The Uncomfortable Truth About the Bagster Comfort Seat

The Uncomfortable Truth About the Bagster Comfort Seat | 2022 Yamaha MT09 Seat Upgrade

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I have a Love-Hate Relationship with my Bagster Comfort Seat. On one hand, it was a very comfortable upgrade to my 2022 Yamaha MT09 SP. On the other hand, I had to have it repaired by a local Auto Upholstery Shop after only two rides.
Thanks to the wonderful customer service at Chromeburner, I didn't have a completely awful experience with my Bagster Motorcycle Seat.
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@maldridge7630 Жыл бұрын

Long story short: Baxter is comfortable compared to original, provides less moving space, developed a tear after only 150 miles of use, Baxter refused to warranty it; don’t buy it from them they have poor quality & poor customer service. (video unreasonable length may trigger an ADHD episode) 🙄

@KrakensGarageandAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

This is super unfortunate and I'm glad to see you post this as it helps others decide on or pass on this product. I would send a link of this video to the seat mfg and share your displeasure with their product. What concerns me is that I feel like the seat cover material has been compromised in some way. To have 3 splits is crazy. I hope more don't pop up. Share this on all social media platforms tagging them to see if they engage. Good luck and I hope it's fixed.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I completely agree - I feel like I'm sitting on a ticking time bomb that could split again at any moment. I don't know if it was a bad batch of material or some other material defect but I have no confidence in the product. It is a shame because I really do like the looks and comfort of the seat. Its the durability that has me so disappointed.

@MRTPR Жыл бұрын

I have the after market Saddlemen seat for my GSX S 1000. Although better than stock I still needed to modify it. Not an inexpensive experience. The workmanship was excellent, I must say. Over all very happy in the end. I almost purchased a Bagster product but they were very expensive compared to the Saddlemen. Sorry to hear that you had an issue Mate. Chrome Burner sound amazing ! The repair man was also amazing. Take Care 😎

@ar2043 Жыл бұрын

That’s a damn shame. When I got my 2016 09, I had to search all over for the official Yamaha comfort saddle. I wound up finding a dealer that had one in a different state and bought it immediately because the Yamaha website said “temporarily out of stock“. And I can tell you this… The OEM Yamaha comfort saddle is phenomenal. I knew within the first 3 miles of riding on it the first time that it was going to be a winner. And it is a winner. It’s always the first item that sells out on the website every year. It is an absolute night and day difference from the stock saddle. Build quality is phenomenal and the comfort level is phenomenal. And as a bonus I love the way it looks. I really hope you can get one because it’s the best 09 seat I never ridden on.

@WaltInPA Жыл бұрын

I can't believe how long the Yamaha Comfort Saddle has been out of stock. I keep hearing great things about it but I just haven't been able to get my hands on one.

@Mr1ordinaryaveragegu Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your review. I bought a Bagster ready luxe seat for my Tracer GT and it's been great for the past 2+ years. I was just getting ready to buy one for my new MT09SP because I saw that Chromeburner recently got them back in stock. I think I'll hold off until Spring and see what Sargent has to offer.

@ChopperFett 2 жыл бұрын

Dang Walt that was quite the ordeal man. But good news is you found a good upholstery shop for the future. I was going to go Bagster on the Z but didn’t like that it pushed me forward a bit. Spent a lil extra and went Corbin and so far no issues. Glad you got this resolved and kudos to chromeburner for covering the repair. In my opinion those would be two companies I’d deal with again!

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I've never sat on a Corbin but I do like the way they look and I've heard good things about them. Hopefully my problem is resolved and not something that is going to keep popping up. Both ChromeBurner and FC Mobile Restorations were great to work with 👍

@maldridge7630 Жыл бұрын

Ordeal? The length of the video or the tear in the seat 🤔

@diggerdave.6587 Жыл бұрын

Hey Walt, Hello from the U.K. I have literally just bought a 2018 Yamaha tracer 900 GT. I rode it back from the dealership which was 140 miles and found the stock seat acceptable but not fantastic. I was thinking about a Bagster seat even before I collected the bike, I will think very carefully now after watching your video before parting with £275.99 of your English pounds. Ride safe buddy

@808Motorrad 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Was also looking at a comfort seat for my SP. Looks like I'll be waiting for the Yamaha one for sure now.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard good things about Corbin and Mustang seats but they are a lot more expensive than the Yamaha Comfort Saddle.

