The Unmade 1997 Venom Movie

The Unmade 1997 Venom Movie - Canned Goods

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In 1997, David S. Goyer delivered a draft for a Venom movie to New Line Cinema. Dolphin Lundgren was heavily rumored to play Eddie Brock.
The film, bears a shocking resemblance to Venom’s 2018 debut film, chief of which is it’s lack of Spider-Man in the story due to film rights. It also made strange deviations, for example, Eddie (spelled ‘Eddy’ in the script) is a wiry wimp.
In the end, the film went unmade, never officially being cancelled, but more so being forgotten about.
So join us today as we break down the development, plot, and cancellation of the 1997 draft of Venom.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:34 Venom 1997’s Development
01:26 Venom 1997 Script Plot Breakdown
12:29 Why Did Venom 1997 Get Cancelled?
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@starzariaguy5151 2 жыл бұрын

This version doesn’t sound that bad, but then I imagine how bad the 90s CGI would’ve been.

@deadschooled 2 жыл бұрын

Did you see the trailer for venom 2…? Probably better than that…….

@nick6var 2 жыл бұрын

90s CGI like the Spawn film? 😁

@starzariaguy5151 2 жыл бұрын

@@nick6var. Yeah, basically.

@SpinosaurusStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Considering the fact we got Godzilla 1998 at the same time (Thanks Sony), and compared to the CGI used in Hulk's 2004 film, it would have been horrendous or badly animated. The CGI for him wasn't ready, and barely was when Spiderman 3 came out.

@Prime92 2 жыл бұрын

It would probably be more like the Spawn movie in the 90's.

@Shift_Salt 2 жыл бұрын

"Carnage turns his hand into a shotgun" Okay ya lost me, but go on

@blazing_thunder1829 2 жыл бұрын

When did carnage can change his hand into a gun and Sharp weapon and venom only create spike from his body

@markmagician2471 2 жыл бұрын

@@blazing_thunder1829 I dont know when Venom could do that with sharp weapons? Only Carnage could do that

@scatterbrainedreviews 2 жыл бұрын

I had to rewind to make sure I heard that right

@AxisChurchDevotee 2 жыл бұрын

Carnage can shoot deadly shrapnels so a shotgun like attack isn't unreasonable.

@nova-jo1649 2 жыл бұрын

@@AxisChurchDevotee exactly

@Danbo22987 2 жыл бұрын

It's insane how popular Venom was at this time that he almost got a movie before Spider-Man...

@gambeano 2 жыл бұрын

Yea thats why I can understand why Avi Arad railroaded Raimi so hard and his script for spiderman 3 to have him in it. Ironically that tanked venoms popularity for a bit 😆

@loganwithlightsabers3051 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t even know how the producers or the studio would even be able to comprehend the concept of a solo Venom movie without Spider-Man especially in the 90s sounds too crazy for them

@Danbo22987 2 жыл бұрын

@@gambeano I mean the problems with Venom in that movie were easy fixes if Raimi had bothered to actually read a Venom comic

@erikcamacho1 2 жыл бұрын

@@Danbo22987 kinda. But not really. He had to adjust the venom to the story that he wanted to do. They literally put venom in a story that was never intended to include him. And had to not put too much attention on him. Give venom enough writing to make the studios happy and enough writing to tell the original story.

@raulmendez1568 2 жыл бұрын

@@loganwithlightsabers3051 And yet that’s we got with Venom’s solo movie. No Spider-Man.

@Shift_Salt 2 жыл бұрын

Cassidy jumping to his death because he needs the symbiote is also pretty similar to Eddie getting himself killed in Spider-Man 3.

@mitchellshuttleworth3204 2 жыл бұрын

Before the first Venom movie came out, I was under the assumption that you simply couldn't have Venom without Spider-Man. The two are inseparable and completely linked together. I guess (going on pre-release mind here) a solo Venom movie could work if they did a Spider-Man film with the black suit and Eddie surviving until the end. But that was before the first Venom movie came out, and in my opinion they pulled it off perfectly. I really enjoyed this first draft, I think the reason for its similarities with what we got must've been from executives dusting off the older script and updating it. We'll never know but if you ask me this could have been one Lethal Protector of a film.

@sammalone7881 2 жыл бұрын

Venom's been around without Spidey plenty of times to sucessful results. He's even been a Guardian of the Galaxy.

