God Bless 🙏

Nice I grew up as a teen and went to school with children of some of these people in Sydney, some of the best friendships I've had. I'm a big Dutch guy. Being Dutch we understand fighting as a minority in war time. When you goto their house though you take you shoes off or the old man throws a TV remote at you :P haha

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God bless🙏🏼

I thought the Hmong were notorious pacifists?

Bro, recently I have watched a lot of wartime documentaries. I am not a fan of war, in fact, I would refuse to take up arms. However, what I have been told/researched/heard has really solidified that men/women will die for what they believe is right/have another choice/ to protect others in every scenario. We need to overcome the forces that force us into that pit.

I'm afraid our Western mainstream media double speak outlets aren't in the business of informing or educating, on the contrary their used to manufacture consent for the next illegal intervention

When they came into the Manassas area of Prince William County, Virginia, an oddity popped up: a firefighter-paramedic that could translate for them, me! I heard stories from a few that were trained by and worked with my father in Laos. My father was involved from 1954 through 1971. I was going back to work for Air America in Cambodia but when Penom Penh fell to Pol Pot I stayed in America and marred an American and became a firefighter-paramedic. My mother and father are buried together in the Arlington National Cemetery. He loved the Hmong.

What kind of company do they own if you don't mind me asking

No, now we tare down any statues and try to hide our past, we don't learn from anything anymore..LETS GO BRANDON

Amen bro.

We can barely support ours

I can second that

@@retrospecative2454 it's not that we can't its just that the people we elect don't find that to be important

Child soldiers tho? The communist didn't do that.

I cry inside because I was part of the training team.

that's Secrets for you

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@@chuckholmes9125 You were an advisor, sir?

Dang you were born before 1972???? You look very good for your age if thats your real PF picture

Not surprised an American doesn't know American history.

​@@cchughes88 Pretty ignorant assumption there.

It has not been a secret as multiple veterans have written books or given interviews for TV shows. But there are many things US schools or mainstream media keep away from students. I highly recommend "The Ravens" a well written biography of the covert US forces and activities in Laos.

a book you might find interesting is "the tigerman of Vietnam" it's about an Australian captain in the early 60s who controlled the Central highlands by building and army from the moi tribesmen. greatly feared, loved and respected. the CIA didn't like the power he had gained and moved their own people in there. the intelligence dried up and it was no longer a secure zone. you should look into your allies during the conflict in south East Asia, a lot of tactics that are still used today were learned during this time.

Don’t feel bad man, I live in Laos and practically no one knows any of this here either.

One of my former supervisors was a Marine stationed in Okinawa the 1961 to 63 timeframe. He and many other Marines spent 2 or 3 days & nights sitting/sleeping next to the helicopters (plural) that would take them into combat in Laos. There was a radio station in northern Laos that was being fought over by Communist forces and the local militias.The radio station was held by friendlies and the Marines could leave the tarmac and the helicopters. Yes, they were tense but ready to go into combat if ordered. He was glad they got to stay on Okinawa. It was his strongly held belief that Kennedy was eager to get US troops fighting in Southeast Asia. Kennedy seems to have been very hawkish on war. Another co-worker was on a destroyer during the Cuban Missile Crisis. They'd get 5 or more destroyers abreast and charge full speed at Havana harbor. Right before entering Cuba's legal waters they would break away. Then they'd go back to the start and repeat this multiple times. The hope was to get the Cubans and Russians to lose their nerve and fire at the US ships. Then there'd be an excuse for a shooting reaction. Another point he made was Kennedy was telling the US people there were no US carriers in that area. His quote was "B--S there were 5 carriers there all the time". Why JFK was telling the public this? No idea what the logic or motivation was. I worked with many dozens of Vietnam era vets, majority of who were in-country. Many many stories they've told over the years. I even know how fast the USS Enterprise could go under emergency conditions, like returning to VN because of the Tet Offensive. Interesting but I'm glad I was 3 years too young for all that.

My dad his close cousin which he considered his blood brother both served during Vietnam they were never honored and sent off as Vets should have been when they passed. You might have never met them or been in the same place as them thanks for fighting along with them and your service since Vietnam vets in the US are controversial too

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Absent the grenade, your story is run-of-the-mill in my neighborhood.