@Skipshift 2 жыл бұрын

That's a rough experience Walt. Thanks for telling your experience, maybe that will get then to up their customer service and/or material grade. Having that many tears in a short time is pretty unnerving.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I could see them being hesitant to repair / replace the seat as a warranty issue if it was a couple of months old but to be blown-off after literally two rides (with the first tear appearing in photos I took on the second ride) that was shocking.

@Skipshift 2 жыл бұрын

@@WaltInPA exactly! I worry what the material will do after some weather cycles and more time under load

@troy9er 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a 2021 CAN AM Spyder in November of last year. Thinking about a Corbin front/rear saddle with a back rest. Had one on my 1997 Valkyrie, loved it. They are costly seats but worth the price! 😉 subbing, good luck with your seat and repairs! 👍🏻 the Corbin is quite costly but based on my past experience with them, I’m sold on their comfort and quality and (not to diss you) they are made in America! ❤️

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard good things about Corbin and after the problems I've had, I wish I would have gone that route instead. Thanks for watching, commenting, and subscribing 👍

@troy9er 2 жыл бұрын

I loved my Corbin. It provided comfort all day long. Thought it was hard at 1st. but it gave superior support. Never put the factory seat back on. As a matter of fact, I saw the factory seat yesterday in my garage. We could ride all day long without any saddle sore. No back ache. This one will be $1500.00 with the backrest! Ouch! However it’s worth the price. The backrest gos in the front seat or the back seat for the passenger when the wife is along for the ride. Which happens often. Haven’t ordered it yet, but will soon. The factory seat on both bikes was soft but absolutely no support. 😡 my pleasure on the sub! Keep your head on a swivel. 😉 I wish I would have saved the backrest when I sold the bike. Oh well, live and learn.

@yayoi1 9 ай бұрын

I was a bit wary after seeing this vid but ended up pulling the trigger on one from Motostorm in Italy. I asked them to check it before shipping it to me. Not sure if they did, but it was flawless when I checked it. It eliminated the annoying forward slope, which is great, but the foam is very firm. Will see how it goes when I take it for a long ride.

@mike202224 Жыл бұрын

Hahaha starts by saying “to make a long story short” then proceeds to tell a 20 minute long story. A short story would have been “hey guys I won’t buy this seat again because it ripped after two rides. Hahaha. Just giving you a hard time Walt. Great video. I was looking at this seat. Appreciate the story. Now I will look elsewhere.

@WaltInPA Жыл бұрын

I haven't had any additional splits pop up since I had the seat fixed but I don't think I'd trust ordering another one. Its a shame because the seat is comfortable. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@Tom-sp2xs Жыл бұрын

Indeed a bit “longwinded” 😂

@MattMiss79 10 ай бұрын

What a story. Thanks for sharing. That Baxter seat does look good though. Have you had any feedback from a pillion rider?

@malcadorthesigillite2541 Жыл бұрын

I bought the same seat for my 2018 mt09 in fluo yellow. The colored stiching is fading bad. Have had no tears on the seat and used it for 2 years. I recently went back to the stock seat bc the bagster seat really does lock you in one place. I like to move back in the seat.

@BikesBeardsAndBrews 2 жыл бұрын

I never even heard of them until this video, whelp see ya Bagster!

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

When I looked them up most of what I saw was seats for Japanese Bikes (Honda, Kawasaki, and Honda mostly).

