The Untold Story of Why Bruce Lee Left Ip Man's School

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Жыл бұрын

Why is it that every movie and documentary about Bruce Lee presents him as this gifted kung-fu prodigy who seeks out Yip Man at an early age to start learning Wing Chun?
They say things about how he's one of Yip Man's most gifted students, but they never talk about why Bruce Lee didn't really know enough Wing Chun to start teaching when he left Hong Kong for America, and they never acknowledge him leaving Yip Man to go study with someone else.
Why don't we ever get the real story about how Bruce Lee learned Wing Chun as a teenager in Hong Kong? I mean, what's the big secret no one wants to tell about why Bruce Lee left Yip Man's school?
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@GoldenbellTraining Жыл бұрын

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@milescoleman910 Жыл бұрын

I was over on Beerdy. I’ve caught him in some Massive fakes recently. But he now is talking about all the fights Bolo has had on the ETD set? I’ve been a devout fan for 40 years and never heard these stories at all. Now he’s saying he has a photo of Bolo bashing Bruce Lee to the ground. I think it’s doctored and it doesn’t show that at all but have any other life long real fans ever heard these Bolo vs Bruce Lee stories????!?

@jonathanrojas7121 Жыл бұрын

Golden bell training your on point it amazing how u find real credible sources when everybody like beerdy make huge fantasy of Bruce Lee

@mariospiteri8561 Жыл бұрын

@@milescoleman910 🤣😂 i am a bruce fan but i don't want to argue about this... The point is that that beerdy it's f... Crazy man 🙏🤣

@johnmatonne7834 Жыл бұрын

Yip Man probably caught Lee with his wife. Lee was a hound dog. In fact, he died in the apartment of one of his girlfriends. His wife was very forgiving the poor thing

@revariox189 Жыл бұрын

what karate school did Wong Shwn Leung fight?

@Quantum3691 11 ай бұрын

A critical piece of information which is not shared is the reason that Bruce stopped learning wing chun and not mastering it fully, was because he was forced to leave Hong Kong for the states due to his troubles with street fighting. His family, and mainly his dad, forced him out of the country to avoid being thrown in jail. That put a pause on his ambitions to training with Ip Man and his elder school buddies. While in the states, he realized the limitations of his wing chun training and it was at that point when he decided to dedicate himself to incorporating various fighting disciplines into his own art. I believe if he had not been forced to leave HK, he may have spent time in jail, or perhaps mastered wing chun, and very likely become a HK kung fu movie actor, and we may not have been introduced to him in the U.S. as the superstar he turned out to be. His global success is what paved the way for kung fu movies and the success of the likes of Jackie Chan and Donnie Yen in the U.S.. Such was his fate.

@Lektuerekurs 11 ай бұрын

This is what I heard/read as well. Also the part about him expanding his style in the US and exploring different styles. Makes you think though - what kind of person would someone have to be to getting problems from being in fights all the time...

@Quantum3691 11 ай бұрын

@@LektuerekursWell like many kids around the world, they develop a competitive ego and a chip on their shoulder which they express by fighting with other kids and getting into trouble with the law. In Bruce's case, he was a highly active kid who at times couldn't control his anger issues for whatever reason, and sought to take it out on other kids in the neighborhood. His family was well known and respected in the show business culture of Hong Kong and were "losing face" in the community. They felt embarrassed by Bruce's negative behavior. The last straw was when the authorities contacted the Lee family after Bruce beat up a powerful family's kid and threatened to throw him in jail if he didn't change his ways. That incident bought him a ticket out of Hong Kong for a few years and a new life in the states.

@eo7877 11 ай бұрын

The truth is wing chun does not work in a real fight. I think Bruce probably realize it and began exploring real fighting techniques.

@snowwhitever2336 11 ай бұрын

@@eo7877 the truth is u are a moron who doesnt understand how to train styles and how to make them work in real fight. you welcome.

@tinyraskalGz 11 ай бұрын

I don't think he mastered wing Chun. Especially fully as you claimed. How much can you learn in a couple years? Not all of it and not master all of it. It would be the basic fundamentals. Then just used it in a freestyle type instead of sticking to the ancient forms.

@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 11 ай бұрын

Fun fact: Wong trained as a boxer before coming to Wing Chun. I bet that hands-on practical training made his Wing Chun very grounded and real.

@WCtrainer1 9 ай бұрын

And he's the one that actually trained Bruce not Ip Man. Grand Masters never train new students, that's the job of the other senior students. Bruce also did not complete the entire system. In fact he only learned the first two hand forms ( Siu Lim Tau and Chum Qu) and half of the wooden dummy form. Which is the reason he was never allowed to teach since he never completed the system.

@dingfeldersmurfalot4560 9 ай бұрын

@@WCtrainer1 He only learned the first two forms, but that doesn't mean he didn't learn other techniques. One of which was biu-jee in a biu-jee/pak sao combination, which Dan Inosanto has said he was forbidden to teach students. Biu-jee, translated as different things but sometimes as "flying fingers," being the name of the third form. BTW, Wong's internet writings on his relationship with Lee, like those of Hawkins Cheung, make or very good reads from thoughtful, intelligent persons, and Wong also published an autobiography that made for a great read. David Peterson's musings on Wong and the way and substance of his teachings also make for great reads. To anyone who hasn't tried them yet, highly recommended!

@1888swordsman Жыл бұрын

Wong Shun Leung was amazing. I was privileged to meet and touch hands with him. He had such skill, control and speed. Best of all he was real, not some movie illusion that we get from the Ip Man films. He would insist that people learn the Sil Lim Tao inside and out, focus on this to develop skill, get this then Chi Sau for sensitivity and focus. Then learn to fight. Respect

@revariox189 Жыл бұрын

what karate school did he fight agaisnt?

