The Unknown Spy Drama is Overblown and Unnecessary

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Streamline Workshop

Streamline Workshop

Күн бұрын

Oh my god, I'm actually uploading a video talking about something that happened in the last 6 months instead of from a year back!
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Twitter: / streamworks_
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Spy’s callout doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1V...
Happy’s new Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1j...
Happy’s new doc pre video: docs.google.com/document/d/1m...
Happy’s old Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1n...
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0:00 - Intro
2:49 - Section 1: The Original Callout Doc
32:12 - Section 2: The Fuckass Video
38:08 - Section 3: The H Stands for Hypocrite
52:56 - Final Thoughts
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@StreamlineWorkshop
@StreamlineWorkshop Ай бұрын
Edit: Spy was not aware about Noi being in NSFW spaces/showing other minors NSFW when she originally wrote the 100 page doc and added it later when she found out. Happy and her fans are now trying to imply I am a groomer for making this video: x.com/StreamWorks_/status/1813470081495560230 Stop raiding Happy’s Discord ffs, this video is literally talking about how unnecessary harassment is. I’m really impressed how many people can see into the future here. You’ve watched the video before it even premiered and shared it with everyone. Rats, how will I get away with my crimes now.
@sylviathegreat
@sylviathegreat Ай бұрын
SOBBING yeaahhh.. the amount of people just completely assuming the worst with your video before it even premieres is mental
@KittyCatYT
@KittyCatYT Ай бұрын
I think StreamlineWorkshop will have a good take on this subject, don't respond before the question is asked!
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Ай бұрын
Ok.. so basically.. Both parties are at fault here..
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
​@@Wroar2020syes both art basically at fault while spy made ALOT of post and stuff about it. Nori is also a danger to themsleves and others
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Ай бұрын
​@@alexisdied4558 also... the propagandist (HappylikeAwall) is here in the live comments 💀💀💀
@DigitalxxAnimal
@DigitalxxAnimal Ай бұрын
Society when we realize that “kids can do really shitty things that deeply upset people” and “that doesn’t mean adults should stoop to their level and fight them as if they were adults” can and SHOULD coexist
@Sparkle2123
@Sparkle2123 Ай бұрын
This right here- The amount of people I've seen, that are in their 20s that act like this, is scarily alarming. This is coming from someone that's in their early 20s rn
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly Ай бұрын
We need to stop treating hating or dehumanizing kids as a likeable trait. Edit; I think I left the stove on for too long in the replies.
@ztdtlf9717
@ztdtlf9717 Ай бұрын
I disagree, children suck (joking), but some kids online are just looking for the nsfw channels just to frame them as Pdf files, which I find stupid since they are putting themselves willingly in that situation
@chromaticmono6406
@chromaticmono6406 Ай бұрын
@@ztdtlf9717well children r stupid. But in this specific situation a lot of the things could’ve been prevented if the adults involved didn’t engage with the 16 y.o (i forgot their name)
@ztdtlf9717
@ztdtlf9717 Ай бұрын
@@chromaticmono6406 To an extent that's fair unless the kid in question keeps finding ways to screw with your mind
@chromaticmono6406
@chromaticmono6406 Ай бұрын
@@ztdtlf9717 if the kid keeps “screwing with ur mind” then u disengage. Its the adults responsibly to assess the situation and provide the best outcome.
@Starlight_Daycarelol
@Starlight_Daycarelol Ай бұрын
Realist thing I've heard all day (I'm a minor myself)
@user-uu3bn7eu5w
@user-uu3bn7eu5w Ай бұрын
By spy’s logic. The whole art/animation meme Community are copying eachother
@furrydbz
@furrydbz Ай бұрын
LITERALLY
@ivoneo2806
@ivoneo2806 Ай бұрын
Yeah but that's not new or anything In my opinion when anyone on the Internet irl do that it's like copying off of someone else test
@Alissa_FellowArtist
@Alissa_FellowArtist Ай бұрын
She never said that She's literally a part of the meme community.
@clarissejunqueira1994
@clarissejunqueira1994 Ай бұрын
which technically we are, but bro... he's 16. when i was 16, i was eating grass (exaggerating to say i was dumb as fuck). it is overly exaggerated and as stated in the video, copying is normal as kids and we kinda need to do it to learn. we start copying our parents so we start to talk and walk. nothing is totally original. and yeah, plagiarism is bad, but this isn't it.
@crystalmoonwolf
@crystalmoonwolf Ай бұрын
Exactly I’ve been a part of the animation meme community for five years and everything looks copied except for the art styles
@imdeetoskeeto
@imdeetoskeeto Ай бұрын
Noi “copies” and “harasses” Spy: takes 2 years to block them Streamline calls Spy out: takes 2 seconds to block them
@mlpstars
@mlpstars 25 күн бұрын
1. Being asexual does NOT stop you from being able to groom someone. Grooming is something that makes the child feel stuck, they don’t even have to be attracted to you. The person could groom the child romantically too, and depending on that child’s mental status, it could very well work. Which is horrifying but it’s the truth. 2. Using a sexuality as an EXCUSE is insane. You may be asexual but using THAT sexuality as a reason to why you can’t do something as broad as grooming someone is actually absurd. Keep in mind, when figuring out you’re asexual you have to eventually learn that there’s a difference between sexual and romantic love, sure as a kid you could think “you’d only be groomed sexually so I’m safe”, but no actually! Maybe an ADULT could clue in the ladder, but apparently not. Above all I’m disappointed and it’s actually horrid to call someone grooming someone else a “mistake”. Like bffr why are we caring about groomers and abusers again?? “He ONLY killed one guy and it was by accident like the gun just happened to fire!! Okay yeah I loaded it and pulled the trigger and made the conclusion to actually shoot, but cmon!!”
@Just_an_infamous_feline
@Just_an_infamous_feline 24 күн бұрын
PREACH, MADAME/GOOD SIR!
@Lactogentleman
@Lactogentleman 23 күн бұрын
agreed, none con acts like grooming is about power and control, not to mention romantic grooming is a example of a legal loophole since any smart lawyer can sadly argue "Well it was not sxual" and thus win the case by proxy even though their clear proof it was grooming.
@mythicaldrawer7072
@mythicaldrawer7072 Ай бұрын
"The next people who create a 'they stole my art style' situation will be dragged into my basement and be forced to listen to megalovania untill their ears bleed" Yo, can I help you with that? /j
@itsterres
@itsterres Ай бұрын
me too i wanna force em to play shadow of the erdtree
@JustAThought1997
@JustAThought1997 Ай бұрын
MEGALOVANIA is too good, Do the airhorn version of Megalocancer
@PenguinXD4
@PenguinXD4 Ай бұрын
Finally the NFL earrape theme will finally be worth it to usw
@StarMisura
@StarMisura Ай бұрын
But megalovania sounds good (unless you mean that it will bring back trauma for them cuz they died to Sans too many times)
@sparklesans1237
@sparklesans1237 Ай бұрын
I'll help too
@stickysocks6369
@stickysocks6369 Ай бұрын
This is just Sashley/Tearazah "wah wah wahhhh they stole muh artstyleeee" bullshit againnnnn GOD
@Nox.x_ART
@Nox.x_ART Ай бұрын
Those names gave me flashbacks to back when basically anything Sashley did would garner drama. Pose slightly too similar to another pose? BAD. Character shares one aspect/color with another artist? BAD. Or the hundreds of Sashley tracers and tracers OF the Sashley tracers.
@Gustyguy
@Gustyguy Ай бұрын
Oh god I remember that. Back when goattaco was dumb💀
@sweecose8631
@sweecose8631 Ай бұрын
As a recently turned 20 year old, "who's going to protect the adults? ;^;" is deadass the funniest thing i have ever heard to have came out of this stupid drama
@HappyLikeAwall
@HappyLikeAwall Ай бұрын
Kids have free card to do awful things online and accuse adults of carreer-ending stuff, over mundane things like a discord ban, while adults are clearly not even supposed to call them out. Streamlines psa of "block the troll" wouldn't work when he continues to influence hundreds of kids to send raids at someone. Just earlier today they wanted to doxx me. Kids indeed can't always reason but it doesn't really away from the fact he's constantly doing horrible things to people. Hence why "protect the adults", or in other words: look at situations skeptically. Streamline pulled my "protect adults" one-liner greatly out of context by not addressing much of the information leading up to it.
@opaloparu6048
@opaloparu6048 Ай бұрын
@@HappyLikeAwall Watched your video when it came out a while back. I see where you are coming from, heck, you are valid to feel that way! Respectfully. Kids don't get a free pass if they are literally breaking TOS, period. No one does. It's the rules! (By that I mean harrassment + raids + doxxing) When it comes to children, they are still growing and most likely acting on the influences in their environment. What you think is a "free pass" is actually the fact that people want to hold them accountable while also understanding they could be in danger, and are showing those red flags. I hope you improve how you handle things in the future with regards to the safety of others. Adults are arguably 100% allowed to call out minors on their behavior, the issue is, that we need to make sure it's done responsibly, and mindfully in order to ensure we don't accidentally make something worse. It's not your job to parent a random kid, so there is no reason to "teach them a lesson." Block, warn others, and use the many resources you have at your disposal to rid yourself of their presence as much as possible. There are plenty of spaces I was in growing up where kids would try to act out, but were swiftly dealt with through good moderation. That's the thing. It also more effort then we would like, but that's unfortunately just the internet. There are so many methods and resources that prevent raids, for example from happening. From screenshots I've seen, you already have some! Discord bots are great to control raids, and also moderators. I guess what I am saying is that the way we feel is valid, but the actions we take when we are upset are not always valid. I hope you are safe. Thanks, hope you understand!
@MEGaRandomMea
@MEGaRandomMea Ай бұрын
@@HappyLikeAwall That would of been agreeable if you guys didn't send an horde of angry fans at an child.
@xxdipstick
@xxdipstick Ай бұрын
​@@HappyLikeAwall Children don't have a free card. Anyone can do awful things online and accuse others of "carreer" ending stuff. In the same manner, anyone has the right to call out bad behavior and defend themselves. It's not that adults literally can't/aren't supposed to do anything about it when it comes to the actions of minors; stop twisting the message like that. Within the first 6 minutes of the video, Streamline literally says that had it been a small callout, it would've been perfectly fine. It's just that people expect adults to be reasonable, and it's pretty hard to defend a 140 PAGE DOCUMENT as a reasonable course of action.
