Hi Martin!! What an aweseome comment to wake up too! Thanks so much for your support, it makes a huge difference to us! - hopefully you like the next video, we’re a bit nervous putting it out as it a about the van, we’re hoping it’s received ok as it’s traditional steam bending boatbuilding skills 🤞

No problem guys, you deserve it! We live what your going!! 👌⛵️🤙 And thanks!! We’re stoked to be making a start!!

Cheers guys!

Cheers Paul! That mean a lot to us! 😃

Hey man, great to hear from you! Thanks for the compliment! 🤙⛵️

Yeah! Well done recognising it, she’s one of only 3. Glad you find it interesting, thanks for commenting 👍

Hey! Thank you so much! Kind works and great support! Thanks!!

Hey! Cheers for that! Yeah, we know all about those dammed whales! They are a real trouble!

Hey, thanks for that! Super to hear and also inspiring for us! Thanks!

Hey guys! Shouldn’t you be underwater? Divers man. What’s wrong with you all. Nutters. Thanks for the support! Here’s hoping we do it justice!! 🤙⛵️

P.s we should make time for a catch up at some point!

@@SailHub Too right. We’re actually on passage right now so I’m filling my midnight watch with your content 🤩 So creative - you guys are awesome 🔥

@RedSeas 😂 cheers! Hope you don’t get nightmares! Fair winds guys!!

Hey thanks! We can’t wait too!! 👍

Hey Steven, thanks mate! That’s much appreciated!

Hey guys! Great to hear from you! Thanks!! Hope to catch up again in the water at some point! 👍👌⛵️

For sure we will be sharing it and thanks! The journey has started with the van but we will try to keep the videos as boat orientated as we can because let’s face it.. we’re all boat people here! Thanks so much for your kind words!!

@SailHub Yes!!! I recently bought the french Renault cousin of your german Porche a "Patago 39". It's less fancy but very similar also 1 of 3 that I know off. The plan is to sail it this summer back to Belgium for a major electrical refit this winter. I'd love to also gradually upgrade the interior over time. Your content and the knowledge you share will be very beneficial!

@XArthieX that sounds amazing.. just did some Googling, very different boats here but man, she looks ready to take on a war at sea. I dare say she will stand up to more than ours, looks like a really really good sea going vessel right there! Sounds like a great plan too, be sure to let me know if we can help with anything, may even see you at some point, we will be driving up and down a bit and our ferry drops us in Amsterdam.

@@XArthieX btw, that’s no Renault more like a Hummer!

What a pair of projects, Looking forward to seeing them both progress good luck, 🍷🍷🍷

Thanks Michael, much appreciated 👍

Cheers Barry! We’re excited too!

Hey Pete! Thanks man, yeah… we’re in the same page mate! Probably because I used to live in the same town as you! What a place! Thanks for the support! Cheers, Chris 🙌

Cool, it’s a hell of a job, gonna be epic! Did you go and look at it?

Cool, great to hear. Thanks! Btw spoil guns are a brilliant invention!

Cheers Robert! Thanks for letting us know, great to have you join us for the journey!

Wahey! What a combo! Sounds like it’s exciting times for us all! 👍⛵️🚐

Hey! Thanks for that, that’s great to hear!! 👍

Cheers man, super stoked! Can’t wait to get you and your grubby mits on her too!

Cool! Thanks for speaking up! It’s so good to hear this 👍

Hi Jonas! Thanks for that! Stoked your joining the journey! 👍⛵️

Hey George, Thanks for that! Rally nice of you and much appreciated. Btw we would love to see your boat and what you did, what is she.

Hey Michael, thanks mate!!

Cheers Robert!

Cheers guys! Much appreciated 👍😀

Nuno! Cheers fella, means a lot. Thanks man

Nice! Thanks, great to have you on board 👍

Nice! Thanks👍

Nice! I’m so glad you think so, we were worried it would have a negative impact.

Cheers! We were super lucky! Not sure what’s happening inside yet… first things first! Make the keel and get her home!

Hey Don, thanks for letting us know! I hope you enjoy both of the builds and the rest of our content keeps you entertained too!!

For sure, they are noisy as hell! We have a plan though, and we are testing it on the van, it’s the cork you see sprayed inside. It’s very common in metal boats and seems to work really well! Sounds like an epic days fishing too by the way!

