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@jessie96533 жыл бұрын
I was suicidal, very depressed, started taking vitamin D3 and my mind became so clear, thank God for vitamin D3. It saved me
@daxd83583 жыл бұрын
Many of people had the same outcome , well done 👍 and continue getting better.
@jessie96533 жыл бұрын
@@daxd8358 thank you ☺️
@TheKitty19523 жыл бұрын
odd how the medical establishment is so willing to prescribe Prosac with all its side effects, but never give a sideways glance at nutrition, especially Vitamin D. No downside except you might feel better and no longer need prescription meds. Hurrah for you.
@bighands693 жыл бұрын
@@jessie9653 Most western depression is caused by indoor living. Which results in lower vitamin d and a compromised metabolism. Combining vitamin d with exercise and being outdoors with a good diet is a great strategy.
@jessie96533 жыл бұрын
@@bighands69 absolutely
@ayputs67723 жыл бұрын
Regardless of which side you're on, can we just take a moment to appreciate this debate - conducted with mutual respect and class? Well done. Great segment.
@out_spocken Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think the thing with these types rather than being 'interviewed' is that they are actively in discourse and not trying to trick someone into saying something for a gorchya moment or to prove the other absolutely incorrect in their views. It's a discussion. Every discussion will be respectful and civil. Otherwise it's either an argument or some form of deception. But agree. It's always lovely hearing opposing arguments discussed civilly. Something I admit I havent mastered.
@melissastanton6616 Жыл бұрын
Agree- how refreshing to have a considered- non biased discussion
@siypic Жыл бұрын
Exactly......
@siypic Жыл бұрын
@@out_spocken So very true.
@Noneofyourbusiness-rq9jq Жыл бұрын
you must be used to watching americans debate . this is quite normal.
@gartht65363 жыл бұрын
The best 'proof' of not being a charlatan is by having an open debate. Well done, more of these please, I love it. No winner or losers, just shared knowledge.
@melissabennett11682 жыл бұрын
Its refreshing isn't it?
@ucsales1892 жыл бұрын
Very good quote sir
@Qualityselection2 жыл бұрын
Very good observation. If that attitude would be more common in people, things would be a lot greater. Dr. Campbell invites other health specialists to his videos and always acts in a humble way. He makes questions to the other doctors, in a way that all of us can learn from it. Of course he knows the answer, it is that he promotes the “learning” as his goal. I am so thankful to him for sharing his precious knowledge to the general public an people that want to learn.
@alfredopampanga93562 жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed. Dr Campbell speaks for a lot of people who love “ boosting” their health with nostrums. The same people are far less interested in exercise
@Hugh_de_Mortimer2 жыл бұрын
@@alfredopampanga9356 I would argue that he speaks to their disinclination for exercise and desire to supplement their way to good health but disagree that he speaks for them when he himself has put forward the benefits of exercise and good nutrition.
@janlaan72363 жыл бұрын
At 81 I had the covid in June '20.HAve been taking D3 at around 4kIU with Zn, Mg and Se for years daily.Was cripplingly tired for 5 days and that was about it.No fever, no cough, no respiratory problems and no medical help needed whatsoever.
@Qualityselection2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing. That is very valuable information. May I please ask you if you could let me know the amounts of the other supplements/vitamins that you took? Thank you.
@heatherizzard22892 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@robynemelton59602 жыл бұрын
@@Qualityselection ?
@0150Tricia Жыл бұрын
My husband and I taking similar supplements - we're ages 79 and 86. Neither of us have been ill, no covid, no flu for three plus years. I definitely take Campbell's side.
@ppmppm7010 Жыл бұрын
You were thankfully very lucky
@TheKitty19523 жыл бұрын
My son was a submariner; he spent 3 months under the sea without sunshine. The Navy does not supply supplemental Vitamin D for these men during these voyages. We had packed him a "midway package " with 5,000IU Vitamin D capsules. He said his mood improved greatly.
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
Great idea that kitty well done hopefully your son will pass on the tips best wishes from Glasgow scotland stay safe 👍
@fatbelly273 жыл бұрын
That doesn't surprise me. The Navy should really look at this.
@sailorgabbie3 жыл бұрын
That's great! Submariners do suffer greatly from depression.
@007nadineL3 жыл бұрын
Shame on the navy !!!
@AtheistEve3 жыл бұрын
Did he open his midway package midway through the voyage? And did it also contain well-wishes and gifts from his family? A lift in spirits could be caused simply by being reminded of home and loved ones. Just a thought. Needs to be double blind with placebos.
@kardste81143 жыл бұрын
I started supplementing Vitamin D four months prior to getting Covid19 infection. My blood levels went from 30 ng/mL up to 75 ng/mL recently tested-My Covid infection included chills, fever, muscle aches, loss smell, taste, congestion, but I never had to go to the hospital despite living in a disabled body with a compromised respiratory system. I continue to work on my gut microbiome. Thanks John Campbell and Tim Spector.
@SpectatorAlius3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of gut biome, Dr. Spector mentioned it and said nothing about *how* to do it: the only means I know of is to eat fermented foods, especially yogurt, but also cheeses, sauerkraut, kimchi and who knows what else. He should have said more about it.
@actyrrel3 жыл бұрын
Love that you took responsibility for your health. We can all do better given whatever body we have.
@Ottee23 жыл бұрын
@@SpectatorAlius , He does go a little more into *how* in their last discussion about the microbiome. That was a couple of weeks ago.
@rogerd76463 жыл бұрын
How much dosage d3 did you take?
@crabjoe3 жыл бұрын
The majority of people that get Covid don't end up in hospital. For the vast majority, it's like a 48hr flu. Still, no one wants to be to one that end up very ill and possibly dies. I knew 1 person that got covid.. she passed within a week of symptoms. Everyone else I know that caught it (I'm talking positive PCR test) thought they had a minor cold. One friend woke up fatigued, but by the next morning, he felt fine. That evening he couldn't smell or taste so he went to get tested. He tested positive.. He got his smell and taste back within a week. Another friend was fatigued and had a bad headache for a couple days. When that went away, he lost his taste and smell too.. so he got tested.. positive again. It took him a month from his positive test to get his smell and taste back. What I've found, at least with my friends is that they generally only have symptoms for 3 to 4 days max, and they all think they caught a cold... until they lost either their smell and or taste.. thats when they go for a test. BTW, most of the people I know that tested positive are 50+. I know a few in their 20s that tested positive and those fools had me laughing. One had diarrhea for a week... and all I heard was crap jokes for a while.
@annettesanders78913 жыл бұрын
Years ago, the old matrons of the hospitals used to insist on moving the patients outside in their hospital beds to get fresh air and sunshine. Perhaps they knew more than we gave them credit for, and maybe this would benefit patients today.
@edd48753 жыл бұрын
During Spanish flu. Hospitals found they had a much better treatment response when they put patients outside. They always used to have windows open too. Doctor's used to prescribe open air treatment for TB
@annettesanders78913 жыл бұрын
@@edd4875 yes and today the windows are generally kept closed in hospitals . I don't know if this has changed since covid.
@loverofthewordofgod41562 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I will continue to take vitamin D and take Zinc when run down and feeling like about to get sick. We were never meant to be inside as much as we are.... I have crooked legs from growing up in Northern Germany, dark and little outside, of course no supplementation. My hubby has been through cancer.. .... one common factor of most or all cancer patients? Miserable vit d levels. Please nobody listen to the simplistic views of this doctor at the end . There is so much more research than he has. The real money is being made on cancer "treatment", Meds for autoimmune diseases, depression etc all of these can be prevented by good vitamin d levels. It's laughable to talk about money being made on pretend needs of vitamin D. Yes, supplements are good while also eating healthy and while cutting crap food out.
