This game is so legendary, one of my childhood favorites.

The Battlefield Bad Company games had destructible enviroments, it was great fun in multiplayer, if a building was too heavily guarded, you could just level the entire building to capture it. Also take out potential sniper spots with a well placed shot from a tank.

I will always remember the time when I collapsed a building on myself in Red Faction Guerrilla by knocking down the walls from the inside. I died but was laughing with a huge smile on my face. What an amazing game! I agree 100% with what you said and I am still waiting for that one game with "next gen destruction" lol

you should review the Mercenaries games. Same design philosophy, but have better mission design and progression, especially the first Mercenaries. For me Mercs 2 is extremely underrated even tho it was hated a lot when it came out. Just like Red Faction, u can destroy anything minus the terrain, even trees.

One of my favorite games of all time for the 360 played this for hours and hours. This was honestly my just cause back in the day 😭

RF Guerrilla is definitely a very fun game. I'm about to replay it again right now. At first glance it may look like just another open world "gta" game but when you include the Geomod 2.0 technology it makes the game a totally different beast of a game. Experimenting with it is so much fun. The possibilities are endless. This kind of technology doesn't seem to get the attention it deserves.

Man, those mini games where you had a specific amount of ammo to do a certain amount of destruction were so clutch! I spent hours with my buddies doing our own little challenges all over the map, like taking out a building with only x number of sledgehammer strikes. This was one of those games that really defined an era of my childhood lol.

I found this game by sheer accident but then I proceeded to play the campaign like 10 times it was awesome

I'm currently replaying my original copy of this game on my PS3 right now. I try and explain to my friends just how incredibly fun the game is and because they never played it back in the day, won't even give it a chance because it's just an old PS3 game. Bummed for them lol

I really love the multiplayer aspect of this game; extremely underrated. I spent hundreds of hours of into this game. It’s sad that this game didn’t continue on.

My first exposure to Red Faction was via the SR2 DLC where they added the Scout; I remember picking up Guerilla for a few bucks not long after and loving it. SR2 was/is one of my favorite all-time games; RF absolutely carries the same energy and it shows to glorious effect.

You should check out The Finals. A brand new free to play shooter made by former Dice developers. The game has real time destruction physics that can affect an entire match. It's been scratching that destruction physics itch for a lot of people.

I played through the entire game a few times over the years, but I have a few strong memories of the first time I played it. The intro of the game with your brother where you have to demolish the old research complex, realizing that you can plant explosives to destroy the structure on the side of the tower to control which direction it tilts and falls, and you can use the tower to smash into the building beside it. Teaches you a lot about how to approach the rest of the game. Taking a more extreme approach to hostage rescue, where there might be 20-30 enemy soldiers guarding the building, but if you recon from a distance to spot where the hostages are located, you can steal an APC and back it through a wall to get straight to the hostages and block off the room entrance from the soldiers, Then you just have to deal with 2-3 enemies, untie the hostages, get them in the APC and get out in under 20 seconds instead of a 5-10 minute gunfight. Learning how to identify the parts of buildings holding them up, so you collapse a building with 3 or 4 explosive charges, while it would take 20+ charges if you just try to destroy the entire ground floor. A side event defending a Red Faction safehouse where I found out the game had tanks for the first time. It's one of those where you have a big firefight between 10+ EDF soldiers and 10+ Red Faction allies. Took a good position in a window on a house's second floor to shoot from, which went pretty well.. until a tank rolled into the compound gate. I didn't even know the game had tanks at the time. The turret rotated to point straight at me, and there was a moment where I wanted to just hide beside the window (like a regular game). Then I remembered the destruction levels in the game and realized taking cover wasn't going to work.. Jumped out a back window, just as the entire floor exploded into a storm of debris from the tank's shot. The story mission where you have to kill snipers on 5th floor rooftops that are sniping random civilians to punish the civilian population for helping the rebels.. you can either get a sniper rifle and try to take them out one by one, or embrace the game's features by simply bringing down the buildings XD

The multiplayer in RF:G was sooo good. The backpack mechanic made it so unique.

Red Faction's geomod tech and environmental destruction is _still_ super impressive, and something not replicated often even to this day.