@elviejomonca4719 2 жыл бұрын

I honestly still think that Venom needs Spidey for his origin... This would be my ideal set up: - Introduce the symbiote and Eddie in 1 movie, but have Spider-Man wear the suit for basically the whole movie till the very end, developing his story with the symbiote as the main plot and his conflict with Eddie as a sub plot. In the end Peter ditches the symbiote and it attaches to Eddie, ending the movie in a cliffhanger. - Have the next movie be focused on Spidey vs Venom, but also begin paving the way for Eddie becoming the lethal protector. The movie would end with Venom realizing that they could do more than just antagonize Spidey with their new found abilities, going on to their own adventure but promising they will face the web head again someday. - That would be the beginning of the Venom movie series

@TheDailyGlobe922 2 жыл бұрын

@@elviejomonca4719 if he’s just going to ditch it in the original there’s no need to do it for the movies either. All of you have hundreds of Spider-Man remakes with the same origin for Venom. I prefer him doing something solo

@lostgempictures4315 2 жыл бұрын

It probably would of linked to James Cameron’s Spider-Man

@Pat315 2 жыл бұрын

Venom was a horrible movie. If you enjoyed it your brain must be fried.

@au6769 2 жыл бұрын

I always wanted a Venom film in the 90s, directed by James Cameron, in the style of Alien, with the guy who played Kyle Reese in Terminator as Eddie Brock. It would be an action/horror/sci-fi film but Eddie would still make goofy jokes to himself like in the comics (in typical 90s fashion). Sort of like Die Hard with a lot of suspenseful horror moments.

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

I love this idea.

@au6769 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ thanks haha, if I ever learn computer animation like I’ve always wanted I’d love to make a version for youtube somehow

@diegolorente8435 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ Can you do Doetor Who Meets Scratchman There’s a good are you video idea

@revolution_is_my_name8981 2 жыл бұрын

James Cameron almost made a Spider-Man move. It was, uh... very raunchy

@at-rexontheinternet1388 2 жыл бұрын

Oh hey I met that guy once

@arachnidcomics6404 2 жыл бұрын

Having the symbiote be attached to a spider like alien to explain why Venom has Spidey's powers is honestly so simple and perfect that it makes no sense why Sony didn't do it for their solo film. Still though, having Venom be his own conscience and speaking to Eddie while also having a love/hate dynamic was one of the few things the films got right. Haven't seen Let There Be Carnage yet but I hope it's better than the first.

@plushiesdx 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair you're the first I've heard suggest this. Whenever other people think of how Venom can be without Spider-Man they come up blank

@TheDailyGlobe922 2 жыл бұрын

@@plushiesdx false. There have been numerous and plenty of examples people have been giving for a Venom solo movie or ideas. Comic writer Donny Cates even made venom some lore that doesn’t involve Spider-Man at all. He introduced the god of the symbiotes and Venom to stand on his own

@N.I.A23 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he looks so weird without his tarantula symbol. It's like if superman suit was just ...blue

@plushiesdx 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDailyGlobe922 But they never mention him attaching to an actual spider

@MataNui. 2 жыл бұрын

Venom 2 is better than the first but it's still not a good movie.

@nefariousgremlin7554 2 жыл бұрын

The dynamic between eddie and cleatus in this movie sounds really interesting, I love the origins of the nicknames for carnage and venom and the idea of eddie wanting to cover cleatus's murder spree but ultimately giving him a spotlight is just terrific.

@SpinosaurusStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds all good until you remember the important flaw: 90's CGI. Considering the fact we got Godzilla 1998 at the same time (Thanks Sony), and compared to the CGI used in Hulk's 2004 film, it would have been horrendous or badly animated. The CGI for him wasn't ready, and barely was when Spiderman 3 came out.

@cheetahluv210 2 жыл бұрын

Could have made an animatronic head instead

@peterparker9214 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely agreed. If this came out in 97 it would have been a disaster…laughable at best

@TheDeathsHead 2 жыл бұрын

I imagine it probably would have looked similar to the 90s Spawn movie. The main costume itself was practical but there was a lot of bad CGI scenes to show its powers.

@peterparker9214 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDeathsHead agreed. I tried watching spawn a few weeks ago and I turned it off 35 minutes in lol

@jacksurace8798 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see this script adapted as a straight-to-video animated film. Maybe even make it a Disney+ exclusive.