@TeresaStAmant Жыл бұрын
I am a icu nurse in United States. I have been preaching this for years. Also, they kill the gut with all these meds, but when we suggest giving pt. Buttermilk, because I just recently discovered kefir, they look at me like I had grown 5 heads🧐
@hump717 Жыл бұрын
Annette, agreed. the hospital I worked at 50 years ago had a TB unit that had a porch. Patients were routinely taken out there to take in the sunshine.
@ShawnStradamus5203 жыл бұрын
Dr JC has been an invaluable source of high quality information and primary source documentation during this historic pandemic which I give credit for helping to keep my family safe, and for that I am eternally grateful. Perhaps even more impressive than this contribution is Dr John’s example of humility and empathy.
@Qualityselection2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. He is a Hero in this pandemia. He is working daily, making complex research from around the world; and then presenting it to us in such a didactic way. And every day a new great video. I just discovered him about a month ago. Now, I watch him and not longer the mainstream news, to be informed and up to date with the pandemia.
@deanaburnham95712 жыл бұрын
Yes. His character has caused me to pay attention to his work as it's a reliable source. His empathy, kindness, and professionalism has always been an outstanding feature of all his interviews. Seems to be an utterly remarkable doctor and person all the way around! Thanks be to God! May God bless both these doctors.
@sailorgabbie3 жыл бұрын
My board certified endocrinologist is a big believer in D and puts all patients on 5000 IU. Hasn't lost a patient to Covid yet. He serves poor communities who are disproportionately hit by Covid.
@chrisseoc70953 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you got a good Doctor with an enquiring mind. They seem to be a minority these days.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisseoc7095 yes. pill pushers for big pharma.
@RandomDudeOne3 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum There is no money in Vitamin D for big pharma
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomDudeOne SPECTOR said it vit D is rubbish in the video
3 жыл бұрын
And there are plenty of board-certified endocrinologists who don't put their patients on vitamin D and haven't lost a patient to COVID-19 yet. Why do you think your particular anecdote is particularly important, @sailorchik?
@johny_mo83183 жыл бұрын
I love videos such as these where people are able to discuss a subject openly and amicably, even where there are disagreements, and we all learn in the process. Thank you both for doing this!
@Nvwheeler3 жыл бұрын
I agree, reasoned debate done in a respectful manner leads to better understanding by all
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
Yes it was pretty calm good points of view debated best all from Glasgow stay safe 👍
@thejanetflights73963 жыл бұрын
I agree! Intelligent people having an intelligent conversation focused on all possible correct solutions.
@careyjamesmajeski32033 жыл бұрын
This is increasingly rare these days.
@rodolfosoto29603 жыл бұрын
The base of this is probable honesty, if you into a debate looking to find answers and not to discredit other's reasoning you end up with this sort of exchange. So honest people is the key to me
@paulgribbon28373 жыл бұрын
How refreshing to listen to honest and open debate between health experts. Something that has been sorely missed over this past year.
@DaveAlexanderFaris7 ай бұрын
Yeah take your vitamins could save your life
@Mortthemoose3 жыл бұрын
Loved Dr Campbell's last comment there....."and I'll be getting a trip to the sunshine just as soon as I can, in the north of England" 😅😅👍
@lovenationalbus3 жыл бұрын
...and the answer from the Professor was a grim look. He seemed a very miserable man.
@elisevillemaire83443 жыл бұрын
UVB is what you need, & UK winter sun doesn't have any at all reaching us because of the low southern angle. No one can make Vit☀D from WINTER sun below 35° N or S latitude! Supplements work 365 days a year, but GI, liver, kidney diseases still block it's required metabolism, need higher Rx form. Dark skin doesn't change oral need, but, Age Especially obesity All require higher dosing.
@tracylaw43723 жыл бұрын
Refreshing to watch two people debate a subject without it devolving into raised voices and interruption. We so rarely see it nowadays that it was very noticeable to me.
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
The house of commons could learn by this debate super calm and chilled here here 😂 best from Glasgow scotland stay safe 👍
@CountDrunkula3 жыл бұрын
So true. I tease deniers on a different account and the escalation into anger and abuse from the replies is nuclear.
@alan4sure3 жыл бұрын
@@CountDrunkula I can relate.👍
@isctony3 жыл бұрын
@@wboyle9721 the house of commons has certainly changed a lot from the days it was filled with only old white men like these two debating here (no offence John lol)
@robinhood46403 жыл бұрын
When two people discuss their different opinions, they can mutually respect each others opinion. It is when people discuss their beliefs that things turn sour.
@karinavizcaya50943 жыл бұрын
Having taken vitamin d for the last year and having not been sick at all. I’ll be continuing to take it.
@crabjoe3 жыл бұрын
I don't take any supplements and haven't been sick in over a year. Fact is, most people I know haven't been sick. I feel this has more to do with lock downs and working from home... and when out in public, the social distancing and the masks... I really hate masks... it causes my glasses to fog most times.
@jennifervictore54713 жыл бұрын
VitC & VitD are essential
@swagkidm103 жыл бұрын
@@jennifervictore5471 i take both of these daily during and after my Covid infection back in July 👌
@janenash43473 жыл бұрын
@Gorgeous George can you explain the exact chemical difference between 'natural' and 'chemical' calciferol please.
@panlomito3 жыл бұрын
@@jennifervictore5471 Your daily need of vitamin C can be easily obtained by a healthy diet with normal amounts of vegetables and fruits. This is not possible with vitamin D, the daily amount from diet is about 20-40 IU, so you really need the sun. But if you live in the northern part of the USA/Canada or Europe the sun is not strong enough during half of the year. So vitamin C and D are essential but vitamin D3 supplements are most essential for a lot of people.
@RyanTravis233 жыл бұрын
How can you not love Dr Campbell's genuineness?
@fenlander71143 жыл бұрын
Easily once you see thru the bs
@AddamSolo2 жыл бұрын
Campbell is a master of psychology. Perhaps the people will one day understand, but I do not know. .
@kdkseven2 жыл бұрын
@@fenlander7114 what b.s. are you referring to?
@kdkseven2 жыл бұрын
@@AddamSolo what are you talking about?
@benjames1497 Жыл бұрын
@@AddamSolo exactly. His cult of followers are entirely oblivious to it
@deepzepp4176 Жыл бұрын
I've currently got a grade iii brain tumour (oligodendroglioma) I've had surgery, radiotherapy and was meant to start chemotherapy in January 2022. I had one cycle of chemo before I had to stop, due to my ALT levels being too high. I then had an ultrasound, which revealed I had, Non alcoholic fatty liver disease. I also had psoriasis, which since my diagnosis, has developed into psoriatic arthritis. So, from the 1st Feb 21 to 7th Jan 22 I've received no cancer treatment whatsoever (apart from my own personal plant based treatment) And for that whole year they couldn't work out why my ALT levels were so high. So, as I now have epilepsy, as a result of the tumour, they took me off my epilepsy meds (Epilim), then they took me off the steroids (Dexamethosone) but my bloods kept coming back the same, elevated ALT. They then lowered my other epilepsy meds (Keppra) to see if that would make a difference. Then due to negative side effects (aggression, memory loss, depression) from the Keppra, they put me on Brivaracetam (still have some side effects, but nowhere near as bad as the Keppra) But again, after all these changes, my ALT levels remained high. Finally in September 21, my GP decided to get *all* my bloods checked, instead of the specific ones my oncologist was asking for. It came back that I had a vitamin D deficiancy ("below 12"). They put me on a course of vitamin D3 3,200 supplements, and by December 22 my bloods came backing saying my ALT levels were back to normal ("normal range") and I can now commence chemotherapy. My fatty liver symptoms have cleared up, and along with some Enstilar, my psoriasis has cleared up and my joint and muscle pains have gone. My epileptic seizures have also remained under control. I will also say that I haven't eaten fish for years as I had food poisening when I was young, and It put me off for life. And because of my psoriasis I never went out or played out in the sun (stupid I know). Oh, and my last MRI in 29th November 2022 my results came back saying the tumour hasn't moved and is stable. I know it's only my little antidote, but hopefully someone might get something from it.
