Do Tyler Carter from Woe is me and Issues please!

Hey Nate, I was thinking about talking about the ATL allegations. They've been around for a long time in the scene, and have done some very creepy things, and had allegations thrown at them around 2021. But nobody is talking about it and they still have MILLIONS of listeners and are still making music.

Hey if you want more journalistic integrity, don't alienate viewers by calling them retards. Do some research about autism and famous autistic people a d then I doubt you'll want to keep using that as an insult. Pretty sad it's the first video if yours I have seen and you already insulted a big part of who I am.

stop selling us stuff we dont need, no one here needs a VPN, especially not for "security"

@@itsmishki7005 bros crying over a video he didnt pay for 😹😹😹😹

“Sorry guys, I goofed. I’ve been slowly getting better over the past couple months.”

The lead singer of Tiny Moving Parts got accused and their statement was actually really good

sorority noise and brand new

@@spaszek195362 wasn’t the signer from brand new jacking it on video video chat?

dustie waring

Excuse me, my dude, warn me next time you’re gonna be hilarious, I almost just spit my drink out.

This cracked me up, thanks. I did a summer on the tour, the amount of creeps hooking up with young girls without asking about or caring about their age made me sick. People thought I was weird for hooking up with girls older than me, and I was like 21. Says everything you need to know about that culture. Probably the same today, 18 years later.

@@actuallynotsteve that’s funny because I was in highschool / junior high around this time and it was almost acceptable for girls that are like 13-16 dating seniors in high school. I’m 26 now with a 23 year old gf and that’s the largest age gap I’ve personally experienced. Just glad that this behavior is called out these days

😂😂😂😂😂

I’m glad I never went

Ngl me too

AGREED

same

Same

Fuck, me too

thanks for the kind words!

Whoa profile pic twin

Yea any band that markets themselves to teenagers needs to be looked into

Same here. It's especially yikes because so many of the worst parts of this culture also spread to my "friend" group at the time (where there were 20 something dudes hanging out with me and my teenage friends).

Yeah I look back and think of all the lyrics I was singing along to, and what they actually meant, and all the horrible ideas that were presented to me as a young teen. The fact that the creepy fanfiction me and my friends were writing could have actually happened is absurd.

Damn if u have any personal anecdotes about Kevin you'd like share hmu on twitter on instagram, links r in my bio. I wanna talk about him in this series eventually

​@@FXKNate for sure ... I was living/working at the label offices in OC with a travel/band apartment in Chicago so I was kind of right smack in the middle of the industry end of things at the time even though i was an artist .. lotsa KL & general behind the scenes stories 😂

Lol I would’ve worn the vans. Fk your ego.

I never attended Warped in those years, but i think it got a lot better. I was always just a merch guy or hangaround for bands on the tour (2010-2013ish), and it really wasnt that bad most of the time, atleast in my bubble and the bands I hungout with, the parties on the busses got pretty questionable. As far as the management of the tour, logisticaly/business-wise etc... went pretty well. It was always some band and/or members of a band causing issues and making the whole program look bad.. sometimes it was even some of the vendors or tour sponser booths. I remember Truth had some sketchy shit happen. An accurate summation would be that many warped bands, more specifically the in post hardcore scene really do have a proven history of allegations (convicted or not. mostly not) of sexual conduct w/ minors. Imagine if the internet existed when Motley Crue was around!

@@stiiimes what band?

100% , im sorry that music was spoiled. Hope you're doing well :)

@@FXKNate It’s definitely changed my view on stan culture because i was a hardcore fangirl for bands like ptv and ghost town. After that i realized that just because they’re “famous” doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be held accountable. I think a lot of people who rally behind these bands should take a step back and realize that they’re still just regular people. Who are still fully capable of causing harm to others. Just because they’re apart of a band you love doesn’t make them perfect.

allegedly?