@putinscat1208 11 ай бұрын

While Ip Man 1 was an interesting film, then deviate from reality heavily. I mean, Donnie Yen never shaves his head for one thing. Ip Man's wife never came with him to HK. His sons did not reunite with him until the 1960s, and they were pretty old already.

@hakageryu-hz7jz 11 ай бұрын

Sorry, but if you're not fighting after much more than a month of joining a gym/school you're probably not learning how to fight in a realistic situation at all. Sil LIm Tao? Insisting someone learn a kata/form inside and out as a prerequisite for fighting is pure delusion, but most Kung Fu is so drowned in tradition that most people will gladly accept whatever they're told. Not to mention a popular argument is both Lee Jun Fan and Wong Shun Leung having competed in boxing, which has evolved so much that comparing how they boxed to what the average well trained boxer today has is disingenuous. Love Chi Sau and Wing Chun, but the whole "Learning to fight is secondary to being able to defend yourself" is and always has been bullshit.

@chrisbach1533 11 ай бұрын

@@hakageryu-hz7jz And to add something which is always not mentioned by WIng Chun practitioners: Be it James DeMile or others from the Seattle era, they stated over and over again Lee found out many Wing Chun techniques dont work against men who weight 220lbs=100kg and more, so he changed certain things when he began to train with DeMile, Jesse Glover, Ed Hart, Skipp Ellsowrt, LeRoy Garcia etc., since those guys were much bigger and heavier as standard chinese people are.

@TOMMYBOY6969 Жыл бұрын

The real truth is that Yip Man would never throw cigarettes at Bruce Lee for kicking practice, you know how much a pack can cost lol

@OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 11 ай бұрын

Possibly dramatised but knowing what those Chinese masters are like who knows 😂 doubtful but a fun notion nonetheless

@eddieparker945 11 ай бұрын

Any Wing Chun practitioner / teacher would never that with cigarettes! That was to amaze the audience. For the glory of sensationalism 🎥

@timothyscott1951 11 ай бұрын

you act like they were lit 🤣🤣🤣🤣 and you don't know too much about real training 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@timothyscott1951 11 ай бұрын

pretty top man rolled his own , not nearly as costly , plus the cigs weren't lit , he could just reroll them later

@nostradamus522 11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂👍🏻 IP man was a chain smoker - he knows the price of the cigarettes 🚬 Very well.

@aquaticlibrary 11 ай бұрын

Wong Shun Leung is the unsung hero of Kung Fu. Dude was one of the last real deal heroes. He should honestly be as famous if not more than Ip Man.

@jkdfighter4964 Жыл бұрын

Interview from Wan Kam Leung, one of WSL's top students: Q9: How did it happen? Wan: It all started when Bruce asked my Sifu about his opinion on his kick. Sifu commented that Bruce retreated his hands/legs quicker than his punches/kicks. Bruce denied and claimed that both his punches/kicks hit and retreated equally fast. So, the two martial arts fanatics started to “Gung Sau” (talking hand). They first played Chi-Sau (sticking hands) and then Bok Gik (free sparring). To be fair, Bruce’s kick was really fast and astonishing. If they were in real fight, I doubt Sifu was able to take him down. Of course, they were sparring and not in real fighting. So, they did reserve their strength and power. Sifu was wearing a yellow long sleeve Montagut shirt and Bruce was bare-chested and dressed in a track pant. This gave him more freedom to move and execute his punches and kicks flexibly. Q10: Could you describe about the fight more specifically? Wan: Sure. Sifu used his favorite center lines to attack and close the gaps by moving in fast, forcing Bruce to move sideways and then backwards. However, Bruce was able to avoid all Sifu’s punches very easily. Bruce’s horse stance was amazingly agile too. Maybe he was training all the time, that’s why his reactions were fast and when he retreated or moved, all his steps seemed very coordinated and swift. Bruce told Sifu, “You cannot stand still if you intend to move; the heels must leave the ground and then, the steps will become nimble. Once the heels are not fixed to the ground, you’d have a greater mobility and your movement would be faster. However, once you are getting ready to fight, your heel should then avoid leaving the ground because your body will be “floating” if your heels leave the ground. And if so, even your punch has landed on your opponent, the destructive power will be much reduced.” What Bruce said really made a lot of sense to me. I learnt from their sparring and was inspired by Bruce’s words. Q11: What did your Sifu comment about this? Wan: Well, he quite agreed with Bruce’s point of view. Since Sifu’s “turning horse” was also not turning his heels but instead was using the center line to turn his toes and feet. This restricts and slows down his movement. Thus, he accepted Bruce’s advice and from then onwards, he adapted to this new changes. Q12: So, who won the sparring in the end? Wan: None. They were just sparring for fun. Due to space constraint, they moved carefully yet very fast and lithe. In fact, Sifu was more eager to take Bruce down but Bruce was able to tackle all his attacks and fought back with his fast kicks. Honestly speaking, Bruce’s skills and physical condition outclassed Sifu but to show respect, Bruce reserved his real ability to avoid hurting Sifu. I remembered after the sparring, both hugged each other. Bruce said, “Ha, your hands are still as fast as before and you are still very precise in your center line.” Sifu replied, “Of course, I’ve told you already and don’t forget I’m your Siheng.” Bruce smiled and continued, “But I moved faster and shunned your attacks many times. Sifu said, “You avoided once but you can’t avoid all the time…haha” Then both continued to squabble in a jovial manner. In fact, Bruce still respected Sifu very much?