I’m not calling your dad a liar but grenades don’t have enough force to tear and project ones limbs , even if someone jumps directly on a grenade.

@@senseitubagoo1345 father in law but yeah. It’s what he told us unless he threw a C4 or something. But his stories nonetheless were very interesting.

@@jamieyang7589 c4 isn’t used as a weapon , unless it’s an IED. Call of duty c4 satchel charges aren’t a real weapon.

@@jamieyang7589 don't listen to sensei. he is a typical armchair internet general that's been in every war since WW1. You needed your father in law to talk about his story because its important for your future family. So his story during his time in the Vietnam war can be told to generations to come.

In truth the elders who fought in this conflict really just want to be recognized. Not only the fighters but the survivors who struggled to get to the boarder of Thailand. Their stories aren't even told to their children. It's very sad and dear to them.

You know what? I agree. I used to volunteer at the VA hospital. What was weird is why wasn't my dad getting treated at the VA?? A lot of mixed feelings.

​@@27gvsad, because hmong soldier was not american soldier but gvp soldier.

As a born and raised American farm boy I wish we could of brought all that wanted to come here safely after the war. They fought, sacraficed and bled next to us, they deserve the benefits, burial rights and all of our respect and praise. I wish you and your family the best.

@@rsmetz88 thank you

It is true that the Hmong fought bravely. It is also true that they fought against their own country. Many Lao national still consider them traitors since the communists won in the end.

@@sunlightsoilwater yep I’ve heard they’re still persecuted to this day in certain regions of SE Asia.

@@sunlightsoilwater Invade and Divide a country and turn its people against one anther in war and killing,get then to kill each other for them that's the US and Uk Empire/imperialist way.

@@gphjr1444 not all hmong are being persecuted in laos. Some hmong fought for the communist so those are left alone. It's the hmong who fought for the Americans who refused to leave and formed a resistance against the communist. The resistance was holding their own against the pathet lao until the mid 90's when the refugee camps in thailand shut down, they lost a lot of support after that

@@hmoobmeeka yea that true but some still hate the rule of communism til this day but they just dealt with it

They don't need your pity, and your self-loathing is pathetic.

My grandfather was a pilot for Air America, and a personal friend of Vang Pow. He escaped death in the Chosan reservoir just to return back to the next craziest place in the world he could get too, and saved thousands and thousands more lives. He went on about the Laotian and Hmong fearlessness and their solid determination to keep Laos the shining jewel of South East Asia, as it is today. I'm happy a lot of Hmong call America home these days.

Your right we do it again and we'll probably do it again and again. We use these people and then maybe if they're lucky they can leave country when we lose. Weapons manufacturers win though that for sure

The pull out of Laos was just repeated in Afghanistan. It's a shame why Americans keep doing this repeatedly throughout history.

@@FieryJuniper God I hope that was the last one.

You're proud to be associated with the country that murdered hundreds of thousands of Laotians?

@@PerryCoxPF93 In life you have options to choose how you feel about things that have happened in the past. You could be bitter and resentful; or you move forward as a better person. The US is not so perfect, but our families struggled to bring us here, we are not willing to waste our chance at the American dream by sitting around being bitter and sorry about the things we can or cannot control. It would be a dishonor to our parents and ancestors.

@@johnylee714 amazing that you consider it bitter to even discuss the past honestly or even reckon with imperialism and its consequences. Of course your mentality only leads to future crimes against humanity that the US will perpetuate across the globe. But go ahead and be proud your family was one of the few people not: killed, maimed, poisoned, or trafficked by the US

Hmong was use by the the Americans as a deterrence to the pathet lao after failing with the royalist. In the lao perspective, your ethnic minority are considered as traitors. It was a civil war and you accepted to be the Yankees's pawn. Your heroism is debatable. You can argue that after the pathet lao success, the hmong were targeted which is quite understandable considering the war implications.