@derekmason1881 2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@allo.adrianrene 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm also quite glad we got the 2018 film instead, sure this could have been a fun movie but then we'd be living in an entirely different plane of comic book movies. In an alternate timeline, I can imagine the James Cameron Spider-Man movie being made and is successful along with this film to form a Spider-Man (Leonardo diCaprio) vs Venom (Dolph Lundgren) movie.

@marvel_dc_basedyt69420 2 жыл бұрын

A better script than the actual 2 venom movies

@homanism6438 2 жыл бұрын

A better script with shitty CGI

@damienstitchman1981 2 жыл бұрын

I'm super surprised how close this was to both of the Venom movies we've gotten. And it even kinda got Venom's death in Spider-Man 3 right

@bhunt799 2 жыл бұрын

This film seems to have lived on with both Venom (2018) and Venom Let There be Carnage as ideas from this film went on to be in both of those films.

@dachitronmagnus5755 2 жыл бұрын

I really don't understand why the Vault isn't the Life Foundation. I mean this would have been weird if made. Pretty fine for a 90s Venom movie. But honestly I'm glad it didn't happen.

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

The Vault being the Life Foundation is a superb take. I didn’t even think of that until you said it, but now I can’t stop thinking about it.

@kevinskywalker5539 Жыл бұрын

Wait, isn't the vault a prison for superhuman villains?

@KellsKats 2 жыл бұрын

It’s interesting that they made Venom attached to a Spider like creature to explain why he’s Spiderlike, while in the Sony version they just have vague Spiderman-ish powers that can easily be explained by how he’s made of goo.

@revolution_is_my_name8981 2 жыл бұрын

So obviously most of this was repurposed for Venom (2018). But that scene with a grenade blowing up Carnage and Cletus getting blown up with it reminds me a lot of Spider-Man 3.

@JackieFuckingChan 2 жыл бұрын

It seems like they implemented ideas from that script into Spider-Man 3 too. With the grenade being tossed at the formless symbiote and the host (Eddie in Spider-Man 3) jumping into the blast.

@PandemoniumPirateRadio 2 жыл бұрын

Dolph Lundgren as Eddie Brock is actually the most sensible casting of Eddie Brock I've ever heard of. He would have looked perfect as Eddie. The physique, the size, the head facial traits etc.

@thedlsking1628 Жыл бұрын

Shame it cancelled

@christiaanbothma Ай бұрын

But not particularly this script's version of him.

@appdirect 2 жыл бұрын

10:40 Wait, that's what happened in Spider-Man 3

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

It’s almost exactly what happened in Spider-Man 3. Goes to show that none of these ideas never truly stay dead.

@aurahoneydew9607 2 жыл бұрын

God I miss the elseworld madness of superhero movies. Way better to watch instead of the bland mid area that doesn't hit accurate nor out there tones of modern Marvel.

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

I adore the way that the early superhero movies felt. The X-Men an Spider-Man trilogies, Blade, even Superman Returns. They had faults, sure. But I appreciate that they went for it, for sure. It felt more like they were trying to adapt a book back then, and you definitely got some interesting choices because of it.

@srstriker6420 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ can you do David Hayter’s Hulk movie?

@Megalopod4783 2 жыл бұрын

If Dolph Lundgren play as the role of Eddie Brock aka Venom I bet Robert Englund would play as the role of Cletus Kasady aka Carnage

@P_Stick 2 жыл бұрын

Man, a lot of cancelled marvel movies from different companies really end up being utilized in the released movies in some capacity. A lot of the parts in this movie get echoed in Venom and Let There Be Carnage

@curtyct5389 2 жыл бұрын

That actually makes a lot of sense cuz the first Venom movie felt like a 90s comicbookmovie and there was a ton of Beats they took from that original script I was half expecting to hear Eddie brought jumps into a tank and a fancy restaurant and start eating live lobsters

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

The lobster tank scene is one of the most beautiful, moving, poignant scenes in the history of cinèma. But in all seriousness, it’s so, so similar to Venom and Let There Be Carnage, it’s wild.

@curtyct5389 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ agreed it really is

@EclipsingTNT Жыл бұрын

I've read this script a while back. I absolutely like the backstory of Cletus and Eddie having been orphans and growing up in the same orphanage, with Cletus effectively being a scar on Eddie's life, making this a story of facing the man who's ruined your life and has now returned, and I also like the script's depiction of Cletus, him being more psychotic, evil and reminiscent of Joker in TDK. I also like his cult status and following. The new powers are bizarre and don't fit symbiotes, though, and Peter still should've been involved with Venom and Eddie's backstories.