@garythornhill4635 2 жыл бұрын

Have had two Sargents and one Corbin. The Sargents for Kawasaki ZRXs are very comfortable, light, and well shaped - very satisfied. The Corbin saddle is very firm and poorly shaped, not to mention very heavy, I ended up using my stock Versys seat to make my own seat because the Corbin was only good for short rides. My homemade seat is much more comfortable than the Corbin! There are some good KZfaq sites that can help you substantially improve the comfort of the stock seat. I would have bought a Sargent seat for the Versys, but it wasn’t available at the time, so went with the Corbin, regretfully.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity I checked to see if a Sargent is available for the MT-09 - unfortunately it doesn't look like they make one for the 2021+ (at least not yet anyway). I still have my Stock Seat - I might have to experiment with it 👍

@lold6130 Жыл бұрын

I got a vinyl Corbin seat for my Versys 1000 & within a year it had split in 2 places along the bottom edge. Was so disappointed as it was very expensive. I've since purchased a Sargent seat & it's good.

@corynolan4955 2 жыл бұрын

I got a comfort seat for 21 my 09 in August of last year yes big difference you sit I bit higher too.got mine off eBay of a seller in NJ took about a month to get it in Canada but worth the wait.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

How did it work out with the price ? I found one on eBay but the seller wanted crazy money for it ($1,000).

@yayoi1 11 ай бұрын

How’s it holding up now?

@jackmavro3671 Жыл бұрын

I'm looking to buy the same one. But I truely think it's poor quality vinyl. And being in Australia. I'm afraid to buy it. It's a lot of money. And getting it fixed will be expensive. Great video. Thanks so much

@hansd3295 11 ай бұрын

I drove this holiday 4200km with it, through 6 countries in Europe, I don't recognize anything in this whole story. The saddle is fantastic. Without this saddle, I could never have driven that much in a short time.

@BikesBeardsAndBrews 2 жыл бұрын

Stables are usually a good sign of cheaper build, the high end guys tend to use rivets a who lot more now a days.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

That's good to know - I just assumed stainless steel staples were the norm.

@EvLSpectre 2 жыл бұрын

That's unfortunate for the seat. I'm wanting one now for my 2nd first gen 09. More than likely Corbin or Sargent. And you are right about that profit margin, generally, it's around 10-20 percent depending on what it is. Sometimes it's less, for some, it's more. I think the highest I seen was about 35 for some specific part from either Ducati or BMW

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I assumed margins were on the low end but I didn't realize they were between 10-20%. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

@EvLSpectre 2 жыл бұрын

@@WaltInPA That's how it was for me working counter before I left. It's the little stuff that everyone needs has the bigger margin

@lectorj 2 жыл бұрын

Good to know. Gotta hold companies accountable for faulty products and make sure nobody else buys them.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I felt bad putting out a negative product review but I wouldn't have ordered one if I knew some had problems and the company was unwilling to fix it. Hopefully others find it useful. Thanks for watching and commenting 👍

@minekaiju77 Жыл бұрын

@@WaltInPA don’t feel bad. You’re helping the community. Remember, it’s just business it ain’t personal.

@Robocoppat Жыл бұрын

Did you let Chromeburner know about the other rips? I ordered a hi vis helmet from them and considering it's located in New Zealand, I received it less than a week. I have nothing but great praise for them. Regarding your BAGSTER seat, is it any wider than stock? Reason why I ask is cause I cannot sit flat footed on my 2021 MT-07. And I'm brand new to riding. Great video. Consider me a subscriber 👍👍.

@WaltInPA Жыл бұрын

Hi Patrick, Yes, I let Chromeburner know what was going on and they were the silver lining in this situation. They reimbursed me to have a local shop repair my seat. The width of the Bagster seat is about the same as the stock seat. It is thicker though, which raises the seat height slightly. Thanks for the support 👍

@stuartmartin9207 2 жыл бұрын

I share you agony, literally! My stock seat kills my butt on a 150mile trip. Was considering a change and thanks for the heads up!

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

This year my rides have been stretching out to ~150 miles or so and the stock seat was painful. I tried an AirHawk and it helped a lot but the Comfort Seat made a much bigger difference difference in ride comfort.