@Ugli.
@Ugli. Ай бұрын
​​​@@HappyLikeAwallok but you and your friend have been stalking a minor for 2 years both of you are the weird ones here If anything I would say you and your friend ruined you're own careers here ngl you And your sentence would have been valid if you didn't handle the situation the way you did you literally stalked a minor for 2 years and sent a bunch of angry fans their way that is just a concoction of trouble and there's no excuse for it You are the adult you handle it like an adult I will say I don't agree with doxxing or raids at all that's not something I agree with but you are not the kids parent you do not get to say I'm going to teach this person a lesson block report move on and if this happened on discord you can get moderation fact is you are an adult you handle it like an adult
@Sinc3r3ly
@Sinc3r3ly Ай бұрын
“Whos gonna protect the adults!?” Uh…themselves…?? Also someone being developmentally disabled doesn’t mean they get a pass for being a predator christ
@Sinc3r3ly
@Sinc3r3ly Ай бұрын
People need to stop acting like us developmentally disabled people are children in adult bodies
@Just_an_infamous_feline
@Just_an_infamous_feline Ай бұрын
YES! PREACH MY GUY!!!
@BatBitesTheBat
@BatBitesTheBat 27 күн бұрын
@@Sinc3r3lysome of their brains literally don't grow past certain ages though
@BatBitesTheBat
@BatBitesTheBat 27 күн бұрын
Not saying its ok for them to after kids though
@mkzhero
@mkzhero 6 күн бұрын
Except that's not how the internet works. If a kid runs into an adult space, unlike real life, unless they stated their age honestly and there's a proper age validation process (which isn't true for many sites and messengers), these kids can go around doing all sorts of crazy shit and then get away with it, while getting the adults in trouble even if they have no idea. And how do you protect against that? Literally the ONLY way is to filter via age, and if they get around that, adulys online can't protect themselves for shit aside banning people when they say they're minors directly or suggest it strongly enough. And Happy's right, where the fk are the parents in this?
@kayceeaceclutz1638
@kayceeaceclutz1638 Ай бұрын
i got called a five year old by happy for stating i didn't know what was happening during a chaotic chat flood in their server. i do not like happy.
@derpkipper
@derpkipper Ай бұрын
Yeah she sounds rly toxic. Hopefully u got the hell out of there.
@Deg40000
@Deg40000 Ай бұрын
Yeah seeing her takes here throughout the video just comes across so pretentious I don’t really like her either.
@dillydraws
@dillydraws Ай бұрын
@@derpkipper She really is from all my experiences with her. She got pissy when referred to as they and was pretty rude most of the time. Heck everytime she got into a twitter argument or someone called her out she would post it in her server, @ everyone and talk about it. If people argued with her in her server, she would put them in a public "pit of shame" where her and the mods would keep them till they apologise.
@snaps_and_caps
@snaps_and_caps Ай бұрын
​@@dillydraws THEY GOT INTO A PIT OF SHAME? I got a fuckin ban over a meme drawing. Happy's fans are fuckin insane
@99morphine
@99morphine Ай бұрын
@@dillydraws wow it's almost as if Happy and Noi are no different from each other
@weezarddd__
@weezarddd__ Ай бұрын
im sorry but if you're in a relationship in which your parents have to actively watch over you to ensure the older person you're dating isn't _grooming_ you, I think that's a sign that there shouldn't be a relationship in the first place. No matter how 'healthy' the relationship is, the fact the adult has to prove they aren't taking advantage of the minor makes the power dynamic INHERENTLY _PREDATORY._
@Jynxnohcyare
@Jynxnohcyare Ай бұрын
Just a nitpick (I haven’t watch the full thing sorry 😭) the way they call noi “the minor” instead of their name or maybe even “this kid” is so STRANGE to me like,, minor is a legal term if I remember correctly and it feels weird it’s like their treating them like some sort of creature
@static-scribblez
@static-scribblez Ай бұрын
Couldn’t help but read “the minor” in David Attenborough’s voice *“And here we have the minor, prancing about in its natural habitat”* Like, what was stopping them from saying “child”
@adish1401
@adish1401 Ай бұрын
Honestly I was a Noi at 14 years old, that is a sign of major issues. It's not Spy's job to babysit someone who is going through something, but it very much is Spy's job as a person with a platform to comprehend what this behaviour could potentially mean and just stay away or warn fellow adults to stay away.
@derpkipper
@derpkipper Ай бұрын
​​@@adish1401to add onto your point: i hope they eventually grow out of it and/or are in a better space as they get older. I can't speak on whether or not I was this much of a little shit at this age, though. I don't think I was but I don't remember. As an adult: annoying teenagers are indeed irritating to deal with but after having a little back and forth exchange or some verbal jousting and they're still going, just best to move on...not make a friggin doc. This kid does *not* at all deserve potentially having hundreds of people send them harassment.
@Jynxnohcyare
@Jynxnohcyare Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@derpkipperas a annoying teenager: can confirm. I was harassed for drawing a character black and It fucked me UP it didn’t help that I was getting bullied irl too 😭 i have anxiety attacks and I gotta go to therapy now.
@Shlo0000sh
@Shlo0000sh Ай бұрын
I treat all people like creatures.
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Ай бұрын
Spy has a habbit of going after younger artist for "copying their style!" Where the minor in question doesn't even have 1% of their followers One time they went after a kid for having a inspired style to them MULTIPLE TIME on their Instagram stories and it was always "They draw hands like this! They make the legs like this! Lineart like that!" And even showing dm's telling them to stop "copying them" When spy could just block the person in question they don't loose any form of monetary gain and all it shows is an unhealthy obsession with thinking nobody can do it like them When in reality they are just as unoriginal as everyone els
@ThatGreenMach1ne
@ThatGreenMach1ne Ай бұрын
damn, what a loser
@GaetorCreation
@GaetorCreation Ай бұрын
​@@ThatGreenMach1ne honestly I just think they are exstremely insecure
@ThatGreenMach1ne
@ThatGreenMach1ne Ай бұрын
@@GaetorCreation that's really weird cause Spy's artwork is pretty good. Honestly I can't imagine getting this pissy over it.
@PhantomGato-v-
@PhantomGato-v- Ай бұрын
People like that are how I locate and support up and coming new creators
@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox
@Yuni-is-Schrodingers-Fox Ай бұрын
lose*
@Wolv1es
@Wolv1es Ай бұрын
This is INCREDIBLY petty and brings up another thing I see in the art community that's so stupid. Artists get their panties in a twist the second someone does something even remotely similar to their work whether that be a pose or a "similar outfit". A lot of the art is similar in poses and maybe in the style but it's not directly ripping them off. Young artists take a lot of inspo from other artists they like while they're trying to get better and improve, also Spy's work isn't completely original at all. This whole thing is incredibly corny and immature.
@derpkipper
@derpkipper Ай бұрын
Maaaan thats what I'm sayin too
@alecurzvn
@alecurzvn Ай бұрын
"who will protect the adults" who the fuck are you, a baby?
@TaikoUtau
@TaikoUtau Ай бұрын
I giggled at this
@ChristianKeithley-jc9mf
@ChristianKeithley-jc9mf Ай бұрын
Holy shit 😆 🤣
@BonseyJonsey
@BonseyJonsey Ай бұрын
The phone thing is a really cute gimmick, but in practice, some of the screenshots are waaaay too small. It's almost impossible to read and even if you're reading them aloud, it feels like we should be able to as well
@CandyinjectionX
@CandyinjectionX Ай бұрын
100%, I think it’s so creative but for the sake of evidence a bit impractical. If it was bigger and took up more of the screen (like a tablet) I think that would be so cute!
@springetafazbear9698
@springetafazbear9698 Ай бұрын
I like it too but I feel like someone like a smart phone would be better so the key pad wouldn’t be in the way Edit: spelling
@_Diarmuid_
@_Diarmuid_ Ай бұрын
I will never understand what the big deal with young artists "copying" more popular artists is. Like dude they are still learning and obviously if your art is what they are taking inspo from they look up to you. Even if they are copying your art style itself who cares? It's unlikely they'll be doing that forever. Studying other people's art styles in a genuine learning technique, people do it with old artists all the time.
@jojo-7306
@jojo-7306 Ай бұрын
Yeah like it's normal as an artist to see a piece of art and be inspired by it and want to incorporate a specific aspect of it into your own art, consciously or subconsciously. It's just that as you grow, you learn how to draw inspiration from sources in a way that is more original and doesn't look like a copy of the thing that inspired you. Young artists are only just developing that skill and aren't as good at drawing inspiration from enough different sources and putting in enough unique ideas to make the art original. What they need is space to be allowed to train their skills and maybe some guidance by a more experienced artist, not a fucking callout post.
@PhantomGato-v-
@PhantomGato-v- Ай бұрын
If someone "steals" (takes inspiration from) my art I'd be very happy. Sadly, that won't happen because I'm pretty bad at art lol.
@bonnietelocole6777
@bonnietelocole6777 Ай бұрын
The Sashley Drama is part of what made it difficult for me to draw as often as I wanted to as a kid. I now still struggle to get up and draw because I'm scared, and people like Spy feeding into this mess of a "callout trend" is 100% wrong. It also continues to distract from more serious issues, like children being put in unsafe situations in favor of petty drama.
@TheGalacticCat
@TheGalacticCat Ай бұрын
fr, if anyone were to take inspiration from my art, no matter their age, i would do backflips from joy
@99morphine
@99morphine Ай бұрын
wait until Spy finds out about BrujoAri, whose fanbase loves his art style and imitate it to an extent (and why wouldn't they be? It looks really good!)
@saltyspitoon2539
@saltyspitoon2539 Ай бұрын
unknownspy has seemed really full of herself lately imo, i recall seeing people in her comments asking questions and stuff about the characters and she replies really snarkily as if she is irritated by her own fans
@chromaticmono6406
@chromaticmono6406 Ай бұрын
Right?? I stopped liking their content a while ago cause of how sexual it was. I came back just to see what she was up to, but there are multiple posts where she gets weirdly offended when her characters are compared to something else. I get being annoyed as an artist, but she was responding to every comment that was mentioning it-
@saltyspitoon2539
@saltyspitoon2539 Ай бұрын
@@chromaticmono6406 yeah, just reeks of superiority complex to me, i get being irritated but theres a line you cross when you get aggressive with people who are just harmlessly interacting with your art, not to mention all the examples from the video where shes complaining about pose theft and background theft?? please grow up
@A_Small_Rodent
@A_Small_Rodent Ай бұрын
​@saltyspitoon2539 Throwing in my experience with Unknownspy. I answered a question of a user asking about something, and Spy was seemingly angry at me answering someone's simple question. Idk if that's normal with other people who make oc's and such.