@TheMovieDoctorful 2 жыл бұрын

I think Skeet Ulrich would have made a phenomenal Eddie Brock in 1997.

@anderurteaga3707 2 жыл бұрын

Not bad, although it would look like Spawn. There's hope they'd have tried mostly practical effects, like those made by Rick Baker in the 80s, with few scenes of CGI, but since Jurassic Park came out in 1993, yeah, fucking Spawn.

@JYDY-if5rf 2 жыл бұрын

Venom and Morbius should have their very own spin-off television series starring Hank Azaria and Nick Jameson

@alexanderparker2219 2 жыл бұрын

"Kassidy doesn't die" literally the next sentence: "his head lights on fire"

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

This comment legitimately made me laugh out loud.

@homanism6438 2 жыл бұрын

the final fight from that script was used in spiderman 3

@TOM-ro7rt 2 жыл бұрын

"before any Spider-Man movie came out" *laughs in Spider-Man 1977*

@brandonspain12345 Жыл бұрын

I mean it was technically multiple episodes of the 70s show just put together as a movie. So it doesn't count.

@henrygarcia39 2 жыл бұрын

I think it would’ve been like the Spawn movie, not perfect but really cool. There are things about this that I actually like better than the Venom movie we got.

@OvertheHedge06 2 жыл бұрын

This sounds utterly insane and sounds very close to the two Venom movies we got which are both basically modern day 90s movies so it probably would've been better.

@ALUMINOS 2 жыл бұрын

cletus becoming carnage during his execution was something still kept in venom 2, interesting

@TheScarletWing2490 2 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly more curious on how they would have done this movie visually. This is 1997, CGI wasn't exactly what it is today (Unless you're James Cameron). They would have had to use practical effects and animatronics for Venom and Carnage. And of course there's the few shots of the hostless Symbiotes. They would absolutely have to use CGI there.

@tyronleung5276 2 жыл бұрын

It probrably look like liquid terminator cgi h.r. giger meets the michael jai white spawn suit and the kangaroo battle suits from tank girl

@Teprox 2 жыл бұрын

0:19 ,,Venom made his jump to the big screen before any spider man movie ever" Spider man 1977: Im joke to you?

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. It very much is a joke to me. :P

@Carnage_sGamingChannel 2 жыл бұрын

10:45 Well that indeed made it into Spiderman 3,

@amorrow1983 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting how the execution & She-Venom story-arcs were used in the Venom 2 movie. That happens so often with comic book movies these days. Recycle/Repeat

@acecashman1237 2 жыл бұрын

Even Kletus throwing himself into the fire out of need of being with the symbiote and trying to save it mirrors Eddie throwing himself into the explosion to merge with the symbiote and save it in Spider-Man 3

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

It goes to show that none of these ideas ever really die- they just co-mingle with other ideas until you get something new!

@leonardobonilla330 2 жыл бұрын

Cast Dolph Lundgren / Venom Robert England /Carnage

@brandonspain12345 2 жыл бұрын

I can't really see Robert Englund as Carnage. Too much like Freddy than Carnage. That was a fancast that started by TheEntity'sLair since he's a fan of Freddy. For me, maybe Brad Dourif or Michael Rooker since they're more "crazier" in their role. Also Dourif had the better laugh and looks good with red hair.

@leonardobonilla330 2 жыл бұрын

@@brandonspain12345 really you tell my now wow

@OptimusPhillip 2 жыл бұрын

Carnage turning his hand into a shotgun feels... weird to me. I mean, it makes sense in terms of the character's personality and tone, but I always thought symbiotes following T-1000 rules, which meant no guns.

@srstriker6420 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine if this came out the same year as Blade or the Black Panther which was Wesley Snipes originally wanted to do or even if James Cameron’s Spider-Man became a reality? Speaking of David S Goyer, have you found his cancelled Flash movie yet? Are you going to the original script for Halloween the return of Michael Myers, Tobe Hooper’s Spider-Man, George Ramiro’s Mummy, Ridley Scott’s I am legend or in the mountain of madness?

