yea, that very good, the problem is that the scene is. completely static

Burst is fully supported with mono it creates lib_burst_generated.dll And its even working in Editor if you checked in Burst options

Thats how relevant Unity is these days 😂

Thanks, the pain of copy and paste formatting, fixed now. ;)

Subliminal messaging.

LOL I thought you were joking

”Wrong”😅

I honestly think GameObject Unity is just fine.

I was thinking the same about c# before, but in all honesty, c++ in unreal is so heavily modified, that it's not a big deal to use it.

I totally agree with this. When I started looking at DOTS/ECS (like a decade ago I guess), I remember feeling like it completely contradicted the point of using Unity instead of Unreal. I remember thinking that I'd rather use Unreal (even c++) than use an entirely different programming paradigm. Hopefully OOP concepts will still be supported in Unity and DOTS won't take away from the oop api and badly needed tools that they could work on, but considering Unity's track record of spreading itself thin ever since 2017, I fear that this is exactly what they'll do.

Well its a multiplayer combat sample now, and only 1 was playing it. There in theory should be up to 63 other cars flying around doing combat, but I couldn't exactly demonstrate that.

@@gamefromscratch thanks for replying, but not the point I tried to make. Entity components systems work with entities, where are they? (Player enities not withstanding)

​@@WaraiOtoko yeah, im wondering the same lol

All the static geometry enetities could have been baked into a few meshes/gameobjects. I assumed the whole point of the megacity dots example was tons of dynamic entities. Even with 64 player vehicles it would still be missing the point.

​@@WaraiOtoko I think you may have misconception of the term entity. An entity is (almost quite literally) just an id number. You're never going to see them. Entities are just id numbers that allow you to associate data with them so that the data can be distinguished from the data associated with other entities. Some entities have visual data components associated with them which can be displayed using systems, while others don't. The point of ECS isn't necessarily dynamism; it's a way to manage large amounts of data efficiently allowing a game to handle a lot more data than otherwise possible. For example, the scene you're seeing is composed of many sub-scenes, which themselves are entities that are streamed in and out (i.e. dynamically loaded and unloaded). So the "static" geometry is handled in a dynamic way. There's a lot more going on in this project than meets the eye. I haven't downloaded the project yet myself, but if you look in the project in the authoring folder, that's where you'll find the code for creating entities for various things and associating them with their data. There is also some code that suggests that "bots" can be added, but don't underestimate the dynamism entailed by the multiplayer aspect of the project. I'm sure Unity will give us a clearer picture on the features it wants to showcase when it officially presents the project.

I'm guessing that a good chunk of the performance is also missing since it's running in the editor

It's because they upgraded it to the HDRP pipeline, which only runs on high end PCs. Switch it to URP pipeline for lightweight graphics that runs on mobile.

@@michaelzomsuv3631 it's running on a 3070 TI mobile in this video as GFS said in a comment below. so I'm expecting it to do a lot better on a high end PC with LWRP

Okay, got the build version working (you also need to build the server and have it running). And was getting caped 144 frames at 1440p on all high. Turned of vsync to uncap and was getting 120-350 frames. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5Z7ZaugtNqUf30.html is a short demonstration.

Every single object you see is an entity. In fact, parts of the map are streamed in and out as entities themselves.

@@LuukDomhof whats the point of making them entities instead of static meshes?

​@@fkeyzuwu dude this ain't unreal engine, in unity u have static entities!

@@fkeyzuwu The fact that they are entities doesn't mean they can't be static meshes. The fact that they're entities simply means that their logic is determined by a system. The entities rendering system can be a great performance boost over rendering individual GameObjects. "Static meshes" could simply be an entity with a MeshRenderer component

@@fkeyzuwu The point is that you can render 6 million entities with 60 fps on a mobile last gen gpu; doesn't really matter if they move or not, this is just a stress test that shows the extreme.

Unity is a publicly traded company now with greedy executives. Its only gonna go downhill. Better to jump off the ship as soon as possible. I have used it for a decade but now only use it for vr. Hopefully we can have good vr support in godot in the future.

It is, it used to have a lot of AI cars flying all over the place. And it seems the volumetric lights are gone as well. The overall size seems smaller too, but I might be wrong. And before the min requirements were also way lower.

@ good, I'm not being crazy..they moved the goal post.

It's been converted to a multiplayer mobile shooter game

@@paxon57 barely...they applied the least amount of effort to multiplayer...I assume less than 30 lines of code....

@ The original one is also updated to the 2022lts, this one is for showcasing dots multiplayer netcode

I'm also quite interested in hearing how relevant this will even be anymore. I switched to Unreal and gave up on Unity a long time ago, but I remember when all of this was newly announced.

Feature's done, they don't need him anymore. It's a very John Riccitiello thing to do.

Yes, or you don’t have LFS support installed in git

@@gamefromscratch Sorry, you lost me, I only downloaded the zip.

@@starvr you need to use GIT because some of the files are not gonna be downloaded with the zip.

@@MuhammadHosny0 OK Thanks, I'll do that.

Huuu? That's just because it defaults to TAA with bad settings to start with. Adjust the settings to reduce the blur or remove TAA entirely if you can't stand any blur.

3070ti mobile. Not in turbo mode here so do not look at this as any kind of benchmark

I'm not even sure it's the problem, cause they said it would run also on an Android phone... A rtx 3070 computer, video capture or not is much better than any android phone from 2019

@ Have you seen the resolution at 3:35 - 1366x768 I have no idea what is going on here but something is wrong.

@@tomtomkowski7653 idk, I find that just concerning that it used to run on early 2019 mobile phones, (you can see demos and papers of it on unity website) ... And 4 years later it lag on a 3070. I don't have the courage to run it myself and investigate what's wrong with it.

I agree with you. Even though the buildings consist of thousands of objects, to me it just looks like one asset. It would be interesting to see perhaps a large-scale space combat game with thousands of ships flying and shooting instead (or something else)

not at all, nanite main benefits are the high poly assets.

@@saul8510 it reduces the cost of making games by expressive magnitudes! It’s way easier making high poly models + texturing them with great tiled materials instead of making beautiful low poly models with atlas materials. Nanite brings more freedom and power to small studios and low budget games, by completely removing the model optimization process and allowing greater levels of details without having to deal with LOD. I make buses and trucks for my simulator. I can very easily create a high poly version of most models in less then one week. But a low poly, optimized model, that looks still great… Requires several weeks.

You don't understand the application of this type of approach then my friend.

Unlike nanite this can be optimised to run on mobile devices too

they did, but ended up firing them all a while back