@TechToWatch Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this description of your experience. I'm taking a vit D & K supplement. And a knee private has greatly improved. Whether as result of the vitamins I have no idea. Best wishes for your on going treatment
@TechToWatch Жыл бұрын
Ha! Not "private", I meant "problem"
@ruthsgardeningdesciple8306 Жыл бұрын
I wish you good health.
@aliciamilam5636 Жыл бұрын
Dandelion and milk thistle .soursop tea leaves for the cancer it heal cancer 10,000 times more then chemo..love u all
@deepzepp4176 Жыл бұрын
@@TechToWatch Sorry I’m late replying. I wasn’t notified by KZfaq. That’s great news. There’s definitely something to it.
@pocketfella51763 жыл бұрын
Vitamin D 3 is what I take, we are not living in a sunny country, and they are not expensive so I will continue to take them
@CountDrunkula3 жыл бұрын
Same. It's like the cost of a teabag so I've got them on auto-reorder.
@elizapoppy90733 жыл бұрын
Me too! After learning that high fructose corn syrup (thank you MedCram) deactivates vitamin D in your body I make a point to avoid that in my diet; but I know my diet isn't the best. Regular blood work is needed - I tailor my vitamins to boost where I know I am deficient and otherwise take a maintenance approach.
@antonystringfellow51523 жыл бұрын
Humans evolved to live primarily outdoors, every day, all year round. It's near impossible to get the same level of D3 from diet alone as you would receive living outdoors in a tropical/sub-tropical region. Therefore, it is quite reasonable to assume that a supplement would be beneficial. However, we also know that Northern Europeans have already evolved in a few ways since our ancestors left Africa. The most obvious evolutionary change is our white skin. Also, most of the World's humans have evolved even more recently than that, since the domestication of animals, to retain the enzymes necessary to digest milk (lactose) into adulthood. The point here being that we can't be sure just what a normal level of D3 is. What's normal for a bushman living in the Kalahari might not be normal for a Scotsman. It might actually be the same - we just don't know yet. However, there is more to consider here than any possible evolutionary adapatations to the climate and the strength of the Sun. Our lifestyles changed, in a big way, far more recently than the move out of Africa or the domestication of animals. Much too recently to have evolved in any meaningful way. That change came with the industrial revolution. Prior to the industrial revolution, most people lived in the countryside and were involved in food production - working outdoors, 7 days per week, regardless of the weather. Now, most of us aren't exposed to any sun from Monday to Friday, frequently none at all all week, and when we are, it's usually only for a short time, not the entire day. Even those who live in the tropics probably spend at least five days per week working indoors. It seems logical to me to assume that this change has to have made a difference to the amount of D3 our bodies receive.
@lisadefries67183 жыл бұрын
Plus in Europe the winter sunshine is at wrong angle to produce vitamin d3 naturally in skin for 6 months of year. If you work full time indoors and don’t get much sun in winter our bodies at a disadvantage to our ancestors who could store up vitamin d when working outside on farms etc
@lisadefries67183 жыл бұрын
@@antonystringfellow5152 agreed just read your comments. In sensible doses in northern hemisphere countries I suspect it does more good than harm.
@yessopie3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? He said that the study was to see if Vitamin D made a difference in whether or not you contract covid. But that was never the issue. We are interested in whether Vitamin D reduces the chance of cytokine storm.
@veramae40982 жыл бұрын
Around the 5 minute mark he starts to talk about cytokines.
@glennseal9073 жыл бұрын
Think after looking at the studies in spain, I will follow the science and keep taking my vitamin D
@monanemani7423 жыл бұрын
That study was retracted because statistical analysis were not done properly.
@glennseal9073 жыл бұрын
@@monanemani742 interesting, dosen't mean of course that the vitamin d supplementation didn't work, just the analysis was incorrect
@RWoody19953 жыл бұрын
@@glennseal907 but it does mean that if you are following that study, you aren't "following the science" like you claim.
@pamelasandstrom44013 жыл бұрын
I've been taking Vitamin D, 4000iu a day. After losing my sense of smell about 8 years ago, I didn't know why.. Well after about 4 weeks on Vitamin D, my sense of smell is back. My lungs are getting stronger as well...
@disengage51473 жыл бұрын
A supplement that can help your lungs ( in addition to vit-d ), liver and kidneys and worth a try is N-acetyl-cysteine. Do some research. It is worth trying.
@emhartjes2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a similar experience. My sense of smell was much diminished over the years but after taking vitamin D 10 000 and zinc 200 for 6 months, I noticed my sense of smell returning. Not sure if this is just a coincidence, but I’m delighted to be able to smell the flowers again.
@jnz93892 жыл бұрын
D3 taken daily since 2017 has not returned my sense of smell (loss caused I think by a smoking partner decades ago), improved my asthma or reduced seasonal hayfever. I started on it hoping it would help slow the progression of arthritis but it's debatable that d3 has made any difference, unlike losing 8kg which made a noticeable difference
@gareth4493 жыл бұрын
Just watching Professor Spectors general body language i found him to not be very open to the idea that Vit D could help with Covid , he had his opinions and thats that .
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
HE IS TALKING CRAP. 87% ARE DEFICIENT TO START WITH WORLDWIDE.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
big pharma stooge by the sound
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@Albert Clarke He is an old fart with his education 40 years out of date. his brain is old and fossiled. he cant think new thoughts. he never does any research and just spouts what his paymasters tell him
@happyhealthylife4ever3 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum agree
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@@happyhealthylife4ever I mean after 7 years of medical school would you want learn more? you just want to start the money rolling in.
@RandomDudeOne3 жыл бұрын
To me it's just common sense. We know Vitamin D plays an important role with our immune systems. We also know a lot of people are deficient in Vitamin D. During a pandemic taking Vitamin D supplements to raise your level to sufficiency is the logical thing to do.
@lindosland3 жыл бұрын
No, we don't know that a lot of people are deficient - that's Tim's point, because we all probably have different optimum levels and have no basis for assuming a correct level. I'm not convinced he's right though, for many reasons that came out in the video.
@guygrotke74763 жыл бұрын
We do know that human bodies stop Vitamin D synthesis from the sun at about 70 ng/ml. That's the level they see in Hawaiian life guards and Masai tribesmen. So your body seems to see that level as optimal. Most people in the US are below 20 ng/ml.
@leonardodavinci74253 жыл бұрын
@@lindosland The vast majority of the population in Europe is either deficient or in the low end for serum level of vitamin D.
@lindosland3 жыл бұрын
@@leonardodavinci7425 You don't seem to have taken in Tim's argument - we have no EVIDENCE that they are deficient, because we do not know what is NORMAL. We do not know because we know that people are likely to vary in optimal level, and for all we know their bodies are setting a low level for reasons we do not understand, or because of a condition they have. I think you are probably right, but it's only a feeling based on many clues. Without the right experiments we cannot actually know that people are 'deficient' or in the low end (low end of what - determined how). They are in the low end of the observed range; that is all we can say as fact, but it does not follow necessarily that this is a problem rather than a feature of how we all vary. In fact, some people must always be in the low end of the observed range! There are many clinical variables that vary that pose a similar problem. Some men have low testosterone, compared to others, but we do not supplement. If we did we might observe more cancers etc. Some people have half the mean level of THS (thyroid stimulating hormone) but that doesn't mean we should supplement; it means that their pituitary is compensating for their particular thyroid function, which is not necessarily abnormal.