@CandyinjectionX
@CandyinjectionX Ай бұрын
RIGHT?!?!
@espurresso
@espurresso Ай бұрын
didn’t she draw ppls characters for art fight and then try to sell them as adoptable or am i misremembering
@wobblewubbzy
@wobblewubbzy Ай бұрын
What’s with artist suddenly being overly protective of their art? It’s fine to not want people to trace or copy you, but getting angry at people being INSPIRED by your art is weirdo behavior. I once had a young artist get inspired by my art and I remember feeling so happy. I felt nice that someone liked my art so much they got inspired by it, so idk what these guys are on abt lol.
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly Ай бұрын
Even if Happy was right about the "15 year old dating a 20 year old" thing, you would have to be delusional to think that the motivation for the 20 year old wasn't because they wanted power. Power dynamics play a role in abusive relationships, abusers tend to seek out victims who are "below" them in some way (maturity, financial status, living conditions, etc.). Thus making them easier to control and more vulnerable. Minors can't maintain healthy romantic relationships because of factors like experience and puberty. You can still have an abusive relationship with a 15 year old and a 20 year old without it being sexual.
@HappyLikeAwall
@HappyLikeAwall Ай бұрын
Reminder age of consent is 16 where I live, and that romeo and Juliette laws exist for small legal age gaps as long shreggs isn't involved. Basic bit of research, really.
@caramel9154
@caramel9154 Ай бұрын
@@HappyLikeAwall age of consent isn't age of adulthood though, they're different things so if an adult is dating a teenager without them having a pre-existing relationship where they were both teens, a 15 year old with a 20 year old still doesn't work. A 15 year old doesn't even meet the age of consent, though even beyond that this person is talking about the morality of the situation which differs from legality.
@charatheproxy4233
@charatheproxy4233 Ай бұрын
@@HappyLikeAwall Stop copy pasting
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly Ай бұрын
@@HappyLikeAwall The Romeo and Juliet laws only apply when there's a 1-2 year gap in the relationship. A 15 year old and 20 year old have a 5 year age gap. Also, you said that the age of consent is 16 in your country, but you said a *15* year old, not 16. Most countries with 16 as their age of consent can still penalize you if you're 3 or more years older than your s/o. Even if sexual acts weren't involved in the relationship, it would still be weird and predatory because of the difference in maturity.
@xxdipstick
@xxdipstick Ай бұрын
​@@HappyLikeAwall A "basic bit of research" would tell you that Romeo and Juliet laws are typically applied to 2-4 year gaps between TEENAGERS. It would also tell you that Romeo and Juliet laws are to protect teenagers from being charged with statutory r*pe. First off, why are you bringing up laws that pertain to statutory r*pe in a relationship where "shreggs isn't involved"? Secondly, do you just... not consider the fact that a relationship between a 15 year old and a 20 year old is extremely morally reprehensible? "Shreggs not being involved" is literally the only thing preventing the relationship you're defending from being illegal in most parts of the world. That said, just because it's not illegal doesn't mean it's okay. In any scenario, there's a pretty big gap in maturity and brain development between a 15 year old and a 20 year old. I feel like you, of all people, would know that, considering your stance on minors not belonging in adult spaces. (No, i'm not implying that I disagree with you on that.) Anyway, that's not even considering the social aspects; i'm pretty sure most people wouldn't be supportive if a 15 year old said that they were in a relationship with a 20 year old and vice versa. Both legally and morally, 5 years REALLY isn't a "small age gap" when you're talking about an adult dating a minor. Aside from citing a law that doesn't support your case in any capacity, how are you so stubborn that you're defending a college student dating a middle schooler/freshman high school student? Don't misconstrue my argument, I'm not implying you're a groomer. I'm questioning your beliefs and reasoning. Are you really saying you'd be okay with someone your age dating a highschool freshman or middleschooler? PLEASE consider how bad this belief makes your arguments look. A 15 year old, a minor, wouldn't be able to be in the same spaces as a 20 year old, an adult, but they'd be able to be in a relationship?
@Reiameino
@Reiameino Ай бұрын
WHY IS A 27 YEAR OLD STALKING A 14 YEAR OLD IM SCREAMINT "PROTECT THE ADULTS" NO ARREST THEM
@Thiscatinmypfo
@Thiscatinmypfo Ай бұрын
Imagine you are the 27 year old in question Put up a sign saying; "hey, this place is not for minors, don't come in here" *The sign is ignored You put another sign "Hey adults only" *Gets ignored again Then the person says "ayo you shouldnt be drawing this next to me, im a minor." So yeah warnings dont solve anything and you missed the entire point, the point is THERE ARE places in the internet that kids shouldnt be allowed, it puts them at risk and the 27 year old person wont take their precious time to monitor 24 hours a day just to watch over someone else's children online, parents should do this, but any topic regarding parental responsibility both in this video and the comments are treated as a taboo?
@MEGaRandomMea
@MEGaRandomMea Ай бұрын
@@Thiscatinmypfo That's why you block them, not sic your BIG following on them. Yeah we should make it clear that they're not allowed in NSFW spaces without stooping to their level and harass them.
@Thiscatinmypfo
@Thiscatinmypfo Ай бұрын
@@MEGaRandomMea In another words heres the logic; Making a discord where children and adults can erp together? = Its fine, just block and ignore it. Calling attention to it and pointing cases of children getting exposed to literal p**n scenarios online?= You're literally stepping on their level, stop it. Before i start, no im not trying to make fun of you, just using a example of why i dont think that doesnt make sense, i do understand that kids shouldnt Held responsable the same ways adults do for their actions but the worst that happened is NOI loosing an account, This is nothing compared to the trial of a person in a real-life courtroom, while this, lets take Happylikeawall for an example, to this day is still getting harassed and threathened with doxxing. Also regardging harassment, not in a single moment Happylikeawall said to harass Noi in her video, even said to not do so at the start of it, but she's not getting the same treatment, It's not a question of "defending adults from children" That's not the point, but to expose the bad things children can expose themselves to, create and do online and also how much this needs to be stopped and actually taken serious. Wich is the entire point Stream missed or left out of the video.
@MEGaRandomMea
@MEGaRandomMea Ай бұрын
@@Thiscatinmypfo "In another words heres the logic; Making a discord where children and adults can erp together? = Its fine, just block and ignore it. Calling attention to it and pointing cases of children getting exposed to literal p**n scenarios online?= You're literally stepping on their level, stop it." Putting words in my mouth? That's not what I said. There is no problem in calling out an discord server that is endangering children, the problem is that they treated NOI on the same level as the predators when they could victims to the adult themselves, along with making fun of their art. You can teach them not to go into adult spaces without being an big immature bully about it and send an following of angry fans at them, my problem with how Spy and Happy handle it, they could of done it without the dehumanizing languages towards kids, Block them when they kept copying out of spite and bring attention to the discord without drawing that weird thumbnail and bully the minor we can both acknowledge kids being sh*tty while at the same time that doesn't mean the adult should act very immature and fight them like their adults.
@tracidityske
@tracidityske Ай бұрын
​@@Thiscatinmypfo Imagine defending the harassment of a child (even if.. and take a slow breath with me.. the child is a bad person).
@ShizzyIsNotEvenACapricorn
@ShizzyIsNotEvenACapricorn Ай бұрын
"wHo WiLl pRoTeCt ThE aDuLtS" I bursted out laughing that shit is fucking ridiculously
@Austin-LA
@Austin-LA Ай бұрын
If i see another "drama" of a adult getting pissy over children "copying/talking inspiration" for them I'm actually going to loss my shit Have we not learnt after almost a decade of this shit Omg a child being shitty, boo hoo
@TheRPGNerd
@TheRPGNerd Ай бұрын
"youre proof children dont belong on the internet"... they say to streamline... who is an adult...
@TheRPGNerd
@TheRPGNerd Ай бұрын
@Hellothere-h3i not what they said tho is it? They said child. Not "mentally a child" that's not the same thing
@j_erkass
@j_erkass 16 күн бұрын
@@TheRPGNerddamn they deleted their channel wonder why
@Razzaroola
@Razzaroola Ай бұрын
The "20 year old and 15 year old can date" stuff is CRAZY ????
@minervoionni36
@minervoionni36 Ай бұрын
FOR REAL Happy did elaborate later on, she said it was a typo that she refused to fix after sending it because she didn’t want to seem like she was damage controlling and like Dude are you actually the r-word . You make a typo, a Very very bad typo, one that completely changes the context of your message and makes you seem like an absolutely disgusting person, and you decide to not fix it because you think you’d look stupid . What the hell is that
@NightFree7
@NightFree7 Ай бұрын
I had to pause the video at that point lmfao I was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else talked about it
@torchi6883
@torchi6883 Ай бұрын
17 not 15. But still. Crazy
@table2.0
@table2.0 Ай бұрын
@@minervoionni36bro. If you are going to call someone a slur, at least have the balls to actually use the slur. Saying “you are an r-word” shows you know why that word is bad and shouldn’t be used yet you still say this. Stop.
@minervoionni36
@minervoionni36 Ай бұрын
@@table2.0 Oh I can reclaim it I just don’t like to Also I think saying “the r-word” is more funny than actually saying retarded idrk why. I am Quite a special person
@Asmodeuslvr
@Asmodeuslvr Ай бұрын
I'm the same age as Unknown Spy and seeing her at her grown age misuse her platform to go after a 16 year old is so sickening? Do you not have better things to do? Especially since the callout had NOTHING of substance to truly call out Noi and ignored the safety of Noi being compromised as well as other minors in NSFW spaces. Is Noi being a shitty kid? Sure, a lot of teens have growth that needs to be made. Cannot believe no one caught on as quickly how horrible this callout was.