I'm glad you enjoy it :)

I loooved Attack Attack! I recommend checking out the band Bilmuri. It’s Jonny Franck’s band(the original clean singer)

​@@MadnessInTheMoonlight ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE ANOTHER NON-WIPER IN THE COMMENTS 😎👍 CRANK ON PARTNER 🐗🤠

can u drop names? i'm scared that i probably still know or listen to them

@@letscheertoths Don't you understand? It's already hard for women like @KobiPhantom to remember all those terrible memories. Name dropping will only make it worse. You might just listen to some other bands from different genres.

He was going super Christian before. Allegedly he wanted more Christian stuff in the songs but OM&M said no, hence why he said he felt limited creatively. As for moving I think his dad was already out there

​@@anthonycole6839 partially correct. He indulged in the bad for OM&M. He left om&m because his health was seriously bad. He couldn't perform without his body failing him on stage. He's in a good place now and openly talks about how he hated how wicked he was.

Just saw him at church in CA

@@theTBwearsducktape was it at a Calvary Chapel?

@@vvvnokk8309 Yosemite Church in Merced

Love that dude

Caleb a true GOAT

@Zyndetta His stuff with Beartooth is so much better! Dude kills it and I'm glad he's getting his life straight!

I met Caleb at a show in late 2009, shortly after he took over lead vocals for Attack Attack! He was the nicest dude and even let me take a picture with him (which I probably still have on one of my really old phones somewhere). Out of all of the people I've met from bands throughout the years, he was among the nicest of them.

Yeah Caleb got a lot of hate while he was frontman for Attack Attack! Sure, he wasn't as good as Austin but he filled the spot well especially his lows. I don't blame him for leaving and forming Beartooth.

What's wrong with Tommy vext?

@@Whileweweresinners he publicly endorsed trump and criticized blm which led to him getting kicked out of bad wolves, and he tried to sue them so he could get the bad wolves trademark.

@@Whileweweresinners the narcissism.

@@yvngxd3xth I wasn’t even talking about that. It was the other stuff like the DV

​@@yvngxd3xthTrump is a joke, but BLM is bullshit.

I never knew that, makes me appreciate the song even more besides it being a banger already

I’ve heard that most TPIY’s 1st and 2nd albums are about Austin (allegedly)

thanks a bunch :)

Who was accused from All Time Low? Genuinely curious and bummed to hear it.

@@thecreatedvoid117 twitter.com/kblaus/status/1651039078459092994?s=46&t=i1Wm54OJwsxJV-oQItNEdA

@@thecreatedvoid117 Jack was

@@thecreatedvoid117 I heard a lot about Jack and my suspicions were confirmed when I realized he dated Abigail Breslin when she was 17… THE GIRL FROM LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE?

Also not to mention all their dirty jokes when their fan base were mainly underage ~.~

​@@PapaRikkiBalls so you were a shit person as a teenager that harmed others.... what's your point?

@Devil Bird Yeah, I see what you’re saying and the analogy you used is helpful. It really does make it difficult to have the conversations that would heal our relationship though. When you can’t be judged for what you did while you were sick, but the consequences of your actions have left so much hurt in their wake. Is it the sole responsibility of the victim of abuse to ‘get over it’ because the abuser is a new man? You know, I am so proud of my father for getting sober and staying clean. I love the person he is today. But it is hard to forgive and forget abuse.

@Devil Bird thank you! It is a weird cognitive dissonance thing I deal with concerning my dad. But i was thinking it probably was elitist/judgmental to say ‘new man’. I should really think of it more in terms of recovery, which I think your first comment effectively pointed out. Thanks for talking!

This!

thank you!

Might be random to say this, but aw, you meeting Aaron is awesome. He's one of my favorite singers. And hm, hope Austin just didn't feel well that day and some people don't like to talk that much either (I can relate) :(

@@Chizuru94 Aaron was a sweetheart and you could really tell how appreciative he is of his fans. We talked about aliens and a bunch of random stuff like that. Lol I can definitely relate though because I’m super introverted most of the time. It was just weird because the rest of the band was out talking to fans and he just walked by without acknowledging anyone.

Warms a father’s heart! Thanks!

