The Very Real Physics of Tenet Explained in 7 Levels

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Charlie Peterson

Charlie Peterson

Күн бұрын

Time bends right? So can we tear it?
Unfortunately not.
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@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Arrival Video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qruqn5edltHZpI0.html Nerdy Time Essay: cgapeterson.com/essays/ai-and-the-myth-of-progress Become my *second* patron? www.patreon.com/ThatMakesSense
@joshalgeo5014
@joshalgeo5014 10 ай бұрын
Sator blabs to himself when he performs the pincer movement. The movie handles minor changes to the timeline in different ways. The bullets they catch aren't always the bullets they fire. In one loop Sator sees the hand-off and then does another loop to burn the car. That didn't happen in the first loop. Time is a giant, complicated mobius strip where all paths pass through one point in time which would be the invention of the turnstile.
@Eimerian
@Eimerian Жыл бұрын
This is actually rare, a good woo-free explanation of the double slit experiment. Kudos! So many people, even physicists, are spreading the "Deepak Chopra interpretation" of quantum physics, talking about how the attention of a consciousness collapses the wave function...
@rottensquid
@rottensquid Жыл бұрын
Regarding where how the bullet hole was in the chair from the point of manufacture to the point where Mr. Battinson's reverse gun pulled it out, another video essay had a notion, maybe implied by the film (?) that reversing entropy in an object reversed the flow of cause and effect for it. So a bullet traveling back in time causes a backward entropy effect by putting a hole in the forward-moving theater chair's wood. But what the other essay suggests is that the prevailing winds of forward entropy erases that reverse-entropy effect on a forward-moving object. This is also why reversing Kat's entropy would turn a lethal reverse-bullet wound into something that doesn't just heal, but is erased. When the Protagonist, moving backward in time, is stabbed in the arm by himself moving forward in time, that forward-moving wound fades quickly into non-existence in his backward-moving arm. From his perspective as he moves backward, he notices a few hours before the stabbing that there's a pain in his arm, then a hole in his jacket, which get worse and worse leading up to the point when the stabbing happens. Had the forward-moving version of the protagonist continued to watch his reverse self, he'd have seen the stab-wound soon fade into non-existence. Just as Kat's bullet-wound faded into non-existence. Just as the opera house chair's damage would fade in reverse, until that bullet hole was no longer there. Because the chair's forward-moving entropy, and the forward-moving world around it, would overwhelm the reverse-entropy from reverse the bullet. Anyway, that's the theory. As for the bullet itself, it presumably would continue to be inside the wood, traveling backward, until the tree is reduced to a seed, and then lay there in the ground until reverse-entropy turns it to dust. Of course, this theory doesn't explain why Kat's wound didn't appear before she was shot, only to disappear when the reverse bullet passed through her in reverse. But perhaps that's just down to the particle/wave observation phenomenon. It happens one way or the other because that's just how it happened. Which is handy plot convenience. Don't try to understand it. Just feel it.
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. The joy of this movie is using real and interesting science ideas to create a different new flavor of the fictional spy thriller. Which of course involves purposely introducing a point where hard science turns into spectacular artifice, on purpose. 👌
@rottensquid
@rottensquid 2 ай бұрын
@@sub-jec-tivI mean, it's still very much science fiction. Scientists in the real world still don't understand what time is enough to be able to say whether it can be reversed in anything. We don't know whether time causes entropy, or entropy causes time. That said, this is the delight of Chris Nolan's approach. He has this very grounded style, with which he explores wildly non-grounded concepts. It's the marriage of the two that makes his movies so intriguing. Perfect example is the introduction of science fiction two thirds through The Prestige. It's a jarring left turn in an otherwise grounded story about creating the illusion of impossible things. But that was the point.
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
Quantum erasure experiment: its not a wave, its a wave function in mathematics. The knowledge of the path is the independent variable
@musicmanalex1
@musicmanalex1 Жыл бұрын
Hi, you have a well produced video, I have some feedback as someone who has studied physics: 1) you are correct that most physical laws do not have an arrow of time, however the second law of ther dynamics provides an error of time. The statistics in statistical mechanics are not actually the fundamental laws. They are a way of modeling our knowledge about a system in a manner that agrees with the laws. However the laws are more fundamental. 2) I appreciated your critique of the movie’s annihilation problem with regards to antimatter 3) Your discussion of QM and Wheeler’s delayed choice lacks connection with experimental conclusions. Yes it can be pointed out that quantum mechanics is far from being fully explained at this point. nevertheless it has been shown that retro causality is an illusion. quantum mechanics makes statements about averages and probabilities of repeating experiments many times. in essence, it is nearly impossible to explain a specific single event using the current formulation of quantum mechanics, hence why most physicists do not even attempt to do so. 4) The historical background on the Dirac equation and Feynman diagrams was well done 5) finally, while I will admit my bias in that I do not like the many universe interpretation of quantum mechanics, I appreciated the way you presented it in an honest fashion.