@BlikTuberFictionalIsBased
@BlikTuberFictionalIsBased Ай бұрын
Oh my god I remember that post Happy made about “A 15 year old and 20 year old can be in love” that was weird and oh yea what they said about gender
@Nox.x_ART
@Nox.x_ART Ай бұрын
Oh god what did they say about gender
@BlikTuberFictionalIsBased
@BlikTuberFictionalIsBased Ай бұрын
@@Nox.x_ART "There's only two genders" thing
@GyaruTobii
@GyaruTobii Ай бұрын
And when they said they found autistic people "annoying"... 😬
@BlikTuberFictionalIsBased
@BlikTuberFictionalIsBased Ай бұрын
@@GyaruTobii yikes they would not like me then lol I have autism
@markfaites
@markfaites Ай бұрын
and dont forget how she was ableist on autistic people like "oh yeah if youre born this way like your brain functions a little bit not as usual, i hate you, you piss me off, go off yourself aand youre below me, because i am an allistic supremacist who gets angry AT THESE HAALF HUMAAANS😡"(literal translation of her thoughts btw cause shes a nutjob) gosh i want happy to shut uppp, can someone educate her on how insane she sounds? its the same as saying "yeah some under-humans piss me off with their existance cause they got a sixth finger on their foot thats so noooootttt normaaallll and makes me maaadddddd"
@jordonthecookie
@jordonthecookie Ай бұрын
Im convinced that Twitter is a gateway drug for others to act stupid or shitty.
@aliteralblueberry7837
@aliteralblueberry7837 Ай бұрын
My only concern is what happy said in the chat about a 16 year old and 20 year old dating. I know she’s from a different country but it doesn’t make it right. I’ve said my peace I hate no one here have good days
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
16 and 20...is a stretch like it is one age away from disgusting but also depends when they met and stuff. 16 and 20 is only a 4 year age difference but it is definitely weird
@derpkipper
@derpkipper Ай бұрын
​@alexisdied4558 you definitely won't be saying this when you're about 5 to 10 years older. 🤨
@mwokozi
@mwokozi Ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@derpkipperagain really depends. Like sometimes Freshmen and Seniors get together in high school and the relationship lasts. It’s weird but not inherently predatory or wrong. Like you see 13-14 year olds dating 17-18 year olds in high school. A 4 year age difference between high schoolers happens and sometimes they last for years. This it’s very situational. More often than not it’s much worse than two high school lovers having dated for a few years with a 4 year relationship so one becomes more and more of an adult while the other one is still a minor but and older minor.
@nav1go827
@nav1go827 Ай бұрын
@@mwokozi a 17 year old dating a 13 year old is fucking INSANE wtf are you on 😭
@caramel9154
@caramel9154 Ай бұрын
@@mwokozi hey, captain obvious here. a 13/14 year old is massively different from a 17/18 year old sociologically & biologically which creates something called a power dynamic, which in this context refers to someone much younger with much less social rights & status (by way of age) getting into a relationship with someone who is much older, with much more rights, more status, more physical development of the brain, identity and body. With puberty there is a MASSIVE difference to an indivdual when they are 13 to when they are 15, causing internal relationship issues (here refering to 13yo with 15yo) that become inherently exploitative with a dynamic like 13 with 17, the younger party is unable to consent. The same is applicable to a 16 year old with a 20 year old. If this has happened to you or anyone you know, I urge you go talk to some sort of helpline or trusted friend! Even if this is 'normal' by way of how common it might have been for you, it really isn't healthy due to the inherently explotitive power dynamics - 17 year olds aren't normally attracted to 13 year olds for a reason, likewise with 20 year olds with 16 year olds, there's a noticable lack of development. If the older party is unable to tell that lack of development that's quite concering! The only time age gaps are normal is when both parties are experienced consenting adults, like 35 & 50 is a major age gap but provided both met when they were adults, its normal.
@furrydbz
@furrydbz Ай бұрын
I remember when unknownspy and their followers bullied crucorvus for copying sleepykinq's baby hotline meme (they were nothing alike beside slowing the audio down, which cru's was even slower) to the point cru had to apologize to sleepykinq and credit them as "inspiration" (cru wasn't even inspired by them) before later unlisting their video. I'm pretty sure sleepykinq never even knew about cru or what unknownspy said.
@rosebud8027
@rosebud8027 Ай бұрын
nah thats crazy you talking about the one from 5 years ago? i just watched it and theyre NOTHING ALIKE.
@SpaceySodaPop
@SpaceySodaPop Ай бұрын
⁠@@rosebud8027It’s nuts that Spy would (allegedly) go after Cru on someone else’s behalf. Someone who didn’t even know about Cru.
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe
@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe 23 күн бұрын
Ok who else thought the post about America, Palestine, autism and ect. Sounded so unhinged, uncalled for and disgusting? 💀
@squid_koolaid
@squid_koolaid 18 күн бұрын
Bro fr like why did happy (if you mean their post) sound so proud of not boycotting for palestine? Congrats you support children being put in horrible situations children should never be in do you want a cookie? Also the thing about people with autism annoying them, as someone who has quite a lot of friends who have autism and may also be on the spectrum it sounds so vile to hear someone speak so openly and proudly about thinking they’re annoying
@moribat
@moribat Ай бұрын
The way she (HappyLikeAWall) refers to some people as "specimens" is so offputting , could just be me , but it sounds gross and dehumanizing.
@dillydraws
@dillydraws Ай бұрын
She does that alot.
@felix.washere
@felix.washere 25 күн бұрын
it's giving redditor nihilist tbh. dont let that stale bread make you feel intimidated. granted you're a much better person than she is lol
@obnoxious_efe420
@obnoxious_efe420 19 күн бұрын
It sounds like she's talking about an scp or something
@NobleCloverVA
@NobleCloverVA Ай бұрын
People before the premiere: I PREDICT THAT SHE'LL SLANDER SOMEONE AS A PDF FILE 😤
@seandorama5932
@seandorama5932 Ай бұрын
Welp. They were right XD, maybe them and AWall really can predict the future lol
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
I think it was just one person from what I saw
@tabithapritt6895
@tabithapritt6895 Ай бұрын
​@@seandorama5932 She didn't slander anyone as a pedo, did you even watch the video? Where did she even say label someone as a pedo?
@akopsing5863
@akopsing5863 Ай бұрын
@@tabithapritt6895 Care to explain why her fans have been raiding her discord for the past couple of days screaming PEDO and N-WORD then?
@tabithapritt6895
@tabithapritt6895 Ай бұрын
@@akopsing5863 First, I didn't have information about this until now. And second, that's on the fans for raiding the server, you never said Stream was involved in the actual raid.
@GyaruTobii
@GyaruTobii Ай бұрын
I actually hate happylikeawall so much finally someone gets why they're so insufferable
@NebulaBubbles
@NebulaBubbles Ай бұрын
she always rubbed me the wrong way
@HeeHungersForHos
@HeeHungersForHos Ай бұрын
This entire video is lies.
@pasteldemon_
@pasteldemon_ 29 күн бұрын
​@@NebulaBubblesfound out about her independently from this video a few days ago, IMMEDIATELY the vibes were off, genuinely how hard is it for a person to be just... normal
@David-qw5vr
@David-qw5vr 13 күн бұрын
being in her discord server is as insufferable as politics lmao
@BumbleBoi8
@BumbleBoi8 Ай бұрын
I do very much understand my actions of what I did those two years ago, of course I deleted those NSFW channels and stopped interacting with those kinds of accounts, I am trying to improve myself from my past and what I have done. I am just really tired of this drama and I'm honestly very thankful that you've covered this, spy has been taking a lot of stuff I have said or images out of context just so she can make herself look better I have also been getting help on the suggestive stuff since I'm really used to drawing that kind of stuff I have been trying to tone it down from the things that I have been drawing, and I have been taking inspiration from mostly other artists and not those 2 fuckwads, I understand I shouldn't have been in those NSFW spaces or even those kinds of spaces I'm also sorry that you got dragged into this dumb drama. I also did explain in my document that yes I was a grooming victim before, which made me turn into the hypersexual that I am now, I am trying to work on myself and all this drama and crap but it's really hard when people are busting in my ears about stuff that I'm trying to ignore or just not pay attention to because I really don't want to get into it again. (I see happy in the comments)
@cantalnoise
@cantalnoise Ай бұрын
Didn’t anyone reply, so I hope you’re doing much better now! ❤
@malaksafa4074
@malaksafa4074 Ай бұрын
All the best on your healing journey!
@Vazspla
@Vazspla Ай бұрын
Hopefully you are doing much better now
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly Ай бұрын
We forgive you! ❤
@perkhunter_craig2304
@perkhunter_craig2304 28 күн бұрын
Hey at least you’re getting the help and improvement you need, good job❤
@maelinkz
@maelinkz Ай бұрын
animation meme community try not to harass minors challenge
@TaikoUtau
@TaikoUtau Ай бұрын
Is that Zuzu?
@maelinkz
@maelinkz Ай бұрын
@@TaikoUtau ?? what lol
@TaikoUtau
@TaikoUtau Ай бұрын
@@maelinkz I saw your ink theory pfp and got happy
@obnoxious_efe420
@obnoxious_efe420 19 күн бұрын
Impossible diff
@blaster_main
@blaster_main 12 күн бұрын
BASED INK THEORY PFP
@I_missthesage
@I_missthesage Ай бұрын
Oh god it’s the Sashley drama all over again
@prosperosmoon
@prosperosmoon Ай бұрын
That name sent me back 😭
@David-qw5vr
@David-qw5vr Ай бұрын
I totally forgot about that oh my god
@moonrabbit719
@moonrabbit719 Ай бұрын
The closest type of drama I had been familiar with regarding unknownspy was through a mutual of mine on Instagram, who said that she had accused them of copying her SOLEY because they had an alien oc who had antennae BARELY resembling her oc sploot. The character in question didn't even REMOTELY look like Spy's character (it was a completely different color palette and had hair and a different body shape) yet Spy went out to message this person and demanded they change the design. They were, again, a way smaller artist than Spy. Seeing how Spy has addressed this whole situation, I am not surprised.