@chrisbach1533 Жыл бұрын

In an interview here on KZfaq, Wan Kamleung stated they made an arrengement. Wong Shunleung would only use his hands, and Bruce Lee only his feet.

@nostradamus522 Жыл бұрын

Think when they have fought for real Bruce have won ! Both are very good but Bruce Lee have his fight studied, all his fight from the tournament that fought. It was to late to change all his style. Besides the fact that Bruce was much younger in 1973y Have read W.S.L. Interview that he gave, he was a bit afraid about Bruce. That interview was after Lee died. 😊 In my humble opinion

@johnmatonne7834 Жыл бұрын

@@nostradamus522 They never fought for real. Oh wait...hold on....are you one of those gullible sycophants who think Lee was a real fighter. Ha you are huh? LMAO 😂

@brookatkins8111 Жыл бұрын

Sifu Wan doesn’t adapt Wing Chun because of Bruce - you should go & train with Sifu

@maxhensley1685 11 ай бұрын

Matthew Polly interviewed Wan Kam Leung for his biography of Bruce Lee, and after WSL's death, he was less diplomatic about the outcome, saying that Bruce held back a lot on his kicks, but he applied liniment to his instructor afterwards, and saw how badly bruised he was, and said that if Bruce had been kicking at full power, his sifu would certainly have collapsed. That said, this isn't to take away from the fact that WSL was a martial artist of great accomplishments in his own right, and Bruce certainly still respected him as one of the people he owed most to in his development as a martial artist.

@kkamiya9038 11 ай бұрын

I agree with what's said here, as I'm a Hong Konger and my dad is a martial arts teacher, doing Seven Star Mantis and 六合八法. In Southern and Northern styles, when one starts to learn, you first go through the tea ceremony to declare your allegiance to your master, but usually, as this guy said, the senior students, or the Si Hing, would teach the juniors and new comers. My dad does this in his school too, coz he said by teaching one knows the style even more intimately. The student is still technically under the master, and only through demonstrating their skills, they may become accepted as the inner room students, or 入室弟子, and get private tuition with the master. There's even an extra privilege for the inner class, with the top of the inner class being able to meet personally with their Sifu's master, their Si Gung. I know this from my dad's recollection from his days training.

@vivafreedom4947 11 ай бұрын

Bruce was no longer allowed to train directly under Ip Man after finding out Bruce was not full-chinese blood (there are only 5 "closed door" students of Ip Man and Bruce is not one of them). Ip Man got Bruce to train with Sifu Wong and this is where the street fights began that lead to Bruce eventually laving HK for USA. The street fights came about by Bruce trying to test his skills while training under sifu Wong, not Ip Man (Wong was a street fighter himself, he learnt western boxing before he did Wing Chun). As David Peterson, another disciple of sifu Wong points out in at the end of IP man 1, HK was like a ghetto back then, this is also why HK wing Chun evolved differently to main land Yong Chuen. By the time Bruce was in USA there was no Wing Chun, so it's no wonder he had to stop because there was no one to train with or learn from (Bruce only made it to Chum Kiu form in HK, he did not learn the pole, the dummy form or the knives) We have Bruce to thank for bringing back starting to the martial arts, before then it was zero contact in competition and for bringing Wing Chun to the world. Wing Chun was closed to to non chinese before Bruce learnt and incorporated it into JKD (all of the moves begin with Wing chun to control the opponent then ends with flashy kicks).

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@joeallen5074 11 ай бұрын

The man is been gone for 50 years and his legend grows bigger than it was in the 70s. I'm still finding more amazing stories and firsthand accounts of his amazing life. He's a legend. Legends never die

@vivafreedom4947 11 ай бұрын

@Grandmastergav86 11 ай бұрын

I'd encourage deeper research, specifically in terms of separating truth from legend.

@powerbadpowerbad 11 ай бұрын

@@vivafreedom4947 One of Bruce's brothers said in an interview Lee would start stuff with people to test himself,this was just being a bully or thug as I see it.Yes,Bruce was a young man then,but,I can see now why his father sent him to america.

@davidwongwantho96 11 ай бұрын

I like you for being brutally honest about Bruce Lee and his Wing Chun training. Most of Wing Chun practitioners are wrong in the founding history of Wing Chun and they took pride that Bruce Lee raised the importance of Wing Chun. Really, they are so myopic in accepting facts.

@dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450 11 ай бұрын

Dude I am Chinese .. 40 years old… lived in HK for a few years.. Bruce Lee.. Jackie Chan.. Ip Man movie fan and I never even knew or heard about Wong Shun Leung before.. excellent content 👍👍👍

@jameskelly6479 Жыл бұрын

Movies seldom get anything right. They couldn't even get the ten commandments right even though its source was from a book anybody had access to: the Bible.

@davidlancaster8152 Жыл бұрын

The narrative for the original 10 Commandments with Charlton Heston was not only based on the Christian Bible but also the Torah and the Book of Jasher. There are discrepancies between these sources and Hollywood filled in the gaps. I agree with you that "true story"s of film land rarely are true.

@JasonJrake Жыл бұрын

I agree, but ironically Egyptologists love “The Ten Commandments” because apparently it gets the Egyptian culture more correct than any movie before or since, in terms of background details like clothing and dancing styles.

@paulgorman2801 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for setting the record straight with your videos regarding Bruce's training. There's interviews from people who were friends with Bruce like Hawkins Cheung (his best friend growing up), but this video really fills in the gaps by shedding light on all his teachers you mentioned (and how he gained skill so quickly). Your videos are spot on and you've really done your research. Plus: Wong Sheung Leung is finally given his due! ^o^ It's also really nice to see Bruce's actual family speak up and contribute. I know one of Bruce's brother's was a fencing coach and that's a HUGE crucial piece of important info that seems to get left out, as it's a BIG part of Bruce's "Tao of Jeet Kune Do," portion on passing footwork a la fencing. _^ ) Please keep making these, you've earned a subscriber.