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah The arrow of time stuff is very heavy and confusing. I think you and I are on the same page about it ultimately. And yeah I am not a believer in retro-causality. I hope it didn't come off that way talking about Wheeler 😱 Thanks for the feedback and hope to see you around the internet :)
@Allahu_Akbar_the_one
@Allahu_Akbar_the_one Жыл бұрын
Thank god! This type of explanation I was looking for.
@TreArtist
@TreArtist Жыл бұрын
“Robert Batmanson” lmfao Snuck that joke in there… I laughed pretty hard. 😂
@photelegy
@photelegy Жыл бұрын
19:30 The best example about this (in my opinion) is the building in the end fight which they explode the top in forward time direction and the bottom half in the back time direction. So when has it been built just hapf with the rest building on the ground? 🤔😅
@roadnottaken2780
@roadnottaken2780 2 жыл бұрын
Dan Simmons, in his sci-fi Novel series Hyperion Cantos, already mentioned things like anti-entropy , things travelling back in time, etc. I think Nolan may be aware of his Novels.
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh love it. I might have to check that out. Have you read Children of Time? I’m halfway through and it’s blowing my little brain apart
@LuckFx
@LuckFx Жыл бұрын
@@ThatMakesSenseToMe I'm guessing you're done by now. What a ride Children of time is. In case you still haven't read the Hyperion Cantos, I too heartily recommend it. It's an awesome book!
@mindset9102
@mindset9102 8 ай бұрын
@@LuckFxany other recommendations ? I’m on a deep dive with time travel related work and I’d love to be a bit more knowledgeable about any (any GOOD) books that involve it.
@LuckFx
@LuckFx 8 ай бұрын
@@mindset9102sure! If you're deep into the topic you've probably read some of these, but some recommendations of mine would be "The End of Eternity" by Isaac Asimov, an absolute classic. Maybe a bit dated by today's standards since the tech described sounds very oldschool (published in 1955) but still holds up because of the quality of the story, and it's a relatively short read. Then there's "Tau Zero" by Poul Anderson, which is not strictly time travel but has a lot of time shennanigans going on and is a great read. Another book I love is "Slaughterhouse Five" by Kurt Vonnegut, which is also iffy on being actual time travel (I won't go into detail so as not to spoil anything), but the story is so good it's just worth picking it up. There's many more, but these are the three that impacted me most so it's what I got for you. Enjoy!
@NickTeran17
@NickTeran17 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I liked the movie did hint at particle physics and just blew up what happens at a quantum level to a much larger aspect.
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Right? It's fun when they do that. Makes it feel more real and possible. Better than just saying made up science words. Hope you get a chance to check out some of the other videos.
@victorcarillon1284
@victorcarillon1284 6 ай бұрын
Amazing video
@arivertoeveryone
@arivertoeveryone 3 жыл бұрын
hey there :) really didnt expect you to have worked as a physics teacher! that was a pleasant suprise maybe a little suggestion i really really like how you try to one-take all your audio (i despise overly cut ones) but maybe you could do a compromise between one-take and the overly extensive cutting cuz around 15:50 you can hear how you have some minor issues talking so you could cut around there and start anew its just my opinion and maybe you have some reasons you want to stay it that way :) other than that it was really nice to get to know some experts opinion on this movie i especially loved the start "i have seen a lot of explanation videos around tenet, and most of them are awesome" it just stresses your positive energy keep it up!
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Can I take a masterclass from you in how to give constructive feedback in an approachable way? This was the nicest possible critique in the entire universe. I *do* try to one shot the audio, and I *do* appreciate that you notice. But I 100% can do some more cuts here and there if there are issues popping up like they did this time. Thanks for watching and commenting and keep the thoughts coming. I'm still new at this and want to learn as much as I can. :)
@flagshipaniketpalei7515
@flagshipaniketpalei7515 3 жыл бұрын
good explanation..!!!
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!!
@josuepereira3673
@josuepereira3673 9 ай бұрын
Dude this is awesome
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 8 ай бұрын
Well thank you!~📚
@-q-b0_1
@-q-b0_1 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understood something about time electron etc... 👍👌
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@gosnooky
@gosnooky 5 ай бұрын
How can we reconcile the conservation of mass/energy when two copies of the same person exist in the same time?
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 5 ай бұрын
In the real world? You can't. You'd have to pour several atomic bombs amount of energy into the creation of that amount of matter. We only make anti-matter in very small quantities at particle accelerators. And if it was actually a person made of anti-matter, they would explode violently as soon as they contacted regular matter - i.e. air, the floor, any objects. Also the idea that anti-matter is the same thing as regular matter just going back in time is a fun idea, but isn't real physics. For reasons no one totally understands, the real universe has much more matter in it than anti-matter. So it sadly doesn't add up.