@QuaraSanssgirl
@QuaraSanssgirl Ай бұрын
Is there any proof of this?? Like screenshots or a post I can look at? Im very curious to see this
@muffinghostie
@muffinghostie Ай бұрын
@@moonrabbit719 this also happened with my friend who took inspiration from sploot with their alien oc(different color pallet and outfit even though spy try to use it that as a point as well??). Sploot is just a green alien with big round antenna with an optional tail. It’s not like sploot is that original either if we are talking solely about the base design 😭
@Lolgun2
@Lolgun2 Ай бұрын
honestly im not surprised, have been a part of a previous drama where unknownspy made a whole doc about a friend of mine known as Zoethemonster, when she was young and had a developmental disorder, and the reason she was called out was based first only on her copying unknownspy's characters (which is normal for young developing artist) then spiraled out into a whole drama with several out of context screenshots and claims. And my friend was harassed so much she has legit developed ptsd that she is still to this day dealing with, constantly being worried she is copying other's characters by accident or that her characters are too similar to the characters of unknownspy. Edit: forgot to add also that this happened a few years back, when unknownspy was mainly doing the whole program world thing
@Litchinensis
@Litchinensis Ай бұрын
I used to follow Spy when this happened and I remembered feeling so confused to why the doc was long. 💀 I hope your friend heals from this. The art community can be very discouraging to young beginner artists.
@Lolgun2
@Lolgun2 Ай бұрын
@@Litchinensis yea I agree with you there, she is still healing from the process, luckily most of the drama is over but there are still some traces of it with people who still believe her to be a copycat
@patheticghost7853
@patheticghost7853 Ай бұрын
I remember this! I remember In the discord group chat of Spy saying that the photo mood board collage Zoe made wasn’t ‘art’ or somethin??? (can’t exactly remember). And I defended saying that the collage is her creation, a combination of images to create something new/ an effect (my actual opinion) . I talked to her again for the first time in 4 years (I was a really shy and busy person) after my discord account got hacked for a while I had to delete links and I apologised. We talked, She was a nice person, mentioning about university, how she improved her art, etc.
@Lolgun2
@Lolgun2 Ай бұрын
@@patheticghost7853 yea zoe is a really nice person in reality, really sucks how she had to go through all the stuff with spy, really hope that more people realize how wrong spy really was
@Litchinensis
@Litchinensis Ай бұрын
@patheticghost7853 Okay but fr tho wtf Spy yapping about moodboards not being "art"💀 at that point she's just bullshitting because moodboards are meant for gathering images to create a specific theme. 🤦
@JW-no8yb
@JW-no8yb Ай бұрын
Since there’s an 80% chance Happy’s gonna see this as she looks for comments to argue with, lemme say something real quick: Happy, relentlessly searching for all the comments criticizing you and your statements to form obscenely long and draining rebuttals against them for an undetermined amount of time doesn’t make you look like the bigger person, it makes you look insecure, petty, and obsessed. You know that, right?
@CandyinjectionX
@CandyinjectionX Ай бұрын
When the random e-celeb you dislike just for being dumb and annoying and unfunny is finally outed for a legitimate reason to dislike them
@Ash-wf6me
@Ash-wf6me 24 күн бұрын
idk why but i found the sploot stuff very weird and off putting plus I saw them bully a smaller youtuber into taking down their vid before for no reason
@TheOneThatLurks
@TheOneThatLurks Ай бұрын
Spy is whining about others "copying their art style" when they don't own it because an art style is for self-expression so their literally just saying "Stop expressing yourself this way!!!" as if the kids are claiming that they invented the art style when nobody did. Spy needs to get off the internet and stop acting like a clown and realize that as an adult they need to take responsibility for their actions.
@Tanyiishka
@Tanyiishka Ай бұрын
I genuinely hate it when adults bully children, literally WHYYY😭😭😭 "they copied me!!!" And then they show a kid inspired by them, like cmon
@generalkudzu8362
@generalkudzu8362 Ай бұрын
Unknown spy put a bad taste in my mouth about a year before the drama had kicked off so I didn’t even know this happened. But somehow. Im unsurprised. The way they constantly complain about people comparing their art to other media is… well. To put it like this, you have someone drawing what looks like sonic, several dozen people comment ‘Oh this looks like sonic! Cool!’ And then that someone gets mad about it. On the one hand I understand that as a popular artist, you’d want to see comments beyond the comparison. But on the other hand, you have a series of drawings with this sonic looking character that talks and dresses like sonic. So when you extend from your follower base, other people who don’t know your work but see it because its so popular are going to comment ‘Oh this looks like sonic, nice.’ The fact that this ire extends into other aspects like not wanting people to be ‘heavily inspired’ by their very unique art style, to not have their outfit challenges be made into the main outfits of ocs, or even making a whole body type sheet and not wanting it to be used as a base. Idk, maybe its just me, but the way that UnknownSpy and several people they surround themself with police how people interact with their content, makes a petty drama between Spy and Noi inevitable.
@Austin-LA
@Austin-LA Ай бұрын
What worse is spy is all most 30, like at that point spy shouldn't be acting like this. It's very childish
@generalkudzu8362
@generalkudzu8362 Ай бұрын
@@Austin-LA I’m not saying this is for sure, because its speculation. But with how comfortable they were in constantly contacting Noi, telling them to stop, makes me think Spy has done it multiple times before. This was the first time that someone wasn’t intimidated by the big mainstream senpai.
@Austin-LA
@Austin-LA Ай бұрын
@@generalkudzu8362 but my point at the end of the day, It shouldn't have been a thing to begin with. At a certain point in your life you should learn that being a child like this because a minor was "annoying" to you is petty and immature. Blocking is free and for adults to being this over and over again is ridiculous. I been online for 11+ years and this type of "drama" in the art community is old (I'm not mad at you, I'm just sick of seeing the same thing over and over)
@generalkudzu8362
@generalkudzu8362 Ай бұрын
@@Austin-LA Oh no I’m in the same boat. Time is a flat circle and nobody will learn from this unfortunately.
@StarMisura
@StarMisura Ай бұрын
For the “outfit challenge” thing it makes sense. She said people can get “inspired” but not just simply took the design and use it as their OC’s main outfit since if people do that, imagine how many OCs are gonna have the EXACT SAME outfit that other people OC’s have Other than that yea you’re right
@Patchouli.Knowledge.
@Patchouli.Knowledge. Ай бұрын
I'm so fucking stupid I didn't read the "unknown" part in the title and thought this was about tf2 😭😭
@neviemrobitsgooglom5142
@neviemrobitsgooglom5142 Ай бұрын
My favourite comment.
@weaponizedcornbread2604
@weaponizedcornbread2604 Ай бұрын
Why do I want to see a joke “drama” video of stream or someone “exposing” spy tf2 for idk sapping her drawing tablet or something
@FruitBowlProductions2319
@FruitBowlProductions2319 Ай бұрын
Based Comment
@Lactogentleman
@Lactogentleman Ай бұрын
It is ironic how some people advocate for banning children from the internet, despite the existence of examples where these creatures (WHO ARE GROWN), pull these stunts.
@superpandaidol_3
@superpandaidol_3 23 күн бұрын
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@MaliMalware
@MaliMalware Ай бұрын
You dare upload when I will be on a plane? Can’t believe you hate me specifically smh. (But also keen to hear about whatever nonsense you decided to bury yourself in today.)
@Wroar2020s
@Wroar2020s Ай бұрын
Did you watch the vid? In the plane?
@koen5727
@koen5727 Ай бұрын
"I do not believe in multiple genders" is just a really funny sentence no matter what side you're on lmao
@That_Russel_Pup
@That_Russel_Pup 28 күн бұрын
It’s so weird with or without context
@frootsnacc6790
@frootsnacc6790 19 күн бұрын
Yeah they're just casuallu ignoring history(Jewish scripture talks about four genders), culture(two spirit native Americans), and science(intersex people and people with rare chromosomes aside from XX and XY)
@Vex_Fleur
@Vex_Fleur Ай бұрын
THIS IS DRAMA?!? No, this isn't drama. This is both a crime (Considering no one is out here seeing if Noi the MINOR is exposing themselves) They're possibly being gr00med!!! As someone who was online gr00med (I was never out there with my age when I was younger but it was a convo I never started and exposed myself), just because a child acts "mature" doesn't mean anything. They're still VERY young, they have a long way to go. Unknownspy is actively stalking and potentially exposing more gr00mers to Noi's way!! I've been a spectator in the Animation meme community for A LONG WHILE. This is just Sashley and more artist "drama" all over again, even people who were young during when the animation meme community when it was popular took it MORE like an actual adult than an adult who made soft p-word and just harassing a minor who yes, is a little sh-t and exposed other minors but ALSO THEMSELVES?!? I'm about to rip out my hair if I see another pose or outfit "theft". People like them need to learn better.
@cable_g0re
@cable_g0re Ай бұрын
UnknownSpy has been giving me bad vibes for the past few years so im not entirely surprised theres drama now DX
@rosebud8027
@rosebud8027 Ай бұрын
unrelated but OMG EDDIE PFP!!!!!
@rosegolden8959
@rosegolden8959 Ай бұрын
Same! Just get spidey senses for this kinda sh
@cable_g0re
@cable_g0re Ай бұрын
​@@rosebud8027 YES THANK YOU OMG
@xXVi0letDustXx
@xXVi0letDustXx 8 күн бұрын
btw Happy was defending one artist, who drew NSFW art with Frisk, Chara and Kris. The post was deleted (or not? idk), but I remember she said something like "Drawing fictional minors is not a territory I'd personally enter but calling her a p3d0 over is disgusting and overshadows actual p3dos and their victims", like- uh WDYM?? (Of course I could be wrong, but this is really weird)
@purrpletiger2159
@purrpletiger2159 22 күн бұрын
FINALLY someone calling out unknownspy for leaving "not for kids" videos up alongside videos for kids. I used to follow unknownspy and even had a conversation on DA with them about their animation process, I really liked their older character designs (i remember a big favorite of mine was the power button character) but I quickly shyed away from their content when they got super suggestive on main. I'm ace and averse so thats just not my vibe, and I worried about it not being age restricted or having an (age)+ in the title...
@LeaveItToLammy
@LeaveItToLammy Ай бұрын
I find it "funny" when adults get mad when children on the internet do something incredibly minor that could just be solved by reporting and blocking said children
@classyserpent8778
@classyserpent8778 Ай бұрын
I find funny when you shits can't take responsibility, but you are still developing. Can't judge your immaturity too harshly
@Thiscatinmypfo
@Thiscatinmypfo Ай бұрын
... Or we could solve this by stop downgrading the risks of minors on the internet, truly making it a public topic that deserves attention from society, discussing more efficient solutions and educate parents to reinforce their attention to monitoring what their children are doing in the internet. But any topic that envolves Parental responsability is a taboo or aproached with competitive intention by media
@iikoifishii7893
@iikoifishii7893 Ай бұрын
@@ThiscatinmypfoAgreed, but also do you think that how this scenario was dealt with was a proper way to do that?