@leonardodavinci74253 жыл бұрын
@@lindosland Lots of studies clearly demonstrate what's a deficiency level and what's a healthy level.
@MysticWAFFLWZ133 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Campbell for bringing attention to vitamin D deficiency and supplementation. I agree with you 💯!!
@paulbearman46533 жыл бұрын
Thank you, had been waiting for a long time for this discussion, much appreciated, a very balanced approach in my view. For the time being I will continue taking my Vit D supplement.
@lmr6913 жыл бұрын
“I will continue to follow Dr. Campbell and his view on Vitamin D. My pulmonologist just removed another inhaler for me to take. My lungs clear, the best shape in the past year., I believe following Dr. Campbell because I see the positive results for me.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
THE OTHER GUY IS TALKING crap. vit D is low BECAUSE your ill. crap
@lmr6913 жыл бұрын
Well am not giving thought to that other guy. My husband, first time in years, didn’t get 2 winter colds this past year he usually gets. I started us on Dr. Campbell’s suggestion on Vitamin D last February. Best thing I’ve done for us both. Thank you, Dr. Campbell. You helped us stay well.
@allandesoer76723 жыл бұрын
@@lmr691 About 30 years ago I went to see my Dr about always being tired and basically crap. It was a Asian Dr who saw me ( lovely lady ) . She said that most men in northern Europe were short of vitD and advised me to take supplements to boost my levels. I started with 1000 units during summer but went up to 2000 in the winter months. I am now pushing 70 years old and can honestly say I have never had Flu or a cold since, even when working with people coughing and sneezing all around me.
@lmr6913 жыл бұрын
@@allandesoer7672 I wished I had had this information years ago and wouldn’t have had the many pneumonia illnesses over the last 30+ years, and my lungs wouldn’t have this scar tissue.
@allandesoer76723 жыл бұрын
@@lmr691 I went to the Dr because I was fed up of being knackerd all the time, my own Dr never really did anything over the years but the young Asian Dr was great , she listened ! and gave me a thorough check up, time didn't restricted with her. Just wish she was still in the practice an was my named GP.
@sharonw20083 жыл бұрын
My daughter was diagnosed with MS and the only treatment she's been given so far is 4000ui vitamin D. I've been taking it since watching Dr J in March last year, I have several chronic illnesses and have not been as depressed, also SAD was nowhere near as bad this year too. Thank you Dr John xx
@skrotteable3 жыл бұрын
I have MS too and I take VERY high dose of vitamin-d as only treatment. I follow the Coimbra Protocol under guidance of a german Protocol doctor.
@happyhealthylife4ever3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps she should try the Coimbra protocol...with medical assistance only!
@DragynGirl3 жыл бұрын
As someone thats had MS for 23 years, I would suggest she at least get on something other than Vit D. Yes, D helps, but you need to fight the demyleniation. There are so many disease modifying therapies out there now. There's no cure, but the DMT's will slow the progression, even if her progression is very slow right now. MS is so very unpredictable, that doing everything you can to start battling back ASAP helps tremendously. I wish her the best of luck, and I hope her disease ends up being on the mild end.
@happyhealthylife4ever3 жыл бұрын
@@DragynGirl Coimbra Protocol and plant based diet low in saturated fats helps!
@josefschiltz21923 жыл бұрын
Same here with the SAD. Not nearly as bad - matter of fact, I could say non-existent.
@pamelahardy9937 Жыл бұрын
John, When I was a child (70 years ago)--I was hospitalised for many years=resulr of a car accident. it was hospital procedue to move long term patients into the sunshine daily for a few hours to sunbathe--ostensibly for health reasons.)
@elgonwilliams76243 жыл бұрын
I had Covid back in November. My symptoms were relatively mild. I've been on Vitamin D for over two years. My roommates who were not taking Vitamin D had severe symptoms, both of them were hospitalized for a bit. Definitely not proof of anything, but I think the Vitamin D helped me.
@missktofdk2 жыл бұрын
Both of your roommates were hospitalized.. because of corona?.. how old are they?
@elgonwilliams76242 жыл бұрын
@@missktofdk They recovered. One is a nurse. She was hospitalized for a day. The other, her mother, was in the hospital for several days on Oxygen. She has recovered now, but it was scary having two ambulances pull up to the front of our house and take them away.
@missktofdk2 жыл бұрын
@@elgonwilliams7624 Sure, that must have been scary. Glad to hear they’re both fine ❤️ Thanks for sharing 👍😊
@Qualityselection2 жыл бұрын
THAT is a piece of evidence that Vit D DID help. Thanks for sharing. How much Vit D have you been taking? Could you please share from which brand/lab are your Vit D?
@md61211 Жыл бұрын
@@Qualityselection I know I'm not the person you're asking the question of, but thought I'd weigh in anyway. (If you're in the US) my friend's oncoligist is a big proponent of D & recommends Liqui-D3 from Rx Vitamins. It's suspended in olive oil & taken under the tongue. Goes straight into the bloodstream.
@noreenosborn11243 жыл бұрын
I’ve been taking vitamin D 4000ug since start of COVID. It has reduced my pain by 80%. I have RA, Hashimoto and Osteoarthritis.
@inesnovo3 жыл бұрын
I do relate to this. I have a genetic bone disease that affected my hip and right femur (called fibrous displasia), and I don’t know if it’s a coincidence or not, but since I started 4000ui ViT D daily I’ve been most of the time pain free, whereas before I would feel pain at least once a month for a week.
@mw59833 жыл бұрын
When the D gets low, the B12 gets low, because the D is needed in the stomach cells to produce intrinsic factor to absorb B12. When the B12 gets low at the tissue level it causes the methylmalonic acid to rise, which eats the myelin sheaths off the nerves that contain the electrical signals. This causes the eletricity to shock the surrounding tissue and cause pain. I wonder if that could be the reason vit D reduced your pain. You were absorbing B12 when the D levels normalized and it repairs the sheaths over time. The reason I know so much about this, is because I researched it years ago to cure my brother, who had been misdiagnosed as a schizophrenic. His problems were being caused by a low B12 and a high free copper. None of the psychiatrists he had ever tested his B12. When his B12 got low, it caused M acid to get high which blocked enzymes in his urea cycle from converting ammonia to urea. The high ammonia was causing him to hallucinate. Once his B12 was normalized, his ammonia normalized and his psychosis was cured. All they wanted to do was give him drugs to treat the symptoms and say he had an incurable diseases called schizophrenia that has never even been proven to exist. Anyway, you might have your free copper level checked, along with your methylmaloninc acid, which will show if your B12 is low at the tissue level. My brother's whole problem stemmed from an elevated free copper due to a binding gene defect. The elevated free copper was causing his D, B12, iron, B9, zinc and many other things to be low. Then once the B12 got low, due to a low D, his methylmalonic acid rose, which created a high ammonia.
@excepticayselectiva3 жыл бұрын
This might interest you "Vitamin D Resistance as a Possible Cause of Autoimmune Diseases: A Hypothesis Confirmed by a Therapeutic High-Dose Vitamin D Protocol" www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2021.655739/full
@mw59833 жыл бұрын
@@excepticayselectiva Thanks for the information my friend.
@ciarancollins33323 жыл бұрын
It has help mee too
@Mrs.TJTaylor3 жыл бұрын
I take 4000 daily. My doctor told me to and she checks my levels twice every year. She wants me in the upper level of the normal range. I’m going to continue doing this as so far so good!
@dreaming_butterfly19702 жыл бұрын
Search for Jeff T. Bowles or Dr. Coimbra protocol. You can have even more benefits with higher doses.
