we now have an updated supercut version of this video, which combines our critique of Motorsport into one giant video posted here! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qK5mdZyAstnWaXk.htmlsi=TEJ_cmLlhdX519I6

My biggest complaint is that the roads keep getting wider, longer, and more obstacles become breakable. You almost never have to lift off the throttle in anything under A class anymore because it's all designed to be easy in X class

It's not until I put more time into Horizon 5, that I realised how much I enjoyed Horizon 4.

Impressive work was put into this, I hope it gets enough reach to make the next horizon games better. We need to go back to the FH2 Era. Now that PGG has serious competition, it might happen again.

That franchise changed my life. Literally. It Influenced my music taste, my love for cars, gave me amazing memories and, believe or not, was a main factor in my relationship, that almost has 5 years by now. Unfortunately, I think horizon 5 is a lot more about a generic annual forza horizon than a solid game. I loved Horizon 4, but the last one that really impressed me was Horizon 3.

You can tell that PGG wasn't really trying anymore just by the menu screen. In all of the previous Horizon games menu screen, they would feature some of the new mechanics that was introduced in the respective game (FH2 introduced new weather systems, FH3 introduced bodykits and different biomes, FH4 introduced the season) but FH5 they just show you the empty landscape of Mexico instead. One other small thing about the menu screen is that the main cover car would usually be the first car you would see, in 5 it's the last screen before it loops back.

Just a disclaimer to everyone who wants to leave a comment, please do not harass any people mentioned in this video, if you have a differing opinion to someone featured, please discuss it in a civil manner with respect to the other person, thank you.

The main thing Forza needs is a actual story. With that, other improvements will naturally come with it

FH2 was a surreal experience. The atmosphere, the unforgiving roads, the career. Its insane. I'm 25 now and I still think about that game constantly

Thank you 2 to let me and others be part of the video. I really wish as a community we get ourselves heard and make Forza Horizon return to it's former glory. Speaking of, I encourage everyone to post and participate in the Suggestions Hub. It will be better if us, as community, get together and let everyone at Forza what we want for the future.

As a Brazilian, shoutout to CaptainKoosh. I know exactly how it is to have your culture misrepresented. And yes, those spainglish lines were PAINFUL, jesus.

I remember feeling like I was the only person who had a problem with this game at launch. I'd get constantly harassed in KZfaq comment sections when I'd point out any issues with the game. I will never understand how most of playerbase was completely fine with what we got. It will always bother me though that THIS is the first Forza game for a new generation of Xbox. Definitely not a good start compared to FM5 and FH2.

Masterfully written and brilliantly made! Y’all did an amazing job on this critique. Also, 10 hours in the eliminator, holy crap! I hope serp’s therapist is ready for that.

Naming your character drake is the perfect analogy for the series Has been here for 10 years, the early stuff was pretty good, by now it’s just throwing stuff at us that we don’t know who cares about but is stupidly successful regardless

I've only just restarted an old FH3 save yesterday, and I already agree with your opening points. Sure, FH3 ventured into the first "every one wins, you're the best! Go you!" territory, and it arguably undoes some of FH2's greatness. But it's host is actually bearable (and often humorous) ahem FH4/5!! And it's Australian biomes are stunning, interesting, unique and varied all within the one map. In short, it's been a real joy going back to FH3 after hundreds of hours in FH5. FH3 is simply a stunning and well designed game. Great video!!

Been following you since forza horizon 4 review, this video feels like a culmination of years of love for racing games!

2,000+ hours in FH5 and still enjoying it every day. Weekly races with the club with set tunes and set tracks keeps it fun.

Just finished the video and wow. Everyone involved had done this brilliantly, fantastic writing with great points. On a different note, I hope PGG just releases something genuinely great and complete at launch again.

Just as I about to end my youtube binge watch, this 2 hour masterpiece dropped 😵‍💫. Haven't watched it yet but I'm sure it's gonna be one hell of a video.

This will be the 6 best hours of this month. Why 6? Because i will watch the video now for 2 hours and i am sure i will come back to it multiple times. I love Horizon. No series has playtime anywhere close to Horizon for me. But i am not happy with the current state and i love to see a constuctive criticism. Thank you for that.