@Thiscatinmypfo
@Thiscatinmypfo Ай бұрын
@@iikoifishii7893 I think it was inevitable when you take everything that happened into context and that if we truly want to prevent it from happening again. We must take the issue to people capable of raising awareness and not making a highly biased video about it, Streamline Ignored a series of details to convey information that she wants to believe in. This video doesn't really have an educational purpose and the way she expressed will do nothing but create two sides pointing fingers at each other which I believe was immensely irresponsible on her part as well. Again, while i believe that teenagers shouldnt respond to their actions the same way adults do, that doesnt mean they will not one day receive the consequences of their actions if they're not stopped in time, that's why the role of relatives is for, protecting children from themselves. Scenarios like Roi's never go down well and create people like King from discord. Personally im glad that Roi's actions were brought into light initially but I was immensely disappointed when no one gave a damn and now they are accusing the person who brought it up of harassment instead of paying attention to the essential point that, EVERYONE, misssed. That is to learn from this and make this a public issue that deserves society's attention.
@iikoifishii7893
@iikoifishii7893 Ай бұрын
@@Thiscatinmypfo I don’t think that’s true, people keep saying that stream didn’t have evidence for things and I’m not denying that, but one , I’ve yet to see evidence that truly invalidates her main point. Either way it is HIGHLY hypocritical for happy to talk about this scenario, and if not that it’s also super irresponsible for you to push all the blame on someone who you believe to be a victim, and if you ARE gonna do it right, atleast call out the ACTUAL ADULTS who are letting it happen as well.. (whom should be TEN TIMES MORE AS RESPONSIBLE) idc about the “copying” of art, and streamline not once says that Roi shouldn’t be held accountable to the fact that falsely accusing people of pædophili@ is wrong.
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly Ай бұрын
As an Agender person, Happy's transmedicalist bs is making me pull my hair out.
@mummifiedbutterfly
@mummifiedbutterfly Ай бұрын
49:29 "trans specimen" is dehumanizing af. Happy needs to go touch grass.
@frootsnacc6790
@frootsnacc6790 Ай бұрын
@@mummifiedbutterflyHow hard was it for her to just say trans people...like it costs 0 dollars to be respectful
@emoth
@emoth Ай бұрын
I am sick and tired of people blaming kids for being groomed. Same thing happened with Sashley. People who think this way disgust me
@dorkyentity
@dorkyentity Ай бұрын
literally this whole situation: there is only one thing worse than a possible groomer. boom spy and happy: a child *NO*
@new_username4733
@new_username4733 Ай бұрын
28:04 More on this, UnknownSpy's suggestive content was how I found them. And I was younger than I am now. UnknownSpy did not try to age restrict content or anything, it was all there to see. Preaches children should not be seeing this stuff and that it's dangerous when his content was available.. For kids to see...
@angelicdonuts
@angelicdonuts Ай бұрын
The midpoint conversation of unknown spy and their suggestive art influencing kids hits... a little too hard :( I was a fan of them, having found them on youtube in the animation meme community, but things really happened when I got instagram for the first time, and I'm pretty sure it was around that time when they started to post some of their really suggestive stuff, unless they had the entire time and I never realized (i found them originally from just their flame guy and other non-heavily sexualized characters). And mind you at the time, I was a 11-12 who didn't know any better and overrun with hormones, and given literally none of unknown's shit is censored in any which way, inevitably, being exposed to their contend ended up really affecting me and influencing my own art and what kind of art I would make. They became a terrible idol to me and while I drew just some cool looking guys, all the women I drew were absolutely not treated the same, all of which were heavily sexualized with big chests and wide hips. Of course, I also became more "experimental" with the poses I drew and such. And yet, I feel so blessed to be able to say that I never exposed much of this content, or at least not that I remember, and luckily I was not popular either, only having about 200 followers with only 10% of that being people who actually interacted with my content let alone me. But I know no experience is original, so my heart goes out to anyone who might've gone down the less ideal path of my situation themself.
@classyserpent8778
@classyserpent8778 Ай бұрын
And how long were you someone who didn't know any better. Gonna really look someone in the eye and stand by saying ' I had zero idea what I was looking at was inappropriate.' Should I start to assume anyone young is stupid asf then? This is like a crack head trying to blame his dealer like they didn't know it was addictive
@operlix7750
@operlix7750 Ай бұрын
​​@classyserpent8778 They were... an 11 year old. Do not put the blame on them, jc And yes, kids are pretty dumb sometimes. They will make decisions that aren't well thought because their brain isn't fully developed. They aren't stupid, but being exposed to something from a young age will alter your thinking
@theartofthefart3244
@theartofthefart3244 12 күн бұрын
@@classyserpent8778 holy shit this was the most horrible response. Kids are dumb. Kids are impressionable. Kids often do things and emulate adults because the adults present that as BEING OK to do. If a nsfw artist doesn’t censor their work, tag it, anything to prevent kids finding it, they’re gonna find it. ESPECIALLY if they’re dumb teenager kids coked up on horny hormones. >:V A lot of kids think that sort of stuff is OK to find on the internet, and if they don’t, often they only think it’s bad at worst because “mom and dad say no, so I’m gonna do it because I’m a REBEL.” Most kids/teens don’t know jack doodly about law or criminal acts, or understand anything about predators. You might be the special gem of a human who wasn’t stupid or easy to manipulate as a kid, and I’m not denyong that those kinds of “smart common sense kids” DON’T exist, but I can tell you that a lot of kids are NOT like you. Knowledge and experience comes with time and age, not everyone’s gonna learn stuff like you do, as fast as you do. Get some perspective, and put down the axe you’re trying to beat that person with.
@xenomorphbannana4788
@xenomorphbannana4788 Ай бұрын
Bro take away Happy's computer
@StudioHolocene
@StudioHolocene Ай бұрын
Tbh, I just feel like UnknownSpy kinda fell off. Don’t get me wrong she’s got a nice art style but the way her content has become oversexualized just decreased a lot of its quality and originality, nowadays her content is just “sexy girl UwU”
@QuaraSanssgirl
@QuaraSanssgirl Ай бұрын
It's super obvious to tell who in the comments came from happy's poisoned well of a twitter account. 👀
@internetuser9667
@internetuser9667 Ай бұрын
so basically a teen is being a little shit and an adult is overreacting when they could've just ignored this whole situation
@Deg40000
@Deg40000 Ай бұрын
That’s what I kept thinking about throughout the entire doc like why didn’t Spy just block the child instead from the beginning? It was pretty obvious that the kid was only doing that out of spite
@strxwb_media
@strxwb_media Ай бұрын
This entire drama feels like a mix of the Sashley, Madame and Tearzah drama in separate aspects. Like- can older figures with large fucking audiences not start shit with literal minors even if they're being instead of what Spy is doing? I haven't even heard of Spy until this drama, and im just disappointed in Spy for being this hypocritical.
@Loading_mo-fi
@Loading_mo-fi 25 күн бұрын
Holy Moly brother wow, what a video. As an avid Unknownspy fan for pretty much my entire digital art career, this is a crazy situation and it's insane how immature LITERAL ADULTS could be when dealing with children using your work and compositions for inspiration and trying to hone their skills. I've always known Spy's egotistic behavior (if you would like to call it that) when it comes to her art and style. I remember her telling somebody on her Discord server to credit her because they used a base as a reference for their art (not tracing but just using it as a guide on the side) and I was just really confused and was like "You don't own an art style???". I find it really petty and concerning that they literally care more about a kid taking heavy inspiration in their art than their overall online safety and wellbeing. I will quote one of my friends with a similar situation they had which is literally: "Honestly don't really give a shit, people like this are everywhere" "and they gotta look up to ur art to have the motive to trace it so I think that's cool" and it's just baffling that Spy can't just have this attitude, it's more positive and overall, you should not care, it's not like they're stealing your audience away, it's just useless to blow it up to such a degree. I notice that Spy overall is a very protective person of her art and takes offense if people take heavy references or even make comparison comments. I understand that these comments are annoying, but at least do the right thing and just ignore them and don't take them to that personal of a level, and in all honesty, I'm surprised she never DMed me talking about me having a character inspired by her art (probably cuz my art now is WAYY different and the design isn't clearly referencing her art) but nonetheless, she needs to have a better way of dealing with these types of situations instead of giving them mass attention. I'm not gonna mention Happy since they're just ridiculous and I'm just focusing more on Spy. Overall this was a very well made video! I sincerely hope that the people involved (including their fans) take these criticisms to heart and actually change their ways, but it's the internet, I may be asking for too much LMAO
@nuggetpup
@nuggetpup Ай бұрын
I’m sorry, drama??? THERE IS DRAMA! GOD DAMN IT not againnnnn
@aliteralblueberry7837
@aliteralblueberry7837 Ай бұрын
Again???
@LuckyTheMotherFan
@LuckyTheMotherFan Ай бұрын
im sorry bestie but drama is always going to happen, every single day....
@vegitoblue4601
@vegitoblue4601 Ай бұрын
This ended months ago
@dyslexic_crab
@dyslexic_crab Ай бұрын
happy once said a relationship with a 15 year old and a 20 year old was ok and after I responded to that tweet of her and said that even if it not sexual it's still worng and after I posted a tweet saying that if anyone sees a tweet of me saying I like her art it was before she made that and that I was simply going to unfollow because I don't agree with the idea of 15 and 20 being together is ok, she blocked me for some reason even tho she never responded to me and it's was back when I only had like 300 followers I think
@ztdtlf9717
@ztdtlf9717 Ай бұрын
Back then that was encouraged crazy right? Doesn't mean it's right, the 15 and 20 year old can wait 3 or 4 years lmao
@LAWless_Nonsense
@LAWless_Nonsense Ай бұрын
@@ztdtlf9717 even waiting on the minor is creepy
@Dust_thats_all
@Dust_thats_all Ай бұрын
@@ztdtlf9717 I think that'd be really weird tho at that point, since it is literally just waiting for a minor to become an adult, to get into a relationship with them.
