The Untold Story of the Frostsaber

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9 ай бұрын

Hi !
The small faction found on the Frostsaber Rock in the northernmost point of Kalimdor, called the Wintersaber Trainers has been there since World of Warcraft's beginning. Being as old as it is, the faction has seen numerous changes, some of which most of the playerbase are not aware of.
I hope you found this video interesting, and thank you a lot or watching - If there is something in the story that you like in particular, or something you would like to see done differently, please let me know :)
The video is part of the playlist called "WoW - History", which can be found on my channel
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🎵 Song: Alexander Nakarada - Adventure
🎵 Song: World of Warcraft - Winterspring Ambience
🎵 Song: Alexander Nakarada - Woods of Imagination
🎵 Song: World of Warcraft - A World Divided

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@Spartan12 9 ай бұрын

Always liked that idea that players could have the freedom to leave their chosen faction, wouldn’t really help gameplay wise, but having a group of players being a neutral faction seems more fluffy and gets at that RPG feel

@spindoggytheexplorer2915 9 ай бұрын

Yeah this is what I wanted to see from cross faction play, maybe a few quests to assassinate high value targets in the opposing faction to earn the trust of that faction. That is in the event of leaving a faction and joining another. Seems like common sense to allow these kinds of choices at this point since they already threw the faction war in the trash made the game World of Peace craft

@KevinArcade87 9 ай бұрын

@@spindoggytheexplorer2915haha yea imagine if they would make it possible to join another faction through an extreme long grind

@jameschristophercirujano6650 9 ай бұрын

Remember, the quests in WoW are often faction locked. So this wouldn't work.

@DivineBanana 9 ай бұрын

Old-school EverQuest was alot like this. They went deep into factions and reputation.Your race, class and even religion all played a role in which cities and factions were hostile to you and there were hundreds of different factions. You could usually find ways to grind rep to become friendly to enter the city, or interact with merchants, quests, trainers etc... OR you could just roll an enchanter, which can use illusion magic to disguise as other races, which automatically changes your reputation to what it would be by for that race, or cast other spells like "benevolence" on an NPC which gives a temporary faction increase, which allowed evil races to enter good cities and vice versa without any rep grinding whatsoever.

@qweasdzxcname 9 ай бұрын

look for player DoubleAgent.

@roffe8751 9 ай бұрын

It is a common misconception that high elves became blood elves when they joined the horde in tbc. They became blood elves all the way back in the wc3 tft, long before wow was even released. Some of them remained high elves though, which are the ones that are alliance friendly.

@jigsaw6954 8 ай бұрын

Had no idea it was a misconception in the first place, but i grew up playing warcraft 1, 2 and 3

@dartimes6048 8 ай бұрын

Blood elves have a massive magic addiction. High elves do not. Blood elves have a magic addiction because of how plentiful and how much they use it.

@dartimes6048 8 ай бұрын

Blood elves also drank from the corrupted sunwell which caused changes to them.

@KalmoK 8 ай бұрын

High elves are just evolved Kaldorei who left after The Sundering when using The Well's powers were stopped. Illidan gave them a bottle of water from the OG well which they used to create the Sunwell and continued to live with it's energies. But the Sunwell wasn't as powerful as The Well of Eternity so they got shorter and pale, now calling themselves High elves and later Blood elves after humans used them as cannon fodder and slaves against The Scourge and they left The Alliance.

@KalmoK 8 ай бұрын

@@dartimes6048 Actually High elves are the same as Blood elves, they changed their name after leaving Alliance. High elves evolved from Kaldorei when they left the rest, who now are called Night elves, to continue using Well of Eternity's powers by creating The Sunwell... I don't know where you get that shit but I literally grew up with Warcraft series and later WoW, plus I'm a lore nerd and Blood elves are my favorite faction in the game, so sorry but nope

@oJackOfSpades 9 ай бұрын

I farmed this during vanilla 2019. Was on revered when I gave up in original classic 2005. Bruuutal grind.

@DrPluton 8 ай бұрын

One other thing that made the Wintersaber unique was that it traveled at epic riding speed without requiring epic riding. I never got the mount until Cataclysm. I remember flying out from Theramore over 20 days on my mage to get it.

@jared4832 9 ай бұрын

The fact that it had no armor was precisely what motivated me. Ground it out just before Burning Crusade. Still my favorite mount.

@guyfromostrava 9 ай бұрын

Exactly that! Same here

@deeDafydd 9 ай бұрын

Ah, Winterspring and the Frostsaber. So many fond memories.

@niallmurray6089 9 ай бұрын

Your writing has evolved so much. The documentary style works super well

@Valtrass69 9 ай бұрын

I had this mount in Burning Crusade. I farmed every single day the same quests. It took me around one or two month to obtain it. No days missed. It was horrendously long, i didn't think i could make it but i did...