@Composerben5553 жыл бұрын
Professor Spector’s body language reminds me of what it’s like to visit a doctor who isn’t interested in anything outside of what they learned in medical school and isn’t fully listening or believing his patients.
@Gigahoozzz3 жыл бұрын
It is good to be challenged by his likes when it comes to research.
@jerome_morrow3 жыл бұрын
Your statement reminds me of what it’s like to have to deal with patients who aren’t interested in anything outside of what they learned from heresay/rumour/bro-science, and aren’t fully listening or believing their doctors (who actually have the right medical education, training and experience).
@Gigahoozzz3 жыл бұрын
@@jerome_morrow You could be talking about Dr John Campbell himself (if he were disguised as Joe patient) as the youtube conversation illustrates. Sometimes doctors have to deal with patients who are informed by good, science based sources of information. Some matters aren't a s decided as one would like to believe. Doctors themselves have strongly opposing opinions on the efficacy of HCQ. Pity the patient who has to deal with that without a reliable source of information.
@dwest421633 жыл бұрын
@@jerome_morrow Does your experience bear that all of your Drs are fully informed in all current medical findings? I am thrilled for you if you have such a Doctor. This has not been my experience.
@karebear98273 жыл бұрын
I can see exactly the same sense of reception 🤣🤣🤣
@KDXracer862 жыл бұрын
This video was outstanding! It serves as a perfect example of how doctors and scientists can discuss the issues of the pandemic cordially and WITHOUT political influence. Bravo gentlemen.
@coachs8863 жыл бұрын
You should interview Dr. Stasha Gominak regarding vitamin D and covid. She has been doing some profound studies on vitamin D, sleep, and immunity (gut biome) and has profound evidence through her sleep studies that the absence of vitamin D is a cause of disease, not consequence.
@luv2travel20003 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the name of this doctor. I'm interested to hear more about them. I printed off a chart that shows the lower a person's blood levels of D are the more they are at risk for various cancers.
@matthewstroud42942 жыл бұрын
Her work on migraine is very interesting. Fix the sleep to remove the headaches.
@royhenderson98262 жыл бұрын
Tims hands barely stopped moving, which made me wonder, just how confident he was!. To me it is obvious, we will not get the same vitamin D3 in the winter months as we get in the summer. I didn't hear him say what a dangerous level might be, so to me he wasted Johns time and ours. 🇬🇧
@wellinever15582 жыл бұрын
@@royhenderson9826 I read recently a level over a 100 is toxic. My son's Dr was happy with a level of 23..the lab test showed it to be normal range in S.A..i don't agree
@dianadadadiana2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Gominak saved me! She is amazing!
@lafuerza1133 жыл бұрын
Good discussion, thank you. Lots to think about & keeping an open mind. Diet, gut health and lifestyle is key, an holistic approach is good.
@darrelstewart3002 Жыл бұрын
When I quit mowing the grass and started wearing long sleeve shirts I start supplementing vit D with K2 and will continue until next spring when the grass greens up and am getting some natural sunshine
@MrCadfile2 жыл бұрын
I got a severe case of COVID , april 2000 , really thought i was going to die , i was off work for months and had various symptoms for well over a year.After researching the subject of covid recovery i came across different discussions on the benefits of vitamin D around 6 months ago, so i started taking vitamin D3 4000iu +K2 100ug from then .A week ago myself and my partner tested positive for COVID , I have had hardly any issues at all and starting back to work on wenesday after my isolation .So its a big yes for vitamin D from me ...😀
@johnstainton Жыл бұрын
your not factoring in your immunity after infection - I take 5000iu - just saying
@ruthsgardeningdesciple8306 Жыл бұрын
I would agree with John S
@englishbullterrier847 Жыл бұрын
Link below I'm sure you'll find interesting atb. Vitamin D is not an optional supplement. it is a non-negotiable cellular necessity. it is your life health support system. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fKudq9SLs526h30.html
@nikentus3 жыл бұрын
I'm with John on vitamin D. I've been taking it and my family and we are all good despite living in the overpopulated capital in a country hard hit by the virus. Spector should cite the dosages used by the people in his studies.
@sheilam49642 жыл бұрын
You make a good point on the dosages. That might be the difference right there, causing the outcome observed between these two views.
@miguellourenco6934 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the dosages! The n sample is really impressive, but what does it matter if probably the majority of people take those multivitamins where the vitD dosages are, at best, marginal...
@rob196323 жыл бұрын
Influenza mostly disappears in the summer. Higher vitamin D levels.
@rob196323 жыл бұрын
I missed the question mark. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
@matfax3 жыл бұрын
Covid-19 as well
@paulgribbon28373 жыл бұрын
Possibly. Also absolute humidity levels are higher in summer as well which effects viral transmissibility and receptivity.
@matfax3 жыл бұрын
@@paulgribbon2837 UV radiation is the major factor if you're in public. UV light destroys viral particles quickly. Temperature doesn't.
@lizkeith13563 жыл бұрын
does our diet not change, too, when the season changes. more vit c coming in from salads, fruits ?
@ShoJ3693 жыл бұрын
I have MS and I'm osteopenic. So I take 2 Natecal ( Calcium and D3 ), daily. As soon as I knew about covid, I added 1,000 IU of vitamin D3 daily. I usually have a bout of pneumonia at least once a year, since increasing vit D3 I haven't even had a chest infection, for the 1st time in 20 years.
@gg-wk2ww Жыл бұрын
Sheila, newer studies recommend not supplementing calcium and add vitk2 to help move the calcium you get from food into appropriate areas like bone. Vitd3 about 4k to 5k twice a day, and vitk2 t 100 once a day is what I'm hearing
@Nana-uo2th Жыл бұрын
I agree with gg. Also I would sincerely recommend looking into Boron, strontium and codliver oil. And Dr Berg has videos on this. And also ubiquinol.
@aaronward551 Жыл бұрын
Take 12000 iu vitamin d for ms my partner has this disease
@ShoJ369 Жыл бұрын
@@aaronward551 Thank you 🙂
@mattpiper7290 Жыл бұрын
I also have MS and have been taking Vit D for over a decade (8000 IU Daily 2x RDI), diagnosed over 11 years. Recently added K2 (3 times a week). DMT's: Glatiramer acetate (Copaxone, 12 months), Fingolimod (Gilenya, 18 months), Alemtuzumab (Lemtrada, 2016) Used to take Calcium and D3, but try to get all other micro/macro-nutrients from my diet now. I have been intermittent fasting for over 8 years (only calorie restrict if immobile for more than 2 weeks due to illness). l tried every other diet there is, this regiment seems to work well for me and my lifestyle. I would recommend both approaches: Vit D supplementation (4000 IU D3) plus non-calorie restricted intermittent fasting. Has it made a difference? If these guys can't prove the benefits, it would be extremely arrogant of me to say one way or the other. I'm not a doctor (talk to yours), but would not change either element, as it has not hurt me over this time.
@markbonello45132 жыл бұрын
This is the way a debate needs to be. Not one where there is a winner and looser and where egos are enhanced and threatened, but one with openness, respect and desire for truth.
@LezliByrum3 жыл бұрын
My levels finally reached 59 after 4 months of supplementation. Started from a 22.
@thegrymwolf63603 жыл бұрын
What dosage did you take?
@nomebear3 жыл бұрын
I take the 15,000 iu daily as recommended by J. Campbell and my Vitamin D levels are "good" according to my physician.
@jamesq38963 жыл бұрын
Dr. Gundry said that 85% of his patients in Southern California were Vitamin d deficient.