@dreamyfeffy
@dreamyfeffy Ай бұрын
This entire situation just could’ve been prevented if: 1. The minor was encouraged not to be in NSFW spaces + BLOCKED 2. UnknownSpy and Happy understand that people will be inspired by their work 3. Understand that the animation meme community is made of LITERAL CHILDREN and separate their SFW and NSFW Not to mention UnknownSpy is kind of a hypocrite in terms of “oh they keep stealing my ideas” in terms of “outfit theft” because she makes outfit month challenges that anybody can use as inspo. This whole thing is a mess
@viscerazombie
@viscerazombie 20 күн бұрын
dude, yes. its so easy to say "well they shouldnt be interacting with it in the first place" and thats true, but kids arent gonna understand WHY they arent allowed to. even if they know theyre not supposed to, if a kid wants something, theyre gonna find a way to get it. at that point its up to the account owners to block them so they cant *continue* interacting
@dreamyfeffy
@dreamyfeffy 20 күн бұрын
@@viscerazombie Yeah that’s true that’s true. At the end of the day it’s up to them to block minors and lock adult content because if they’re gonna say stuff like “who’s gonna protect the adults? :(“ they gotta make it a lot harder for minors to find it
@avery2041
@avery2041 28 күн бұрын
I've seen several artists with spy's "style", the sharp & mostly blocky look. If this child bugged her so much she really should've simply blocked them.
@callme_navi
@callme_navi Ай бұрын
"who going to protect the adults?" as a 13 years old i am shock that a full grown women said that out loud. this whole drama is super dumb tbh edit: im going to talk about this drama more cuz last night i couldn't. but i think spy should've just block noi or just confronted noi in a private chat instead of calling him out when all he did is "copy pose/character" but in actual reality is all inspiration which spy should've have some sympathy for and also linking all his social media account is super immature harassing is never the answer. and Happy should instead see noi as also a victim and tell him why is wrong to be in adults space and drawing NSFW but NOPE let make a video blaming it all on the kid! it not like the ADULT could've pressure him to do this! like- seriously? and also i do NOT stand side for anyone in this drama is all stupid and very immature.
@skysiren4113
@skysiren4113 Ай бұрын
To me Spy has a ego problem, while I do think Noy is far from a saint himself, Spy comes across like she's more butt hurt that he's taking inspiration from her rather then the alleged harassment. I find the "pose theft" argument to be especially silly, no one owns a specific pose, it be like if someone accused an artist of stealing their drawing because they did a hand on the hip pose (one of the most common poses to draw) Not only that but Spy (a 27 year old) should've known that encouraging her fans to basically harass him (a 16 year old) would've end badly. Not only is it an abuse of power over your fans, but when stuff similar to this happened before, the person on the receiving end were send threats, abuse and even in extreme cases doxxed (just look at what happened to Illymation) Spy could've put someone in legit danger all because she couldn't just blocked him and wanted to be seen as the victim
@akiraohalloran
@akiraohalloran Ай бұрын
The only point I disagree with is Unknownspy having to remove any of their suggestive works, as they still post suggestive animations and art to this day. They label themselves as not for kids so I'm unsure where the idea they were becoming more family friendly came from.
@chromaticmono6406
@chromaticmono6406 Ай бұрын
Recently spy made their main mascot sploot a lot more pg than what they used to be. That could’ve been what stream was referring to, but regardless your point still stands
@randoexpresso1105
@randoexpresso1105 Ай бұрын
I think it’s more of the fact they are in a community commonly is known to have children. It’s not a surprise that the “meme” community has children. And spy has their works with easy access and suggestive. So it’s not too far fetch to be critical of Spy especially since their works are in a child’s space even if they label themselves as not for kids. One has to be mindful of these things.
@akiraohalloran
@akiraohalloran Ай бұрын
@@randoexpresso1105 I disagree with animation memes being purely a child's space, there's plenty of adult animators that are in that sphere that use it for practice. There are a lot of suggestive, gorey, and sometimes down right triggering content that are animation memes. If it says not for kids that's all the creator can really do, you can't control an audience beyond that.
@randoexpresso1105
@randoexpresso1105 Ай бұрын
@@akiraohalloran so would you say a fandom, such as MLP, that DOES have gore and adult content is now not made with the soul purpose to be only for kids? Now that this content exist it’s only for adults or for all ages now? t’s just a fact that a large majority of animation memes are made by and for children. No disagreeing will unfortunately change that fact. You can say that there are older content creators out there, I’m not disagreeing with that. But to not acknowledge that a fandom is made of mostly children and make content that is easy to access or say that you disagree of people having criticism of a content creator not being more mindful of this fact is disingenuous. Going to edit this bc I can feel ppl are going to assume things: I do agree tagging is important and is the responsible thing for a creator to do. My comment is so acknowledge and accept the fact that if a adult creator is going to make content in a space made up of mostly children they HAVE to be really careful and mindful. And the truth is. A lot of meme creators are not. So, it’s not surprising that people DO have grievances with them. And it’s a fact that at the end of the day a large part of animation memes where made mostly by and for children.
@akiraohalloran
@akiraohalloran Ай бұрын
@@randoexpresso1105 But animation memes are broad in comparison to a fandom, and I've only personally ever seen it created by adults like Yeager, Sir Fluff, Beautysnake, Wingedwolf94, Roxxy, and the list could go on. I don't think it's fair to say it's made by children exclusively when there's so many adult animators that have made it their living and have even created their own original memes for other's to copy. I will never see the animation meme community for children only when it's so vast. It's like gatekeeping animation all together for children for how vast it is. It's not something that is intended for kids like MLP because it doesn't have a soul creator/s, it's a layout. The layout being, animate your character to music, that's so broad. I've been watching animation memes since childhood, looking up to the adults, granted they're are somethings I probably shouldn't have watched but there were warnings and I just didn't listen, that's on me not them.
@Tokomaris_Hex
@Tokomaris_Hex 6 күн бұрын
Why can’t people hold kids/teenagers accountable while also treating them like they’re fucking kids/teenagers? If you’re an adult it is YOUR responsibility to respond maturely to a child. Not the other fucking way around. Christ.
@snaps_and_caps
@snaps_and_caps Ай бұрын
Happy is somehow the worst person to be smacked in this situation. Im sorry, but if this grown ass woman blocks me on Twitter and bans me from her discord for a meme drawing, she shouldn't be handling drama in the first place LMAO.
@SpaceySodaPop
@SpaceySodaPop Ай бұрын
Wow, that’s really messed up Jesus. What was the meme drawing in the first place?
@snaps_and_caps
@snaps_and_caps Ай бұрын
@@SpaceySodaPop Its a DRAWING OF MY OC SAYING “YOU DROPPED THIS” AND THEY WERE HOLDING A CARD THAT SAID “INTERWEB LIAR CLOWN CARD” i posted it to joke, swift ban and block 💀
@SpaceySodaPop
@SpaceySodaPop Ай бұрын
@@snaps_and_caps Goddamn 😭 I guess she thought it was about this situation, eek.
@snaps_and_caps
@snaps_and_caps Ай бұрын
@@SpaceySodaPop tbh the joke was that the oc was a computer virus but then again i can admit im at fault for like...posting it on one of her "boo hoo yeah this CREATURE IS HORRID" posts because the only way I could really like, actually deal with this kinda stuff is joking 💀 I can at least admit I kinda did contribute
@obnoxious_efe420
@obnoxious_efe420 19 күн бұрын
I May not be a big fan of Ai but i think that you should make ai covers and train an Ai based with Happy's art work
@oneaccount1327
@oneaccount1327 28 күн бұрын
"Who's going to protect the adults?" They are going to protect themselves. Kids are ignorant and immature and require protecting because they are CHILDREN and they don't know any better. Even if they've done bad stuff they are still kids and they still need to be protected and I think gently educating kids isn't bad but if they get upset or something about it then attacking them still isn't right :/
@felix.washere
@felix.washere Ай бұрын
Are we gonna ignore the fact that spy is affiliated with the most bigoted person ALIVE and a *potential* predator???
@LiliannEnder
@LiliannEnder Ай бұрын
And possibly z!onist idk
@rosebud8027
@rosebud8027 Ай бұрын
this just reminded me of one time that Spy posted a drawing with blue and pink pastel characters and everyone in the comments was like "tee hee pink n blue like trans flag :3" and she got so upset at them for no reason lol.
@alphaxbox3728
@alphaxbox3728 Ай бұрын
And that would be?
@felix.washere
@felix.washere Ай бұрын
@alphaxbox3728 im gonna give you a good moment cuz im assuming you havent watched the full video
@TDisHere
@TDisHere Ай бұрын
​@@felix.washere Stream legit said in the video Happy was not a predator. It's not okay to still assume she is one when Stream literally said she isn't.
@jessargo
@jessargo Ай бұрын
Everybody sucks in this situation, but especially the adults. Like bro you are 27, why are you getting this mad at some stupid kid trolling you by copying your art. Literally just block them, it's that simple 💀 same with a kid being in an NSFW space, don't even talk to them or acknowledge them. Just block them and get a mod to kick them. This whole doc callout thing is ridiculous and needlessly dramatic.
@PawzfullofPixel
@PawzfullofPixel Ай бұрын
Me when a person i dont like gets called out for being a fucking idiot
@xeeko6389
@xeeko6389 Ай бұрын
Ill be honest, Spy doing this isnt surprising to me in the slightest. Now, this all happened over her IG story and i dont have ss for this, so take it with a grain of salt if you want... A while back, like 2018-19 or so, Spy posted to her story about how people were copying her oc Sploot. Some held water, only some, but even those were "Splootsonas" clearly made by young teens who looked up to her. Others were literally just inspired by her art and looked nothing like her character, and again, were clearly made by young teens. The worst part is that she posted the art these kids made to her story, some with names attached, to her IG audience of thousands saying "dont do this this. this is wrong." Now idk about you, but if my idol posted my art to their story saying "dont do this" id be devastated, especially if i was a young artist. Spy going after young artists who look up to her is nothing new.