I played this on my brother's xbox a long time ago for a couple hours and it's always stayed in my head, even though I've never looked into the series since. I remember slowly dismantling an entire base with just a hammer and being so very satisfied. I wasn't able to access the internet at the time but I could tell that this was one of those sleeper hits, a sort of hidden gem in the gaming world.

Just want to tell you that your videos are great and your thumbnails are top tier

YES! THIS GAME SERIES WAS SOOOOO MUCH FUN AT THE TIME! I remember this game! Good Times 👍

I remember when I was a little kid, sometimes I had to get dropped off at my grandmas house after school and my uncle still lived there, still in high school I think. He introduced me to this game and I fell in love instantly. I loved this game. Uncle had all sorts of hidden gems on the ps3 and GameCube

No clue why I wasn't getting notifications, gonna binge your last 2 videos after this

I busted my ps4 up several years ago and before I replaced it I just loaded up my ps3 collection and this game was an absolute gem. The wrecking crew mode for destroying the most environmental pieces was something I will never get tired of.

We need a updated version now!

i was just in the Playstation sale, and saw THIS game. when i was young, my brother had a PS3 and had, the Original Red Faction: Guerilla on PS3, and i remember just running around, blowing everything up. Over the year’s i remembered one thing … the Word “Guerilla” and “Red” on a PS3 game, which was a tought at the back of my mind. Im going to get because if nostalgia!

An ode to one of my favorite games of all time. I was a little surprised not to hear you mention Pandemic's game The Saboteur (2012). It was very much in the vein of Just Cause and Red Faction in that you destroyed enemy bases and outposts and they would stay permanently destroyed. Made it truly feel like you were shaping the game's enemies and difficulty in real time.

I remember this game on the 360 it deserved so much better attention

One of my favourite games, I played the ReMarstered version just recently and I recognise everything you stated, but still so enjoyable. That destruction part of the game is itself the game, all the rest is almost secondary

Try the Teardown mod "Impact Based Structural Integrity Test." It doesn't resolve the "3/4 walls gone, building still standing" problem, but once the building does start falling, it crumbles and collapses realistically instead of just dropping down and staying together. Also, try the dynamic building maps such as Dynamic Office Tower. That one DOES bend and fall realistically after some walls are knocked out. All these have a pretty large performance impact though.

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surprised battlefield wasn't mentioned

I watched an interview where the developers said that as soon as they perfected their engine for realistic destruction and gravity, they immediately ran into a problem where all the buildings they made would just automatically collapse under their own weight. They had to send their map designers to architecture classes in order to learn how to design buildings that could stand for the player to knock them down.

Nice video and great game! This is random but does anyone remember a small hatch on the outskirts of the map? I think it was an easter egg but cannot find anything on it now

One of the all time greats. Thanks for showing it love!

I'm working on such a game on and off since over two years. Currently at my ninth attempt on calculating when a building should break and where it should do so. Every attempt took several weeks / months to test. From simple rule based systems to a full implementation of a custom physics engine based on verlet physics that runs on a worker thread. (I've uploaded some attempts on my channel) Nothing has worked so far. But Verlet was Attempt 6, 7 and 8 (used in different ways) and I have, once again, a new idea which I'll try next. Btw. I'm not just a game programmer, I'm an actual civil engineer, so I learned how to calculate bulding statics - yet I still couldn't get this working. It's really hard (even with new hardware, those calculations just kill everything - it's not the math, it's the performance) and I guess that's one of the main reasons why no one has released such a game yet. Also destroyed buildings are heavy on the GPU as well - as you said, a stable building has a few polygons, probably just the outside - but when it's destroyed, you have so many polygons to render at once, all having shadows (so you basically have to render them twice). I wonder how they approached it. In interviews they said that they also had civil engineers on board iirc. I'll continue experimentation on that topic and maybe others will do that as well. With some patience, we'll get another fully destructible sandbox - sooner or later.

Love your stuff buddy

Don't let it be forgotten that RF:G's destruction engine was coded by one gigabrain guy.

Man. Me and my bud spent countless hours playing thos during summer break. One of my all time favorite games from my childhood.

Wonderfully said. What an insightful video.

