They don't need to know.

Rock and stone brother!

Is that a reference to something from movie or New Vegas?

@@danielsurvivor1372 from the game Deep Rock Galactic⛏🍻

@@danielsurvivor1372 DRG

Man those deathjaws are horrible

@@thebluemidget4909 they're like deathclaws but like way worse

.45 = 11 mm

Fr late game I just become a 10mm smg dealer, got like 9 in my inventory now

I always grab a bunch and then fully repair them before I sell them I get rich af fast

Glad that you are liking them they are fun to make.

if you like that get honest hearts dlc and get the survivalist rifle best rifle in the game I have one irl ps it is also the best dlc in the game

​@@kennethlindahl9206honest hearts is also a great place for farming 12.7mm SMGs since the White Legs carry it instead of the 45. SMG at higher levels.

I’ll buy you all the dlc content if you’d like, it’s worth experiencing and it adds more than just quests

Ulysses uses them so that tells you something

unpopular opinion ,it's the 12.7mm machine gun a bit poor or ugly ? i really prefer at that point use survivalist even if i refuse myself an top tier smg,just too ugly ,seems an nail gun bad shaped , im not one of the hater of fallout style ,it's just that single gun

You said it yourself riot shotgun is best shotgun in game. I can share my experience with hunting shotgun and big boomer. Hunting shotgun is good in hitting enemies at medium range but dps is very slow. So i wouldn't recommend this weapon on enemies who moves too fast to you( deathclaws, cazadors and etc). Also i find average hunting shotgun more accurate than unique version of it. Big boomer or average sawed off shotgun is only good at close distance. But sometimes they can't hit a target even if he's too close to you. Maybe it something with game engine i don't know. Lever action is good at beginning of the game though but it also have accuracy problems sometimes like sawed off shotgun

I've used it on all my playthroughs because it's just so powerful especially with slugs lol

@@thejojex6600 i think hunting shotgun beats it Even the single shit shotgun is OP if you have “ and stay back” perk

First half of game: my courier is ultra deadly at close to mid range with a lever action shotgun Second half of game: my courier is now somehow infinitely more deadly at nearly any range thanks to the goddamn Dinner Bell

Tip for ya if you don't feel like wasting the caps next time, run dead money at level 15, the quest that has you destroying the white legs totems has two of them that always carry an anti material.

Because you've actually played this game. I swear this guy has NO clue WTF he's talking about. Lol

A Light Shining in Darkness just outclasses it so hard when it comes to using .45 rounds. You get much better accuracy, reduced weight, faster move speed, and much better crit value. It fires and reloads so fast you're honestly not losing out on much dps.

​@@abhaybhatt4286This is the SMG tier list.

The problem with Tommy gun is that if you play on hardcore mode, .45 rounds are heavy and they aren't all that abundant.

Fair enough!

I definitely put it into S tier if I'm not playing hardcore mode. If I am playing hardcore, which i have been exclusively lately, the gun itself and the ammo just weigh so much that it's a big opportunity cost for around a hundred .45 rounds and the smg or 300 rounds of something else and two other weapons.

​@@left-2-write28 Automatic weapons in general just suck in hardcore. Though honestly, after playing JSawyer mod which reaaally reduces your capacity, I started realizing how much space I wasted on ammo I wasn't using. But it's kinda realistic in a cool way, in the sense that it's smarter to carry weapons that share ammo. Which also creates a unique meta-game of picking your loadout. You might keep an All-American but still keep your old That Gun on you.

Thanks, that one is going to take some extra time, but it should be fun to make.

Disagree. To me it’s a weird sidegrade to 9mm, does lower damage, but it has -DT built in, the ammo costs the same, but 9mm can have HP, while nail gun is stuck with 1 ammo type. I stood before the comissary in LR at lvl 2 for like twenty minutes weighting pros/cons of both, but in the end I took 4K payout and got comparable performance from 9mm, don’t think I’m going to touch nail gun again. It’s so very close tho, if it costed slightly less, making it less desirable to sell it, if nails had lower cost than 9mm, or even if you could craft more than 5 nails from 1 scrap, or it didn’t have 50 repair requirement to craft them I think nail gun could’ve been a great early game weapon.

