthedollar
@whereisthedollar 6 ай бұрын
Thank You, for someone in the industry finally stating the whole truth about PPF. I've seen some pretty bad work out there where you can tell by just seeing the edges. On some it would have been better too just have an new paint job. Also, PPF doesn't last forever.
@executiveinvestments
@executiveinvestments 2 ай бұрын
PPF lasts way longer than most people keep their cars. So whats the problem?
@williamelkington5430
@williamelkington5430 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, Coleton. Very helpful.
@steveanderson5226
@steveanderson5226 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest opinion! I love this channel and all the insight that you bring to bear :)
@shnerp
@shnerp 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. As a person who had a bad PPf experience, I thought Id comment. If you are going to get PPF, make sure you get it installed by a professional and insist on seeing some of thier work in person before giving them any of your money. My first experience was through a shop with 5 star ratings, but i never had a chance to see any of thier PPF work. The end result was an install with all the flaws Coleton shows, along with knife cuts into the paint! PPF was removed by another shop and most, but not all of the knife cuts could be polished out. Not a good start for a brand new vehicle. In the future, only paint correction and ceramic coatings for me.
@zuvin2350
@zuvin2350 4 ай бұрын
My exact same experience. And my exact same conclusion
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 2 ай бұрын
The whole half of the video of you talking around the car before zooming in, it looks perfectly fine to me. Seems like the ppf did it's job.
@richscott2483
@richscott2483 Ай бұрын
Once the damage is done, will you be happy to spend another $2,000 plus dollars every 6 months to 12 months?
@j.taveras8447
@j.taveras8447 Ай бұрын
@@richscott2483 Complete bs, I've had my car PPF'd for over two years w ceramic coat on top and have zero issues. You do not need to replace it every 6-12 months. My previous M3 had PPF/cermaic coat for four years. It had minor chips on the PPF but otherwise perfect and without the PPF it would have been the paint.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 5 ай бұрын
I had PPF put on my CX5 gloss black plastic door pillars. The plastic is ridiculously soft so it needed some way of helping stop scratching. The PPF does help prevent lots of micro scratches but PPF is itself prone to scratching that won’t self heal. It’s only the micro scratches that self heal.
@cheahkaimun1
@cheahkaimun1 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. It does help to prevent scratches from my neighbours 5:11 cats which like to lying on my car. Prevent many stone chips whenever following truck with load of stones or sand…..
@thrillhax
@thrillhax 6 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on ceramic on top of PPF? My Detailer did that for my install and my PPF still looks like it’s brand new from a year ago. Granted we don’t have as many bugs and I hand wash every weekend.
@JamboneMan
@JamboneMan 4 ай бұрын
I did the same on my Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe Summit Reserve. It looks amazing and so easy to maintain. They key to PPF really comes down to the installer. I only did partial PPF and the installer spent about 12 hours custom printing and cutting in a mobile lab at my house. He is a high experienced installer. I spent a week or so preparing the surfaces and this was before the car was driven after purchase. Make sure you find a very, very good experienced installer otherwise walk away...
@dahnejaygomez
@dahnejaygomez 2 ай бұрын
Thank yoy! Good thing I saw your vid. I nearly had my daily driven crv done as I get unwanted scratches and bugs stains and got tired of cleaning it off every weekend thinking that ppf will help.
@justinsugay1149
@justinsugay1149 3 ай бұрын
I feel your passion for what you do. This was very helpful. Thank you!
@postridebeers
@postridebeers 4 ай бұрын
Thank you. Exactly the video I needed to see
@anangelshero0410
@anangelshero0410 4 ай бұрын
Think about this, if a rock chip would've damaged the PPF as described in this video, can you imagine how badly it would've damaged the clearcoat AND paint!?
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 ай бұрын
Rocks don't damage PPF. The video is silly.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 Ай бұрын
@@jacobpetersen5662what about all the dents and divots in the film he showed?
@filippxx
@filippxx Ай бұрын
Of course it does, not all rocks are made equal. ​@@jacobpetersen5662
@tommykaira8775
@tommykaira8775 10 күн бұрын
He's saying bugs damaged the PPF
@zachc9551
@zachc9551 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 Mazda cx-9. I have PPF on my car since new from rock guard films on the east coast in Pennsylvania and have no problem or issues like this. Looks great since day one. It goes to my detailer about every 6-8 month for maintenance washes. I also have a ceramic coating and they say the car and ppf is great.