@ar2043 Жыл бұрын

I’m telling you, if you can, search the country and find a Yamaha accessories comfort saddle. They are so comfortable and it’s a night and day difference from the Stock seat. Definitely try to go with the Yamaha OEM comfort saddle.

@maldridge7630 Жыл бұрын

@@ar2043 but Yamaha deliberately equipped it with a wooden board uncomfortable seat to make you pay more money for the intended seat; this is treachery!

@KODEGREY 2 жыл бұрын

Dang man!! That's ridiculous!! I mean it is a good looking seat, but something went wrong somewhere. Either inferior material or their covering process is flawed. I hope that's the last of the problems you have with it. Good video man, sucks why you had to make it, but good video!

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

The consensus in the comments points towards the seat being overstretched and stapled. Hopefully the tears don't continue popping up 🤞 Thanks for the support!

@frankwe6095 11 ай бұрын

I tried an air hawk-like seat and it's way better than any stock or after market seat.....costs: 27 euro including shipping and taxes 😉

@RoadReality 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, I'd be so pissed! I bought a used Corbin seat for my Vaquero, and rode for a while on it, and had no issues. Might be worth looking into second-hand, if for nothing else than to save a few [or more] bucks. The repairs look perfect though, so maybe see how it goes with this one?

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like the 2021 and 2022 have a different shape so there isn't much available. I'm happy with the repair, they did a good job on it. I'm still paranoid something is going to open up somewhere else on the seat though.

@RoadReality 2 жыл бұрын

@@WaltInPA Oh yeah, I hear you on the "what'll happen next" :( Gotta love the yearly changes - same thing happened with exhaust on the Vaquero... after 2015 I think, Kawi moved the 2nd O2 sensor into the muffler section, and nobody bothered to re-engineer their exhaust, so you had to have a shop weld a bung onto your brand-new exhaust so you'd keep the emissions equipment, or change exhaust AND do a flash.

@ar2043 Жыл бұрын

Has anyone tried the “Seat Concepts“ brand? They have a real good reputation in the motocross/dirt bike/enduro market?

@MisplacedMotoVlogger 2 жыл бұрын

Sucks that they wouldn't stand by their product. I would feel paranoid as well after going through that. Hopefully it holds together now.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

The sad part is that I'm expecting more problems down the line. I talked to the upholstery guy and if the problems keep popping up I may have to have him add a trim piece around the bottom to give it extra strength.

@MisplacedMotoVlogger 2 жыл бұрын

@@WaltInPA Well, is sounds like you found a good upholstery guy. 👍

@madmanau8730 2 жыл бұрын

As a small business owner you should understand that for Chromeburner to offer you that service not only is the cost to them a write-off but the word-of-mouth benefit to them can and often does come back many times over in both repeat customers and their referrals. You paid for a new product, you deserved a new product. You should have gone with the re-cover straight up (extra splits notwithstanding). Always look after yourself first, Chromeburner wouldn't offer to cover it if it was going to be a problem for them. Edited to add: As an example, I will not hesitate to order from CB in the future and this video is going to be an example as to why.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Part of my hesitation was that recovering would have far exceeded what Bagster initially quoted for repair. I was very impressed with ChromeBurner stepping in and doing what Bagster was unwilling to do. I would order from them again without hesitation 👍

@fuglbird 3 ай бұрын

I'll be tempted to give my original seat to the local upholstery and ask them to to make me a more comfortable seat.

@DailYxDosE 2 жыл бұрын

The seat looks nice but ill probably try to find another company for when i get my mt09 based on your experience with Bagster. That was unfortunate.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

It is a shame - it really is a comfortable and good looking seat, I just wound up getting a bad one.