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure somebody else in the comments brought up the idea of Leo’s hypothetical Spidey facing off against Dolph’s Venom and in my mind, that’s a delicious prospect. Some of the ideas you mentioned, if all goes according to plan, you’ll actually get videos on before the year is over. There are some others in there that I know when I’d like to do a video on them, and the rest of them are pretty much all movies I’d like to cover at some point :)

@srstriker6420 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ I hope so because I guess you know about Halloween kills also I forgot to mention about Marvin the Martian movie which is set around Christmas

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Last year’s Christmas special was about Martians. Maybe a pattern will emerge ;)

@KenMasters. 2 жыл бұрын

If Dolph "The Punisher" Lundgren was considered to play Eddie Brock/Venom, then David "Nick Fury" Hasselhoff would most likely portray Cletus Kasady/Carnage.

@PerfectYakon2219 Жыл бұрын

Nah Robert Englund would be great casting as Cletus Kasady

@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын

@@PerfectYakon2219 He's creepy, but not intimidating.

@PerfectYakon2219 Жыл бұрын

@@KenMasters. same with Carnage

@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын

@@PerfectYakon2219 Carnage is like Venom, but slender. Another thing about Robert Englund: He already played a Kasady-like character, a pre-immortalized Freddy Krueger. Casting him for the part would make him seem like a redundant type-cast for those who have watched Freddy's Dead.

@TOM-ro7rt 2 жыл бұрын

Some of this sounds like Spider-Man 3 and both Venom movies stuff "Eddie wakes up as Venom" "Carnage saves Cletus from death sentence" "Venom goes back to Eddie with a kiss" "Cletus goes into the explosion for the symbiote"

@mickeymouse7726 2 жыл бұрын

Even though I would love to see this version of the venom movie I'm glad this didn't happen because to me doing a venom movie without Spider-Man is really weird it feels wrong not involving Spider-Man

@emilianovillarruelhernande343 2 жыл бұрын

It sounds pretty damn good, the only thing I didn’t like very much is the casting for Eddie

@Benratbag1997 2 жыл бұрын

I love Venom and this is an Awesome Documentary 👏 such a shame New Line Cinema’s Venom never came to be. But I think the main reasons why it was never made because back in the 90s the CGI graphic effects weren’t advanced enough nor superhero films weren’t as popular as they are today. But it could’ve worked if you look at some classic films made in the 90s like _Terminator 2,_ _Jurassic Park,_ _The Mask,_ _Men In Black_ and _Flubber_ they had some impressive CGI. I’ve read David S. Goyer’s script online for myself and thought it was really decent but weird. It was more like a horror/sci-fi film with a much edgier tone compared to Tom Hardy’s films, but it was still a superhero film - think similar to the films like _Alien,_ _An American Werewolf In London,_ _The Thing,_ and _The Fly._

@SpeezyOTB 2 жыл бұрын

This sounds better than the venom movie we got but it also explains why the venom movie we got seems so dated

@ShockwaveProd2011 2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting that they used a lot from this script in the Venom movies.

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

For sure, it goes to show that none of this stuff never really dies, it just get repurposed :P

@kiko1935 2 жыл бұрын

I was obsessed with venom as a kid, surprised I never heard of this back then. While the concept seems interesting the terrible cgi would have really impeded it, as we know even 2007 venom looked like trash.

@sabetoonth 2 жыл бұрын

A version of this is honestly would have been a great sequel to the 2018 move. Love the 2018 movie. Not so much the sequel, but it was still watchable.

@averythesuperhero 2 жыл бұрын

I really hate the unnecessary romance between Eddie and Kafka. It just feels so random and out of place, and I really just wish more movies could have male and female characters NOT kiss or fall in love or anything. Though ig it was 1997, but it still pisses me off a bit

@SakurakoLover 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, 90s movies have guilty of having out of nowhere romance stuffs

@Facade953 Жыл бұрын

Spider-Man TAS did it first though. In Carnage's episodes!

@ogreboy1992 2 жыл бұрын

This would've been better than the ones we got

@cslance6863 2 жыл бұрын

I had no idea that Cletus Kasady's nickname was actually "Carnage"

@The_Infamous_Boogyman Жыл бұрын

Venom in the animated series was great. Half blue shading, half red. So good

@HemmasStudios_ Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more. It was such a cool look!