@tjuan7
@tjuan7 2 ай бұрын
I was actually looking into getting this done on my new car. Just saved me a lot of money. Thanks.
@shojus
@shojus 6 ай бұрын
PPF should NEVER be sold as an "enhancement" to your vehicle! It's a barrier to protect your factory paint so that you can resell and hopefully recoup the cost of the PPF. For me, I don't drive on the highway much and don't follow close to cars ahead of me. I see people getting PPF on a Nissan Sentra, and for me that's just throwing your money away! If you have a very expensive car, get some PPF to protect your car from losing its value even more than it already will.
@LifeLongLearner-om8jx
@LifeLongLearner-om8jx 6 ай бұрын
My rule of thumb for PPF is if the cost of the PPF is >10% of the cost of the car then it makes no sense whatsoever (with a few exceptions).
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 4 ай бұрын
100%
@Dejan_23Unlimited
@Dejan_23Unlimited 4 ай бұрын
Really
@kevindhouck
@kevindhouck Ай бұрын
I really, really appreciate your HONEST opinion about PPF. I was on the fence about spending that kind of money on something that I really wasn’t sure about but you have convinced me that it’s not worth it. I realize that this video will upset some PPF installers, but people need to see the pros and cons with it and that it’s not a perfect product. Thank you again I really enjoyed your video. I’m just going to have it ceramic coated, and call it a day.
@alairys
@alairys 12 күн бұрын
Thank you so so much for this video honestly you helped me save so much ! Grateful for people like you that are honest !!!! We need more in this world !!
@Supercruze
@Supercruze Ай бұрын
It is nice to hear your opinion and I learned a few things about what makes a good or bad PPF install. I have put PPF on my vehicles for years thinking it is the best protection from rock chips in the long run, but I have discovered like you point out that some rocks can get through and damage the paint anyway. The other dirty secret with PPF is that it needs to be replaced on a routine basis. It is not install it for the life of the vehicle. I have an 09 Corvette Z06 that came with PPF installed on the front section. That PPF is now starting to dry out and check in places and will need to be removed at great expense. I have decided to forgo PPF on my newest vehicle purchase.
@pamfox1601
@pamfox1601 2 ай бұрын
TRUELY APPRECIATE THIS MOST VALUABLE & INFORMATIVE INFORMATION U TOOK YOUR TIME 2 SHARE this with us. I was contemplating having the " rest" if my brand new FORESTER PPF'd ......HOWEVER THANKS 2 YOUR video i am just going have the ceramic coating applied & CARE 4 MY FIRST NEW CAR as it should B...& hand wash, double buckets & IF I need a car wash once in awhile....BRUSHLESS 😮 THANK U SO MUCH 4 YOUR TIME & CONSIDERATION in making this video 4 all of us who really want ti know IF its worth it 😮 I WISH I wud have seen it B4 I had the front of my car, fenders, & pillars done with PPF.... I live in the PNW ...no garage & i truely WANTED the BEST PROTECTION 👌
@lagunamusic7686
@lagunamusic7686 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, what’s your opinion on ceramic coating?
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark Ай бұрын
Got Xpel PPF on our 2022 Model Y. I finally got around to hand-washing it this week (no-touch washes leave a greyish dirt film). Car looks like new. Better yet, the PPF makes the paint look like it has 20 layers of clear coat on it. PS Bug spots are harder to get off (ceramic coating helped). I'll have a closer look for PPF damage and for big rock chips too. Thanks Coleton! Lotsa love to all ❤❤❤
@Totyroby
@Totyroby 3 ай бұрын
Funny thing I discovered about PPF: I polished the headlights on an Aston Martin, and when I put the PPF on them, I realized it ALREADY HAD PPF. That's on me, but it proves to show PPF can be buffed/ polished and made look like new...at least on headlights.
@kevronreid3234
@kevronreid3234 Ай бұрын
This was VERY informative. Nice to have a non-salesman talk clearly about the benefits and disadvantages of PPF
@paolotiglao
@paolotiglao 3 ай бұрын
had mine on 3yrs and counting, and i live in a tropical country. no problems. no peeling. ppf looks good still.