I honestly didn't expect your "return" to racing game reviews, hopefully the reception to this review is a lot chiller than the previous ones. Horizon 5 after hours of playing still feels like a DLC to 4

My problem with the cars in 4 and 5 is that new cars are always linked to battle pass events So if you miss one good luck finding it again This in my opinion is the worst aspect that absolutely detracted me from the game

I personally loved the story in Horizon 1. I liked having a goal and trying to achieve it. As far as customization, horizon 5 takes the cake. The creative hub with some really dope tracks is hard to beat. But having antagonists to beat and a story to follow was really entertaining to me.

A big issue that I see on the map is that the city is like historical only, we don't have a big modern city that we have in Mexico in real life... It is too empty as well, should have more car's in traffic. Great review.

I really enjoyed the grind you would have to enjoy in part Forza Horizons. In FH3 I remember having to leave the festival sites and go out and do a race to get money and upgrade my engine. Now in FH5, all I have to do is leave my house, do a wheelspin, and boom I now have 200k more dollars, and I didn’t even have to drive! Progression in older games was so much better..

Forza is currently becoming less and less a game and more of a building platform for the community, in the same way as BeamNG or Asetto Corsa. Great physics, but an empty game

I love the near-constant background footage of players ramming/crashing constantly. Really shows the priority and intent of the average player.

i've been intending to make a very long and very detailed analysis of fh5 of my own, but between you and whitelight my idea is pretty much obsolete. great job, very succinct.

We still never got that Honda Del Sol and Mitsubishi FTO 😢

Glad to see you closed the "FH5" arc so to say. Going from previous videos I wanted to see what you would think of the game finally "finished" with all it's DLC. A video this long must have taken forever to make. But I'm sure many are glad you two took the time to make this and address the games issues. Too many 10/10s has made fans and PGG blind to just what made these games special to begin with. It really breaks my heart too, as a Mexican, it sucks when I see videos say "Mexico is boring" and talk about how the old games brought their settings to life, and seeing this game be the most mid of the series is a huge bummer. Mexico deserves better Thanks for reading the comment. Looking forward to the next video!

Just to summ this up: If FH5 where the RB19 in F1, you were promised Max Verstappen and we got Sergio Perez (just to stay in Mexican style). FM is on par with Mazespin with it's last version.

Been here for like 2 years, and still excited for every video i see from you, great job!

how can you say this game is bad when at 50:53 you can clearly see how fh5 accepted CCPFanboy into the hall of fame truly a masterpiece of a game

The devs paid IGN most likely to give a 10/10.

For FH6, I want to see part of the map focus on highways and interchanges. Imagine having to maintain speed around a cloverleaf or jockey for position in between exits 25 and 26 before diving off the freeway and back onto surface streets, or a challenge where you have to navigate the maze of city streets and highway exits to get to a specific point on the map.

I loved watching this becasue your critiques are amazing. 2 hours of your content is always welcomed with your structure and narration. Keep it up man!

Thank you making this critique video constructive and fair as possible! Despite all of the complaints and shortcomings mentioned in the video, I am at least grateful that FH5 right now is bringing new contents outside of new cars the community has been begging on and the new devs bringing them to the table and listening to them. And hopefully, this is a sign of hope that we get to see this trend of positives once the new Horizon game releases.

I live in Canada. I have snow on the road like 6 months of the year. I like snow. I was rather upset there was now more snow because of Mexico. I went back to 4.

Glad you "returned" to the racing game community. You were one of my favorite commentators

Took me a few days to watch the entire video! Absolutely fantastic production,Horizon really needs to get it together.

the pick your car thing was so funny to me because, when i finished the intro and saw all 3 in my garage, i thought the game glitched

The biggest problem with FH5's campaign is that the initial drive is literally the maximum, the pinnacle of emotions you can get out of this game. That initial drive could be without any problem a final showcase event in that game

I've been waiting so long for this lol Amazing work on the videos as always

Very good video!!! I remember when I played the game for the first time and expected a better Horizon 3 while getting an even more soulless, uninspired piece of media more akin to another generation of Microsoft Office than a game to be enjoyed. And then I checked the reviews and.... Yep, 10/10! Beautiful game with no risk, innovation, danger, creativity... Thanks to you both for speaking the truth about Horizon

I'm going to say this, I feel my love for FH slipping because of the lack of care PGG took towards racing and car enthusiasts. But when you mentioned the expansion 2, my soul ache. How and why did they think more of the main dirt map is what people wanted?