I remember playing this game as a kid and I absolutely loved it! I wish they would make another game like this and like mercenaries

I just finished the remarstered edition yesterday again. Such a great game

ahhh one of my favarte tartics in this game was finding a armored flat top truck or oil tanker straping half a dozen c4 charges onto it, and raming it i into an EDF base while jumping out just before it went bomb and runing like a mad man. was a wonderful thing to see

Damn that looked pretty awesome. Had no idea the later red faction was capable of that.

I think the reason that you don’t see this games destruction done more is less because of the technical stuff and more because it’s hard to design actual engaging environments when you can blow everything to kingdom come. That’s the cause of the bland environments over the mars setting. This is why I actually consider Teardown has better destruction despite what you bought up. Because it’s focused on small scale destruction with fun heists and chases.

What was that cell shaded game ?

Man simping the physics engine from a 7th gen game for 17 minutes straight: In all seriousness, having more realistic destruction physics would make modern games more fun. Especially now that even home consoles are exceedingly more advanced than they were a decade ago. Being able to realistically tear a building apart piece by piece would appease the sadist in all of us.

Love this video as always 👍

Thanks bacon this game brings back awesome memories!

HOLD IT MINER!

Bang on! When it comes to destroyable environments, Red Faction: Guerilla is the king! Such great memories just breaking stuff, and how fluid it all was... It's a shame more developers aren't exploring this and going beyond. Another legendary game that revels in destruction is Silent Storm and it's expansion, Silent Storm: Sentiles. It's an excellent tactical turn-based game akin to Jagged Alliance etc. Easily one of my favorites! Silent Storm Gold Edition from GOG is recommended.

It’s surprising that no body ever talks about the Red Faction games that much. The game looks okay and I get that they wanted go from First Person to Third Person due to Saints Row success.

Just bought the remarstered because I hadn't played this since my PS3 self destructed. It holds up so well and I love the new back options(or at least they're new to me I didn't remember them) the thrust is great for destroying buildings and killing enemy's and I'd love a sequel that isn't well armageddon which I never bothered to finish.

Absolutely FANTASTIC video. RFG is just soo amazing. One of my favourite games of all time.

My brother, cousin, and I would play the multiplayer all the time trying to see who could get the highest scores each round. So much fun

I love that Daniel Johnston song

I think it is fair to say that, unless gaming industry regresses, more sophisticated enemy AI or destructible environment are THE next big things in gaming

on my second play through of the remaster and i can't believe how well it holds up, especially for its age. really wish this game had the magnet gun from armageddon, such a fun weapon doesn't deserve to be trapped in that prison of a game lmao

Red Faction Guerrilla has so much replay value... one of my faves and it is still in my library.

If they ever made a new Red Faction I'd want highly stylized visuals, just so that they could keep it looking nice while lowering the polygon counts on everything. And I want them to do that so that as much power as possible can be funneled into the destruction.

The finals is just around the corner, showing that some devs are interested in the concept

Oh I think I remember this game after watching the gameplay. Nice.

Games around this time had some really amazing and innovative physics engines. it's really sad that it just fizzled out and never really went anywhere, with newer games just having a carbon copy physics engines and glitchy ragdoll deaths.

My absolute favourite thing to do back in the day, with the original release, was to load up a truck with explosives, drive it into a building and blow it up from the inside. Infinite fun seeing all the destruction while my old ass computer struggled to render it. They don't make fun stuff like this anymore.

Even old school Volition couldn't follow it up, that's why we got Armageddon.

Interesting. I’ve never really seen this franchise. I’ll have to look into them.

I always put in a huge effort to reduce destruction in the town of Dust. It's pretty easy to speed through the bombardment mission but NPC vehicles and scripted IDF street executions *always* end up permanently scarring my poor beautiful town

Thanks for highlighting the gem of my teenage years.

I think they could've (in story) explained that Mars had just finished terreforming and thus didn't have the man power or resources to add more to the (natural) environment. And as imperfect and flawed as this game could be, it has many underrated elements about it as well, especially the soundtrack imo, and the nostalgic lore it gives about the first game.