Cheers! And thanks for commenting!

Thanks!! Likewise! Sails safe!!

Ah thanks for joining! Yeah, there plenty more to come, can’t wait to get on with the van… we have so much planned for it but really I just want to get onto the boat! Great to get back on the tools again. -Chris

Hey! Thanks fella! Much appreciated. Man.. I have a strip planked canoe to finish building that you have just reminded me of. Gotta love a kayak mine, your all nuts! Hope our videos keep you entertained,

Wow? Cheers! But I’m curious as to what gets the wow now!

For sure!

Hey!! So kind, thanks you!!!!!👍⛵️❤️

Hey Pat, cheers for that! We should defo keep an eye on each other, sounds like we will have a lot we can learn together!

Ah thanks! Yeah, it took us years to find something that was right for us at the right price too. I’m sure something will come up for you, keep your eyes peeled and do t rush into something you don’t reply want! As for learning from us… goodness, don’t put the pressure on! But on. Serious note, just ask if you think we can help, we’re on Insta too if you want on the job content.

Good point that. She’s made of Alustar so we should be grand. 👍

No way! That’s superb👍 thanks for joining us and the support too!

Wahey! Cheers Mr Mole!

Thank you so much! I love the believe in yourselves, believe me.. we needed to hear that! Thanks!

Hey peter, thanks for commenting! Yeah, your right there! They build fab hulls… as for the build, sadly we’re out on our own with this one!

Thanks! We think so too. A lot to take on and we’re super excited albeit a tad nervous here and there too…

@@SailHub Aluminum is a clear trend among leading youtubers. You bring something different within this trend. We look forward to learning from your woodworking skills, as well as your extensive knowledge of all the boating equipment. Van life is the cherry on the cake!

@@cyrilvermeil thanks for that Cyril. I hope we can deliver! I think having been in the industry quite a while we have dealt with a lot and seen many views over the years. I don’t want say what’s best for who, just lay it on a plate for people to make their own descisions. There are reasons for all designs, materials and equipment and we intend to point out giver best usage along our journey. I guess what I’m saying is we want to remain factual as opposed to opinionated. As for the woodwork, we will be doing all sorts of it in the future but the boat fit our probably won’t be what be expect! 😉…. What I know is that it will be a good test of my skills I’m sure!

Hi, how nice to hear this, such compliments! I really hope we can live up to this! Sounds like quite the adventure you have been on! Koopman’s are just wonderful boats! Super lucky there chap! As for our plan, we don’t really do simple, it’s just not in the genes… but, we’ve struggled to enjoy a lot of sailing for to working on things so this time we’re gonna make sure we get the sailing and traveling in. The quality can wait sometimes I guess!

Thanks John, great to have you on board, the vans coming on well. We will have a couple of videos on that soon. Not sure what’s happening in the boat but I know whatever it is I want to test my skills a bit! The vans a great place for me to get inspired again!

Brilliant thank you. Might need your moral support through some of it. 🤣 Cant wait to get back out to Switzerland to get stuck in!!

Now that is very helpful news! We love the sailing vibe around Southampton too. Thanks!

Thanks! So are we!!

Wahey! One of the Panta Rhei crew. So cool! I would love to hear from you and find out more about your Sail. Pretty epic! I wish I could have been with you guys! 👍

Oh yeah?! Is that affordable for us?

Cheers! Oh Lordy, I hope there’s not too much tragedy! All thought it’s bound to happen 😉🤦‍♂️

@@SailHub Well... there's always a little! Here's wishing you the best of luck on your prodigious adventure.

@spikeafrican8797 for sure! Cheers Spike, much appreciated 👍

Hey, thanks! We’re really looking forward to the build. I tho k the trick is to make sure we know what we want t before we start the interior. Great to hear you think we know what we’re doing! Time will tell 😂👍⛵️

Cheers! May see you in Ireland some day! 😜

Thanks man, we’re all just faffing with boat here fella! It’s all the same and it’s important to help each other along the way so thanks for standing by us!

Hey thanks! Yeah, she’s a beauty alright! Bm43 is a belter too! Are you documenting the build!? I would love to see it!