@Vanguardkl
@Vanguardkl 4 ай бұрын
I think this is the fastest like and subscribe I've ever done in 15 years watching KZfaq. Great stuff, hi from malaysia
@joelupetz5157
@joelupetz5157 2 ай бұрын
What if we put ceramic coating on top of PPF? Would it solve the issues you pointed out aside from a poor application by the detailer?
@timmietz
@timmietz 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don’t think so. Very strange viewpoint in my humble opinion. I own about 40 cars and almost all of them have some PPF and I probably have about 10 cars that I have full PF on them. The proper way to protect a new car is Pain correction, then, PPF, then ceramic coating over the PPF. In the last seven or so years, I’ve used three different shops. One of them does amazing work every time, the other two, it depends on who did the job as far as the technician himself. That new EXPEL thicker film is awesome. Also, the matte film is terrific in my opinion. My matte paint cars I don’t even drive at all until they are PPFed. As far as staining, yes, I have had one year old PPF redone twice. Both times it had to do with the fact that the car sat in the sun with sapp stains on the PPF. And, regardless of what it is, older, film, seven years plus old, will need to be replaced if you drive the car at all. I am a big fan of ceramic coating, but only if it goes on top of the PPF. Lastly, the worstPPF that I have seen both from the application technique perspective as well as the quality of the film itself, is Factory PPF on the newer Porsches.
@Chomperoni23
@Chomperoni23 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you 💯
@zacklewis342
@zacklewis342 3 ай бұрын
So, pay multiple thousands of dollars and waste loads of your valuable time instead of just maintaining your paint with regular washes and garaging? Even if you have a paint issue, it will probably be minor and cost way less than all of this nonsense.
@jonathanparkinson9536
@jonathanparkinson9536 9 күн бұрын
I'm thinking about PPF for my pickup truck. I want to protect the paint as best I can but I also have to take the vehicle through dirt tracks and woodland (I run a farm). For me, PPF seems like the best option - Protection against scratches small "Branches" and protection against track stones etc. Great video and thanks for spending the time putting this together.
@allann7333
@allann7333 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the breakdown.
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE PPF for a partial hood. I have 2 cars that are 7 years old and their hoods are 100% free of rock chips. I don't love it for bugs, and that's why I only do a partial hood. It has never faded and looks as new as when I installed it 7 years ago.
@teamgartz-motorsports6881
@teamgartz-motorsports6881 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I only have done PPF on my cars that are 100k+, there is no reason to do in a beater. And a good PPF starts at 5k, and needs to be replaced every few years to not look garbage. But it will protect from rock chips and bird poop, the PPF might fade but the painting underneath won’t. A good PPF shop will do paint correction before applying the PPF and then after to make sure it looks neat.
@teamgartz-motorsports6881
@teamgartz-motorsports6881 2 ай бұрын
@japanwatchconnection it’s just s matter of finance. A paint that costs 1k to fix a panel of the car, in a car that will be beat up, there is no reason to spend 3k protecting it. I let it get beat up and repaint it. A car that costs 10k to 20k to repaint, it worths a PPF expense of 5k to keep the original painting as those cars usually have multi-layer painting that is quite expensive. It’s not about being elitist, just smart about how to spend the money. Of course if your car is special and you love how it looks with PPF and that gives you a good feeling and you can spend. Go ahead. Tho I have 10k cars either fade out painting that I couldn’t care less, as far as I can have fun with it driving around. And others that I want to preserver the painting and it will be more expensive to fix than protect.
@jomarisangalang
@jomarisangalang 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your POV. I've been thinking about installing it in my car but when I saw your video I'm thinking thrice. They said there are self healing PPF, I might find a review for that.
@patrickbateman9887
@patrickbateman9887 6 ай бұрын
I have two cars that I'm going to get aftermarket painted. I intend to then get PPF because in my experience aftermarket paint isn't as strong (they don't have the $500M ovens Lexus has) and chips much easier. I'd much prefer the defects you've shown to the number of chips I've gotten on aftermarket paint. My real concern is will removing and replacing it someday take the paint off with it. Thoughts anyone?
@autowerkesexclusive
@autowerkesexclusive 2 ай бұрын
If the prep work done by the body shop was on point and heat ( such as steam ) is used during the removal process, you should be fine.
@jasonrichard6286
@jasonrichard6286 2 ай бұрын
You are really good at explaining stuff. I didn’t know a lot about this process but know a lot more now!