There's a mod called DLC Weapon Integration which does exactly what it says; among other things it gives every toolbox in the game a chance to spawn the nailgun, which means it can be used in Dead Money. It fits *very* well with that DLC's survival horror aesthetic,

Some spoilers below for game features but not for quest lines. My personal experience (playing Survival mode mainly with Guns but some melee to save ammo): -You can see the ingredients to make items while at a campfire but not when you're out and about. Writing the ingredients down will let you know what to look for out in the wild. - The higher your Survival skill the more effective some of these items will be but it's not essential to rush points into the skill right away. Get to 25 in Goodsprings for the Gecko Steak, Fiery Purgative and Healing Poultice (see below) then get your primary weapon skill and speech up before putting many more points in. -If you don't mind a cheat suggestion do a google search for FONV Wasteland Survival Guide as several of those are relatively easy to get your hands on and reading them will boost your Survival skill 3 points for each book (or 4 points with the Comprehension Perk). -Doing the Honest Hearts DLC early on will give you access to a huge supply of survival crafting ingredients including several that are only found there. -Even for a melee build poisons aren't worth the trouble as you usually have killed the critters or they've killed you before the poisons have done their full damage. -Some foods are excellent. Just getting Survival to 25 to get the Gecko Steak (one gecko meat) will make the early game much easier for you. -The Healing Poultice, skill 20 (1 x Broc Flower 1 x Cave Fungus 1 x Nevada Agave Fruit and 1 x Xander Root) heals for a decent amount and restores limb damage in Survival mode. -The Fiery Purgative (1 x Jalapeno Pepper 1 x Vodka and 1 x White Horsenettle) will reduce your radiation level and cure regular animal poison (ie scorpions but not manmade datura poisons) but reduce your endurance for 10 seconds. -If you're doing a dedicated melee build and don't mind the risk of Addiction the Large Wasteland Tequila skill 40 (1 Large Whiskey Bottle, 2 Nevada Agave Fruit and 2 Purified Water) gives you a two minute boost to your Strength and Damage threshold based on your Survival skill (+2 Str and +2 DT at 10 Survival up to +9 Strength and +6 DT at 100 skill). Just be aware that, in Survival mode, it will make you dehydrated so you'll need more water. There's also a significant reduction in Intelligence (-2 at 10 Survival to -9 at 100 skill) that can affect how much experience you gain from kills though that can be prevented if you have Cass and her Whiskey Rose companion perk. Whiskey Rose also eliminates the negative effects of Addiction but you'll still be addicted. -For a melee build getting to 50 skill for Rushing Water (1 Jet and 1 Purified Water) will give you a 50% boost to melee attack speed and no risk of addiction. Put that together with a Warclub and the Superslam perk and (so long as you don't do a VATS attack) you can easily kill isolated Deathclaws. You still don't want to mess with a pack of them though;).

drugs are good

The guy at Hoover Dam sells large quantities of 10mm.

@@rottingpotatoes2483 I'm anti NCR, so I almost never buy from him

@@onlyws6810 the Great Khan armory has a lot of 10mm ammo as well

Yeah the 12.7SMG can be pretty strong in the late game, or really whenever you manage to get one.

I was going to bring this up because this makes this gun an easy s tier.... like 500 dps lol

Yep. And with Grunt, Vance's SMG is pretty damn incredible too. Easy S tier in my book as well.

Ammo scarcity isn't a thing, man. You can just buy the ammo.

The Great Khans sell a ton of 12.7mm ammo.

Tell that to my piles of 12.7mm JHP rounds laying inside my closet

It might, that is even better.

​@@ReapeeRon like it's no 3's Dart gun, but if used well, can slow death laws to a crawl to be easily picked off safely.

Yeah it is quite good.

He doesn't know that exists, because he clearly doesn't actually play this games. Lol. He put SleepyTime and The Silenced .22 SMG, and even the .45 SMG in A tier INSTEAD of S Tier. This list is awful. Lol.

Yeah it is pretty chonky.

That is fair to say, the DPS is really crazy from the Tommygun.

Yeah it is, Tommygun is more of a nickname. At least in the U.S.

oops haha ofc I wrote that late at night and now I see it was dense

It's not inspired by the Thompson. The Pulse rifle from Alien was inspired by the Thompson. The 45 SMG is just the Thompson.

