The Ultimate Domino Head To Head Comparison !

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6 ай бұрын

Sedge answers all of BigD's questions about the differences between the DF500 and The DF 700 Dominos.
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@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 7 күн бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to present this comparison, and for relieving the intimidation factor for the 700. Very helpful video.

@sedgetool 7 күн бұрын

Glad to help !!!

@slhasebroock 6 ай бұрын

Excellent session guys! Thank you!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@pctatc66 6 ай бұрын

Great timing! I just picked up a 700 from recon to go along with my 500. Still need to get a couple domino/tenon kits for the 700 but my wallet needs to recover a bit before I do. Very informational video. Thanks Guys!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Right on!

@Jacob_Greene 6 ай бұрын

Excellent video as always. Have the 500. Will be purchasing the 700 shortly.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Wicked cool !!!!

@brianmosse 6 ай бұрын

I learned plenty on this one lads cheers.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Thank you Brother !!!!!!!

@EvanDunville 6 ай бұрын

Great video! I learned a new new things about the DF 500 have!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@barriowoodworks 6 ай бұрын

Excellent informative video. Another 💎 Sedge.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@AaronGeller 6 ай бұрын

Tempted to get it even though I don’t have the need… yet 😂 I definitely learned the use cases the XL would be advantageous and the added benefits such as the depth stops for plunging. Thanks Sedge!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Aaron for all your support !!!

@Mike--K 6 ай бұрын

Great comparison. I have both machines and the DF700 was my first Festool purchase years ago.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Right on!

@JonDunnmusician 6 ай бұрын

Me too- my first Festool: 700

@kb6dxn 6 ай бұрын

I have both, I used the 700 making my first door out of solid walnut. I find I use the 500 10 to 1 for other projects. But, after using the Domino it's my go to machine rather than spend a lot of time making solid mortise and tenon joints.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Good points !!!

@workinhard23 6 ай бұрын

Been over thinking this decision lol thanks for doing this video!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@ericmarcadal7898 6 ай бұрын

toujours très intéressant de vous voir expliquer et avec beaucoup d'humour, merci

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Merci Beaucoup !!!

@jefflemay66 6 ай бұрын

Brilliant video gentlemen!! I was using my DF 500 a few days ago, LOVING the precision and the system (used it in conjunction with the KV connectors and the LR-32) and I was inspired to make a t-shirt that says "...I would rather be plunging my Domino ". ( I don't know how to make t-shirts, but know people who do). 😊

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@warrensmith2902 6 ай бұрын

Great information, but I'm bummed. Santa did not bring me a DF500 for Christmas this year (mostly cabinets). Looking forward to my Birthday, or a project for my wife here I need it. The husband carpenter rule: We will do no project, unless it requires a new tool 🤣🤣🙃

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Love it...I always took my spouse furniture shopping to acquire new tools for the shop....many many years ago .... just a hint Warren !!

@warrensmith2902 6 ай бұрын

@@sedgetool Don't have to, she comes into my office with pictures and URL's for me to look at. 🤣

@kellychurchill808 3 ай бұрын

Sedge, I have really loved your domino videos. They have helped me use them with confidence and I reach for them more often for joinery. I am actually thinking about how I can modify a plan to use the domino vs. other joinery techniques. One question that I have that I think would be a great video is a demonstration of glueing up the domino joints. I am still not sure if I am using enough glue or too much, do I put a little more glue into the wider mortices, etc. I also liked your trick using a block plane to shave the edges off a tenon for dry fitting. I do not have a block plane so I use a sanding block to take that nib off the edges. Anyways, keep up the great content! Love them all.

@sedgetool 3 ай бұрын

Thanks...I should do a domino glue up video !!! ....Wicked cool !!

@kellychurchill808 3 ай бұрын

@@sedgetool WICKED IDEA!!

@5280Woodworking 6 ай бұрын

Great info, appreciate the details. The half of 32 is exactly why mm or inches is an irrelevant argument. If the measurement isn’t relative I always check it with my CM Pro calculator. I’ve been know to mess up half of 15mm LOL.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info!

@garybadger325 6 ай бұрын

Sedge...Why doesn't Festool make the Domino 500 with the reference pins like with the 700? I always have to install the side stop when I need 20mm reference while you show that the 700 has pins at the 20, 37, & 50mm position. Thanks for all your videos. I really enjoy them.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Gary the earliest models of the DF500 had pins at 37mm...They changed because the pins were crushing the long points of miters , sometimes getting in the way when doing narrower stock, and also people weren't dry-fitting and they were getting glue on the pins when trying to fix mortising mistakes and the pins were seizing up so they went to the flap style , no crushing and can be locked back out of the way ...... I hope this helps ....