Hi, is it worth you trying to contact the designer, Martin Menzner from BM yachts. I would have thought he could supply the CAD file for the bulb. Mind you I had a very poor experience with him, so now going with another aluminium yacht designer. All the very best wishes to you for the completion of the BM. I will look forward to each episode with the progress. M

@helmsman141 thanks for the help, yeah we tried that as our first port of call…. Several emails, messages and no answer. Sadly we’ve not heard much good regarding communication from him which is a shame as the boats have a great sailing reputation. I got all of the CAD from Gaastmeer who supply KM with the cut panels for the build - they were super helpful. Anyhow, we did some scans of the 1st German 39 and we have a CAD hero working on them for us, so far it look promising 🤞 Great to have you in the journey with us and thanks again! 👍

@@SailHub hi thanks for reply. I have tons of material to be posted but I have so many other stuff I only focus to finish the boat. I work 13-14 hours a day with two profies carpenter and paint guy. I am planing to start on posting on Instagram. I am following you, happy to share my experiences

@@SailHub I have 3D model of the torpedo for the kell actual weight would be 2300kg, maybe bit heavy for your project but if you need happy to send it.

Hey up guys! Great to hear from you!! Cheers, we’re pretty stoked mind. Mind you, we got a lot to learn from guys like you… gotta catch up again at some point! If you ever make it home that is! Given the survival suit I saw you in I presume your thinking of crossing soon?

@@SailHub that's the plan, we want to touch off the Arctic first though

@SailingYachtZora Get in! Mate. Amazing.

Cheers James, near enough 40k mate. Doesn’t seem a bad price to me but it’s not really a full hull yet.. The ballast has been the biggest shock so far, it’s more than the average rig! I’ve not made many keels to date and the price blew my mind. We’ve had foundry prices of 40k to cast the lead! And then there’s the transport and fitting on top!

Your dodge would be perfect for the job. I’m told she should weigh 5T with the ballast on. The problem isn’t the distance, it’s four countries and the time taken for import export paperwork and finally putting it’s all on a ferry to our little island. Still, a frightening cost!

Great idea that! Wish we had thought of it 👍 We got by in the end with technology which is unusual for me! Still, it was a super cool learning process, fingers crossed it works out though! 👍

Yeah… there’s a lot to put anyone off on this one and it’s going to be a real challenge for us. We had looked at it since 2019…

That’s a really nice thing to say, Tally Ho is an epic build! As for the back story, it’s not my place. We we’re super lucky to have come across such an opportunity and the guys we bought of from was such a good chap, but we don’t want to rub salt in wounds here, let’s celebrate and do them proud, it’s way more fun! P.s thanks for joining us too, can’t wait to get the van build and get on with the first jobs!

It’s crazy right, that’s the best price we got too and then there’s in the import export faff via road through Switzerland France Germany and the UK… Godspeed indeed! 🤙⛵️

Thanks, we really like the look of the boat which is the bonus to what we expect her sailing characteristics will be! As for the van, she’s a single. The ply is all lightweight ply and the curves I laminate are all lightweight too. Still, there is a lot of weight being added thats for sure. We will be careful, thanks for the advice it all makes perfect sense! 👍

Hey! Great to hear from you, so yeah.. we’re working on a couple of videos just now. We’ve just made a cool walnut step with steam bending then we’re into curved cupboards and bulkheads, varnishing, a lift up bed and a Hallberg Rassy / Spirit yachts inspired saloon! So yeah, we will keep you posted! You can keep in touch on Instagram too if your interested in the “roadboat”there will probably be more of it on there. Cheers! 👍⛵️🚐

Hey, yeah your right… it was sold during covid and got layer up since, it’s a long story and we’re glad to be building her. As for your advice, it’s not school master like, it’s dammed sensible and we appreciate it, a lot. So, thank you for helping us 👍

@@SailHub Perhaps one option would be to take the hull to the south of France, the option with the canals was formulated. There is not enough time in Switzerland to work productively. I have the feeling that your enthusiasm, which is conveyed in the video, will make the boat sail.