@mickeymouse7726 2 жыл бұрын

Funny how similar the 97 script is to the recent Tom Hardy Venom movies and the death of Carnage in this is very similar to the death of Venom in Spider-Man 3

@maxordman4100 12 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing this with us and it sounds like an interesting movie and a solid story which could’ve introduced the character well enough and set up the foundation for future Marvel movies but probably the main problem lies right there as in there just weren’t any other Marvel movies that were well known at the time and this movie was not even focused on one of their more popular and well known characters but rather a new villain who was gaining popularity, but certainly wasn’t ready for his own movie. Good report though and part of why I enjoy your channel so much.

@Nin_the_Shinobi 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda wish they just used this script for the Venom movie

@christopherbrownmaaga4668 Жыл бұрын

There was a fan film made with Dolph as Eddie Brocks and it was in KZfaq.

@mcelfy1006 2 жыл бұрын

such an interesting story,it may have needed few improvements but i think it would be an interesting story arc for MCU

@komedi69. 2 жыл бұрын

This is just Venom Let There Be Carnage but in the 90s

2 жыл бұрын

I'm still struggling to understand HOW someone as mediocre as David S. Goyer has managed to make it so big in Hollywood.

@ivanvasquez5571 2 жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD! I'VE BEEN ASKING ANOTHER KZfaqR AND YOU GAVE ME WHAT I WANT!

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to give you what you want!

@arachnoman7421 2 жыл бұрын

This channel is gold !

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You’re username is also gold!

@luckyshottherabbitoccultist Жыл бұрын

It's surreal how much of this ended up showing up in the Venom movies we have today. I mean don't get me wrong "The others" lol

@j.j.q1379 2 жыл бұрын

The cameo of venom in the comics was 84 number 252 which is awesome since it’s the year I was born. Great video.

@jaeblack4752 2 жыл бұрын

Weird how the set up of how Eddie and Cletus and the newspaper column is similar to Let There Be Carnage

@viciousbane569 2 жыл бұрын

Great video bro, keep up the good work! I’m new to your channel so I already have a like and a new subscriber.

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I’m glad you enjoy!

@nova-jo1649 2 жыл бұрын

Spiderman 3 used the idea separating the symbiote with cletus and then was desperate to go back and get blown up like Peter did with pumpkin bomb

@cap8985 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do the cancelled venom movie that was supposed to come out a year after spiderman 3 came out

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll definitely look into it :)

@cap8985 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ thank you so much!!

@mdh16off59 Жыл бұрын

@@cap8985yes you talk about jude law venom movie in 2009 yes i know in This movie Its not topher grace who play venom its jude law who was gona be eddie brock venom

@toainsully Жыл бұрын

When you look at the film, it's got the plot of Venom, but with the main characters of Venom: Let there be Carnage

@wallygator92 Жыл бұрын

It would have been wired if we got a Venom movie before a Spider-Man

@zipperozicvideodump 2 жыл бұрын

This totally sounds like what became the new Venom movies. Like, the amount of similarities and osmosis of ideas is immense. I'm super happy with the Movies we got, though. If we got the '97 version of it, it probably wouldn't be all that different.

@BenjaminoTalks 2 жыл бұрын

never heard anyone say they're 'super happy' with the venom movies before but to each their own

@zipperozicvideodump 2 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminoTalkswell, it’s all situational. It’s probably the best venom movie we could’ve gotten lol

@berserker3440 2 жыл бұрын

There's still a possibility that Dolph can be cast as an older venom variant in venom 3

@unspeakableflame292 2 жыл бұрын

"Cassidy screams how he needs Carnage and throws himself into the fire" sounds familiar

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Just goes to show that none of this stuff really ever gets completely trashed- it just gets recycled :P

@supergodzillaxvlogs3044 2 жыл бұрын

Hi👋Friend👋You’re Channel Is Super Awesome 😎 Happy To Head That Venom Project Movie As Been Going For Years 👍I Am Happy With The 2 Venom Movies That We Got👍

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words!

@jamesheatherly4209 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please do a Canned Goods episode on the history and cancelation of The Divergent Series: Ascendant? Also, please do one on The Mortal Instruments: City of Ashes and the Mortal Instruments: City Of Glass.

@deadNightwatchman 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting. But, well, it was the 90s and the whole thing gives off potentially disastrous vibes, Daredevil style.

