nah he loses to posin scaling at one point its gonna out damage him id think once he gets to the third stage again or he loses to bee

@@azurefoxbh9280 It depends, 11 energy, if he had 3 cleansing rags, that's 30 poison removed per turn + 10 healing per vamp (1 energy to block), it's going to take a long time to lose to poison that way.

@@Zilican if the base poison inflicted goes above your max hp (in this case, 56) then there’s nothing you can do about it, you just die at the start of your turn before you can remove any of it

@@Zilican well he did lose to snake soooo

Yeah.. Text appears on the screen to correct him.

+ first turn energy that he wouldn't get with the staff, which is only second turn on

Also the staff caps at 7, so it's +1 in combination

Plus there isn't a location constraint on it, while the staff can only create mana in its column. I think the windmill could only be bad if you are able to generate more mana over the course of a fight, that way you can generate more than one of those energy tokens off of one manastone. But then of course you will also then need another item to generate said mana... Basically the windmill is strictly better except in only a few very specific scenarios, in which case the potential -1 energy would probably not even matter anyways.

@@newtonthenewt1400 You also can't really generate more tokens with regenerating Mana, because you eventually run out of spaces around the staff. Unless you use 3 energy to reorganize the tokens away from the staff.

@@doomse150 Thought about exactly that too but didn't want to type an essay lol

there's runs that'll surpass this definitely, once he realizes the raw power of shield hero and the new reworked cleavers or archery

@@Tuenai1 cleaver shields will always be the most busted thing to ever grace this game

this isn't even close to the wildest shit you can pull

Though, the nice part is if he screwed up but knew he could win the auto save wouldn't have been overwritten and he could try again, but that didn't happen.

ooh yeah My bet is on if he gets queen bee in the crypt, if it does over 30 poison (which I assume it will be but idk I haven't got that far) then with the extreme tankiness of the enemies he won't be able to heal/remove poison in time. The bats in deep caves would also be very dangerous, but if he gets past both of those he's most likely dead to the shadows. my final prediction is bee, but if he gets rooster instead, then bats

welcome to the Aliensrock family :D

aliens rock likes playing a variety of games, and so he explains them as he learns them himself, which I agree makes a wonderful viewer experience

Jesus, what was your build

@@methatis3013 It evolved a lot as it went, but essentially it was 2 Hercule Pavise surrounded by a buckler, a mirror shield, and the shield that buffs weapon damage, a bunch of cleavers, two cleansing rags, and some healing buffs. For relics, I had the stopwatch, shield spirit, the energy relic, and the cleansing candle, oh, and the coral. I also had 3 Crimson energy accessories, so with the energy relic, I had 7 energy per round. Plus, I got really lucky finding a lot of forges, so my shields added a bunch of haste per use, and my cleavers added a bunch of rage per use. I basically generated a ton of block; a ton of damage; cleansed poison, rage, and regen; healed a bit; and because of the Crimson energy accessories, I had some room in my inventory to drop in small or medium curses with just a minor energy loss.

He even has the relic that would negate the -1 attack penalty.

Oh thats gonna make him scale even more

Its called shield spirit its super cool and would definitely make this build godlike

+4 to each of the three connected shields per shield use

The only problem I can forsee here is he would then be forced to attack 4 times every time he blocks. Sounds great unless it's the first turn and the enemy has spikes. Because of vampirism that means the spikes will get triggered 8 times as soon as he blocks once. Almost certainly a death sentence.

he needs hp scaling and poison removal but this run has been insane

@Jorge I also forget to mention that he can remove poison by attacking.

@@z3_gaming526 yeah, but curses and poison scale a lot

Im a complex man, I see juggernaut, forget what it means.

what does this comment even mean

@@anonymall it means he's a simple man, when he sees juggernaut, he clicks.

@@TRCruzzr 4-X-X Dart Monkey.

The hardest part of that run is getting that legendary item early enough to start stacking damage

If summoned minions count there could easily be a infinite DMG output from that item

It's really difficult to force yourself into a run. You need a base and then you can start ssaying yes or no to stuff to help build your build, but it's still difficult.

​@@jacksonfunke8230 As a fan of roguelikes, I am more than fully aware of this. It's just that he had a really *blerch* reaction to the blade the last time he got it, saying that it seemed like a huge pain in the ass. Which might mean that even if he got it early on, he might pass it up for the same reason, and that would be a real darn shame

@@Azrael178 they don't. Every item that gives items on kill specify that it doesnt work on summons

*longer than 40 minutes* As there will likely be another video, since he didnt say where he died.

Plus a bunch of the run was cut out. Basically an entire floor except one fight, and a bunch of the fights we did see got cut when it was repetitive

Northern Lion has done a few streams, and they've been honored in games before. Maybe Tyler will join the ranks of honored popularizers soon!

The hercule shield isn't great in starter defense, but yeah, he could. -4 Block wouldn't hurt him.

It's equally space efficient as a 3-mana stone and an empty space, but requires less clicking

@@CalebTerryRED 3 stone doesn't give energy on turn 1

@@id01_01 Ah, I see. You're right, the windmill is better

On the other side of the world, I'm waking up 45 minutes earlier just to watch Tyler :D

Actually considering the wand needs Both a mana stone and an empty space, the windmill is just as space efficient as the wand

The biggest problem would be an enemy with spikes. On the first turn when he blocks he gets hit by 12 times the spikes and instantly die. 12 times bc 4 shields trigger 4 attacks and he has 2 times vampirism, so that would be Instasuicide...

@@certainlynotmalo1.0.06 I think it would only be six hits per block. If I remember right, it’s only adjacent weapons that are triggered, so three attacks. And, the vampirism should stack to be one “hit” for two points vampirism - three more triggers for six. I haven’t played for a bit, but I don’t remember any enemies with starting spike besides the ?gladiator? which starts with seven I believe? Since the shields have to be triggered first, and the fox rapier would buff the second and third before they are activated, he would take 58, but have healed 22-24 depending on order of operations. So, yeah not quite insta-dead… at least until the enemy attacks. But, candle or cleansing bomb would be work for that enemy, which is usually fairly uncommon.

@@certainlynotmalo1.0.06 3 shields not 4. shield spirit only uses adjacent weapons and only 3 of them are next to the weapon. also just drop the vampirism

@@jasonlatta2000 You're right i think. That halves the damage. But if he uses his weapon or the shields again he propably dies anyway. Not sure about that, i'm too lazy to do the calculations right now...And Candle would be awesome or he just reorganizes his backpack that this doesn't happen. He could just let his spikes kill the enemy, but damn that takes a while😅 He gets killed either by spikes, poison or curses. Or maybe we are wrong and something totally unexpected happens and kills him(don't know what that could be or it wouldn't be unexpected🤔)

its essentially just king cleaver as a shield, and if you get multiple you can have a huge chain of shields

Get 2 mini shields to free up two more spaces for a water flask would help.

@@ionstorm66 it would fuck him over. his shield scaling requires shields to be next to the rapier, mini shields wouldnt be next to it

thats why you either put rage on one weapon or get the clock. the clock fully negates shield spirit and 1 rage per attack does it almost completely

yeah it just fails completely in this game if you dont have other damage and healing due to curses and snakes that literally cant die from spikes

it isn't. you need shield spirit now