My biggest complaint was being forced to drive the Mustang Mach E several times in the missions. I despise the very concept of that cars existence with a burning passion, and yet was forced to drive it in multiple story championships... And the entire time i had to listen to very obviously payed for Mach-E advertisements hyping it like its the next coming of christ. Once the game inevitably threw that car in my face for free, i spent the next hour with damage on throwing it off every cliff i could. Then quite playing for months. For me, being forced to drive that insult to car culture was as bad as the terrible AI or a McLaren Senna being an excellent rally car.

An amazing video! 100% agree One thing I'd add is that the content model they imposed on themselves basically kills any chance for a large or mid scale addition to the map. There simply isn't any logical reason to develop anything meaningful if it's going to be in the game for only a month or worse a week like the pathfinder challanges or those small obstacle courses in season ehen they added Rivian. It's painful to see this "evolving" world kill any chance for actual evolution of the game map and content. It's also extremely saddening to see Motorsport 8, instead of learning from the mistakes of FH live service, lean into it even harder.

Wow dude, you deserve everything for these video, I hope playground games is making again an impressive map for us to enjoy along our favorite cars

Thank you for this excellent summary. I can fully agree with everything you have mentioned. However, I skipped the multiplayer chapter because I don't use this mode.

Within the first week of FH5 coming out, I theorized it was rushed out to keep the Forza brand active while the new Forza Motorsport was in development hell (and I didn't even start to dislike it until a month in.) I still believe that.

Only now, years later, do i realise i loved the FH4 Lego expansion. I guess it also helps that I've gotten into Lego since

I'll be honest, your voice is calming to hear along with a banger video!

Honestly when it came to DLC, i have a Eliminator-esque theory that you proposed. Since in the previous games, the first DLC was always (i think) a "realistic" DLC and the second was more fun, i think their realistic DLC was planned to be big but got either cabcelled or shelved. That would explain the delay, why the expansion came out around the time the second expanison usually comes out in prevous games and, why the second expansion felt so half-assed

I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree more profusely about the Eliminator section. That, for the most part, was 4 minutes of torture to my ears. Agreed with some minor details, like the large text blocking the screen, and the Ferrari/Camaro, but the rest was an absolute lie. I don't know how to put this nicely, but you need to learn how to play this game. Nothing is "random" or "behind you" if you actually understand the basics. Please read @StriderZYT's comment from a few hours prior to mine - and his videos are also excellent. I honestly can't believe you've basically sold this game-mode to thousands of people as a P.O.S. when 95% of what you've said is pure nonsense. I haven't watched the rest of this video but will certainly be returning to see it soon. For now, thanks for painting a humongous-ly false picture of this very good mode.

Wow, really well done video, mate! Hopefully the devs will see this and take notes for the next Horizon game.

I have two main issues with Horizon 5: 1) Way too many cars way too quickly. I rolled some of the top cars in the game in the first couple of days. Maybe I was one of the lucky ones, but it took a lot of wind out the sails for me. 2) Races seem like an afterthought. I like all the stories - I think that was a home run. And then they kept adding more to give you more to do. But there was never anything pushing you to do the races or run the championships besides grinding for credits.

I will say this new Eventlab makes this version my favorite racing game ever. I love the twisty roads, and I make all kinds of these. It is epic.