@nightmalebeast
@nightmalebeast 2 жыл бұрын
Wheeler talked about absolutely mathematical solutions to Feinman'' s equations
@marketingopswill2738
@marketingopswill2738 10 ай бұрын
then how would you explain stephen hawking saying time travel to the past cannot exist because you cannot have a copy of yourself at the same time since it breaks the rule of mass cant be created or destroyed? how can you say that this is completely accurate
@lcako1616
@lcako1616 8 ай бұрын
But in this case wouldn't the mass have been transferred rather than created since its not like they teleport to the past
@codenameicarus
@codenameicarus 3 жыл бұрын
Your H2O molecules are... funky.
@evilbrox1801
@evilbrox1801 Ай бұрын
the inconsistencies don't end there, to me it's weird that a person can be shot from a bullet that is in a wall traveling backwards towards the gun, well what if the person that is in the path of the bullet is wearing Kevlar and the bullet stops, the relationship between cause and effect can't really be maintained in this movie but they ignore a lot in order to sell it, also what if you would be a reversed person and use your weapon to remove the bullets from a person that is dead, as we see when a bullet get's removed from a medium and goes back into the gun the medium gets restored, does that mean that the person that is shot would be brought back to life? that's one more thing that is not clarified and kind of paradoxical
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe Ай бұрын
1000% It all breaks if you think about it too hard. The bullet fragments have to just … always be there. Like for how long? When the drywallers and painters and builders put up the wall 40 years ago? It doesn’t make sense but is visually stunning and fun as hell.
@GigiofGigi
@GigiofGigi 3 жыл бұрын
this was great post movie while i was still itching for the physics of it all after they cut riigghttt when they were getting to explaining it lol
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Right? Like they stopped short every time
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
Physics = physical. Time is not physical. Time is a concept.
@OnlyKoolaid
@OnlyKoolaid Жыл бұрын
Holy shit... :O
@movingforward6104
@movingforward6104 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@charlielyth1982
@charlielyth1982 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this! It is a weird ass film. With your physics and philosophy background, what are your thoughts on spacex and Musk's plans to colonize mars? What (if any} are the big ethical problems you have with it, eg maybe only accessible to rich privileged?
@ThatMakesSenseToMe
@ThatMakesSenseToMe 3 жыл бұрын
Um I have SO many thoughts about Elon. You have epic timing. I *already* have a outline of a video planned about his flavor of techno-utopianism compared to a group I'm calling realists. I don't want to totally flame the guy though. Innovator types definitely can add a lot to the world, but it definitely doesn't always work out for everyone. Thanks for watching. Good to see you name in the comments again :)
@alexandravalerious3274
@alexandravalerious3274 3 жыл бұрын
ive always thought that developing another planet without fixing the problems here on earth wont change things. also if elon establishes colonies: people would have to work there to make it function for idk the rich people who could afford it and being that far from earth seems like a senario ripe for work abuses (elon is very anti union) which seems that living there would be like living in a company town where he could esentially just pay workers in company money (google this. it happened so much in usa)
@raezor82
@raezor82 Жыл бұрын
Kung Fu Field Theory
@Nia-zq5jl
@Nia-zq5jl Жыл бұрын
11:00
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
Show me spacetime, then show it bending 😆😆😆. This is ridiculous!
@joelaw999
@joelaw999 2 жыл бұрын
Professional explanations! Sounds better when played at 0.75 speed
@DeSpaceFairy
@DeSpaceFairy Жыл бұрын
And backward.
@klarsen91
@klarsen91 10 ай бұрын
Algorithm!
@ShotPackage
@ShotPackage 2 жыл бұрын
Algorithm
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any scientific evidence of gravity?
@nightmalebeast
@nightmalebeast 2 жыл бұрын
You're not explaining anything,b you're just making everything harder
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. A coffee cup can never assemble itself. The 2nd law of thermodynamics, entropy will increase, not reverse. You're a joke
@AbilashSathesgumar
@AbilashSathesgumar 2 жыл бұрын
@derek chavez he mentioned saying that time travel is not real but it is for example if you go faster than light you will go back in time
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbilashSathesgumar any demonstration of this? Any evidence for the speed of light? 😆😆😆
@AbilashSathesgumar
@AbilashSathesgumar 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMoshady photons can go at the speed of light itself
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
@@AbilashSathesgumar the speed of light is calculated using the distance to the sun. Nobody has ever measured that distance. Speed of light is bs
@AbilashSathesgumar
@AbilashSathesgumar 2 жыл бұрын
@derek chavez what i am saying is that if you go at the speed of light time will stop relative to everyone else's time meaning it is a form of time travel to the future and if you run faster than the speed of light time will run backwards which is a form time travel to the past however it has not been done or experimented because you would need infinite energy to do that.
@SuperMoshady
@SuperMoshady 2 жыл бұрын
"If an anti-butterfly popped in the world..."? 1st law of thermodynamics violation. Are you actually teaching people this stuff?
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