@briancase61803 жыл бұрын
Yes, it takes a long time to bring a low level up even with "high" levels of supplementation. Ten thousand iu per day is not a huge dose. A doc reported on his attempt to bring his level up: after four months of 5000iu per day, he was still below the low normal. Do take note that supplement quality can vary. My friend was taking 2000iu for the past year (at my urging, though I urged her to take more), and she tested a few days ago at below the low normal level. See? You need a lot unless you get significant sun exposure.
@ksharpe81373 жыл бұрын
I’ve taken 5,000 a day for years....at least 5....mine is still only in the upper 60’s. It take a long time to get your levels up.
@paulmurray89223 жыл бұрын
Heheh, all I got from this is that the jury is still out on the efficacy of D, re Covid, but I'll continue to supplement anyway. Been doing it for six years and the only probable harm so far has been a minuscule impact on my wallet.
@dantronics16823 жыл бұрын
an academic prof cant be seen to fully approve vit d, its bad for research fundings
@mopip42mp3 жыл бұрын
Spector is no help at all.
@rogerbojarski13913 жыл бұрын
I’ve been taking vitamin d for almost three years now have been around people that have had the virus and I got stage three lung cancer and my tumor has gone done three centimeters and in remission now for almost a year and have not been sick ..
@craigmccracken3104 Жыл бұрын
Refreshing to see adults debating in a mature logical way, Thanks to both of you.
@gaston.3 жыл бұрын
Wise words from Mr Spector. As a long time supplement enthusiast, I am slowly realizing it can have its unhealthy side & better to focus on food. For example, I now eat Natto regularly, instead of taking a vitamin K supplement.
@out_spocken Жыл бұрын
It's in the name really .supplement. shouldn't 3ber be the first thing to do. Attempt to correct any deficiency naturally...then use supplements. Sadly everyone wants the quick fix these days. And we've been groomed by pharma to believe pills are just fine.
@juliasmith8223 жыл бұрын
Each to their own but I felt you were knocking your head against a brick wall John !! I am taking my D and K2 .
@josefschiltz21923 жыл бұрын
The same difficulties that Linus Pauling had regarding 'Vitamin' C. Always "Not enough-needs more evidence".
@RussCR51873 жыл бұрын
@@josefschiltz2192 "Always 'Not enough-needs more evidence'" Same now with ivermectin.
@kristenriddle2123 жыл бұрын
Cymbiotika
@doriangray_19993 жыл бұрын
@@josefschiltz2192 Linus Pauling was guilty of overkill, when he promoted 10 grams of vitamin C every day! 1) There were no non-acid vit. C supplements back then - and more than 2 grams of ordinary ascorbic acid every day is going to harm most people in the long run! 2) The body can only absorb 200 - 400mgs of vit. C in from one dose anyway and can't store it. 3) Vit. C enhances the uptake of some nutrients but can block others - and it can in large doses (over 2 grams) give internal bleedings and/or kidney problems due to interactions with both OTC and prescription drugs...
@josefschiltz21923 жыл бұрын
@@doriangray_1999 Aware. But good you've posted the information.
@akumar73663 жыл бұрын
Great exchange of ideas ,thank you gentleman.
@tonyblighe56963 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this delightfully open minded and polite discussion available to non-specialists.
@Stu_Yorkie Жыл бұрын
I just read Spectors book "Spoon Fed". He rambles on about Climate change too much for my liking, and that has cast doubt about the rest of the book for me. If I wanted to read about Climate change, I would have bought a book on that subject !!
@alisonmorris76863 жыл бұрын
A very interesting chat, I have taken vitamin D for years as I had learnt it would help prevent cancer. Since following these talks with Dr C, I’ve upped the level and personally feel mentally better. I have always taken vit C and zinc and if I’ve ever felt a cold coming on, I’ve doubled the dose and stopped a cold in its tracks. I will continue with all these as well as my perfectly balanced diet with little or no red meat.
@janestoate54733 жыл бұрын
Love it when you and Tim chat. My two favourite sources on all things covid 💕
@schofield48363 ай бұрын
I’ve just been diagnosed with severely low vitamin d and have to be on 10,000 to build it back up, gradually decreasing to 4000 alongside vitamin k and magnesium. I’m breaking out in infections all the time, my joints ache, knees, elbows, fingers , my muscles are worn out restless legs, no sleep, severe back and calf cramps. I’ve been so ill I thought I had bone cancer or was developing mnd, as I couldn’t even walk up the stairs, irritable and general feeling of apathy and sadness. I’ve been on it five days and feel so much better already. My sense of humour too is coming back and I’m finding myself laughing at things with my sharp witty mind returning. It’s a miracle drug!
@DISSIRE3 жыл бұрын
Could be coincidence but I stopped taking 4000iu daily some three weeks ago and I’m in bed with a cold now. Haven’t been ill for over a year of taking it. Im gonna start again.
@sachi58073 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to a friend of mine. Stopped supplementing and got a cold not too long after.
@martinvinranke40553 жыл бұрын
I always get the flu, and I usually have 3-4 colds /year. After one year supplementing Vitamine D (100-200ug/day) i have not get cold, and no covid even though i live in Sweden ;-) ) Thanks Campbell!!
@elenalepotova66233 жыл бұрын
Do you mean 1000-2000?
@TASIAawful13 жыл бұрын
That’s very low indeed
@andrewrobinson91723 жыл бұрын
@@elenalepotova6623 I think he might mean 100-200mcg which would be 4000-8000iu -- he's using ug in place of μg [μ being mu in Greek alphabet, and used to indicate "micro"]
@elenalepotova66233 жыл бұрын
@@andrewrobinson9172 It's a good version. You might be right because the dose the man indicated is smaller than in a multivitamin! My capsule of vitamin A contains 400 iu of vitamin D!
@phillipcozens33212 жыл бұрын
I have a similar experience. Until 5 years ago I was always down with colds and flu. I've been taking D3 now for five years - the first five years of my life without any colds or flu. Hardly a fluke I reckon.
@pauljenkins68773 жыл бұрын
The fact that evolution selected for extremely white skin when humans migrated to northern Eurasia - where vitamin D from the sun is scarce for many months - suggests that the vitamin is critical to survival.
@Pablito56142 жыл бұрын
This is a true comment.
@YuChiGongG2 жыл бұрын
@@Pablito5614 Correct.
@christianpetersen17822 жыл бұрын
What a privilege to be party to these two specialists. Thank you so much Tim for hosting.
@publicmail22 жыл бұрын
Dr. Campbell, you helped change my life, how? Back in Feb. I had a vit D blood test and it was 15. My complaint was severe fatigue, I also have active/reactivated EBS Epstein Barr. I didn't take the vit D to seriously and started a multivit with 1000iu of D. After watching you talk about VitD importance, I upped it to 5000iu/day and after 1 month now, the change is massive. I'm 55, so much energy, mental clarity, increase libido. So for me it was conclusive, vitD can be critical. Thank you again.
@cmb1193 жыл бұрын
Dr Campbell you are so right about the difficulties of money and methology for the clinical studies on vitamin D and other generic drugs/interventions!
@AriBenDavid3 жыл бұрын
We have all been told to stay out of the sun and eat a low-fat diet. A great formula for Vitamin D deficiency!!
@richardsandwell22853 жыл бұрын
Yes because they want us to get sick, so they can sell us drugs.
@disengage51473 жыл бұрын
And getting fat.
@thebrowns53373 жыл бұрын
@@richardsandwell2285 or so they can sell you vitamin d tablets! Vitamins and homeopathy is a billion pound industry that plays on peoples worries and uses chemicals from China to 'supplement' what you can get naturally.
@spiral-m3 жыл бұрын
@@thebrowns5337 9 euros for 2 years for vitamin D? I think not. Low fat would help a lot of people. Vit D is not to be confused with Big Pharma - who are not interested in people taking enough vitamin D
@TmHudsonArt2 жыл бұрын
@@spiral-m Nothing wrong with good saturated fats. It's the carbs people are eating way too much of. Cut those...