​@@xayvath5221 ​ thanks for bringing that up. I'm a little nonplussed about this documentary: my father in law was in the pathet laos, fighting against what they considered to be an oppressive, unpatriotic government that was just a willing pawn of the US government. possibly a large amount of viewers of this documentary may not realize that the Hmong were considered by many to be unpatriotic that were tools in the pay of the US government (which they kind of were) and the aeons old conflict between the Hmong and lowland laos didn't help.

My father was a Vietnam War veteran who helped the Americans during the war. He lost one of his eyes and had his stomach tore open by a landmine. The guy who stepped on it die instantly while my dad got hit by the shrapnel of the landmine. He is lucky to be alive. My dad suffered from PTSD because of the war. He died in 2015. God bless his soul.

Since it was a secret war, everything is off the books. So it technically didn’t happen.

@@gimmedaloot sure dude. Whatever.

Because they weren't a part of the US military obviously

@@A_Black_Sheep94 but they did more than anyone that was part of the US Military. Instead, the US government give out stimulus to people who don’t want to work. What a shame.

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Think they lost more than that tbh. Before, during and after.

Love Hmong people. Laotian populations all over the south

I come from a nation that just like yours, struggled against communism, i honor your people & their service, just like mine.

A few did not all of you it means mercenary

Trust Jesus, not man.

Cry for our vets at home that are homeless and have been tossed to the side like a piece of trash as well

You have no idea what you are talking about in regards of Afghanistan. The US armed forces had supported in training the ANP and ANA to fight against the Taliban and terrorism but their government infrastructure was obviously flawed, so as soon as the US pulled out of Afghanistan, their government fell apart and Taliban took over.

A pointless war

America is the biggest lie in history, they didn't fight for world freedom in WW1, WW2, or Cold war. The United States has only ever fought for it's own imperial interest...same as all other great powers.

Your country started the war and make Laos ppl died. Now you have these words, so mercy of you and your US of A, huh

@@lucisleesion8824 the documentary says north Vietnam were the ones violating Lao neutrality first. They were driven out by the pathet lao not the Americans. I was not alive when this war was fought, but it is possible to do better in the future. The film says our two people are bound together which is why I wanted to recognize the Hmong veterans.

Yes the secret war that involved many including the hmong are not taught today in school. I hope that changes one day.

That's interesting.

My father's friend served in Vietnam as a medic flying around in a helicopter. He told me more than once about hearing about bombs dropping in Cambodia over the radio while he'd be flying around. He had no doubt that it happened, and often.

It’s sad how many young men were recruited to fight in wars they weren’t even aware of. They were truly just pawns in a game of chess. It’s also horrendously sad to see how noble the cause of _Containment_ was, but how terrifyingly criminally it was carried out.

Bob Dylan wrote many great songs that era. One being “pawns in their game”.

@Akira M. ,, America's involvement in Laos' civil war was kept very secret. Not even Congress knew about it until later on, and definitely not the American general population.

Yes they sure do take advantage the government takes full control of sending soldiers to die for nothing in 1/2 the wars we were in if not more. Those young men died for evil old men that make money of conflict and anything they can get their hands on and our soldiers suffer

@@retrospecative2454 They died so you can make idiotic statements like that on the internet from your smartphone while you sit on your couch in your three story air conditioned house

have you got your booster yet

@@rockwellrhodes7703 Yeah, there hasn't been a single war to give us the freedom we love so much. Ooh wait.. keep making idiotic statements. That's what our brave soldiers had died for. Americans may not agree with your speech, but we will fight to the death to protect it.

Amen. ✋📖🇺🇸📜🗽⚖️⚔️🦅

I believe it's _"Only_ _the_ _dead_ _have_ _seen_ _the_ _end_ _of_ _war"_ - Plato

Sorry sir. Wish you the best and peace in your life, wish many warmongers and chickenhawks would hear stories like yours so they can stop glorifying violence and war .