That’s the best comment were ever likely to get. Literally laughed out loud. Yup, I can agree with all you say and that story. Classic! 😂👍⛵️🤷‍♂️

Yeah, the tillers an interesting thought. It’s simplicity we’re looking at and weight saving which is quite surprising. We’re not planning on staying in the arctic, it’s just a place we want to go so inside wheelhouse isn’t really required. I guess there are a number of large boats on tillers and ours isn’t all that heavy, the other thing is the twin rudders, this should massively reduce tiller efforts. I think we will run a test first, I’m not into gung ho descisions! Thanks for the support too, it’s really cool to hear your thoughts on electric, I imagine we will have a fair amount of testing to do there too! 👍

@@SailHub I just finished successfully testing my solar-electric pontoon on the water for the first time ever -- WOW did I learn a lot of things I probably should have done differently 😂 but, that's boats, I guess -- always learning something!

What?! That sound interesting for sure! Yeah! Everyday’s a school day!!

Cool! Now there’s a build to watch! Epic! We saw it years ago when KM sold it but it was out of our budget. After that I kept looking, I’ve wanted an aluminium hull for years now…. We were just about to set sail in our Najad across the Atlantic and a friend told me about this gem, I found it advertised online in German, I thought it was a scam as it was clearly the same boat I saw 2 years previous. Anyhow, we put our boat up for sale traveled to a field in the middle of nowhere and there she was. We decided if we could sell our boat we should do it. Our boat sold in 3 days!! As for the Odd life bunch, great guys! We’ve spent quite a bit of time together now, I’m really looking forward to seeing their project develop, we’re like carbon copies of each other with the van build too! 😂 Oh yeah, the transport thing, for sure although we don’t really have any friends in Switzerland… but that’s the plan, drop her in in Basel and up the canals… that’s should be comical!

Cool boats the Bruce Roberts, they are well sturdy sea vessels. This one’s a Berckemeyer design.

Excuse my ignorance, what’s a fortisco?

Hey! Thanks for the advice, yeah we’ve been googling our eyeballs out for over a year now! We needed to make the numbers work before we committed. Still, to be honest it’s still a gamble as you never know until you know!

For sure!

Cheers David, yeah we’re pretty stoked, so.. The original owner wanted to build it in northern Switzerland. So it’s ended up there. Simple! I know a lot of people do this for tax reasons and then take it down the Rhine from Basel to the Med. To be honest I’m not sure why their plans were, we took over it as an unfinished project and we didn’t feel it was right to pry.

@@SailHub Yes I can understand that for tax reasons. Good find! And good luck with the project - looking forward to tuning in! Dave.

@@davidwhitehouse6566 cheers David!

Ok, now your talking. Your on! Let’s have a chat! info@sail-hub.com Cheers!!

So what are you thinking anyway? Oh, and who said anything about a duplicate sister ship?! 😉

Hi, nice to hear from you, we’re not sure yet… a few ideas but we will need to figure it out properly closer to the time. We have a few maybe’s, I guess we just see what happens closer to the time. If all else fails I could strap a rib to it and posh the thing!😂🤦‍♂️

@@SailHub Yes indeed, it is a dilemma, an outboard would do fine for inland waterways but not so much for the ‘oggin around the U.K.

@normanboyes4983 to be honest I think an outboard will be fine for a while. I sailed a few boats with outboards, they are kinda cool in a simple way. We have so much to think about I think keeping it simple until we can figure something out properly is the way forward!

@@SailHub Absolutely. One is perfect for inland stuff but maybe two for the ‘oggin (the second could be smaller).

That’s sensible. Goodness knows where we will end up for the first part of the fit out mind.

Yeah they are tricky to come by. Boat 24 seems to be a reasonable searching platform but in Europe I know what I would do… take a drive along either the south coast of France or the north west coast. There are a a few big yards, there are tonnes of projects out there but usually the owner looses belief and they don’t bother advertising so you literally need to go and ask. I do know Meta have a couple of boats lying outside their yard thy have been there some time if your looking for an old but “new”one.

@@SailHub Thank you for your answer, and a big thanks for all the good videos you make!!

Good luck on your search and thanks!

Hey again, yeah… she’s a Berckemeyer German 39. One of 3 made but this one never got finished after leaving the KM yard. Barn find is a bit of a loose term for being found after some years of sitting in a random unoccupied place. And yeah, that’s where we viewed her, next to a barn on a farm. We will do our best to fill in the gaps over the next videos but feel feee to ask questions 👍

Thank you! We can’t wait to figure it out 😂👌

Hi Mark, A few ideas here and there. I will stick with a sloop rig though. It’s just easy for everyone. We want people to be able to come and sail with us easily. I’m also want to optimise performance by retain as much reliability as possible. We’re in talks with mast companies at present but nothing concrete yet. Bulkheads, for sure a front one, not sure about a fully enclosed rear one, probably though but it will need a hatch to access the steering.