💥 Ultraviolet, you've just unleashed an absolute demolition derby of a critique with this 2-hour epic takedown of Forza Horizon 5! 🚗💨 👏 Kudos to you for fearlessly diving into the game's flaws and shortcomings, and laying them all bare for the world to see. 🙌 Sometimes, it takes a passionate critic to point out where even the most beloved franchises fall short. 🌄 Mexico might be stunning, but your critique has me questioning if FH5's beauty is just skin deep. Your analysis of the game's graphics, despite the initial dazzle, reveals cracks in the facade that I hadn't noticed before. 🤔 🚘 The gameplay breakdown exposed the game's handling issues, lackluster car roster, and underwhelming customization options. It's high time someone said it like it is! 📢 😂 And let's not forget the humor! Your witty commentary kept me engaged throughout this 2-hour journey of criticism. 🤣 You've managed to make even the game's faults entertaining! 👍 I've smashed that like button and subscribed for more honest critiques like this. It's refreshing to see a content creator willing to call out a game, even if it's part of a beloved series. Keep up the fantastic work, Ultraviolet, and let's hope this critique reaches the right ears at the FH5 development studio! 🏁💥💯

thank you so much for inspiring me to reinstall FH3 !! i didn't realize how much i missed that game

I know many people won’t even mention this since it’s not directly related to the video but I really appreciate the background music from some persona 5 tracks to the Xenoblade 2 blade awaking theme it really helps add to the atmosphere of the essay

I really wanted to enjoy the game, especially after spending £80 on it and even playing it the minute it released but I just can't. I spent about 250 hours in the first couple of months and I have barely played it since. I've played every horizon game and put thousands of hours into each except fh5 which just feels too boring and lonely to play compared to it's predecessors. It's honestly insulting how bad the game is after spending £80 on it and it literally makes me feel bad for not playing because of the money I spent on it. I really hope they can bring back the original horizon formula for fh6 and make it a genuinely good game.

i have over 600 hrs on horizon 5 and tbh when you got back to horizon 4 and 3 it makes you really appreciate the technical and ease of life features in 5. im good enough at the game to not have to play with assists or a racing line. the togue is one of the best roads in forza since fujimi, the handling model is the best in its genre to the point where i can feel exactly what my suspension, tires, and downforce work in harmony with each other. sure the content might be stale but as a lover of everything automotive and speaking from a strictly driving point of view horizon 5 is the best in the franchise imo.

40:03 Pahaha well done!! couldnt have said it better. Overall goated video my dude!

Was watching this in the background while playing fh5. Right after I got both cars from this week's playlist I got off to focus on the vid because it was more interesting.

I really miss this racing game content Ultra Violet miss you already

i pray that Playground Games takes this critique into consideration when the next game rolls around but unfortunately unless the sales begin to drop they have no incentive to do so.

Amazing video so far and I am watching all of it, but I popped off when Acceleracer's Storm Realm was used as comparison to the Hot Wheels DLC. As a fan, it's always nice to hear someone mention it.

Thanks for a great critique to this game, the points made were on point with my feelings for it. I love Forza, it's what's made my childhood. But now, it seems not as exciting as the previous games, where every experience was a fresh breath, and enjoyable to do whatever. It feels more stagnant now, not as exciting to pick up. I'll still play the game, but it doesn't capture the same vibe as the previous games.

I got to be honest, I started the series with FH5 (then FH4) and as a new player, the game is great, with a few annoying stuff sprinkled left and right. So the game is great, if you never played anything but NFS before.

I completely disagree with the Eliminator, i have over 2500 hours in the FH5 Eliminator and this never gets boring. Direction of the h2h race and the final race is very easy to predict if you know how it works. I'm playing this all the day and i will never stop, this is the only good mode in this game. Yeah the cars are poorly leveled but this only making this more fun. Funco is amazing car when you know how to drive it, and Camaro and P1 are one of the best too if you are not crashing trees. First learn how to play and then say something 😅

"Wow, Ultraviolet, you've truly outdone yourself with this epic 2-hour video essay on Forza Horizon 5! 🚗💨 Your in-depth analysis and attention to detail had me hooked from start to finish. It's like you took us on a virtual road trip through the game, and I enjoyed every twist and turn of the journey. The way you discussed the game's graphics, gameplay mechanics, and the breathtaking world of FH5 was not only informative but also incredibly entertaining. You've left no stone unturned, and I now have a newfound appreciation for the game's development. I can tell you poured your heart and soul into this video, and it absolutely paid off. Kudos to your dedication and passion for gaming! Can't wait to hit the Horizon Festival and experience everything you've talked about. Keep up the fantastic work! 🏁🎮🌟"

The irony behind the Hotwheels expansion is that even before it got released, people called it much better than Unleashed. A copied expansion, which carries a lot of the horrible issues of the base game, apparently is better than a whole game that, while flawed, has obviously much more love than an expansion. I know this is more of a community issue rather than a game issue, but still...