I'm sorry u had to go through all that mystery this God loves you and so do I don't worry you'll be in heaven soon please never commit suicide get help please you're too beautiful of a person thank you for your service in Vietnam

If only you'd listened to your Dad

you really cant make this up. the racist white-supremacist ameriKKKunts, commiting innumerable war-crimes, criminally using neutral laos and cambodia as staging and operation areas for criminal incursions into vietnam, criminally recruiting clueless child-soldiers from laos and cambodia to their certain death into vietnam, now produces a documentary with Timeline trying to show them as the VICTIMS???? when the USofAsshats dropped MORE BOMBS on laos and cambodia, than the ENTIRETY of world war 1 and world war 2 COMBINED on ALL SIDES??? when laos and cambodia wasnt even in ANY WAR??? FFFF YOU.

@@thekaizer666 they are talking about someone that literally fought in the war, not the ones who created the conflict goofball.

The fact the U.S and the Thai officials tried to cover the truths about the Horrible Conditions of the camps in thailand, were locking the hmong up in the gutter with barwires, like war criminals. such a shame to see that..with many hmongs died of illnesses.

God bless him!

@@platypus3328 Mom and Dad have passed on. One event over weeks was when he was hunted down by the Pathet Lao and North Vietnamese only to escape in the end, made him famous in the clandestine world. He even parachuted into Communist Mainland China on rescue missions and escaped out of it. Dad was incredibly brave and immensely kind and loving. He went places where other would not dare to go. He did a lot of surgery and wound care "behind" enemy lines for the Hmong. He hated Communism with a passion. He saw first land how evil it really was and continued to be. The Communist did unspeakable things to all ages of the Hmong.

My dad probably one of the few trained by your father then. Glad to know. After he finish his training, he was send to the field for about 2yrs and left me my brother and my mom with my grandparents back in the village

@@beethao4145 there were not many if them, men like my dad. He trained all your medics. Also many in crew served weapons, booby traps and explosives. There was a man left behind, abandoned, and had to run and hide for weeks, yet, in the end, escaped. That was my dad.

@@beethao4145 many came to the Washington DC area, Prince William County. I translated for many of them while a parsmedic firefighter. I would be easy to remember: I was the only one. Some remembered my dad and told me stories about him. I was planning on going back but it all fell apart in April of 1975. So, I stayed in America, now retired as a firefighter-paramedic and emergency manager, disabled with a broken back but, I can walk again. My sons became U. S. Marines, went off to Afghanistan to kill Taliban terrorists: and they did. If anyone deserves entry into America it is the Hmong, Yao and other Tribal People that fought Communism in Laos and the mountains of Vietnam.

No, that's a crime. BTW, the CIA using child soldiers...that's a War Crime.

Lol 😂😂😂

They don't want talk about it ... its painful even after 50 years ... but it must be discussed and taught so we don't forget.

That be too inappropriate anyways.

If only your country could mind its own business and stay out of the war business.

@@ASimon-ut2xe if only a man can make a comment to honor good man without some Karen coming along trying to get a fight started

@@nemolambert5450 Read the book War is a Racket Written by WW1 US Military General Wake up

Agree with you 100%

@@ASimon-ut2xe Thats basically what the guy is saying mate, That he's ashamed his country that can't even say thankyou for your service. For some of these people who payed the ultimate price.

Your grandfathers service is not forgotten by this American. It's a crying shame the US Gov't turned it's back on our Laotian allies, and that they are still persecuted because of their war-time alliance. God Bless you, and your family.

America will use and discard other countries like trash

@@keeftaylor834 I didn't even know about it until today. But my Chinese friend's friend is a Laotian nurse. Is that why they got here?? 😐😐😐

@@donwan2637 You mean the Syrian Kurds?? We had to do that to keep the Turks in NATO and our ally against Russia. The Afghans and the South Vietnamese were pretty lousy allies. They deserve what they got. 😐😐😐

@@John77Doe everywhere we go we destroy and that is sad 😔

Yes the hmong were used as puppets. Didn't matter which side they were on, they were only pawns... it's sad when you dig deep as a hmong person into our history, always being used as puppets.

False. We saw the opportunity to get out the hood and we took it. Look at us now, and look at them now. See the difference?

@V P each clan has their own political motives

It happened in the middle east too.