@carolgarner22143 жыл бұрын
Due to breaking both of my hips 11 years ago I was prescribed vitamin D. I have taken this vitamin regularly and can honestly say that I have never had a cold or any flu symptoms since taking this supplement
@IwhimIwhim2 жыл бұрын
How much do you take daily? ☺️
@geroffmilan33282 жыл бұрын
I'm with Prof Spector on this topic. He spent a great deal of time & effort studying "Vitamin" D, with positive expectations, and his findings are logical - and also, less importantly, consistent with most all of scientific research: we think we have found something amazing, but on closer inspection results are so nuanced & caveated that irs a nothing-burger.
@fatbelly273 жыл бұрын
I don't see that Vitamin D is a controversial subject. It's an essential nutrient/prehormone, and most of it comes from the action of sun on our skin. Living in northern climates, working indoors, slapping on sunscreen when we go out - it's no wonder deficiency is so widespread. Scandinavian countries took a deliberate decision to fortify foods in order to raise the low levels of their populations, and this has worked.
@livelearnandteach74023 жыл бұрын
Nothing in this video has changed my belief that vitamin D is really important in health.
@machorwood5743 жыл бұрын
I So!!! Appreciate two experts that can sit and have a discussion, and in the end not completely agree but walk away as colleagues and friends.
@RQCK0N Жыл бұрын
2 professional minds meeting, respectful discussion, not agreeing on everything, know that more work is required. How mature and refreshing compared to the SHOUTING that occurs. Excellent, thank you gentlemen.
@nameremoved40103 жыл бұрын
Piddling doses give piddling results in seeking to fail studies. It takes at least 250 mcgs of D3 per day for me to block my colds and influenza from coming each season. A 100 mcgs per day was simply ineffective for me. Healthy serum levels are likely about 50 ng/mL per levels seen in Africans living as animal herders. Even twice that serum level is safe for most. I didn't say all.
@robert76223 жыл бұрын
Well I have very low vitamin D levels after a recent test and never get colds or flue.. Go figure
@WildwoodTV3 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you look at the studies, the small amount given may as well be a placebo
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
The Statistical Error in the Estimation of the Recommended Dietary Allowance of Vitamin D Veugelers and Ekwaru [8], in a correct reanalysis of the data used by the Institute of Medicine, proved that 8895 IU/d are needed for 97.5% of individuals to achieve values ≥50 nmol/L. Heaney et al. [9] confirmed that finding, reporting that 6201 IU/d were needed to achieve the Endocrine Society’s recommendation of 75 nmol/L and 9122 IU/day to reach 100 nmol/L.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@@WildwoodTV yes exactly the blue smurf is trying to dismiss it using indirect methods. just look at his body language
@nameremoved40103 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4220998/ And 100 nmol is not really so high. As that less than what African herders reach. Spector is not someone I'd trust after this bit from him. These guys are about pushing the vaccine and the standard narrative promoted by the oligarchs of the west and autocrats of the east plus all the dancing handmaidens of both i.e. the mainstream media and officials. Note also life insurance rates haven't gone up. This virus is not a big killer. I'll stick with my dose of vitamin D3 at 10 000 IU per day or MORE. I know for me 4000 IU is simply too little.
@katebridges49353 жыл бұрын
What I took from this : no harm in taking my vitamin D keep going with what I already know is a healthy lifestyle, such as a varied diet and exercise. I think the talk between these two knowledge gents was very helpful. Thank you.
@lindosland3 жыл бұрын
Wrong - there was absolutely no discussion of possible harm, and there should have been. You can find lots of evidence for harm if you look for videos on this - and a lot of claims that high vitamin D can cause calcium deposition in blood vessels and heart, but that taking adequate Vitamin K2 stops this and ensures that calcium goes to bone and not to soft tissues.
@Chickabee12three2 жыл бұрын
@@lindosland absolutely can attest to this... because naively thought it was safe until my arterial calcium rose. I have thankfully reduced it with k2 ... but I wonder how many people are taking it and loading up their arteries!
@lindosland2 жыл бұрын
@@Chickabee12three How did you know that this was happening? Most people have no way of knowing.
@joshrogers78163 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Tim and John and how refreshing to listen to 30 minutes of respectful and well argued points on a contraversial topic. If only we had more of these discussions.
@MJB0110 Жыл бұрын
Two great guys and honest men. Respect & thanks for sharing.
@melanieanne20663 жыл бұрын
I've been taking D3 *also Sambucus Black Elderberry Gummies *with zinc & Vitamin C* since 1st discussed & confined myself to my home (since last March). I didn't get sick all winter (delighted). Got 2nd Moderna yesterday. Feels like I was hit with a mack truck this morning, but understand that's my body creating more antibodies. Thank you Dr. Campbell for all the information you have shared over the past year. Half the battle is understanding.
@clarerickards38622 жыл бұрын
Did you have any long term side effects from the Moderna?
@barbaraledley97223 жыл бұрын
Good debate, will continue taking our vitamin D 😊
@erlingoskarkristjansson86093 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. Insightful debate. Good points made on both sides. Thank you so much. I love how Dr. Campbell suggested that if low vitamin D is a result of illness, perhaps that's because it's such an important substance that it gets used up when you're sick! Until disproven, this is a great counter to the "correlation is not causation" argument. Great points made in the comments too, some of which have occurred to me: - Most trials that give vitamin D, give tiny doses or don't specify the dosage size. It's so stupid, it almost seems like they're trying to show that vitamin D won't help. - Most trials group together non-deficient people and "deficient" people. If you look only at the ones who are deficient, you sometimes see results when they take vitamin D. I live in Iceland. I used to take 3000 IU per day but went to measure my levels and turned out to have 61 nmol/l, but have heard that optimal levels are between 100-150. As a result, I've increased my dosage to 8000 IU per day. Will see if I can get my levels up. Perhaps I won't (like Campbell), but all the consistently healthy people I know take at least 3000 IU per day and many take up to 10000 IU. Not 400-800 IU like in those stupid studies...
@jimicalorne31043 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr Campbell and Professor Spector for this excellent discussion on vitamin D and the immune system, which also touches on lots of other health & nutrition issues.
@scaldon23 жыл бұрын
Good morning everyone. Please remember to take your Vitamin D. Thank you. Stay safe 😀
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
Errrrrrrm OK still taking it he he I think better off with vitimin d than taking it cheers best from Glasgow thanks for the reminder stay safe 👍
@ansielubbeprosser90723 жыл бұрын
🤗👍🏻
@belvedere923 жыл бұрын
What does Professor Spector think of the University of Cordoba (Spain) Hospital study, published Sept. 2020 and the later follow up which showed 100% success for Covid-19 patients?
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
Oh yes d Lewis I forgot about that great point you posted 👍 best from Glasgow scotland stay safe 👍
@ericpenrose35413 жыл бұрын
'Vitamin D Mitigates COVID-19, Say 40+ Patient Studies (listed below) .. Vitamin D reduces COVID-19; infection; severity; ICU admission and mortality: as clearly evidenced by; immune biology, observational and interventional studies, and wider considerations of; latitude, seasonal UVB exposure, and national supplementation policies: the uncertainty is the quantum: but studies suggest ‘D’ effects are likely large - 50% less infectivity - multiples lower ICU and mortality rate.' BMJ Oct 2020. 40+ -1 retracted still makes about twice amount that was reviewed in the 2nd influenza - Vit D meta study.
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
@@ericpenrose3541 thanks Eric for your post it is good reading best from Glasgow scotland stay safe 👍
@SpectatorAlius3 жыл бұрын
@Auld Lang Syne Are you sure you are talking about the same study? Dr. Campbell was not very precise in naming it, and there have been *several* studies from Spain. Google ""spain covid vitamin d cordoba" to see two different hospitals mentioned as running studies and google ""spain covid vitamin d barcelona" to set yet *more* Spanish studies.