@Gabriel A lot of the guns from fallout are kitbashed guns that are inspired by something; like the automatic rifle/BAR so that was my assumption. my bad though, ty for the correction

@@tarabelle7716 A lot of the weapons that you see in fallout differ a bit from their real life counterparts. Actually that's the reason for using utilitarian names instead of their real life name. But what I mean is that "inspired by" means something different. The Laser RCW is inspired by the Thompson. But the 45 SMG is just the Thompson.

grunt?

That is true, but I find that it is still pretty decent indoors.

Grunt also affects 10mm weapons, if I remember correctly (it might have been YUP's bug fixes). If not, that's a baffling design choice considering US soldiers in the Fallout universe carried 10mm pistols, not 9mm ones, before switching to laser weapons.

@@Gabriel-ip6me Extremely doubtful, the perk effect literally says "25% more damage with 9mm and .45 Auto pistols and SMGs, service rifles, Assault and Marksman carbines, light machine guns, frag grenades, grenade rifles and launchers, and combat knives." Yes in the lore 10mm was the standard issue sidearm of the war but it wasn't a bug that Grunt didn't include it. If it said "variety of hand guns and submachineguns" maybe, but they were pretty specific about the 9mm and .45 cal. A perceived bug and an actual bug are different. 10mm on grunt is a perceived bug because it was a military hand gun. That Gun not being on "the professional" despite the fact it is a hand gun but also the GRA 5.56 revolver is on the professional list, that is a bug.

​@@BaeBunni So, I checked the wiki and it does refer only to 9mm and 45 Auto. It's odd because I distinctly remember the 10mm being included in that list, but it might have been the result of a mod. Still, my point remains. That perk is meta. Because soldiers in the US army, within the Fallout universe, weren't actually using just about any of the weapons listed at the time of the bombs. If it was consistent it would cover 10mm and lasers.

Thank you!

.45 smg with .45 super and grunt shreds anything in the game, plus I feel like a marine in the pacific

Yeah they are great for that!

Grunt and cowboy don't effect dlc weapons

​@@redoctober2k593 grunt is a DLC perk 😆

@@redoctober2k593 The 45 auto smg is stated in the perk description. Grunt and the 45 auto smg are from the same dlc.

Don't forget the "Handloader" perk for .45 Super. Does it wreck the gun faster? Yes, but having repair kits and/or the "Jury Rigging" perk can negate that. Add the compensator, drum mag, .45 Super and the "Grunt" perk and I can wreck the deathclaws in The Divide.

​@@henrikhans467fr my favorite full auto weapon in the game

That's in the Energy Rifles Tier List.

@@ReapeeRon ah I see

Trigger discipline makes them a bit more accurate. Same with shotguns. There's downsides, but if you plan accordingly you'll probably like the results.

It has to be a GRA 12.7mm SMG to put the sight on it. So you will have to buy one from someone that says (GRA) 12.7mm SMG

Gotcha. I was going to grab that but I already had a mint one in inventory so I decided to just grab the attachments 🤦🏼‍♂️ I appreciate these videos. I've only ever played fps PvP games and decided to give new Vegas a go for my first RPG style game and it's a lot to unpack. Your videos are helping me a lot. Thank you

No problem and I hope you have a lot of fun with the game!@@rywynn13

That is true, but if you start out the game at level 50 with double the perks it is pretty crazy no matter what you want to take.

If you start the game at level 50, it doesn't matter what gun you use, you're going to be OP the whole time.

It's quite good.

Yeah the tommygun in that game is pretty underwhelming.

Vance's is really cool, and one of my favorite SMGs.

In the absence of assault rifles they're the main auto weapons really, it's the opposite of Fallout 3 where there were only 2 smgs and 5 assault rifles

lmao i say the same thing whenever is see the pistol.

Maybe it's .50 AE since the 12.7 pistol exists.

Tommy gun with grunt outperform 12.7mm smg by a longshot. The key point being you, your personal gaming experience and the actual stats that factors in the weapon's evaluation.

The 22 is also silenced

@@ReapeeRon Ah forgot about that one. Probably because i never use it, since sleepytime is such an S-tier alternative.

The 12.7 can also get a silencer as a mod I believe.

@@PhoenicopterusR Base game has a silencer (silent), and GR has a suppressor (quiet).

@@PhoenicopterusR i will not acknowledge the existence of that disgusting mutated oversized shrek P90.