The Vienna: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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Ай бұрын

The Vienna Game is a 1.e4 opening for White. Compared to other 1.e4 openings, the Vienna is much less common but theoretically sound.
This lecture was recorded on Monday, April 22, 2024. Thank you to Christian for sponsoring this lecture!
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@WhizzerdSupreme Ай бұрын

Yes, finally!! The Vienna needs more love ❤

@somethingironic2227 Ай бұрын

my thoughts exactly

@f.d.3289 Ай бұрын

it does get mine... i actually played the King's Gambit when I realized that I really like the so-called Mason-Keres variation (2...exf4 3.Nc3). And then I thought hey, why not play Nc3 first. And actually I have gotten interested in the Jobava-London where you also play 2.Nc3. Very underrated move, this 2.Nc3 :)

@howardgraff4084 16 күн бұрын

Shhhh! ;)

@f.d.3289 16 күн бұрын

@@howardgraff4084 😂😂😂

@adomaskuzinas2137 Ай бұрын

Finally Ben mentioned Australia!

@michaelgraflmusic 29 күн бұрын

As an Austrian, I too am happy that it was mentioned.

@andreitiberiovicgazdovici Ай бұрын

I had three ancestors in the family who fought for the Austro-Hungarian army in the First World War; however, I grew up in Italy as an Italian... and therefore I prevented my nostalgic grandfather from whistling the "Radetzky March"😂👍

@subhankarbhadra781 11 күн бұрын

Thanks to the person who sponsored. Really nice.

@nunosantos4217 Ай бұрын

As a Vienna enjoyer, I was delighted by the lecture and learned quite a lot. I usually like to play either the Gambit or just go into a Vienna Hybrid, gonna look into some of these other stuff. It's refreshing to see someone talk positively about the Vienna. The general sensus seems to be, if it's not popular it's bad, cause if it was good it would be popular. It reminds me of a lecture that you made about the Scotch, where noone was playing it until Kasparov started demolishing everyone with it. So it really might be a fashion thing, until then, Im happy staying under the radar. If anything, in my opinion (which is worth nothing) the Vienna could be seen as a great opening for beginners because of the lack of theory. You actually have to learn to play the game instead of just relying on theory.

@kodybrown9228 Ай бұрын

d3 may be the third best move but it’s definitely the most fun.

@howardgraff4084 29 күн бұрын

Thanks Ben. A very good lecture that is worth more than one viewing. (BTW, you forgot to mention that I'm not Ben Finegold.)

@thenoblegnuwildebeest3625 Ай бұрын

The Austrian's greatest trick has been convincing the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Viennese.

@playermartin286 Ай бұрын

Anybody who isn´t American knows this is not true

@crazymulgogi Ай бұрын

Wasn't that Mozart (who was German by birth)?

@user-ec3co8rs5t Ай бұрын

Mozart wurde im Fürsterzbistum Salzburg geboren, das erst nach den napoleonischen Kriegen nach Österreich kam.

@dantepilgrim Ай бұрын

Nigel is a legend! Thanks for the video Christian ❤

@sar14cos 25 күн бұрын

Good Lecture, and very good choice of games. In French it is called Partie Viennoise and une viennoise is also a pastry.

@f.d.3289 Ай бұрын

heeey how nice, another opening lecture by my favourite GM Ben Finegold, plus it's about my favourite 1.e4 opening with White :)

@davewolf6256 Ай бұрын

This is important for me because I play the Vienna 99% of the time I open--but my understanding of the theory is garbage.

@julianpilbrow4963 Ай бұрын

This is taking way too long and is the reason why they banned 2-way-coms because people can press their eyes right up against the LCD.

@JeffPHamm Ай бұрын

I enjoyed this a lot. You touch upon some interesting ideas that I think often get overlooked, specifically the idea of "fashion" in terms of openings chosen by top GMs being different from the "objective truth" of an opening. I think it would be interesting to hear your own personal thoughts on openings/lines that are underplayed relative to their ... quality? (objectively they are good, but they get played far less than perhaps they should type thing). That's sort of one message of this lecture, but it's specific to the Vienna. I'm sure it's not the only one.