@malachiseerisrael6 10 ай бұрын

lets not forget bruce was reading alot of books from different people this helped him develope his own Tao style system remember it was for him not everyone.

@chriskrueger8225 11 ай бұрын

I studied Wing Chun under a student of Ho Kam Ming who was one Ip Man's closest students. It was related to me that Bruce studied Wing Chun for maybe a year and a half. We have footage of Bruce practicing Si Lum Tao but that's about it. He offered to buy Ip Man an apartment to video and show the wooden dummy form,but Ip denied. As far as Bruce moving to the US because of his fighting. That is not true. He moved back because he had to to retain his citizenship because he was born there and had to do so while he was 18. As somebody that studied Wing Chun for 6 years, Bruce was nothing more than an intermediate. Yes he was great at what he learned but he did not learn the whole system.

@alexanders562 11 ай бұрын

This is consistent with many people from Wing Chun community, and other Kung Fu from L.A, have said. Bruce was a young actor and a cha cha champ in Hong Kong.

@chriskrueger8225 11 ай бұрын

@@alexanders562 exactly!

@carltonalexander946 10 ай бұрын

Boxing And Martial Arts Are For KEEPING Balance And Inner Peace.

@theJimKata 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting one of the few videos out there that tells the truth. I was a student of Jesse Glover in Seattle, he was Bruce Lee’s first student in America in 1959. I got to learn a lot about who Bruce Lee really was as a person, not the big screen Kung Fu star that we all later came to know. And yes, his time in Wing Chun was a few years at best, and mostly under Wong Shun-leung and William Cheung.

@davidlancaster8152 Жыл бұрын

Excellent! Thanks for always keeping the record straight. Your passion for the topic and truth is always evident. Thanks 👍👊

@johnmatonne7834 Жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@stanleyroberts4381 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the clarity 👍

@cookingwthechampllc3885 Жыл бұрын

The truth is never as entertaining as a story that's imbellished by movies 🎬

@johnpittsii7524 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the amazing video ❤

@mdanam Жыл бұрын

You know you've shattered Beerdy's entire universe with this particular video right? 😂😂😂😂

@GothamKnight84661 Жыл бұрын

Beerdy is sad now.

@Jim-sr2jm 11 ай бұрын

Bruce didn't complete his wing Chun training, and decided to take another route to expand on what he did learn from those appointed by IP Man at his school. Chu Shong Tin, Wong Shun Leung and William Cheung, all three have stayed that in interviews. Bruce never quit Yip Man or Wing Chun all who were around at the time state that Bruce was still a Wing Chun student at the time of his passing. He mastered what he did learn and always referred to himself as a student master. Hawkins Cheung and others have always maintained that Bruce never betrayed his master (meaning he never taught wing Chun as he had learned it) and looked forward to restarting this active Wing Chun training under his senior William Cheung and they spoke on the phone about it...sadly he passed two weeks after that conversation.

@jamesmeeks4852 11 ай бұрын

Appreciating you calm passion and insight FAM.

@marlonladd 10 ай бұрын

Great videos and thanks for doing these.

@mvwi1 11 ай бұрын

Appreciate this video. I learned a lot today.

@PERSONAL1OF9 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the clarity.

@James-dontgiveuponJesus Жыл бұрын

Being a second generation student of Ip Man myself my direct master was Jim Fung, I thank you for being real, and bringing out the truth, I hate these Chinese whisperers out there

@cowlico Жыл бұрын

Finally!! I knew this would come out!! Thanks!!

@NexTGeNEXpeRT Жыл бұрын

Always Happy to see truth being spread by you and not the fiction that everyone else posts building him up more then he actually was thanks for keeping it 💯

@firstname2853 11 ай бұрын

Great video bro thanks for the great work

@justinwilson5006 11 ай бұрын

Now THIS is what I'm talking about! Great vid!

@ZeroIQ2 11 ай бұрын

The only information I ever learnt about Bruce Lee was from the movies and random interviews with people that said they knew him. The "life" movies really bothered me because there were tons of conflicting information, so I never really knew what to believe. This is a great video though, I love the information you get into to. It's interesting to listen to.

@SuperMetalLicious 10 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video. Enjoyable and interesting and informative

@pepi666666 10 ай бұрын

I really like how objective the information is put on the table. Thank you for this video. I learned and have a better view, understanding about Bruce Lee and Ip Man.

@anthonyar3347 11 ай бұрын

I was fortunate to meet and have some training with William Chung, He still has Speed in his strikes Amazing!!

@thomasturner4253 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information

@eddieparker945 11 ай бұрын

I think Shannon gave the best description of Bruce's development as a martial artist. She's coming out with an another bio movie about her father. Her story , Uncle Robert & Aunt Phoebe movie gave the best account of Bruce'e Life. Other movies about Bruce's life while coming close to Lee's origins A LOT doesn't tell really show

@OLOHEKAI 9 ай бұрын

I trained with Wong Shung Leung in Hong Kong and what he shared supports what you shared about him working with Bruce Lee outside of the regular class. My actual Wing Chun lineage is primarily from zip Man to Tobert Yeung to James Sweet, John DiVirgilio, & Wayde Ching. My Jeet Kune Do lineage is through Richard Bustillo and several other 1st & 2nd generation instructors including Paul Vunak whose ad is playing now after your video, lol😂!