God I miss those games

One of my favoriyes alo g with prototype,saints row ,gta4 and fallout 3 i think it was something to do with that era between 2006-2012 there was so many good solid games on the 360 i think we peaked around then as games were still about gameplay and campain as much as it was graphics i noticed alot of games had attention to detail or quirks like guerillas destruction physics

But what about The Finals ? They tried that kind of physics engine I guess

Besides the nostalgia it is really just unique and in its own element given the destruction capacity and how you choose to go about it

I've probably played this game 3 or 4 times since it's release till just recently! I don't know what is this urge that keeps me coming back to these games..

Hopefully the finals follows through on its promise of destruction 😯 maybe percs up some devs to that if its a hit

I can’t tell you how long I tried to snipe a pilot out of the VTOL and have it low enough it wouldn’t explode so I could try and fly it😂

What happened to Armageddon? There were like 3 destructible buildings and 4 tiny bridges

And just a few months later after this Volition is gone. Sucks too cause there is so much sci fi concepts story wise you can through in there.

I also like to admire the bodies after a battle

Man... From Saints Row 4 to the last Saints Row, I think a VAST majority of blame is on the Publisher/money-holder. RIP Volition✌😢

The finals fingers r s crossed

Guerrilla was one of the great ones. My favorite thing to do was to attach remote explosives to a truck and plow in through the front door (hopefully I'm not on a list now XD). I'm not going for the remaster though because I'm avoiding multi-player.

and a couple months after this video came out, Volition went belly up

Can anyone help with the online trophies? Im on ps4

I wonder if the multiplayer is active. I just grabbed it on the steam deck

This guy would LOVE to play Control.

Thanks for the video.

if the next Lego Game after 2K Drive has destructible environments, I could see it getting close to this

I didn't get too into Red Faction but I know the feeling. I'd love to see something like Burnout 3 or Burnout Revenge being done on modern hardware. The spectacle of watching cars ram each other off the road at high speed or causing massive crashes involving a ton of different cars was amazing and it was a PS2 era game. Imagine what they could do with modern graphics.

The destruction and atmosphere of Red Faction Guerrilla - including the very gloomy and moody music - are bloody timeless. I'd love to see Volition return to Mars in a similar fashion, but only IF they aren't restricted and hindered in their vision 😊 They could even add a nice co-op mode 😉

It baffles me that not only Volition but so few game devs since have tried this type of approach. Digital Jenga is so much fun but hardly anybody has capitalised on it.

Lots of hours spent not even going through the story, just going to buildings/bridges blowing holes through shit to watch it crumble differently 😂

I can only imagine Geomod 3.0 on the PS4, and Geomod 4.0 on the PS5!

I do hate to be blindly optimistic, but maybe another Red Faction game is what Voltion needs to get back in the groove? Granted, it likely won't be as good as guerrilla, but if the publishers don't meddle too much and good ideas are floated about, maybe we can see the series return someday? Maybe even a Guerrilla 2 since 00s nogalistic is hot right now. Might be a pipe dream, but since there's been rumors of a Revengence sequel floating around, and how we gotten impossible sequels in the past, never say never, right?

Check out Overload, Is quite close to Descent!

The missions may be repetitive, but that doesn't mean that they are easy, more when you progress around the areas, you could so things to chess the game like knowing where to find the mechas to destroy the objectives more easily, but the two final areas are the hardest, because there is no scrap or minerals that you can use to improve your weapons, because they are military base and the largest city on Mars.

Give me destruction physics from red faction guerilla with nemesis system from Shadow of war. Game of the year right there.