@willminor1
@willminor1 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the heads up brother ! very informative
@adenogordon5909
@adenogordon5909 2 ай бұрын
so what your saying is it make more sense to not put any film on and have the rock hit the paint.... not film and have the bugs etch the actual paint? Not there is wet sanding buffing involved. i would rather having a ppf with lifting edges than having to buff and possibly paint a car. im pretty sure you are good at your profession, but this video is not affective. if anything it more proved why you SHOULD get PPF.
@rohannaeem123
@rohannaeem123 2 ай бұрын
100%, right.
@whatsupwithsteve
@whatsupwithsteve 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great review! I just bought a GLE AMG63s and of course want to do the best thing to keep it looking good. But I thought back over all the cars I have owned and realized that while they did get a few rock chips, other than that they looked just fine as I hand wash and wax(nano-coat) them myself. Your video confirmed that I made the right decision to save thousands of dollars on PPG.
@whatsupwithsteve
@whatsupwithsteve 3 ай бұрын
@@japanwatchconnection It's a car, not jewelry. Touchup paint works just fine if applied the right way..:)
@Dawood4
@Dawood4 2 ай бұрын
Exactly, unless your car is a literal showpiece you are trying to preserve, it will literally be cheaper just to repaint the whole car. PPF on the entire car would cost close to 10,000. You can get an amazing paint job for a third of that. We're never gonna make up the resale value in a few rock chips by spending thousands on PPF
@RobertKeenanComp-U-Right
@RobertKeenanComp-U-Right 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for helping me with my decision.👍
@georgevavoulis4758
@georgevavoulis4758 3 ай бұрын
Should I get PPF if I live in extreme weather like Northern US and Canada and we get road salt etc .?
@lahzx10
@lahzx10 7 күн бұрын
I have had 3M PPF installed and my commute is mainly HWY and over the years I have not in counter the issues that you mentioned, maybe is the quality of ppf that a dealer uses because the 3M film has done a great job on my car and if there are a few dings from rocks they have never penetrated the film and I have not had any issues with bug stain they always come off without leaving a mark, Its absolutely worth it to me.
@SANTIAGOSANCHEZ-yw3pd
@SANTIAGOSANCHEZ-yw3pd 3 ай бұрын
So is paint correction a better option once you get rock chips?
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 4 ай бұрын
This video for has come at a great time. I am looking to have my model y front end ppf and the car ceramic coated. Since it’s a daily driver I think doing the ceramic coat only will be a better value. I do plan on driving this car into ground as they say.
@arshadhabib3063
@arshadhabib3063 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for providing this informative video, I just purchased a BMW 3 series. This car is very special to me and I was considering doing a PPF but now I don't know if I should after watching your video. This will be a daily driver and I work from home so the car will not be driven on highways, I also live in the city.
@southbayproducts5371
@southbayproducts5371 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir. Great info
@panagiotis-fz7lz
@panagiotis-fz7lz 26 күн бұрын
I just bought a new 2023 subaru brz and I'm thinking of putting ppf on it. Are they going to take the parts out of my car? I have no confidence that they will put them back as they were in my country. What do you recommend?
@Simon23m
@Simon23m Ай бұрын
Just curious on the alternative? Apart from expensive and super cars what you think people should do instead of PPF?
@gassman55
@gassman55 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 E450 wagon with 12K miles on it. 99% perfect and I am considering a front wrap (PPF). I am planning a cross country trip in a few months and think this may still be worth it, I agree that this isn't the time to cut costs. However with only reviews to go on how do you really know the skill level of the installer. I guess I could verbally ask for the "best" installer after asking a lot of questions showing interest in detail. I will move forward but if you were traveling across country 2700 miles does that sway you to get it? BTW: I plan on holding the car barring mechanical issues for 6-10 years.
@CENSOREDFORSPEAKINGTRUTHS4380
@CENSOREDFORSPEAKINGTRUTHS4380 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t wrapping it be better than ppf or are they both the same thing ?
@vo2098
@vo2098 Ай бұрын
How do you prevent those marks under the film from happening? Are those from over stretching? Dirty water?
@AJ-bi6ns
@AJ-bi6ns 5 ай бұрын
How do the high end ceramic/extra hydrophobic films do with bug stains? Vs how quick are they stains removed?