@ehisey 11 ай бұрын

The Ip Man fight in the movie against the boxer was actually based on Wong's fight with a Russian boxer, which he won. Bruce is pretty well documented as being a bit on the cocky side. But he was famous, so it kind is expected. That is absolutely true about southern kung fu schools, assuming a school is not getting started in a new place, the Master provides the lessons for the class, and then the senior students work with the lower ranks. In schools that use the Guest system this even more explict in that the Host students must properly teach the Guests before they are allowed to advance to the next level of learning with the Sifu typically correcting the Host when the Guest is messing up.

@joeysaturno8250 11 ай бұрын

Man Great stuff thank you

@milescoleman910 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this! Years ago amongst people who know I asked about William Cheung. The answer I got was that Cheung was a senior student and was teaching BL quite a bit. The books I bought in the early 80’s all agreed that he had a rooftop challenge match with a Choi Li Fut student ( fairly common ) and beat up a policeman’s son ( most books said Triad’s son but I feel they are possibly one and the same at the time ). Said That his dad said to use his American birth certificate and get to the states before 18 when it would change his immigration status. Would also help with any possible repercussions from whatever fight he had. I’m so disappointed with a particular KZfaqr posting garbage videos and claiming insider information about fights that Bruce has etc. your channel remains more evidence based and truthful. Cheers.

@jkdfighter4964 Жыл бұрын

It wasnt William Cheung, he's a fraud. It's Hawkins Cheung. Get it right. Both are Cheungs.

@chrisbach1533 Жыл бұрын

@Miles Coleman, since you seem to be interested in his fights, i think this is maybe interesting for you: John Little is gonna publish a new book in September this year. "Wrath of the Dragon: The Real Fights of Bruce Lee". This is the description: "Bruce Lee remains the gold standard that all martial artists are compared to. But could he actually fight? World Champions in karate competition have gone on record to point out that he never once competed in tournaments. Were his martial abilities merely a trick of the camera? For the first time ever, Bruce Lee authority and bestselling author John Little takes a hard look at Bruce Lee’s real-life fights to definitively answer these questions with over 30 years of research that took him thousands of miles. Little has tracked down over 30 witnesses to the real fights of Bruce Lee as well as those who were present at his many sparring sessions (in which he was never defeated) against the very best martial artists in the world. From the mean streets of Hong Kong, to challenge matches in Seattle and Oakland, to the sets of his iconic films where he was challenged repeatedly, this is the incredible real-life fighting record of the man known as the “Little Dragon,” who may well have been the greatest [street] fighter of the 20th century." He said in a podcast in all his stuff he brought togehter after all these years, he ends up Bruce's street fight record was 36-0, and his sparring record was 27-0. Among the guys he sparred was Joe Lewis, Hayward Nishioka, but also the professional Heavyweight Boxer Joey Orbillo. I know Lewis never admitted directly they sparred, but when you listen to all of his interviews, he says it indirectly, made comments like: "When he was in his alpha state of concentration, i couldnt touch him", or "I know how hard he hit because he popped me a couple of times." Little said in an interview with "Kung Fu Genius" Alex Richter, that Ted Wong and Herb Jackson confirmed him Lewis and Lee sparred. And Kareem Abdul-Jabbar laughed when he heard Lewis said they never sparred, because according to Kareem, Bruce showed him what to do, and he then sparred Lewis, and Lewis couldnt touch him (Kareem) anymore. Of course Kareem is 7'2"=218cm tall. Orbillo fought "Irish" Jerry Quarry in 1966. Quarrys credentials as pro Boxer: - 2 fights against Muhammad Ali, 2 losses - 2 fight against Joe Frazier, 2 loss - 1 fight against Earnie Shavers, 1 win - 1 fight against Floyd Patterson, 1 win Quarry was able to KO Earnie Shavers, who is today the leading candidate for being the hardest puncher in Heavyweight History by certain Boxers and Boxing Historians (Ali, Larry Holmes, Hank Kaplan, Bert Randolph Sugar, etc.), in the opening round, but Obrillo was able to go the distnace with him. Many Lee fans dont even know about Orbillo. They only know him as Joe Lewis Boxing Trainer. He KOed Lewis with a kidney punch which was even admitted by Joe himself. Little spoke with Orbillo. Orbillo told him he met Lee during a martial arts tournament and they both were visitors. They began to talk and when Lee found out Orbillo is a professional boxer, he liked it very much, and then they sparred. According to Little, Orbillo said: "I was in there with Jerry Quarry and i could hit him. But i couldnt touch Bruce Lee. He was in and out, in and out, i couldnt do anything with him". Unconfirmed which names will be in the book, but i guess besides Lewis and Orbillo, there will be a street fight with Lau Daichuen|Dai-chuen, Yoichi Nakachi, Wong Jackman|Jack-man, i think those three will be in for sure. Louis Delgado will be in there as sparring thats for sure.

@jkdfighter4964 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbach1533 Hayward Nishioka, the one who beat the Gracies in their prime in the 80s, was in awe of Bruce Lee's skill.

@chrisbach1533 Жыл бұрын

@@jkdfighter4964 Yes i know he was aware of them. Said he could never touch him or get close to him. But many Lee fans now about Nishioka, but many of them dont even know about Orbillo. Orbillo went 10 round with Jerry Quarry, and this Quarry destroyed Earnie Shavers (Muhammad Ali: "Shavers hit harder then Foreman, Liston and Frazier, he is the hardest puncher ive ever faced") in the opening round. So Orbillo was tough, and he like Nishioka said he could never touch Lee.