I definitely would disagree on certain points, but I agree overall. Specifically what I disagree with is that Teardown is a "gimmick" game, which I'll explain. In games, I like having reasons for doing what I'm doing. Teardown, as far as I've played it, does exactly that. I have various goals in mind, not just "do this thing for fun". I want to also be progressing in something, improving my skills somehow, or coming to a conclusion in a story-focused game. I love having fun and shooting and blowing stuff up, but if that's all I'm doing, I'll quickly get tired of it if I don't have ways of mixing it up. Control (released in 2019), for example, I find to be endlessly entertaining. When I'm fighting enemies, not only am I improving my aiming, tactics, and reaction-time, I'm also given a variety of ways to defeat enemies with various skills. Maybe for whatever reason I don't want to (or am unable to) aim for a little bit, so I'll just use the telekinesis/mind powers and throw an object at a guy. Maybe I'll wanna kill a large group of enemies, there's a weapon form for that. Maybe I wanna be super specific about which of the enemies I kill, there's another weapon form for that, too. I can always change up my methods of fighting enemies while also trying to work on improving my patterns, even if small. Teardown has this exact same sort of "complete this thing how you want" idea to it as well. I'm able to make my own path, and with various weapons, (usually) however I like. (There are certain times where something is not able to be destroyed, but to me, it's frustrating but rare enough that I never really stop playing it.) The campaign can be boring sometimes, but if I get tired of something I'll just come back to it whenever I feel the need to. I tend to do this with a lot of games I've spent hours on, the Resident Evil remake, Destroy All Humans 2 remake, Project Zomboid, Viscera Cleanup Detail, Binding of Isaac, Cruelty Squad, Far Cry 2, etc, etc. Not everyone engages with games like I've described, and that's fine. I just disagree with the idea that it's more than just a mere gimmick. It changes things up from time to time, you just need to be able to look at it more as a "get this thing and fuck off" game rather than a sandbox. Also there's community mods, but I don't like the argument of "mods can fix the game" so I won't bring that up, I just find that it's icing on the cake. I think, fundamentally, it comes down to what I'm coming to Teardown "for", I'm okay with an objective-focused game that also includes some destruction that might not be as complicated or realistic as Red Faction: Guerilla. Funnily enough, I actually found RF:G to be one of those games that I couldn't come back to after finishing it. Initially I was the same as TBP, I found the destruction to be fucking FANTASTIC (and it is, the level of detail is still, to this day, fucking unbelievable), but after completing the main mission and side-quests, there wasn't much point to me restarting. I'd done everything, seen the destruction. Not much else I can do after that. Furthermore, I even had some gripes with RF:G, specifically concerning the enemies. If I wanna destroy a building, I'll have to kill all of the enemies, but they're also constantly respawning, so I'd always have one or more guys busting my nuts while I'm trying to blow something up. I tried looking around online for cheats or workarounds that would enable me to turn off the "wanted level" or whatever you'd call it, but I never found any if they even do exist. (After looking for a little bit, I found several threads of people talking about this as well. At least I know I'm not alone, I guess.) Either way, it's frustrating that I'd have to deal with enemy spawns at all, and it even makes it so that I don't come back to it for that exact reason. I'm sure there are ways to turn the enemies off, but I don't particularly care to since I've done pretty much everything. Maybe 100% the game? But even that can be frustrating/impossible since none of my friends own it. Either way, I guess we're coming to RF:G and Teardown for different things, but this was a good video, despite my disagreements. The lack of destruction mechanics in games is a shame, it's always fun seeing that kind of thing implemented, even when in small quantities, like in the GTA/Infamous franchises. One of my first examples of this that blew my mind was in Far Cry 3, when I accidentally drove off a bridge. I had been driving along it and wondered, "I bet the guard rails on the bridge won't break, huh?" and I sure was shocked when I found myself going for a dip. For me, I'd only previously played GTA IV and a couple other games where you could control vehicles, and none of them had destructible items like that, especially not over areas like water. (GTA IV has a couple destructible environments and things like that, but I only recently discovered this in a previous playthrough, so apparently I hadn't associated it in my mind.) Hopefully that new space game Bethesda's putting out is good enough that modders can add that kind of thing. (Though of course I'm not holding my breath for it, they fucked up my favorite post-war franchise. They're sure not getting any of my money ever again.) Anyway, good video.👍 Even if they might not do very well, I always enjoy the content you put out. Keep up the good work if you're enjoying it, and if not, I hope you do well in whatever you decide on doing.

Now Volition is closed, I don't hold out much hope for a Red Faction game any time soon. And it we do? I very much doubt it will be of the same level or quality of RFG :(

This game was on sale for 3 bucks on the switch. Absolute steal

Check out a game called Overload if you want a newer Descent game or Forsaken Remastered.

I wish there was more mods on this game at very least... If someone would do the map editor for it, fun would be doubled, create entire city than destroy it.

Awesome game. I just wish Volition had given us a good Freespace 3 to finish up the series.