@stevenbenton2061
@stevenbenton2061 Ай бұрын
Modesta Ceramic Coating, here I come. Been thinking about doing film on my soon to be factory delivered BMW, but had concerns (like lifting film). Thx for answering questions I have suspected to be problematic with PPF.
@roadracerqx893
@roadracerqx893 4 ай бұрын
Rock chips and bug splatter ruin PPF, but isn’t that what it’s for? So what’s the alternative wrap film for a color change on a daily driver ?
@PaniczAdam
@PaniczAdam 3 ай бұрын
I have my car PPFed and I am super happy about it. My PPF is self-healing and you can scratch it with a fork and after a couple of sunny hours, it looks perfect again.
@IndyAvocadoKid
@IndyAvocadoKid 16 күн бұрын
Oh, you have the new self healing type of PPF, cool! One of the local shops even has a demo plate on the wall where you can scratch up the gloss black plate with a wire brush then blow dry it with a hair dryer, scratches just disappear like magic. And like you say sunny places can heat up the hood enough to fix up scratches too….pretty neat stuff!😊
@myname2263
@myname2263 4 ай бұрын
If you add ceramic coating to the PPF does it still have the same bug stains ?
@chrisbradley3224
@chrisbradley3224 4 ай бұрын
I have had PPF for 2.5 years on my car and I have no bug stains at all. Not one. I keep the car pretty clean and with spray sealant though.
@broderp
@broderp 4 ай бұрын
You made me want PPF after watching this video. If it gets damaged and saves the paint, then fine. You failed to provide a better alternative, and something is better than nothing. It sounds to me that if your story is true, then the owner of that car didn't clean it often enough and let the bugs damage the PPF. You t h en criticized people who care about protecting their car. Nice.
@iSmokey-fq1kb
@iSmokey-fq1kb 15 күн бұрын
So did u get it or was this all talk?
@wheresthepictureidk2817
@wheresthepictureidk2817 6 ай бұрын
Do you think fixing rock chips after couple year period looks better and is cheaper than having ppf and replacing it after the same time period?
@ZackScriven
@ZackScriven 5 ай бұрын
PPF will look better.
@ak-iy4yb
@ak-iy4yb 4 ай бұрын
Define better. Better in price? Better in look? Most chips are in the bumper and hood. If you really want paint protection, the smartest move is to get PPF in the bumper and hood only. Possibly lower side of vehicle as well.@@ZackScriven
@ZackScriven
@ZackScriven 4 ай бұрын
@@ak-iy4yb better in way it looks. That’s why I said it will look better. 🤔
@jonesjones7057
@jonesjones7057 4 ай бұрын
My experience. I have an 11 year old jag xf with 125k miles on it. No PPF. At some point lately the front bumper was pretty thrashed with rock chips so I had the front bumper repainted by a shop with great reviews and it looks as good as new. It cost $900. Seems better to just save the money and repaint after a few years than PPF. As this guy said, if I had a super car that would be different, but a typical car, dont think so.
@mastrasport
@mastrasport 4 ай бұрын
@@jonesjones7057 I have exactly the same experience. To be honest even if I have to repaint my front even 2-3 years it would still be cheaper that PPF. Also I would never be convince that PPF will look as new after years, you can never prevent peel offs and dust collection at the edges.
@yuvalkapellner2551
@yuvalkapellner2551 4 ай бұрын
My car is fully ppf'ed. Aside the roof which doesn't count because it is a tesla and it is just glass. I was involved in an accident that was not fatal, Another car just scrapped through my right rear door down to the wheel arch and bumber. The whole area was heavily scuffed and a dent was created at the wheel arch area. The ppf saved my car paint and clearcoat. It protected it. My installer removed it and it was again like new. I had pdr done on the dented area and new ppf was installed instead of the one that was ruined on the door and back right side again. This car is white pearl. If i had to repaint and keep it look like new, it would end up repainting the whole right side of the car or otherwise it wouldn't be perfect color blending. So ppf was worth it to me. Car also looks much glossier than without it so it shines alot more. The ppf is self healing so any minor scratches just dissappear under the warm sun and the shine level remains high.
@Evanraylaw
@Evanraylaw Ай бұрын
If I do a decent job of getting the bugs off quickly without letting it sit, won’t it decrease the staining?