@islamsimo5332 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbach1533 thanks a lot it was very interesting 🙏

@EdTheBearsFan 11 ай бұрын

Good job in your research! Keep up the good work!

@frankmartinez4856 Жыл бұрын

Shannon was just very little girl!! Her late brother, really knew his dad 😅

@tonywalkingstick8883 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sticking with the truth of Bruce Lee and Master Ip Man. I truly hope and pray that you, with all these truths, would collaborate with the other students of M. Ip Man, and others you and others who knew and worked with Bruce would make a Real, Honest Movie about the Truths Of The Little Dragon, so worldwide people could and would know. I appreciate your dedication to Truth more than you know 💯 +. Please Consider this. Sincerely, Tony Walkingstick

@Yamagatabr 11 ай бұрын

Oh man you really did your research, this channel i amazing.

@StEvUgnIn Жыл бұрын

Most wing chun teachers assume Bruce Lee started wing chun at 13 but on the picture he looks 16 to me.

@StEvUgnIn Жыл бұрын

also he was a kid actor, so you can clearly see he was 16 on the picture

@glenrisk5234 11 ай бұрын

Interesting and makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

@juanadames1663 Жыл бұрын

The truly valuable thing in regards to Lee is that he was an AUTO DIDACTIC....which also accredits him with tremendous courage to face the classical mess and a strong revolutionary spirit which placed him apart.

@jessieodawa 2 ай бұрын

Well said once again spitting that knowledge Prince you alright! Great info true info!

@FightCommentary 11 ай бұрын

Good video! Glad you’re giving Wong Shun Leung the credit he deserves.

@luvzfrance24 11 ай бұрын

I loved that picture of Ip Man holding Brandon. He looks so proud and happy

@Speculativedude 11 ай бұрын

I really like how you approached this. As an American that has lived in China and HK for almost a decade at this point. One thing that has always stuck out to me was that, (at least as far as I've been able to find) Bruce Lee seems to have only studied under Ip Man (or at least under the school name) for about 2/3 years. That would make a lot of sense if he was still considered a "talented beginner" as you pointed out. It would also make sense that it would give him a solid base for his skills, but also allow him to see where he could use skills from other arts to not only fill in gaps in his style, but also make changes as needed.

@GoldenbellTraining 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing 👍

@vanhattfield8292 11 ай бұрын

The biggest benefit Bruce received from training under IP Man was to be able to make that as a truthful claim later when he was looking to validate himself and his own style. By making this valid claim, he receives some the respect that IP Man worked for for his entire life just by association. Bruce definitely knew how to promote himself in the best ways possible.

@robd1329 Жыл бұрын

I have to see that Bruce Lee movie told by his brother and sister. That sounded more believable of his upbringing

@alwaystheone Жыл бұрын

Of course the movies are not true they are just entertaining and that why I always do my research of outside biopics.

@patrickmoreau7592 Жыл бұрын

Great video

@SkipinlLA 11 ай бұрын

I met a CLF sifu in Hong Kong who said Bruce Lee trained with her and her husband ay their school in HK. I met her in 2019 she was 86 years old she showed me some forms while waiting for the train.

@Yodakaycool Жыл бұрын

Finally Woohoo!

@ramondiaz2851 Жыл бұрын

Good video!! & spreading the truth!!

@myfriend280 Жыл бұрын

Great information. First and foremost. Secondly, I’d say it’s a bold reach to pick a random number of rooftop fights that Bruce engaged in. You’d be just as bold to pick a low number as to pick a high number. Nobody really knows. My own way of thinking about that question is this… first start with the fact that Bruce told those close to him that he did indeed have such rooftop fights. Whatever the number, it’s likely that he did. From there I use my personal experience to deduce that he was generally an experienced street fighter, partly because he reminds me of people I’ve encountered in life who were born to fight and indeed they did. And partly because everything he chose as effective fighting techniques for Jeet Kune Do is indeed highly effective. I think Bruce was able to make such brilliant deductions about what works and what doesn’t because he was drawing off of significant street fighting experiences. Like I said, whatever the number.

@GoldenbellTraining 11 ай бұрын

Rooftop fights were not what you think they were 👍

@myfriend280 11 ай бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining A street fight is a street fight.

@samuraikyokkan 10 ай бұрын

this is a very good video

@putinscat1208 11 ай бұрын

If you read books, you can get the story. Bruce didn't start learning until the mid-1950s, cause he lost some fights. William Cheung was his friend, and told him about Ip Man. Before 1960, Bruce beat up the son of some British official, and left for his birth place in San Francisco. After Brandon Lee was born, Bruce went back to HK. There is a picture of Ip Man holding baby Brandon. Bruce offered 10,000 to film Ip Man on the wooden dummy form, which he lacked in its entirety. Ip Man refused, cause no other student had such a thing. After Bruce returned to the US, he started teaching his own style and no longer Wing Chun. According to William Cheung and others, Bruce was beating up students in Ip Man's school. They found out his mother was half white, and told Ip Man not to train him. William Cheung says Ip Man told him to continue training. I have heard another Ip Man student say something similar. William Cheung claims he was taught the 'real' Wing Chun style, and could not teach it while Ip Man was alive. And could not show Bruce the reason he was frustrated with the system. Bruce went his own way, and William Chrung has a school and claims to know the 'real' Wing Chun system.

@FunkyBukkyo 11 ай бұрын

We need more historians like you that would clear up what are facts and what are fiction

@mizukarate Жыл бұрын

I am a karate student with some Chinese Martial Arts training. I can see how stories get changed around like we see here. Good research and video.

@rwl0323 8 ай бұрын

Love it!