@mdg8919 9 ай бұрын

Another great video well done, great info

@TurbotarzanWoW 9 ай бұрын

Thank you, happy to see people find these things as interesting as i do

@DeyanMatunovic 9 ай бұрын

One of my favorite mounts next to Black Onyx. Great video

@dogxa7566 9 ай бұрын

i love watching your videos! I learn so much about wow

@TurbotarzanWoW 9 ай бұрын

Glad you like them, there will be more :)

@Holdtheline07 27 күн бұрын

I remember a vanilla hunter friend doing this grind. He was constantly in winterspring for like 6 months. Insane grind, and always someone competing for spawns

@NevanSlone 9 ай бұрын

I wish they’d bring back the negative rep aspect. Such a forgotten tool

@TurbotarzanWoW 9 ай бұрын

Agreed, i get that balancing it can be complicated, but it really gives that rpg feel

@the1abstrakt 9 ай бұрын

Jesus this was something locked deep in my memory, that tunnel running into Winterspring was fun

@nyxantv5481 9 ай бұрын

I really enjoy your content. :)

@TurbotarzanWoW 9 ай бұрын

Happy to hear that :)

@joe19dp 9 ай бұрын

Wanted this mount so bad for the longest, finally got it many years ago now

@fizzypie18 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video :) I remember getting this mount with my dad, back in probably TBC or WOTLK. I loved the quests.. probably because I was like 7 and just saw a cute kitten. :D

@Brandwein42 2 ай бұрын

As someone who got the mount in BC times and then later lost my account email access during hiatus, one of the first missions on my new account was to get this mount. Second was the netherwing drake. In hindsight when i came back in Legion it WAS way easier, but i never questioned it.

@hotlikesauce 9 ай бұрын

my only goal in HC classic is to get this mount before dying to a DC 😭 can see the mount model in Darnassus as well, behind the tree of the Druid trainer. cool lil foreshadowing of what could be your mount!

@chesucat 8 ай бұрын

The Horde version of this quest is down in Un'gora and they will want to farm Ability mount raptor [Ravasaur Hatchling] and do dailies for Ability mount raptor [Whistle of the Venomhide Ravasaur] in this zone. In addition, circling the border of Un'goro is an excellent way to farm Inv ore thorium 02 [Thorium Ore].

@austangmane7292 8 ай бұрын

Cool!

@ogunquit5 8 ай бұрын

When I first hit 60 in 2005 I grinded this mount every day. I made one of my friends help me do at least 10 quests every day before I would go with him to UBRS, or Dire Maul - spending most of the weekday afternoons that summer in Winterspring. I was the second person to get it on the server and I became good friends with the guy who was the first as he and I encountered each other routinely and would go down to do the giant quest. All that said, the biggest regret I had was my GM offered me a free epic mount before I got it - I could have gotten the Ancient Frostsaber which as of when I stopped playing WoW, was the only mount I wanted that I never got. The Frostsaber was also no longer my biggest mount achievement as when I finally got Al'ar, I remember being so happy. I didn't even use the Frostsaber at the end - I had replaced him with the original ZA bear.

@leandromartins4505 9 ай бұрын

Nice🎉

@Noriaela 9 ай бұрын

I'm not sure why but your content really reminds me of Hayven Games

@PatronusGaming83 9 ай бұрын

I like the idea of player ran factions independent from Horde or Alliance. Similar to what happens in EVE Online, but fantasy world.

@slob1105 8 ай бұрын

Most players haven't done 550 quests before 60 Me sitting here at level 51 with 1050 quests done

@violetlight1548 9 ай бұрын

I was thinking of actually getting an alliance toon to 50ish in Turtle WoW and trying for this mount. Nope! Thanks for keeping me from wasting my time!

@annekekramer3835 9 ай бұрын

It's 840 turn-in. If you want it, do it slow and steady, for example 10 quests per day. That's about 3 months. Or 5 quests a day for 6 months. If you are human, then it's 10% less of course, but then anything not NE musst also be exalted with Darnassus for tiger riding too.

@violetlight1548 9 ай бұрын

@@annekekramer3835 seriously? You need exalted too? That's so dumb, especially in Vanilla. It's not like mounts are that easy to get to begin with!

@annekekramer3835 9 ай бұрын

@@violetlight1548 Exalted Darnassus is easier. Just do all their quests in turn in runecloth for the rest of the rep. I would not worry about that part...

@annekekramer3835 9 ай бұрын

Oh, wait, that's in vanilla. I don't think that's the case on Turtle.