@VgAce135
@VgAce135 6 ай бұрын
So your rationale for not getting PPF is because it leaves a mark on the PPF when there is a rock chip? Do you not understand what happens when a rock hits your car? It chips the paint. On my previous car that did not have PPF I had so many rock chips. I would go over it with touch up paint, which would cost money, but it was never that good of a job. PPF would have protected my paint. It is not perfect, but PPF is better than nothing. And the dealership that I got it installed at gave me a 10 year warranty on the PPF. Even if I trade in the car, it will be worth more with having PPF installed. Hard to say that is not worth it.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 Ай бұрын
Most dealers hardly look at a car when they give it a value for trade in. They look it over once, maybe drive it, and give a value. Your 2-3k in film isn’t going to make them give you more. I traded in a car with 100s of rock chips up front and got more a little more than trade in value was, and I didn’t spend 3 grand on film
@VgAce135
@VgAce135 Ай бұрын
@@19hundoc47 Remind me never to buy a car that you have driven then. Sounds like you don't take care of them at all.
@dieselsyndrome1755
@dieselsyndrome1755 26 күн бұрын
I had 3 vehicles done with ppf. Never again. This guy is spot on in his video. I'd rather fix some paint chips. I don't have any on my 3 MBs and together I have over 600k on them. They still look far better than any car I had with ppf after 2 years. Just my opinion
@VgAce135
@VgAce135 26 күн бұрын
@@19hundoc47 If you don't take of your cars then that's on you. So I will definitely not be buying any car you have ever driven. No clue why this concept is so hard for you to understand in that it took you a month you reply to my comment. But you do you, buddy.
@19hundoc47
@19hundoc47 26 күн бұрын
@@VgAce135 whatever you say troll boy, stay mad
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 2 ай бұрын
So what do you suggest people do to protect their paint? PPS? Nothing at all? Naked paint has its disadvantages too.
@stuffhappens5681
@stuffhappens5681 4 ай бұрын
I drove to work on the highway about a half our each way. I live in an industrial city (although nowhere near as industrial as it used to be) so there are a fair share of trucks of all types. Add to that road salt and the fact that the roadway is full of debris each Spring, so if you’re like me and like to keep your car as detailed as possible under adverse conditions then I can see the use case for PPF. After I retired and only do local driving I peeled it off my GTI and must admit it mostly did its job. But regardless of paint protection a top tip is to always install it on your headlight lenses. If you do they’ll never yellow or haze over from harmful UV rays.
@ngdanskraal2227
@ngdanskraal2227 3 ай бұрын
I live in SA. I ppf my car at a reputable car detailer. I had done a roadtrip of mote than 4000 km's. No problems. Any bugs I just wiped them off at the end of the day. I had my second car done. No problem. I only did the front part because of lack of funds. It's only ordinary cars but it was the best decision. Perhaps thete are fitters and fitters.
@ericHHII
@ericHHII Ай бұрын
What happened to carnauba wax being the “sacrificial layer”?
@ironcross420
@ironcross420 Ай бұрын
What about using on a Snap-On Black Powder Coated Toolbox? PPF or Coatings?
@jasonsong86
@jasonsong86 4 ай бұрын
I have had bugs that would swell and even stain paint but it goes away after being baked in the hot sun for a day or two. The way I look at cars is that unless it's collectable just drive the car, it won't make a difference when you go trade it in. Also a lot of times, if the paint is not perfect on a car, it will damage the paint than not having it.
@L3AF
@L3AF 18 күн бұрын
is vynil or any other type of wrap better? like if u wrap ur whole ass car a different colour wont that help out this issue but also help out preserving the original paint ?
@ChillyWillyJr
@ChillyWillyJr 4 ай бұрын
I've had PPF (and ceramic) on my Audi S5 SB for years. It still looks beautiful and turns heads. If the PPF layer is an example of what the permanent damage could have been to the paint, it's money well spent. In my opinion, this is a nit picking video. The average person that gets PPF could care less about about a few things. Gas prices. Bug smudges that they have to literally dig into just to find and complain about. And the price of getting a good detail. The PPF prevented 99.9% of potential permanent damage. And you're complaining about the 0.1%? Nit picking PPF bug smudges and critiquing someone else's work? Not educational in my opinion.
@rns2222
@rns2222 2 ай бұрын
Recently discovered your channel. Great content. Subscribed.