@Blondrider Жыл бұрын

Para mi una de las mejores marcas es Corvin por encima de todas las marcas,pero estoy en España y el envío internacional es caro. En España,Bagster nos coge cerca,Francia,yo llevo uno en mi Bandit 600 S,pero uno fabricado desde cero nuevo para mi modelo de moto,no mande el original mío a tapizar,lo tengo en casa guardado . Es cómodo,muy cómodo,puedes hacer largas distancias que no te duele nada ni sientes presión y yo sufro mucho de la espalda por enfermedad crónica. De momento no se ha roto nada,pero si es cierto que la calidad de los acabados no se ve tan buena para el precio que tiene,debería de llevar una mejor funda como su competencia Francesa Topsellere que es la numero 1 en Francia y se nota la diferencia. Saludos desde España 🇪🇸

@dg8062 Жыл бұрын

Bummer comfort seat STILL isn't available. After 2 mt09's, currently a new gen '21, I found a screaming deal on a '18 mt10 almost new. Even with the terrible gas mileage, the power is intoxicating and addictive. Can't keep them both, can you guess? I'll be skipping a meal a day so I can put gas in the 10. Lol

@WaltInPA Жыл бұрын

I'd love to ride an MT10 sometime to see how different it is from the MT09 👍

@chrissmith6478 2 жыл бұрын

Thought the SP had the yamaha comfort seat standard

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

No, the seat cover is the only difference between the base model. It has different stitching. From the Yamaha Website: The MT-09 SP features special colors and graphics, a distinguished seat cover with its stylish, contrasting stitching.

@lNickHD Жыл бұрын

Man, I was looking at getting a bagster seat for my 2023 Kawasaki Z900 but after watching some of these videos I am now skeptical.

@michaelglenn2468 Жыл бұрын

Still waiting for seat concepts to come out with a tall foam and cover kit for the 2022 MT09.

@chrisfrerichs8360 Жыл бұрын

I don’t see anything on the website am I missing something? Looks like they have 2014 to 2020..

@michaelglenn2468 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisfrerichs8360 They haven't come out with it. I got tired of waiting and reprofiled the stock seat using yoga mat foam. Very happy.

@GybkaBob1010 10 ай бұрын

What tank pads you have? Thanks

@WaltInPA 10 ай бұрын

Tech Spec Tanks Grips. I got them from TST Industries.

@spcjunk Жыл бұрын

I have an MT-07, I got "lucky" enough to get my hands on a Yamaha comfort seat ( on sale even ). I cannot tell the difference from the stock seat, it is absolutely NOT worth the money ( even on sale ), 50 miles in and I'm ready for a break. UGH.

@GoofyBastard 2 жыл бұрын

Sucks that Bagster is a shit company and doesn’t stand behind their products. But glad to see that you got the situation fixed at no expense of your own.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

I was shocked when I got the email that they were walking away from the problem. Chrome Burner, on the other hand, has been incredibly cool through the entire process. I would buy from them again in a heartbeat

@naxoblanquer4996 2 жыл бұрын

greetings from spain

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍

@empien9371 2 жыл бұрын

Is that a genuine Yamaha seat?

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

No, it is an aftermarket seat.

@darrenlingerfelt5879 2 жыл бұрын

👍

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@TheBlueBikeDoyle 2 жыл бұрын

Wow thar not good .

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Nope, not good at all. Hopefully the problems are behind me now 🤞

@PotatoeJoe69 2 жыл бұрын

If you want a comfortable seat, maybe a bike designed to be comfortable is what you actually want lol

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@stuartmartin9207 2 жыл бұрын

I think I bought the MT09 based on reviews by younger riders. My XjR very comfortable but weighs a ton. The MT is light, nimble and goes like hell but not made for a 67 year old butt.

@anhksunamoon 2 жыл бұрын

never bagster... go to an independent saddler instead !

@WaltInPA Жыл бұрын

I haven't had any new issues crop up but sadly I just don't trust the seat to hold up long-term.

@hachewie 2 жыл бұрын

Crap material by the sound of it.

@WaltInPA 2 жыл бұрын

Something definitely seems wrong with the material with it splitting as easily as it did. I really hope I don't run into the same problem on the top of the seat.

@hachewie 2 жыл бұрын

@@WaltInPA good luck.