@@SailHub ok. But I would consider a good old mast head rig. I like to be able to sheet out to 90 deg.

@@SailHub ..of course with hatches, or full sized watertight doors, as on Navy vessels

@markthomasson5077 yeah, I think for most cruisers I would do the same, it’s a great rig and great advice. This thing has a 27° spreader angle though, a gooseneck 4” off the mast step and no kicker in the plans. Clearly designed to generate enough apparent wind to not need that 90°. At the moment I’m leaning toward somewhere between a 3/4 and a 7/8 fractional. I liked our old Najad 373’s 7/8 fractional a lot.

Criekey, that’s pretty hardcore on the door front! I don’t think we need to go that far. It’s not an Amel! Mind you, I flippin’ love a proper adventure vessel. I just don’t think this is really one of them.

Hi!!!! And thanks, greeting to you too!!

That’s a story in itself but it’s not for us to tell. We would like to know more too but as you say life happens. We feel so lucky to be taking this on and how we can do the original owner proud!

Woah, there’s a compliment. Thanks! No, I just work for myself, I was trained by the Ibtc in Norfolk though. Aside from that my grandfather was a cabinet maker too so I guess I grew up with tools.

Hi Rufus, good question and wouldn’t that be great if we could find them! There were are two sister ships made with a custom mould. The keel casting company is no longer in business, I believe the moulds were concrete which I imagine means they were most likely destroyed. Anyhow, we tried to get a hold of them for 1/2 a year before we gave up!

Hey, we’re planning on keeping it simple, as the keel is only 2 tonne we can take it in a normal van… in a cradle on an angle….. 😄

@@SailHub aye…but the cost of new springs n shocks!

@markthomasson5077 for sure. A sprinter or a crafter could do the job easy enough… as for the springs… I guess that’s the beauty of hire vans! We got some quotes to have it taken for us but because it’s transiting 3 or 4 countries it’s too expensive. That’s multiple countries is the reason transporting the hull is out of budget too.

@@SailHub nice one! Is there a canal close…not many in Switzerland!

@@markthomasson5077 we will get dropped in at Basel I believe. It’s about a 2hr drive for us.

Hi! Yup, no home. Just a van and a boat, well… a van and a hull. We were lucky with the barn and we have it to use until harvest in 2 months. We’re just doing the van there and then we’re off to Switzerland to live in the van and start the boat. It’s been a hard few years since we sold the house etc but sometimes things work out, getting the use of the barn was one of them and we are unbelievably lucky there!

Hey Mark! Thanks, so are we… I think, it’s all a bit exciting and somewhat overwhelming!!

Good call on the winged keel, we won the Americas Cup with one🇦🇺

@@seawench555 You were lucky. Lol!

@@SailHub You will be fine. Nice design! Baby steps!

@@tinkeringwithmark1186 🤣😆but we still won!!

I know, that’s exactly what we’re thinking. It also saves a time of weight which is quite important for light air hydrogenerator productivity.

Thanks for letting us know about your tiller too, we hear a lot about tillers being a bad choice in 40’ but I’m not convinced, I think it will be fine. Especially with two rudders.

@@SailHub And it is much less complicated ensuring reliability. As for generating electricity I would consider solar as well. I have just 200W of solar coupled to a 500Ah lithium battery which is enough for all my electrical needs. I cook on gas though. I especially like the simplicity and the fact that it's fit and forget about solar. With a 40ft boat you should have the real estate to fit enough solar AND enough speed for hydrogenerating.

@@SailHub Tiller on a 40' is fine. And if you find yourself struggling, just fit a longer tiller. My boat was fitted with one from the yard in 1973 and when it got a bit tiresome for the previous owner, he just made a longer one. Since a fitted a Jefa drive to self steering, the tiller is in the vertical position nearly all the time. Do consider a wind vane self steering unit as well. Saves a considerable amount of electricity when underway.