@garybadger325 6 ай бұрын

It looks like on the 700 you can push the pin out of the way so they should not get in the way. @@sedgetool

@striperseeker 6 ай бұрын

what do you think of the adapters that allow the smaller cutters and thus the smaller tenons with the XL? Best of both worlds?

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Glad you asked ... I have never wanted to mess with any adaptors .. the shafts of the cutters of the DF500 domino bits have a thinner shaft to combine with the torque of the Df700...

@Mike-dn4ju 6 ай бұрын

I bought the 700 thinking I’d replace the 500 and use the adapter. Long story short, kept both and the Seneca kit never left the paper.

@jagriesti95 6 ай бұрын

Westside barbell.... C-bus icon. Didn't know sedgetool was in town lifting 😂

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Westside Rules !!!

@JLLG2 6 ай бұрын

The 700 indexing levers, would they fit the 500? I realize they would probably be a premium price😊

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

nope different post and thread .... have a link in this video for the 500 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ot94ltd-1tnQqKM.html

@RonGuilbault 6 ай бұрын

Not covered, use of the standard and wide slots on the 700 as compared to the 500. Why three settings on the 500 and 2 on the 700? Great refresher. Thank you.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Good point !!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

might need to do another video .. left a few points out ...

@teac117 6 ай бұрын

I assume even with the seneca plates, one cannot do mid panel mortises on 3/4 ply?

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

You sure can ... don't use the gauge block and use the scale set to 9mm if you use 18mm ply ..or use the gauge block set to 16mm in the window and use a 1mm shim stock...need to do a video on this ..THANKS !!

@teac117 6 ай бұрын

@@sedgetool Thanks, but I meant the registration with the base that's 10mm on the DF500 against a mid panel that's clamped down. I'm having difficulty figuring out a way to do it with the DF700's 15mm.

@dirceusilvadasilva3993 6 ай бұрын

Acompanho sempre seus vídeos,sou marceneiro,mas lastimo que aqui no Brasil não temos essas máquinas.Entao eu fico só namorando essas belezuras.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

be patient....

@MattLitkeRacing 6 ай бұрын

I missed out on the interior door end user class!

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Sorry Matt .. It was one of my favorites to teach !!

@MattLitkeRacing 6 ай бұрын

@@sedgetool maybe I could get the plans from that class?

@chrisnash2154 6 ай бұрын

I’m still not clear when the 700 is NOT needed. Obviously great for doors, but what about tables and chairs? I’m guessing the size makes the difference, but I’m not sure what size.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

length of tenon

@mitchellkasdin1899 6 ай бұрын

To the commenter below: It’s technically not end grain to end grain on a mitered joint over 30 degree in the case of a scarf joint mitered or a 45 degree cut. I would still try to put a spline in if strength and integrity is important. Also different species absorb the glue at different rates. Cedar vs. Doug Fir (SPF) and also the cut of wood flat sawn or vertical grain. So I find myself having to reapply the glue 3x so it’s not a dry fitted joint. I always try to throw in at least 2 dominoes on a 2x4 material for example if I’m butting material or mitering a joint, that way as Sedge explained you get greater and added glue surface on the long grain, it makes a very strong won’t fail joint for board stretching. I cut three times and it’s still too short! I would recommend getting the mahogany (sapelle) 5x30 dominoes for any exterior work. I think the domino does well to replace a biscuit and provides strength, but the biscuit gives you a little wiggle room. I usually use the tight fitting on the ends and I go a little looser inside the material. But you can make one side on the middle loose setting as opposed to both. If you don’t own a DF-700 you can stack the dominoes to get you by in a pinch, but then you are increasing the difficulty for alignment. There’s always a standard mortise and tenon, but the DF-700 makes the joint kids play. I’ve created my own looser joint (tighter than the middle setting) by just sliding the centerline of the domino over slightly on my reference center marks on my lumber material on the df-500 and replunging, if I want to just add a skosh of play for alignment or clearance. I’m not sure if Brian mentioned this but for sheet goods primarily I would stay with the 500, and lumber and thick stock the df-700, when you want those bigger dominoes.

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

Good Points ...Thanks for responding....

@mitchellkasdin1899 6 ай бұрын

@@sedgetool you’re welcome. Enjoy your Sunday!

@bdm1000 6 ай бұрын

Great comparison! If I wasn't going to use a Domino a lot (just as a hobbyist), is there anything a Domino 500 can do that a Domino 700 & Seneca adaptor cannot? In other words, does the size of the 700 make something impossible or impractical?

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын

The DF700 to me is way too bulky to use on cabinetry .... and small pieces..... I always recommend the DF500 for the majority of work...... I have always stayed away from adaptors ....

@thehoarsewhisperer1929 6 ай бұрын

Endgrain to engrain is quite strong… put enough glue and apply enough pressure and the glue wickes into the pores on both sides creating a continuous joint… its the reason why a simple mitred butt joint is surprisingly strong

@sedgetool 6 ай бұрын