The United States has done this to its minorities for centuries, Blacks were used as cannon fodder to fight the Koreans, Japanese, and the Viet Cong. And at first as Mountain men, mercenaries and scouts, later Buffalo Soldiers to fight Indians and later Pancho Villa in the Old West. Neither of these groups ever hated black people. Same with Japanese Americans and the Navajo Code Talkers in World War II. Imperial Japan never hated its Japanese American cousins, and they were curious about the "red Indian" and Black people. The Emperor of World War II Japan often asked about them. As usual these minorities were never honoured for their brave deeds for the United States. I've seen Mexican veterans literally serve the in military, just to either die in Iraq or Afghanistan, fighting poor angry non white people who did nothing to them. Angry that the United States destroyed their countries. Or to be deported to Mexico many having been born in the United States.

Same here.. but we landed in Australia instead. Grandpa waa a helicopter pilot with 3 stars. We have hes portrait and he looks just like me. We are lao people tho not the hmong people (i dont even know their history and why they chinese)

let me guess, your family moved to St Paul

I hope your friend forgives himself, he wasn't responsible for the choices his leaders made.

1000% Agree

Start by recognizing your own people.. like the American Samoans and Puerto Ricans

huh, your US of A heros in Vietnam war...

The least you owe them is to get rid of all the unexploded munitions that your country dropped on their country that continue to maim and kill them. Over 40 years later you've still not cleaned up your mess.

@@dannnsss8034 is there an issue with Samoans and Puerto Ricans being recognized for their combat related sacrifices? If you are talking about making them States... The Puerto Ricans refused statehood.

@@StefanMedici I agree about the munitions. My support for these Mung fighters is in no way support for the Viet Nam war. The US government certainly showed they have no problem with committing war crimes

No offense sir but the reason why you lost the war is because of your fellow Americans.

Thank you for your service...The Royal Thai Government did honor the Thai Veterans for their commitment in the vietnam war in Laos, supporting General Vang Pao's Military in Military Region 2. Thai Military and Royal Lao Military, Strong friendship Neighboring country allies.

God Bless your Father, my he #RIP

Agree, give out the Hmong their G.I benefits...The U.S Government promised them to take care of them, promised many things.

Amen

The French still had that Imperialism attitude after WWII, this conflict changed their attitudes about old ambitions.

@@DoomshopMF312 Exactly. I feel the Brits were actually performing thier duties of peacekeeping while the country developed a centralized government, while the French were soldiering to be a large part of that government 🤦‍♂️ of course guerrilla groups are not going to like that and easily gain more fighters and support.

For some dumbass reason, France lacked the "win the hearts & minds of the people" mindset.

The french brought Catholicism to Vietnam. Loas was growing cocaine and bringing it to Vietnam. Ngo Diem, the newly elected Catholic president of Vietnam, was for the South Vietnamese, who were the farmers and also Catholic. He was against the cocaine trade/smuggling. So was JFK. The North Vietnamese, was Buddhist, wealthy and for communism. 2 weeks after Pres Diem was assassinated, JFK was assassinated. CIA was brought in to facilitate Laos cocaine to here in America. From that moment, the drug epidemic began in full force in America. War on our own people.

It's never too late to learn. It is not impossible. I myself am learning how to read hmong and write a little.

@@mrvang8077 True I do have some time after work

It is true that the Hmong fought bravely. It is also true that they fought against their own country. Many Lao national still consider them traitors since the communists won in the end.

That's awesome! Courage and bravery flow through your veins. It would seem he's a very intrepid man, your Father. Be blessed through his sacrifice.

@@obadiahkilgore2964 Sacrifice for what? US imperial interests.

He was a conventional soldier? R.i.p..but why was he in Laos? I thought u.s wasn't "supposed" to be there. Was he SF?

@@cparisi6048 nope..regular Army

@@aliuli657 no for the anti communist cuase

@@lovemeboy291 silence harlot

Lot's, and we all pretty much know implicitly what they are doing. Fact is, we support all of it because we assume it benefits us. America runs on the assumption that the DOD, and now the DHS as well, operate with the core unwavering value that their actions will benefit America.

talk about the Disgraceful of abandoning Afghanistan to the Taliban Terrorists lol...history repeats what the Radical Leftists are doing.