I was honestly excited for this game. I played fh 1 and 2 on my xbox and 3 and 4 on PC. Number 5 was probably the biggest disappointment ive ever felt towards a videogame. And I agree with you on the map design, Everything just feels dull and pointless and makes me feel alone in an empty world. I actually bought fh 4 and 5 specifically to make videos on it for my channel. but because the game was so shit plus I constantly had my liveries ban from the game, I just gave up all together and started a completely new channel about other games. Forza Horizon 5 biggest waist of my life ive ever had. Financially and mentally

I don't know if this was mentioned or not, but a complaint I have with FH 5 is how the Forzathon Arcade is set up. In FH 4 you only had one spawn every couple of hours. In FH 5 there is usually anywhere 2 to 4 on every map when they spawn. It's hard to get that Accolade when I'm usually by myself or maybe 1 other player. In FH4 I've never had less than 3(or sometimes 8) in the same group. And I like how FH4 the game would make it more of a spectacle.

I think as a community, we players don't know what we want. We praise the graphics when the trailer launches, and then criticize the game for only having good graphics. Like why? For me personally, I want a return of quick race in the classic racing games, where you just build a car and race offline as much as you like, without having to earn the money and buy all upgrades from scratch. I'm not a competitive person, and just like to do time trials in a relaxed way.

The one thing i truly dislike about modern Horizon is the souless "everything is awesome" attitude the game drowns you with.

i can assure that nearly everyone who played fh1 and fh2 (including myself) dislikes the "story" of fh5 and how boring the map is, aswell as only play it for infection and king

Good video, I hadn't thought before about how trying sell Game Pass vs selling Individual copies would change target audience the developers are trying to hit - but I think you are on to something with that assessment. I've had a kind of weird trajectory with the Forza Horizon series, playing FH2 first, then playing the First, then not playing for several years, then picking up FH5, then recently giving FH4 a shot. I'm actually impressed at the level of activity I see in FH4 - which says a lot about how much people still like it. I find myself liking the FH4 map more because it feels more like a cohesive land area, but FH5 map feels like a bunch of environment type zones joined together with a big field - kind of like Hyrule Field in Ocarina of Time. I also like how the different seasons affect what type of driving strategies I need to use and how I need to configure my cars. I do like Drift Zones in 5 better, because in 4, especially on dirt drift tracks, the pathing isn't always clear, and in winter it gets significantly worse - Shepherd's Crook immediately comes to mind. I absolutely love Forzathon Live and it is really sad how it was replaced by Horizon Arcade which almost no one does, and most of the time I'm doing alone - and is far too easy. Also Forzathon points are way too easy to get in FH5 vs FH4. I agree with what others have said that the idea of starting the game as a nobody with a below average car has a lot more appeal than being the "Super Star Driver" - it gives you something to work towards. Lastly, I'm very surprised nobody has mentioned Papa Fernando and his Vocho yet. 🤣

the restaurant analogy haha... ^^ forza horizon 5 races are more like going to war but the enemy has no weapons lol

If there are two big issues i have regarding horizon 5 and some other games, it's too friendly and lacks motivation. The catering to a bigger audience makes the game feel like they say and do anything to make you happy. Super and hypercars should honestly be something you unlock after reaching at least the second half of "story" mode if not later. Having a goal to beat a rival or a grand race between you and the best to end the story would make the story more motivating to finish. Having certain in game characters with different personalities like the person you hate and want to win against, a funny down to earth character etc... you get my point. This feels like a game that only gives you positives and no struggle at all. There are other things but these two things are the first that comes to mind.

40:00 Ummm yea dude, I've seen Dora The Explorer and that's 100% how people in Mexico talk everyday. You're just uncultured I guess.