@brandonspain12345 2 жыл бұрын

Considering this was written before Blade and was released and by the studio that made Blade, New Line Cinema, it would more likely would've been rated R. So already they made the 2018 movie look like a bitch. Also, Carnage would be in the first movie and have to wait for a sequel. Not to mention, but this would've come out a time when practical and CGI effects were both used. With the CGI being used to enhance the effects. But the films by New Line had some really bad CGI, like Spawn, Blade, Mortal Kombat or Freddy vs. Jason, so even if the story and effects are good, the CGI would've hurt the movie.

@tyronleung5276 2 жыл бұрын

The effects then would of been terrible second it would be terrible like spawn 97

@brandonspain12345 Жыл бұрын

@@tyronleung5276 The CGI sure, but the practical effects would've been good.

@tyronleung5276 Жыл бұрын

@@brandonspain12345 the story would've been awful

@JYDY-if5rf Жыл бұрын

They should make a new movie called venom versus Morbius starring Tom Hardy and Jared Leto

@kevinskywalker5539 Жыл бұрын

i just finished the script, ,(you can find it on reddit), and all i can say is,"this is something else." I really liked it. would have been cool, if this was a real movie, though.

@nobod2567 2 жыл бұрын

Surprisingly enough, That cancelled Venom would have came out the same year as *sigh* Spawn, Batman and Robin, and Steel

@tarzanbonanno 25 күн бұрын

I wish this was the version of non spider venom that we got

@TheDude_24 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there can you make more of this videos it's so fun to watch. Also question are you the only one who makes this videos or do you have a team?

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

I’m working on new videos all the time, so I got you covered there :D Also, yes. Just me on the videos!

@TheDude_24 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ that's insane you are the only one that makes this videos. Btw don't give up I hope you will be a big KZfaqr one day.

@ThePoisonFurry Жыл бұрын

So they couldn't use the word symbiotes or The Daily Bugle because of Spider-Man rights

@ulyssesveracruz8343 2 жыл бұрын

Yoo are you planning to do youre version of spiderman 4 and amazing spiderman 3 ?

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

At some point, I’d love to talk about those movies, for sure.

@ulyssesveracruz8343 2 жыл бұрын

@@HemmasStudios_ thanks man

@realjpegmafia 2 жыл бұрын

this movie sounds pretty 90s lmfao

@a.c9938 2 жыл бұрын

I see that some of this is similar to the venom movie from a few years ago

@t856joker3 2 жыл бұрын

Actually in venom 1997 eddie brock's name wasn't gonna be eddie brock.

@HemmasStudios_ 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll never get why Goyer was going to name him Eddy Brock- such a weird change

@classicsonic5036 2 жыл бұрын

This is venom 2021 mixed with venom 2018

@thechippotronreal 2 жыл бұрын

And the comics and new ideas

@ToroBravo144 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe this Venom movie had the same continuity with the cancelled James Cameron Spider Man movie

@m0istur 2 жыл бұрын

This movie sounds a bit similar to thr one we got in 2018, but its still different

@tommyvasquez2708 2 жыл бұрын

if this was tweaked a bit (like give a better reason why carnage would bond with cletus or just change carnage's origin in general) and made today, it would probably make for a really entertaining watch

@lilgregzy5172 2 жыл бұрын

Way better than the 2018 movie

@davidnaud3767 2 жыл бұрын

So this is really just a mix of Venom (1 and 2), the comics and some original ideas... I like it

@jaeblack4752 2 жыл бұрын

This would have been a lot of fun tbh, I think its better than what we got with Let There Be Carnage

@saptarshichakraborty7027 2 жыл бұрын

Where to get this movie? Any link??

@rpmguy648 2 жыл бұрын

Cletus Kassady being sentenced to death was resued for Venom let there be Carnage.

@oonietv1535 2 жыл бұрын

I wont lie give that script a few changes and a good budget and it couldve been better than what we got. Fight me.

@PelinalDidNothingWrong Жыл бұрын

Robert Englund would've been a great Kletus Casidy/Carnage as somebody else commented here. It would've been great to see him play the twisted killer!

@HemmasStudios_ Жыл бұрын

That’s excellent casting

@brandonspain12345 Жыл бұрын

I would've chosen Brad Dourif. His laughter and twisted psychotic voice would've fit better. And he has done movies with red hair and he looks comic accurate. Robert would just be Freddy and it's just not unique.