@scottc78
@scottc78 2 ай бұрын
I bought my Nardo Gray'18 Audi RS3 with Xpel Stealth PPF already installed on the whole car. Cool look. It doesn't have the same issues with bugs leaving stains like clear PPF. Makes cleaning super easy. But when there's any slight damage to the PPF there's nothing you can do besides replace it. I like it, But I didn't have to pay the $5k+ for the install.
@RoguePainter
@RoguePainter 5 ай бұрын
I get what your saying but for me the PPF has 100% done its job. its taken the damage and protected his paint. when he wants to sell it just pull off the PPF and his paint will 100% be in better condition than if he didn't have the PPF
@pituq129
@pituq129 3 ай бұрын
Do you recommended ceramic coating rims ?
@lemmuhj
@lemmuhj 6 ай бұрын
I have a 2023 Sierra AT 4 and i plan on keeping it forever..to me, i could care less if the ppf is absolutely perfect on the edges...i just want it to protect against chips from rocks...the bug issue is worrisome because it seems that it could actually look worse over say, 3 yrs than if it didnt have it..i need that somewhat rock protection though
@Smithy67
@Smithy67 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Reminds me of my terrible efforts covering my kids school books ......
@nicholas_a.baxter-herold
@nicholas_a.baxter-herold 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I didn’t realize all the bad things about getting PPF. I thought about getting PPF on my cars but after watching your video I’ve decided not to spend the money on it. Thank you!
@Meltdown900cc
@Meltdown900cc 2 ай бұрын
I traded in a red BMW that was not PPF and I lost a lot of money cause of the rock chips expose the white primer underneath . Since then -I had my last three cars PPF and no rock chips or bug marks.
@attisthecat
@attisthecat 5 ай бұрын
My previous Tesla had PPF from day 1, for 3 years. PPF still looked fine to me. But of course does not increase value of car at all. When i sold it, nobody cared i saved the paid from a couple rock chips. So $2,000 for .... some peace of mind. All that said I am still getting PPF on my new Tesla Y. The difference this time is I bought a kit, and pre-cut pieces from TESBROS. Doing myself keeps cost down, and helps me justify the cost benefit. I think i will always have bumper, and rocker panels covered. Especially if I am successful in putting this stuff on myself.
@DeltaCharlie27
@DeltaCharlie27 4 ай бұрын
let us know how it goes. i’ve done some ppf on bikes and small parts with decent luck. large curvy parts are i think much more difficult.
@agottschalk10
@agottschalk10 3 ай бұрын
What would you recommend for this scenario: I am getting a new Model Y in black, and want to make it Satin/Matte Black. Do I do xpel stealth PPF ($4,300) or a satin black vinyl wrap ($4,000). would the vinyl do better with bugs, and rock chips --would the thinner vinyl not have as noticable indents? appreciate any insight you have. I am mostly wanting the color to change to satin/matte and like the little added protection from rocks chipping paint. Maybe even eliminate the need for mudflaps?
@BMWSEXFIFTYDROP
@BMWSEXFIFTYDROP 3 ай бұрын
I did a full ppf with ceramic coating on a 2021 911 Carrera week #1 after taking delivery. Best investment I’ve ever made. Choose the right installer. That means everything. Don’t cheat yourself. I chose Xplel and the 5 year ceramic. I opted for the glossy clear opposed to the matte finish. Personally I feel like the matte finish is so common these days, especially on the black Tesla model Y. I literally see them everywhere. If you want to look like everyone else, go ahead. As far as bird droppings and bugs, you have to use a quick detailing spray and remove them soon as you see them. That’s the key. Final thought, go with the ppf, you won’t have the swirls and the film is self repairing. My car is 3 years in and still looks fantastic. The PPF was worth every penny.
@autowerkesexclusive
@autowerkesexclusive 2 ай бұрын
PPf and vinyl are two completely different animals. Vinyl is 3.5-4 mils thick whereas ppf is typically 8. Top vinyls are warrantied for 4-5 years and ppf is typically warrantied 8-10. The upside is full vinyl wraps are quite a bit less expensive. Although vinyl will help reduce damage from sand and grit, it will not protect against anything much bigger. On a model Y we typically do the full front and full rear doors. The rear doors flare out and are very susceptible to damage from grit thrown up by the front tires. Film is expensive, but still cheaper than a good paint job.
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 2 ай бұрын
I mfg both cast vinyl and ppf. Urethane is WAY tougher than vinyl, even at the same thickness. Personally, I'd never waste my money on vinyl. If I wanted a printed or color changing wrap, I'd do it with urethane, not cast vinyl.