@melgibsonero 9 ай бұрын

You'll be grinding mobs for the quests anyway, so +800 turn ins is just extra while you grind xp

@TheBaldr 9 ай бұрын

Horde did get a faction equivalent mount when they when they redid the quests in Cataclysm. They got a similar quest line for a raptor mount in Un'goro Crater. I either got the wintersaber during BC or Wrath, I went to check on my character to check, and the achievement said 12/10/11, which is during Cataclysm, but on my Horde Character it says I go the raptor 12/10/11. I switched side so many time during that era.

@ehsper392 9 ай бұрын

They unlock simultaneously if you do either quest. Maybe that messed with the obtain dates

@HallsteinI 8 ай бұрын

Raptor was Wrath I believe. I had the mount, but quit before cata launched.

@muckymcfly 9 ай бұрын

I did this during TBC - great times.

@Chinamen 9 ай бұрын

Nice

@Kobiesan 9 ай бұрын

Did this grind during classic on a high pop PvP server that was Horde dominated. Worst experience of my life.

@MegaChickenfish 9 ай бұрын

840 turn-ins. Yikes. If you started doing that when Classic released, would you even have been done by the time Burning Crusade came out?

@exotixzamateurva8957 9 ай бұрын

That's be 280 days, so yeah.

@monkeyjames9285 9 ай бұрын

Something thought surprised have tried in retail at last part rouge order hall quest line kill fake Mathias Shaw but makes hostile players and guards in stormwind. Kinda surprised not been raid like 80 120 rouges seeing attack king assuming can here kill stormwind faction leader as alliance rouges trying do it

@thecreepycockney 8 ай бұрын

I was the only person in my guild back in original Vanilla to bother grinding this 😊

@stussels 9 ай бұрын

i did this in bc era. pre flight. lots of furbolgs died.

@pearofclubs6280 9 ай бұрын

More interesting story than the vanilla Ravasaur trainers had

@sindweller 9 ай бұрын

Would you be interested in exploring the story of how Blood Elves were initially intended for Alliance? I'm aware of the High Elves and them being friendly with Alliance but are there any other clues?

@tank29898 9 ай бұрын

their whole story is in WC3

@savuflorin6242 9 ай бұрын

@@tank29898yeah but the story in wc3 makes them not want to join the alliance

@mk_gamíng0609 9 ай бұрын

The story is that Horde players were complaining that all the sexy races were alliance So they gave them to the horde

@violetlight1548 9 ай бұрын

@@mk_gamíng0609 Horde races are plenty sexy! Other people are just uncreative. I like how Turtle WoW gave high elves to the Alliance and we Hordies got Goblins in vanilla

@ellescer 9 ай бұрын

@@violetlight1548goblins choosing a side makes no sense

@TrixAreForKicks 8 ай бұрын

"From place to place" dansker found

@Lohoris 2 ай бұрын

Wait, wasn't the horde equivalent the Venomhide Ravasaur?

@TurbotarzanWoW 2 ай бұрын

It didnt exist back then, but was eventually added in the Wrath of the Lich King expansion

@Hudiz1996 9 ай бұрын

Elsker din danske accent :D

@Pidbullz 9 ай бұрын

The smart players use a warlock at quest obtain/turn in spot and the quest areas to just summon back and forth. Probably worth lvling some lock alts for this or hiring guildies for afk goldmaking- lock alts op anyway to fast travel anyway anywhere after too!

@Alex876 9 ай бұрын

i did this before the dark portal happen

@MastaGambit 8 ай бұрын

I do actually have a very vague memory of way back in the day (maybe BC era???? hard to say...) when somebody I was talking to showed me one of their alts who they claimed to have gotten hated w/ alliance, I didn't believe them so I of course implored them to show it to me. And when I did see it, I just assumed he was cheating/hacking lol

@MrChiefjc 9 ай бұрын

Fruit stripe frost saber....

@Shizuka965 2 ай бұрын

i still think that blood elves should have been in the alliance

@TherikVanen 4 ай бұрын

I did this in vanilla 😅

@coryhafer7285 9 ай бұрын

So something unique and fun was taken away. Typical Blizzard.

@ianrastoski3346 8 ай бұрын

5:08 complete bollocks. You are making this up.

@shumba_the_don 9 ай бұрын

I did this on vanilla crazy

@Alexanderiii 9 ай бұрын

I remember grinding reputation with the Frostsaber in Vanilla. It took me such a long time and because mounts were not account wide, I actually did the grind with my alts. My main was was a leatherworker and I made some decent scratch selling rugged leather armour kits with all the leather I would farm whilst did the grind.

@rndmevil 8 ай бұрын

Holy shit! I barely kept my sanity grinding that mount on my main. I don't believe I would've managed on my alts. Also skinning/leather worker on my main so, that part didn't suck.