I like the part about the festival playlist. It's so goddamn infuriating that legitimately awesome cars (Aventador SVJ, 992 GT3, RS7) are only available if you play at the perfect moment. When the game released and I noticed them doing this to even more extremes than FH4 I started to dislike the game more and more. Back in FH4 it was less bad and I was also younger without a life so I could complete the playlist every week. A month after release I dropped the game because it was clear what kind of 'progression' the game had in mind and I didn't touch it for 1,5 years. When the final DLC dropped I redownloaded the game to play both DLCs and had quite some fun with the Rally DLC, I was almost shocked that the really awesome cars were locked behind artificial scarcity. And I refused to refresh the Auction House for hours to even get a chance at buying the car. So after two weeks I uninstalled again It's a shame given that FM3, FH1, FM4, FH3 and FH4 provided such great experiences only to see it being stomped in the ground in order to induce FOMO in people who just want to enjoy an experience instead of grinding. And why does the game want you to grind when it gives you millions of credits after a couple hours of play?

Weather could've returned from FH4. Maybe have storms, massive rain storms, etc. be way more common during some seasons. So like 1 week deserts would be filled with sand storms, another week could have a bunch of rain storms in the jungle, etc.

Mate this video is a masterpiece. Not one second was boring. As a player with over 1000 hours in this game(nearly 600hrs just in liveries, tuning & photography), I can resonate with all the points you and the other members made. Imo, the map itself is not bad, sure the middle emptiness could've been fixed with adding the entire rally expansion to the base map, but the main problem for me is the lack of utilisation of the map. A map this huge ground easily boast double the amount of tracks present in game. I have a lot of say about this game, maybe I'll hop in your discord and let my thoughts flow sometime

Here is our savior . The channel that truly understands what is good and whats bad . Props to the writes and your editing ❤ Its jusr that i am genuinely pissed about this abomination of an crap work thaz is horizons 5 Also sep4 made an great video too about thr issues with the official Forza team members cheating in races themselfs .

Oh shiiit. This is gonna be loaded. Just the playtime, the 2 min intro and the channels pedigree is giving me chills, despite never owning or planning to get the game. Only recently got a taste of Horizon 4 as of any Forza game... and my feelings are mixed to the max. Concluded, there is no great Forza on PC and after a strong start they are increasingly falling off from the godlike potential they possess. But I want to see and support a truly great Forza game. Let's witness what the expert with real experience is got to say.

I'd love to see a Horizon game where you start with a heap of shit of a car and working your way up from there. It'd be hours before you even see a sports car. Remove the drivetrain swaps, return the manufacturer engine swaps and make them interesting (such as a Ford Windsor V8 in a Capri). The reduced number of engine swaps also means that modifying the engine bay may be more viable.

W thumbnail, literally the reason why clicked on this vid it’s gorgeous.

Isle of Man would be a great location for a map. Would be the perfect opportunity to introduce bikes to the game too!