@@rpauley2012 I’m only saying the truth! ❤️

I saw Austin before soundcheck and asked for a photo and he said I will be back. He literally came back about 30 mins later after soundcheck and took 10 mins or so to chat with me and let me get a photo. Never a shroud of douchey at any point either. I tried to chat with Mike from Prada at warped once and dude was walking like he was on a mission and I know he isn't a bad guy, they have certain places to be at certain times so it can be difficult.

glad to help :>

thank u :) I appreciate that so much

Same man, Another You is one of my favorites, I love the song still, but then I remember what he did.

The band is still going without Austin and making good music.

@@toyotaecw I’ll give their new music another try, but when I first heard it after learning Austin left due to his health problems (this was like 2018) and I heard it, it wasn’t exactly my cup of tea

I dont know if they made more recently. But I know they had like an EP or something, like 3 songs, that I really enjoyed. At first I didnt like their sound without Austin but those songs I mentioned are really good

@@willowwisp4307 yeah their new stuff is more "core" direction than stuff like Restoring Force

happy to help :)

thank u :)

I'm sure he's a better person now, I'd really like to think that. plus nothing is confirmed

He wasn't very approachable back then anyway I think. I remember at Warped Tour once I was sitting next to a tent and my friend and I saw Austin walk past us and we, along with a bunch of other people, were all trying to say hi to him and he just ignored every person that he walked past lol

At least Oli is amazing and became the best of them all anyway. BMTH still slays.

Me too! thanks so much :)

Thanks for the insight!

@@FXKNate No problem! :)

Holy shit. Good point. I wonder Johnathan thought the process and vetting would be less strenuous? Not for nefarious reasons; maybe he thought it would be easier on the victims?

Holy shit. Good point. I wonder Johnathan thought the process and vetting would be less strenuous? Not for nefarious reasons; maybe he thought it would be easier on the victims?

I met Tyler Carter once, before the accusations came out. He was weird as fuck. I 100% believe he did what he did.

CJ McCreery situation was literally nothing, which is sad because it got him kicked out of Lorna. They haven’t had anything close to as good as the Immortal album

@@ThisIsGers Yeah CJ had everything cleared up but he still gets shit on for stuff he didn't do.

@@blacksunshine9995 I’m looking forward to CJ’s new project coming out, I was just rattling off all the high profile allegations I could remember from the past few years.

@@Spermwhales93 There’s no way a straight man does the things the victim claims he had to do. I’m sorry but there’s no “power dynamics” involved between the two. I bet things went down between TC and the other singer, but they were consensual.

thanks you dude!

Love New Zealand and miss it.

ur my favorite commentor

I did bring it up, right before talking about the MDE tour! glad you're enjoying the content!

no it doesn't. Bringing lawyers into any situation that involves an accusation (true or false) that is damaging to your career is just common sense. You don't sit on your hands and go well i know its false so surely the world will just believe me..

also assuming the accusations are false and Austin knows this i can understand why he'd be pissed off and make these threats. In this circumstance most people would feel the same way

@@transient442 I see you’re point that he could simply be pissed off about allegations that could ruin his career, but one of those accusers have to be telling the truth. As mentioned before in the video most accusers who do speak out don’t gain anything from it they’re risking a lot. They don’t get paid or get positive feedback for speaking out the accusers may came out about their experiences later on because it’s not easy for SA survivors to come out about their experiences, because of the emotional damage it has done to them or they realize that they were assaulted after the encounter they should be given a chance to see whether or not it’s true Austin prevents that from happening. If he faced the allegations the accusers will leave him alone .

@@lesliecartagena1292 my reply wasn't at all me defending Austin against the allegation, that's not even something i'm taking a stand on because i don't feel its right to do so. The only thing i was defending him on is his reaction to the AP article, and how his reaction doesn't assume guilt in the slightest. Like if hypothetically he truly was innocent i don't think his response to that situation would change either way.

Thanks! I'll look into it!

@@FXKNate cheers man, no pressure as I say!

thank u :)

thanks dude! glad you enjoy the content!