@georgevavoulis4758
@georgevavoulis4758 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insight and telling us the truth about PPF
@ser9656
@ser9656 Ай бұрын
Definitely true about rock chips on front bumper. Several have gotten through to the paint below on my TeslaM3. Impossible to repair. My next purchase of Model Y I have no plan to get PPF for that and other reasons.
@jesurunsounds
@jesurunsounds 5 ай бұрын
what does paint correction mean at the end of the video? i have a new 24 truck what should I do? ceramic coat it?
@ragweedmakesmesneeze
@ragweedmakesmesneeze 4 ай бұрын
Paint correction is a process where they use a polishing machine to take off a thin layer of the car's clear coat leaving a smooth, swirl and scratch-free surface again. Deeper scratches that get down past the clear coat levels cannot be "corrected" in this manner. A lot of people think that a new car's paint will be perfect, but that's not always the case. A good shop that does paint correction and PPF installation will typically do a paint correction even on a new car before putting on the PPF. Remember, even if the paint was perfect the second it left the factory, it has to travel on the open road to the dealership, dealers will typically wash the car and they don't hire expert detailers to do their washes, if you know what I mean. So even a "brand new" car can come with scratches and swirls. It all depends on how much you care about your car's finish being "perfect." I was quoted, from Chicago Auto Pros (a well known/respected shop) $800 for a paint correction and another $800 for ceramic coating recently. Ceramic coating will NOT protect from stone chips at all.
@victorpirsoul3979
@victorpirsoul3979 3 ай бұрын
I had certain parts of my car vinyl wrapped. Similar to the PPF, it’s not impervious to bugs or rock chips. I’ve also ceramic coated the vehicle and that doesn’t just allow dirt to rinse off the vehicle. In my humble opinion, it’s an industry that’s out to make money and there are a lot of misnomers and false advertising. Yes, a coat of Carnauba won’t last as long as ceramic, graphene, or even some polymer sealants. But, in my humble opinion, you’re going to have to keep applying toppers to your ceramic coating so you can go with wax and probably be just fine as long as you hand wash regularly and avoid automatic car washes. Great video!!
@Near2Future
@Near2Future 2 ай бұрын
I use halo v2 for my wrap, decals ppf ect. It's a flexable ceramic coating for your ppf ect. It's great honestly!
@B14CK_H4WK
@B14CK_H4WK 2 ай бұрын
I've never had issues of bug stains on my PPF, I have the 3M film on the entire car though maybe it's an xpel issue?
@simon84
@simon84 20 күн бұрын
Super helpful, thx
@tonyhussaindc
@tonyhussaindc 4 ай бұрын
I am old school and have the old fashioned black canvas / vinyl bra on my cars. Very hard to find one for new cars.
@Aaron_Voltz
@Aaron_Voltz Ай бұрын
I have to say, my PPF i ordered from Ford during the build of my 22' Maverick has held up great! And it was only $330 ... though I was a little disappointed to find out that it's only the first 3rd of the fenders and hood. But the installation was professionally done and all bugs and "would be" stone chips are non-existent. It now has 23,920 miles.
@Ch0000Re
@Ch0000Re 21 күн бұрын
Great video, was on the fence about ppf and your POV really help! Decided not to get it, not worth all the hassle like you said
@mikez6683
@mikez6683 3 ай бұрын
Colorado is rough when it comes to rock chips. The best way I have found to protect my car from rock chips in CO is stay way back from trucks on 25 and 70.
@georgealex19
@georgealex19 2 ай бұрын
I’ve passed on getting this fitted due to my concern of them scratching the shyt out off my paint with the cutters….
@thomasbihn
@thomasbihn 2 ай бұрын
My five year old Model 3 is happy it's had PPF on it. So much so that I'm getting my new Model Y protected. It looks great where the PPF was installed and I regret not having it installed in front of the rear wheels where the paint is ruined. It costs $20,000 or more to repaint a car. That's 10 applications of PPF
@stephenbrader5785
@stephenbrader5785 2 ай бұрын
What do you think of Expel Trac wrap I use when taking long road trips and put on then take off so far no issues I do have ceramic coating on my Model 3 Lp 2021
@OutofSpecDetailing
@OutofSpecDetailing 2 ай бұрын
Love the idea!
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