@pilot8220 11 ай бұрын

You just earned yourself a sub. While I enjoyed the films about Bruce Lee, like Dragon and the Ip Man films, I knew that they weren't 100 percent accurate, and took them as loose adaptations. I never knew about Wong Shun until now. Great work

@powerbadpowerbad 11 ай бұрын

Yes,loose adaptations,these films are intertainment only.I learned about Bruce from reading books about him and watching some documentaries.

@josephperkins4857 Жыл бұрын

Actually in the early 90s the magazine Martial Arts Masters ( or legends) meantioned Lee's time training with Yip Man and training with other's

@juliusnyny 11 ай бұрын

I so appreciate your research and setting the record straight. I'm annoyed at the people that question Bruce Lee's authenticity as a fighter since I was a young kid during that period and starting taking Kung-fu back then as a result. I'm definitely going to look more into Wong Shun Leung. Thank you!

@gnicevids Жыл бұрын

You should do videos on Wong Shung Leung

@toxiccylon Жыл бұрын

Yes please

@james1795 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate the work you have done to research the facts.

@gabrielramirez1024 11 ай бұрын

Always love the reminder to breathe😌

@ISZAudio 11 ай бұрын

He didn't move directly to Seattle. He moved to SF first, in early 1959, living off Jackson street. A lot of folks gloss over his time in SF like it didn't happen, but his move to Seattle didn't come for months after that. The rest of this is solid, though I wish you'd mentioned Leung Sheung who first invited Yip Man to teach at the RWU

@GoldenbellTraining 11 ай бұрын

That's nice 🙂 Thanks for sharing 👍

@ISZAudio 11 ай бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining hey sorry I wasn't trying to rag on your video or anything. Genuinely enjoy your content whenever I see something pop up; you tend to have one of the more levelheaded approaches to analysis. My Sifu went to St Francis Xavier with Bruce during HS, they moved to the states at the same time too. That's the only reason I know about that stuff, and I consider myself very lucky to be able to hear those old stories. Sorry if I came off as rude.

@darthclone7 11 ай бұрын

I love this!!

@vernonb.5285 Жыл бұрын

Bruce Lee's daughter Shut down said none of those movies and documentaries hold no truth. So she's coming out with her own. It's in the works, right now.

@GothamKnight84661 Жыл бұрын

Yeah.....Sure....Right a 1000% truth that Bruce also did drugs, had other women on the side and among other things??? Ha ha ha, I don't think so!

@GoldenbellTraining Жыл бұрын

Yes, I covered this back in January. Video has just under 1 million views.

@aquaticlibrary 11 ай бұрын

Shannon Lee puts her foot in her mouth sometimes. The HK movie was based on a story by Bruce’s Brother which is probably the only film about him that is fairly accurate.

@RadicalTrivia Жыл бұрын

I'm of the opinion that no one can truly understand a topic until they teach it to others.

@chris55529 10 ай бұрын

I was always too fascinated with the martial arts than to actually take the time and effort to *learn* them, and that's on me, but I really like your channel and you should be proud of your work.

@johnthomasjr.5421 Жыл бұрын

In movies they put anyting that they want in it. Especially biblical movies. Now according to what I have read, Bruce Lee got beaten up in school pretty bad. His gang members helped him out. Bruce thought what if his gang members are not with him at the time. What would he do? Bruce Lee start walking to the park and saw people doing some kind of exercise with bare hands. He wondered if that could be speeded up. So someone told him there was a teacher named Yip Man that knows martial arts. So Bruce Lee went to his father and ask him if he could learn martial arts. Bruce Lee's father told him that he could learn martial arts as long as he keep his grades up and don't get into fights. Yip Man knew Bruce Lee father. So Bruce kept his grades up and did not get into any fights. So later on Yip Man taught Bruce Lee Wing Chun. And then later on Bruce Lee did the movies.

@Red23165 Жыл бұрын

Thanks ❤

@saptarshimandal611 Жыл бұрын

Nice Information, Love from India...

@garyg9484 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Brother I am with YOU

@rotorairgroup8409 10 ай бұрын

So what you are saying is that you heard that Bruce had a lot of inner dojo challenges with other students but nothing competitive or sactioned against professionals. Nothing changes. He was just an actor playing fighter characters. Xu xai dong proved how dangerous real Kung Fu masters are by beating many of them. Thank you for confirming what we already knew.

@GoldenbellTraining 10 ай бұрын

No, I didn't say that "I heard that" ar all. I haven't confirmed anything 🙂

@CarlosPerdomo 11 ай бұрын

Love watching your videos as much as watching Bruce. 🌝

@Ming1975 11 ай бұрын

There were older documentaries that was closer to the movie by his brother & sister. Officially Bruce was a high school boxing champ, and there was this one footage Bruce fighting in those roof top and got toppled. You can never learn to be good if you've never lost before. He is human and I'd say he probably died trying too hard like what Chuck said, also I believe in that theory he might have experimented drugs too.

@GoldenbellTraining 11 ай бұрын

It's not a theory

@thorael Жыл бұрын

namaste

@tinyraskalGz 11 ай бұрын

William cheung who is in Melbourne Australia, was the senior who taught Bruce at Ip Man’s school. William is such a humble guy. I wrote him in the late 80s as a 10 year old and he actually took the time to respond to me. I actually kept the folder till now with the letter there

@aquaticlibrary 11 ай бұрын

False, it was Wong Shun Leung. William Cheung was around the same age as Bruce and was a junior student at the time as well. He’s gotten caught in several tall tales.