Lucky lol

@@brandxlionI was thinking the same thing, how lucky to experience warped in its golden years. I only got to go to warped tour when I was 14, being born in 98, actually I think I got to see Of Mice & Men that year lol

emo fans deserve a bad rep for that kind of childish attitude

Yes and there is more than one survivor

Let's remember that Mikaela's claims are false. But there is another girl who made claims

thank you so much

Thank you so much! complimenting my editing is the easiest way to my heart

@@FXKNate ahh well you are fantastic at it mate! You’re very welcome! 🤗

Thanks so much :>

thanks buddy !

Yeah my thoughts exactly. And I hate to say it, as someone who has experienced SA multiple times myself.... but there are a lot of cases of women (or men) not being truthful when making these accusations. Especially when you take into consideration that these allegations came out *after* AA made statements alluding to it. We'll probably never get anything conclusive regarding it one way or another. Shitty either way you look at it - either dozens of women aren't getting justice that they deserve or someone's getting accused of things they didn't do. Lose/lose.

Not everyone knew about the AA post. I knew that they hated him, I knew about the AC-130 song, I didn't know why they hated him. Also, I don't know if it's been wiped from the internet, but there was a picture of him with a group of very young looking girls in their bras and underwear, this was a long time ago.

Considering the hell survivors get put through, especially by the fanbase (when it's someone famous), this isn't necessarily the case.

since when is it trendy to lie about being violated? in the VERY rare cased people lie about this, they are mentally ill and put on revenge. y'all need to fucking wake up an realizr what awful world we live in. i thought i was 'lucky' i did not experience sa until i grew up and years later i actually realized it happened right in my own relationship i was worshiping. sa is real and unfortunately almost everywhere and YOU need to do better and believe the victims.

@@aniuwuc Sorry, I replied last week but must have been flagged for a link I put in there. So the most common percentage put out there is anywhere between 4-10%. That doesn't look big when looking at the whole picture but that is A LOT innocent people being falsely accused of something they didn't do. There are additional cases of DA's and people in law enforcement stating that within their district, it was upwards of 40%. The main reasons people falsely accuse is, including what you said but also, mental illness, revenge, vindictiveness, attention seeking, regret, etc. Then you also have unintentional reasons like false memories. I'm not sitting here saying the accusations are true or false. I think everyone needs to use their own discernment when researching all the information out there. Personally, I will never sit and point the finger and say "yup - definitely guilty" unless proven guilty because that's dangerous territory too. Will I sit and think to myself "yeah, that's probably true"? Absolutely. But false allegations can ruin the lives of those accused and their loved ones. I am a huge advocate for justice for victims. I think SA is just about the worst crime to exist. It doesn't get any more evil than harming the innocent. But if there are really that many people who are degenerate enough to stoop to SA'ing someone, you can't put it past others to lie. Everyone lies, just to what extent. Evils can exist on both sides of this topic. There is a reason societally we stand by innocent until proven guilty. I would also like to add that I started this by saying I've experienced SA a couple of times in my life. I do not expect the world to believe me; I failed myself and maybe even others by not going after those who hurt me when I was younger because I felt like it was my fault. But I won't sit here and *expect* everyone to believe I'm being truthful just because I said it happened. That's the hard reality of things. We need to get better, as humans, to teach those who are young what SA is and feel confident in telling those they can and trust, so the evil people performing these acts can be dealt with. I know we disagree here but I wish you nothing but the best.

ur awesome!

A lot of predatory people in the scene. Always was.

I think it’s unfair to judge a band by the actions of only one of the members

Literally the reason why ( even though I was 8 I was aware of the scene era not to mention rock bands but for some reason I wasn’t interested, I think I dodged a bullet) I never really stepped into the rock scene for some reason, I always got a bad vibe whenever I saw grown ass men hanging out with underage girls, I never really understood why, I remember vividly my cousin ( who was 16-17 at the time) showed me interview or songs and I asked her “ why are kids my age alone with guys who are older” and she just said “ their parents are there with them” knowing damn well in my gut that was bullshit, I forever will never know why managers of bands thought it was a good idea to have underage fans hang out with people two time’s their age

@SuicideSeason I agree with you

@@Birtheater4545 I think he was more talking about the scene as a whole, then the band.