@viscerazombie
@viscerazombie 20 күн бұрын
the thing with Sploot too is that theyre a very simple character design who's design is constantly changed between drawings such as different outfits, accessories, skin colors, and whether or not they have a tail. when your character is a generic little green alien with a purposefully inconsistent design i dont think you get to be angry when people are inspired by it. even if these kids were purposefully copying Sploot's design completely, the way Spy drew them could easily give the impression that making Sploot-like designs was encouraged. thats not to entirely say Spy isnt allowed to be upset when their work is copied to a T, but they definitely act super pretentious for someone who's most popular character is Green Alien With Antennae
@Cris-pd2rx
@Cris-pd2rx Ай бұрын
49:28 "trans specimen of the male to female Variant" I love the wording on that
@malaksafa4074
@malaksafa4074 Ай бұрын
Like ya your "never harrassed anyone claims" are defiantly still holding up bestie/sssss
@Cris-pd2rx
@Cris-pd2rx Ай бұрын
@@malaksafa4074 wut
@malaksafa4074
@malaksafa4074 Ай бұрын
@@Cris-pd2rx I meant for happylikeawall op-
@Cris-pd2rx
@Cris-pd2rx Ай бұрын
@@malaksafa4074 Albright
@nimbusky1919
@nimbusky1919 Ай бұрын
I watched Happy’s video (it’s 6 minutes so easy to get through) and yeah this is just a adult upset with a child being dumb on the internet
@timtin97
@timtin97 Ай бұрын
"who's gonna protect the adults!" oOOooOO the kid boogeyman is gonna bother you OOOOOooooOOO god its insane that these are the same people that came from the animation community which feels like the prime example of where kids be stupid for attention and shouldn't y'know, be given any more attention that could easily be lead to harassment
@HeeHungersForHos
@HeeHungersForHos Ай бұрын
There is a huge problem with minors going into adult spaces though.
@caramel9154
@caramel9154 Ай бұрын
@@HeeHungersForHos clearly you dont know WHY ITS A PROBLEM
@strawberrysixelashake3607
@strawberrysixelashake3607 Ай бұрын
Unknownspy is incredibly immature like, How are you gonna be part of the animation meme community and be upset by copying?? Nobody owns checkered backgrounds and characters with big feet. And artists gotta draw inspiration from somewhere. If it's not tracing I dont get what the big deal is lol
@kordacpz
@kordacpz Ай бұрын
when you make a video that pisses off a possee of gooners and proshippers , you did something right
@superpandaidol_3
@superpandaidol_3 23 күн бұрын
Not y’all dehumanizing and belittling kids in the comments😭😭😭😭 they’re humans too.
@HUEYYYYYY
@HUEYYYYYY Ай бұрын
I got so livid at the "countries outside America exist" bc like 😭 no duh? And im sure any other country with a lick of sanity when it comes to consent laws will be able to say that an adult and a child dating is NOT OKAY. I'm Romanian, Romania is a country in east europe and with full confidence I can say they are 30 years behind in development, but even my 40-something year old parents would CRINGE at the idea of a 17 yo no less a 15 yo dating a 20 yo
@weirddd469
@weirddd469 Ай бұрын
for real!! and might i add, people think too much about the age gap instead of the DIFFERENCE in these cases! for example, when it comes to 3 years between 17 yo and 20 yo, like that should not happen but the age gap is not a problem when it's between two ADULTS. At the end of the day i think it shouldn't be a hot take to say that it's fucked up to want a relationship with someone who isn't even an adult when you are starting your 20's :(
@HUEYYYYYY
@HUEYYYYYY Ай бұрын
@@weirddd469 EXACTLY OH MY GOD 😭🙏 people focus too much on the actual value of the number itself rather than the gap in maturity. I'm 15 now nearly 16 and I'd NEVER date a 14 y.o because of these maturity differences, just thinking back on myself last year vs me now is absolutely ENOUGH to make me cringe 😭🙏 I feel like ppl often forget and/or don't realize even one year can make a big difference in maturity level ESPECIALLY in teenagers like myself 😭🙏
@SpaceySodaPop
@SpaceySodaPop Ай бұрын
Yeah, like just because something is legal in another country, doesn’t mean there aren’t people in that country that are against it or that nobody can criticize it.
@SkruRot
@SkruRot Ай бұрын
37:48 "but, who's going to protect the adults?" I was very *very* wrong to think your video thumbnail was hyperbole 💀💀💀💀 oml
@hous3776
@hous3776 Ай бұрын
Finally someone said it.
@SpaceySodaPop
@SpaceySodaPop Ай бұрын
Off topic but cool to see you here! (I love your videos :D)
@klaus.sfc01official30
@klaus.sfc01official30 Ай бұрын
That a literal totally not NSFW artist makes a "call out" on a 16 year old and giving them the fault for interacting with pedos cuz they didn't know better while in the same breath dogpiling on them because they "stole art" also known as maybe just a small thing alot of artists do called *INSPIRATION* At best and acting like "oh no we adults don't want our lives ruined because of a shitty 16 year old" like they are the victim and don't know better just makes my blood boil. When the video first released i agreed with the message as i completly missunderstood what it was about due to me not being an native english speaker. I am happy that i got this video recommended to show me how i missunderstood the situation and how bad the actual video in fact is.
@scarlettthefox
@scarlettthefox Ай бұрын
Kinda stopped liking unknown spy when they started only posting softcore p-word all over their accounts. I was looking at that shit as a minor, not knowing that I shouldn't have been looking at it :\ It's not hard to keep adult content like that away from public spaces.
@MidnightCapricorn2696
@MidnightCapricorn2696 Ай бұрын
To make this worse: within Artfight last year, a thing about giving to others, they designed OCs for other people, didn't label them and then just took the designs when everyone was confused as to which design was theirs
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
Their animations have always had suggestive themes they activly put warnings on their content. Its not their fault if kids ignore it they even have their age limit on the account
@scarlettthefox
@scarlettthefox Ай бұрын
​@@alexisdied4558 it is. Take your point addiction elsewhere
@cassiopeia_mori
@cassiopeia_mori Ай бұрын
@@MidnightCapricorn2696 yeah, idrc abt the suggestive stuff as much (though i do wish they did put more content warnings on their stuff) but the art fight thing caused me to unsub and leave their content entirely for a more indepth explanation if people dont know: art fight is an event that happens every july. you send "attacks" to other artists that are just drawing their ocs. some people have a "make me an oc" 'character' where you can submit an attack where you make them a custom instead of drawing a diff oc that they have. spy decided to do a "mass attack" (an attack that includes multiple, and oftentimes MANY other people's characters) which are worth more points (since its two sides fighting, each attack gains points depending on how large and polished and timestaking it is). spy's mass attack was drawing customs for fifty-two people. however, none of them were labelled, it was essentially just 52 random characters in a grid, no label, no description, nothing. this attack got THOUSANDS of points all while spy never told the recipients who's was who's. the most insidious thing though was that AFTER THE SCORES WERE CALCULATED, meaning after they were set in stone, spy DELETED the attack. those points were not removed from the team's total since again, they'd been calculated. so she literally just led on over 50 people for no reason other than fake internet points. its not the worst thing someone can do evar!!1! but i just couldnt look at her content in the same way ever again
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
​@@scarlettthefoxno it is not its not a content creators job to babysit kids. They put thoes warning on to mention its not for kids. If kids overstep that thats not only stepping a boundary but thats on them
@weaponizedcornbread2604
@weaponizedcornbread2604 Ай бұрын
Who will protect the adults is now my number one contender for stupidest thing unironically said this decade
@Getalifepls
@Getalifepls Ай бұрын
Its pathetic because after this video I *think* they started talking about you and were STILL trying to paint you as a bad guy for not agreeing with them trying to get screenshots and stuff like that could possibly try to prove your bad or however in their discord💀 I'm just surprised how idiotic they are
@Getalifepls
@Getalifepls Ай бұрын
@Hellothere-h3i I'm not defending the fan base at all, if anything it's annoying. Though what I'm saying is instead of actively trying to ignore the fan base the server is trying to dig up past drama and trying to make Steam out to be a bad person when the video just shows a different opinion
@they3llowdaisy.
@they3llowdaisy. 23 күн бұрын
It’s always the artists I looked up to 😔😔 wondering what would have happened if I continued referencing Spy’s work ngl
@bellAa_akaPlusheen
@bellAa_akaPlusheen Ай бұрын
HUH??? WAIT THERE'S DRAMA??? FR????
@Mayashii90
@Mayashii90 Ай бұрын
Bro, I really liked Unknown Spy, I mean, when she started doing more suggestive stuff I started to be like "get out of my feed", now with this? Girl's acting like a 9 years old 💀
@derpkipper
@derpkipper Ай бұрын
This sounds like the kind of spat I would have (and prolly did) gotten into with my friends when I was 11
@LiliannEnder
@LiliannEnder Ай бұрын
I love it when people comment before they ever watched the video (heaviest sarcasm right here)
@mayas.9247
@mayas.9247 Ай бұрын
how did it not occur to unknown spy that this teenager was copying more and more because she kept interacting and reacting to it, if she had actually left it alone the kid would have moved on ages ago
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
How did unknown spy get into drama I love their work and they seem to do much but make animations and I think they even stopped NSFW for a bit
@zeeseven5501
@zeeseven5501 Ай бұрын
some kid copied spys work as well as harassed her out of spite. Spy called this person out to defend themselves after years of targeted harassment. the kid also drew nsfw as a minor to minors, traced other nsfw artists, and got banned on twitter because of harassment towards others I don't see why spy can't defend themselves against harassment, being a kid is not an excuse for this kind of behavior
@zeeseven5501
@zeeseven5501 Ай бұрын
like, this kid is an actual danger to other minors. as he let adults and groomers into his server filled with minors and nsfw art. i think adults should be responsible for calling out bad and dangerous behavior towards children and not let minors act like this just because they're minors. Noi, the kid in question, is a danger for himself and other minors. And spy was calling out this bad behavior as they were targeted by him
@Nova_The_Second
@Nova_The_Second Ай бұрын
Zee is out here being silenced and still spitting facts. Thank you for bringing more light to this situation that a certain someone is cherrypicking info from to push their narrative.
@NWRNo.17Misery
@NWRNo.17Misery Ай бұрын
@@zeeseven5501fax my brother, spit your s**t indeed
@alexisdied4558
@alexisdied4558 Ай бұрын
​@@zeeseven5501yeah i fully agree im 15 myself and i can proudly say i have never harrassed someone online. Calling someone out kid or not is still important to let them know their actions are awful. I honestly thought the drama was maybe someone trying to cancel them for making suggestive animation and blaming them for kids seeing it
@Gustyguy
@Gustyguy Ай бұрын
Unknown spy and happy is literally the ded6/sok of the art community.
@squid_koolaid
@squid_koolaid 18 күн бұрын
“Who’s gonna protect the adults!?!” THEMSELVES??Adults are literally fully developed and know so much compared to children??? Honestly happy is so annoying for thinking like that, what do you mean who’s gonna protect the adults adults should know how to protect themselves by ATLEAST the age of 20, 25 or even 30
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