@tinyraskalGz 11 ай бұрын

@@aquaticlibrary by "taught", it doesn't mean he has to reach him everything. If you have taught on behalf of the teacher, then you can officially claim you taught them. Like if I teach you a Hadoken one day, teach a class next week, then I wouldn't be wrong to say I used to teach you. People put their own opinion on what certain words mean in what context. Chinese have a saying, you teach someone for a day, you are their teacher for life. He went to Wong later, but for the duration before we went under his wing, even another student, even if still a junior student if true, would/could still teach him the basics and fundamentals as an older aged teacher would barely have the time to spend on new students and often would have another student teach and tutor the basics until they get a good grasp of the basic forms and stances etc. Do explain why you think he is lying and your source.

@NNamesis 11 ай бұрын

I think your channel is the real deal together with Sifu Alex Richter aka The Kung Fu Genius, in telling the truth about Bruce Lee. I'm a student of Sifu David Peterson who is a student of Sigung Wong Shun Leung in Malaysia. Thanks for setting the record straight. Godbless

@haroldquesnel8275 7 ай бұрын

There's also the massively unknown, underrated Karateka Kevin Thompson from Newark, NJ who made the cover of Black Belt before Bruce even became a household name!

@DenshaOtoko2 Ай бұрын

Bruce Lee had 5 known fights maybe 6 including 3 on the set of Enter the Dragon, One on the set of The Big Boss, one vs Wong Jack Man, one with the Kowloon tigers and one in a boxing match at St. Francis Xavier high school. So 7 recorded fights maybe 8 fights on including at the 1964 Long Beach Open Karate Tournament.

@stormboy1517 9 ай бұрын

gosh, i didnt even know he was a child actor, explains alot now in hindsight

@erictbrown1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks great information

@rickeymckissick2065 Жыл бұрын

You’re right about that cause I’m trying to do my research but in different Martial arts you tell very interesting fact

@mdrake36 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the real truth

@JohnLaFosse 3 ай бұрын

I think leaving or an absence from a teacher or a school is what it is. The first lesson that a student learns is lifelong. So, ‘leaving’ isn’t a disconnection.,

@davidtrani190 11 ай бұрын

Love you brother. Break the spell.

@nebriancoleman4704 11 ай бұрын

You know growing up in martial arts I would have thought this wouldn't have needed an explanation but after listening now I get it. I grew up in a martial arts school taught by my father's top student. He has his own School but I am still my Father's son. Because of that it kind of places him in the senpai category like an upperclassman they are just as much your teachers as the grandmaster of the system. If you learn from the founder of a system you kind of learn that system by default, or like a Koryu art. I come from a family of martial artist my father trained with Leung Ting and William Cheung his opinion on Bruce Lee is that the most overlooked teacher of his is Wally Jay...

@josephperkins4857 Жыл бұрын

The problem with the Wing Chun narrative, is that according to Jesse Glover in his book "Between Wing Chun and Jeet Line Do", before Lee learnt Wing Chun he studied Hung Gar Kung Fu

@GoldenbellTraining Жыл бұрын

That's not a problem. I already covered this topic last year.

@shadowspear899 Жыл бұрын

@@AjaychinuShah what does that have to do with the discussion of when Bruce Lee learned Wing Chun!?

@aquaticlibrary 11 ай бұрын

How is that a problem lol

@juliansawyer9845 11 ай бұрын

Great video 💯 truth I am descendent I am a Sifu under William Cheung you are spot on sir!!

@jdaywork2693 11 ай бұрын

John Little has a book coming soon concerning Bruce's fighting record.

@GoldenbellTraining 11 ай бұрын

No, John Little has a book coming out about Bruce Lee's real fights and challenges.

@jimthompson8947 11 ай бұрын

Title: I believe, for whatever reason IP Man's tie had broken, Bruce had moved on, the way he described "the boat to be discarded". Legend.

@Simon2k17 Жыл бұрын

I don't know about the part about William Cheung being good during that time period. Yip Chun in a video made fun of William for being lazy. He said William may have some skill now, since being a teacher makes your learn the art in a different way, but back in the day, he would never show up to class, always out drinking and sleeping with tons of women. William has this carefree attitude because his father was the police chief. Wong Shun Leung also made fun of William for exaggerating his stories. Apparently William said to a news paper columnist that he could take more than 30 guys with knives. Wong Shun Leung was like, let's say this actually happened, I highly doubt he had the time to count. As for me, I told them I took on ,6 guys with knives, they couldn't touch me.....because I was really good at running. LOL. As for Bruce's Wing Chun...he wasn't very good when he got to Seattle. Bruce's father (chinese opera singer) had a coworker that also worked on the Red Boat. His name was Fook Yeung (chinese opera acrobat). He knew Red Boat Wing Chun and countless martial arts. He trained Bruce in Seattle. Jesse Glover mentioned him, Linda mentioned him, I also personally asked Taki Kimura about Bruce training Red Boat Wing Chun in Seattle. He also verified it.

@GoldenbellTraining Жыл бұрын

Yip Chun wasn't even in Hong Kong until after William Chung was already in Australia, but thanks for sharing 👍

@Simon2k17 Жыл бұрын

@@GoldenbellTraining partially correct. Although Ip Chun and Ip Ching moved to Hong Kong in 1962, while William left in 1959, they would visit their father from time to time before that.

@gnicevids Жыл бұрын

Amen finally the truth 🙏

@tfmg2313 11 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say he ditched Ipman, but just like an event in everyone's life , it was a step in his journey which help create the person he became. He also trained in many other styles , likewise he didn't ditch those instructors ,he just learned all the skills and made it into his own.

@GoldenbellTraining 11 ай бұрын

No one said Bruce Lee ditched Yip Man