As a veteran Eliminator player with thousands of games played and nearly 700 wins, I'd like to address some of the Eliminator points made in the video. 20:35 while 10 hours of Eliminator experience may seem like a lot, it is in fact not nearly enough to actually learn how the finer points in the game work. With more experience, many of the critiques listed in the video would be both understood and answered. 20:50 imo the game is 75% skill and 25% luck. The more you play, the more you understand, the better you will be at the game. What may seem like random or lucky coincidences are actually not so to the experienced player. 21:00 purple level car drops are rare and hard to find. Yes are are some available at the game start, but the game isn't handing them out like candy. It took me many hundreds of games played before I ever found my first level 10 car drop. But, it is entirely possible to beat a few opponents and then upgrade to a high level car as well. 21:06 the race direction isn't as random as it appears and is actually quite easy to accurately predict. Every Arena has a certain number of race finish locations; as the circle shrinks, the amount of possible locations decrease as well. Remember, the map is always shrinking towards the Final Arena where the Final Showdown will take place, so you will notice that the race directions will increasingly go in that direction. 21:18 just because a car has a higher level doesn't automatically mean it's a better car than a lower level car. For example, the Audi RS6 is quite capable of beating any level 10 car in the right hands. It was a level 5 car in FH4 and it should have been at least that in FH5 as well. With experience you will learn which cars to choose and which ones to avoid. 21:41 the "mile long lead" comes from preparing for the Final Showdown beforehand. You need to pull up the main map (make sure to bind it to a key you can quickly access; this is vital) and determing the most likely direction of the final race, then try to exit the final zone at a high rate of speed right as the countdown timer hits 3 seconds or less. In your case, the final zone was to the far east. Since there is water farther east and not much room north or south, a long Final Showdown race must by necessity go west (which is exactly what happened). 22:35 yes the Brocky and RS200 are good, but so are the other level 10 cars. It all depends on the type of terrain you're on. The AMG, with its 250 mph/400 kph top speed, will absolutely destroy any other car on the road, and especially in a highway race. Meanwhile, the Funco has the fastest acceleration, a top speed around 350 kph, and is a beast offroad (once you know how to control it). I've won with every Eliminator car from the level 1 Beetle straight through every level 10 car and can tell you that map knowledge and race setup is what will win races, not necessarily the fact that your opponent is driving a higher level car. 22:57 I agree that the Eliminator needs to be updated; at the very least it would be great to get a changing roster of cars. I wrote a Forza article titled "Improve the Eliminator: here's how" where I list 25+ suggestions of how the developers could improve this game mode. Maybe someday we'll see some of these changes, but right now it seems more priority is given to things like a longer nighttime cycle than to any Eliminator improvements. All in all, the Eliminator is a fantastic game mode. I've been fortunate to meet many great players and enjoy interacting with them on my channel or other social platforms. The open world freedom, game to game unpredictability, and all the funny crazy moments is why I spend 90% of my Forza gameplay time in the Eliminator. Not much in Forza actually excites me, or is as fun as this. My channel is based around the Eliminator, and many questions (how to predict car drops/how to predict race direction/where are the best spawn locations) are answered on the channel. If you ever have any questions about the Eliminator, feel free to let me know and I'll be glad to help 😀

Thank you for not excessively vocal frying in your voice over, thank you so much, my ears are finally at peace

I cant lie, after 2 weeks, i was missing and desiring to play FH4, just based on the map/ country. Still love this Franchise and series.

I'm about to tick a few people off, but I think that Horizon 5 may be one of, possibly the, worst racing games of all time primarily for one reason, it's history and failure to live up to it. The series went from a racing game with vibrant settings to a bland puke-colored landscape; from a, albeit less than cinema quality, story to a repulsive abomination; from getting respect via championships to already having said respect from the get-go; from playing as a regular racer to a cringe Mary Sue. Don't even get me started on the Festival Playlist, dear Lord almighty save us all. No sane person enjoys this mindless grind. No one wants to play a game that allegedly has their favorite cars just for them to learn that they may never get them. No one takes offense to the Confederate flag on the General Lee. No one wants to have those lane-protector thingys that bowling alleys have on them 24/7. In short, stop the cring Playground. Stop pretending that you are for everyone and act like you are for no one. Just go back to your roots, being a fun, engaging racing game. Excellent in-depth video Ultra.

2 hours 17 minutes of yet again the same stuff most likely (I aint watchin allat)

41:03 - When I picked up horizon 5 (well after launch, like a few months ago) I was happy to have options at first... Then I realized that I had no reason to care, no journey, and I already had some of the fastest cars around (or could easily get them)... Doesn't help that I had some of the DLC packs, or deluxe edition, or whatever. I fell in love with horizon on 2/3 on someone else's xbox that I played for an entire weekend straight. 5 was my first time owning a forza game, and I was hyped, but it felt gutted and more of a chore.

This video is really good and most of the points I had never even realized until you and everyone else had pointed. Btw how come you came back to racing games?

Shid Video, me no like

"My god, what has journalism come to." As someone who was part of GamerGate since back in 2013 before it was even named that, that line just about got the longest bitter laugh out of me of anything in the past 5 or so years.

My biggest complaint is the cars should be updated and your collection should transfer with your account to the next Horizon game.. you are so right about the re- used old cars!!! Wake up Developer's and make a game with real new content and cars!!!😢😮

Very excited to watch a 2hrs critique video of a game i dont play and probably never will