@@SuperDirk1965 thanks so much for the help and advice! Yeah, I used to install for Hydrovane they are great but the problem we may have here is the boat may to too flighty. What I mean by that is it may accelerate quickly and cause a change in apparent wind and a non useful vane steering, this is why modern race boats can’t use them. We will do some testing and hopefully she’s still slow enough in acceleration to make it work! As for the tiller, I really do like simple and effective. I think we could be sold on it to be honest… thanks for helping us consolidate things further! Much appreciated

Coming up in 2 mins!

Van ding? Sounds like a cad accident. What’s all this about then?

Hey, thanks for getting involved. So she’s a hydraulic lift keel. Draft is variable anywhere from 2.5m to 1.1m. Being able to go shallow is a big, big deal to us!

Yeah I did see that you have a retractable Keel and that's pretty good but make sure to replace all your hoses and make sure they're braided three times the pressure rating go for the best hoses on hydraulic and it would be a good idea to put a surge tank on your hydraulic system because hydraulic systems can be fickle every now and then and you don't need that when it comes to your Keel. Because it's important piece of the boat stabilization. Oh yeah and you'll probably need to put new seals around the retractable system and make sure you carry backups cuz remember this thing is retracting in and out of your boat and that's where and pair on seals that's another thing that can go wrong because it's not fixed@@SailHub

@coolhand6669 thanks for the advice… you maybe didn’t realise that she’s never floated before. There are no hydraulics and we have a complete blank canvas so we’re quite excited to be figuring out the way we want to do it. Your right though, hydraulics are great… when they work. A simple system and being prepared for the failure is our objective!

Hey up, I can see your reasoning here for all of this. Although they can pretty much lol be overcome with design. I will go into all of thy later I’m sure. But of course.. the lift keel, well thy just mens more maintenance. The thing with boats is every weird design out there is still right for someone! And this boat… we were that someone. As for the water ballast, I don’t see the issue, it’s not like it’s actually part of it’s required stability, all extra which you don’t need to use if you don’t want too.

To be honest I find that’s sometimes the case, but not always. There are usually small but significantly important differences. However…. The price difference would suggest that it’s a much greater difference in the manufacturing process than it actually is. On the other side of the coin though… small changes to industrial manufacturing often costs a lot and we’re a niche market… Boat added tax right…

@@SailHub yeah Na, I've worked with the biggest boat supply chains in Australia for 40 years. In the same yard. Dealing with the same owner. All the seals plastic and stainless are exactly the same nowadays. If you ask an honest supplier they'll tell you that unless you are going top end you are buying the same product. And let's face it, it's not even worth going top end anymore as the quality between there product from even 10 years ago to today is ridiculous. If I'm seating a hatch and going to need to replace it in 5 years or reseat it again because it warps I'm paying 100s not multiple 1000s. Since the 2000s the decline has been noticeable. I would agree for the 90s and prior now they're all made in the same place and brand labeled, most manufacturers don't produce their own products anymore. But that's a cracker of a find. Did you say how much it was? At least you know it won't delaminate in its first 6 months like 70% of new plastic boats do nowadays. It is a stainless hull yeah? Imagine trying to build it today itd be out of reach of most people.

@@SailHub not sure if reply stayed, I have pissed off they YT gods and sporadically my posts get removed. Been building repairing boats for 40 years dealing with same supplier, the largest in Australia. He's the one that informed me back in early 2000s. Before that I'd agree but even from 10yrs ago the products have declined. It was a great post dam it. Fantastic find though, is it aluminium or stainless? Excellent and exciting!

Hey up chap, I rekon you’ve got some good points there, mind you a lot changed in the last few years. There is a lot of crap out there and that’s all crap. The good stuff is low turnover and usually made in house, the rest is well… let’s say imported from somewhere and not often very good. Stainless wise.. 316L will be the choice of any self respecting brand. Unless it’s Duplex where required, aside from that RV stuff is 304. Small differences that many don’t know about, usually not even the salesmen, just the fabricators themselves but it makes a massive durability difference. As for hatches warping, again a choice of quality really, we pays for what we get. I personally have never had to refit a quality unit for warping, but that’s just my experience. As for the hull she’s Alustar aluminium. A rarity indeed. Cheers for your input too, really cool to hear your experiences 👌👍

Oh man, the YT gods! Gotta keep them on your side mate 🤦‍♂️😂 I think it turned up again, thanks again fella!