@calvinthegreat69 16 күн бұрын

A couple years ago I gained about 300 rating points online with the 3. bc4 variation. I'm pretty low rated so I found it very common to either see people over extend trying to target the bishop or I'd have time to f4, nf3, and castle. If you can set that up, you can get a really nice king side attack. Would recommend at low ratings.

@mcronrn Ай бұрын

There are fun lines where the Vienna transposes to the Nc3 (??) Kings Gambit Accepted… 😳🤣

@chadmacgargle5311 Ай бұрын

Very cool games Ben!

@jeffreyfisher3115 Ай бұрын

But you know that when the truth is told That you can get what you want or you can just get old You're gonna kick off before you even get halfway through, ooh When will you realize Vienna waits for you?

@sublimeade Ай бұрын

My favorite GMs opening GothamChess

@aarons3014 Ай бұрын

Eric Schiller's Wikipedia article is one hell of a read. FWIW I knew him slightly, and he was nice to me the few times we interacted.

@kingberzerk Ай бұрын

33:43 in the Dracula Frankenstein "12...h6 to stop 13.Bg5" - not the only obvious move for Black.

@tomrockefeller4620 17 күн бұрын

I was hoping to see how the sausage is made.

@iniohos2 Ай бұрын

We want Karen to give a lecture.

@ganeshsankarasubramanian142 19 күн бұрын

Was half expecting obvious sattorov joke

@johnmahugu 18 күн бұрын

This is how to study chess properly.

@MuseseekerMan Ай бұрын

As a Vienna player myself I love Bc4 after Nc6. I'm surprised you didn't cover it.

@nunosantos4217 Ай бұрын

I play those lines as well. I think he didn't cover it because those aren't "true" Viennas and usually will go into Vienna-Berlin Hybrids (with moves like d3 and/or f4 and some point)

@Sandfox07 Ай бұрын

My friend also really likes playing that, he actually switched to the bishops opening because you can easily transpose, but you also have the option of not comitting Nc3. You could try it out too if you want

@cliz1989 Ай бұрын

Frankenstein-Dracula ?? Gad damn!

@trmble6 28 күн бұрын

I can hear the sadness in Ben’s voice

@vaccaphd 29 күн бұрын

I think Kortchnoi played it against Karpov. Not sure.

@maxneparewak Ай бұрын

i got cooked against a vienna at a club tournament yesterday so i guess it is good for club players. ben is right again

@josephboyne9327 27 күн бұрын

Hello from Oklahoma! Did not expect the shout out in this video. 😅

@AboveAvgMan Ай бұрын

I meet the vienna with 2. B to b4

@King.Mark. Ай бұрын

Are they real books made from paper from a tree that once grew on earth then filled with taughts from a human put into words made from real letters 👀 but not the kind that need stamps ?

@IRailroad 12 күн бұрын

😊

@baoboumusic Ай бұрын

Go Christian! But stay here!

@answeris4217 Ай бұрын

Toronto Eh.... Did you find a Vegan Poutine?? That would have shown Nepomniachtchi who's boss...

@paparatzz7531 Ай бұрын

Debashis gets bashed in this video

@atwarwithdust 28 күн бұрын

You know you can edit Wikipedia articles, right?

@PKloc Ай бұрын

Looks like you losing weight and looking good… nice job.

@AdwaityaSahay Ай бұрын

Third😂

@vartananq Ай бұрын

First

@daniellamprecht1566 Ай бұрын

These comments are always funny, except for one thing...

@shun0011 Ай бұрын

why do you always look so sad

@baoboumusic Ай бұрын

Chess players are always sad. If you lose you're sad because you probably blundered, if you draw you're sad because you could have won, and if you win because you could have won quicker.

@WhizzerdSupreme Ай бұрын

Yes, finally!! The Vienna needs more love ❤

@AboveAvgMan Ай бұрын

I meet the vienna with 2. B to b4

@pointlessmike Ай бұрын

You don't mind Nd5? Gains a tempo and allows the queenside pawns to expand while harassing your bishop. Also Qg4 might be annoying.