@bobn19553 жыл бұрын
@Auld Lang Syne This one hasn't, so far as I can tell. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7456194/ - different authors from the one that was withdrawn. It's a smaller patient group, too.
@aquariusrizing Жыл бұрын
I have pernicious anemia and Mixed Connective Tissue Disease. The Rheumatologist who told me that I had Unspectified and then Mixed- not lupus or sjogrens ( misdiagnosed at 17) and fibro, copd, tested my vit d. I was put on 50,000 ius once a week, until I achieved mid normal. Now I take B12 and vit d3 daily on my own.
@diane44882 жыл бұрын
Dr John Campbell is not a GP, having spent most of his career working in a university, teaching medical procedures, and medical research to nurses. So he's far better qualified than most GPS in researching and interpreting medical, scientific results and reports. GPs are very busy treating patients. Most have no available time to fully research the scientific data. Many would not even have the skills and experience to effectively do so - just because they are not as practiced at doing so. The information he passes on is invaluable! We should be consulting and hearing from more people like him - otherwise the scientific research is wasted.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion Parachute use compared with a backpack control did not reduce death or major traumatic injury when used by participants jumping from aircraft in this first randomized evaluation of the intervention. This largely resulted from our ability to only recruit participants jumping from stationary aircraft on the ground. When beliefs regarding the effectiveness of an intervention exist in the community, randomized trials evaluating their effectiveness could selectively enroll individuals with a lower likelihood of benefit, thereby diminishing the applicability of trial results to routine practice. Therefore, although we can confidently recommend that individuals jumping from small stationary aircraft on the ground do not require parachutes, individual judgment should be exercised when applying these findings at higher altitudes. What is already known on this topic Parachutes are routinely used to prevent death or major traumatic injury among individuals jumping from aircraft, but their efficacy is based primarily on biological plausibility and expert opinion No randomized controlled trials of parachute use have yet been attempted, presumably owing to a lack of equipoise What this study adds This randomized trial of parachute use found no reduction in death or major injury compared with individuals jumping from aircraft with an empty backpack Lack of enrolment of individuals at high risk could have influenced the results of the trial
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@Albert Clarke THE RCT PROVED PARACHUTES DO NOT SAVE LIVES AND NO PROOF THEY SAVE ANYONE
@bobn19553 жыл бұрын
f'ing brilliant!
@sanjayh713 жыл бұрын
Few points: - Vitamin D is cheap - Amazon year supply 4000IU was under £10 - don't understand Professor Spector implying it is a big money making vitamin - He said 1 in 100 people are deficient - under what basis does he say that - when other researchers don't say that. What about all the BAME people who have low levels - why not cheaply fix this? - He did not really acknowledge that in the UK we cannot make vitamin D during winter - He said his objection was people thinking vitamin D would use that only and not look after their general health - again what evidence does he have to back this - people could argue - people who take it are more interested in their health. To sum up - if Vitamin D is very cheap and safe - doesn't it make sense to take away one potential variable whilst we await proper trial results. If he is wrong then he would be propagating something that would be harmful, if he is right - no harm done with the safe dosage (up to 4000IU) recommended.
@MeldinX23 жыл бұрын
True, Alot of studies say that around half of the population(espacially in the north) is deficient in vitamin D. And people who take suppliments are usually people who do care about their health. Most people don't take any suppliments since they just don't have the knowledge or even care.
@jccusell Жыл бұрын
Recent meta studiea conclusively prove vitamin d supllementation has very noticable positive effects on covid 19 outcomes. Time to revisit this talk?
@shuruckai3 жыл бұрын
Prior to 2020 I would get cold sores twice a year regularly coming into and out of winter. Started taking vitamin D, April 2020, and I haven't had a cold sore since. .
@AntonHu3 жыл бұрын
The Cordoba trial may have been small, but the results were too black and white to be dismissed. Of 50 patients treated with calcifediol one required ICU and none died; of the 26 patients not treated with calcifediol, 13 required ICU and two died. I'm recently signed up to 'Zoe', but it has never asked for my (high) vitamin D blood level.
@sharonh57333 жыл бұрын
Only from personal experience, I've only had 1 bad cold in the 3 years since taking vit d and I was working with 60 5yrs old kids. I think I've done pretty well as most people get a lot of colds when they first start working with children...
@jenniferbate96823 жыл бұрын
When I first started teaching, I caught a few colds, but then I started taking vitamin C high doses...I went ten years without catching a cold or flu.
@joejackson62053 жыл бұрын
Been taking the magic 4, vitamin D3, C, Zinc, and Echnicea everyday for 27 years of being an over the road truck driver, only maybe 4 times i felt an infection starting. I increased frequency of the magic 4, and within a day whatever was starting was gone.
@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry3 жыл бұрын
@@joejackson6205 Every immune system, and the environment it contends with, is different. I taught high school for 30 years, took lots of Vit C and other supplements daily, had a healthy diet and lifestyle, and still averaged 2-3 very bad upper-respiratory infections per year that lasted at least a week and often much longer. I attribute this to teaching in an area with a large immigrant population that frequently flies back to their home countries throughout the year (not just on school holidays). International air travel is responsible for the spread of Covid, and now the "VOC's", yet the passenger planes keep flying.
@joejackson62053 жыл бұрын
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry i agree international travel is the number 1 method of spreading pathogens, air, sea, or land. I remember reading a virolist interview saying airplanes were the perfect iccubators for human pathogens. Personally, though i believe immigration should be generous, the worst thing Ted Kennedy did to America was the the immigration reform act of 1968, that eleiminatef health screening before coming into the country, even on a tourist visa. I also agree that we all react differently to pathogens. My point though is taking all 4 of the magic 4 daily. Not in mega doses, that causes problems in some people. But daily in moderate to slightly more doses, from trusted manufacturers. Since, you taught in a heavy latin immigration area, have you ever been tested for tuberculosis? I know the magic 4 though being great at managing viral infections, are not so good at bactetial infections. I admit tuberculosis, leprosy and other such infections do require specialised antibiotics. And on the air travel thing, be prepared for an uptick in polio, the big pocket left of polio being in Afghanistan, and those people are starting to get mobile. Just a heads up.
@shafquatmatin49922 жыл бұрын
Dr. Campbell, I fully support your views. I am from Bangladesh but do not get as much sun as I should and my D3 level came down to I.5 ng/ml and accompanied with the muscle pains and aches tiredness etc. I took 200,000 IU 6 injections to bring up the level and after few months it again came down to 14.5 ng/ml with the accompanying symptoms. After watching your videos I have started to take 5000 IU on a daily basis and the level is steadily increasing and now hovering in the mid 30s. My point is the hypothesis that was given that low vitamin level in a an individual is suited to that person with his specific gene characteristics is wrong. If it were to be true then I wouldn't have faced those painful symptoms and again when it came down I noticed it from the symptoms and after I intervened with daily dose and the levels gradually went up along with the symptoms. So I fully agree with the school of thought that you are preaching and thank you so much. Kind regards Shafquat Matin Dhaka Bangladesh
@Sola_Scriptura_1.6182 жыл бұрын
Great discussion. I am taking 10, 000 IU of D3 and 200mg of K2 and keeping with it for the winter. Rather have a higher level of D3 than a lower level.
@panes8402 жыл бұрын
What do you propose to do during summer as summer can be hit and miss with decent daily sunshine?
@milkboccle3 жыл бұрын
Anecdotal: diagnosed as vit d deficient, cold and flu used to last for 4-6 weeks and would wipe me out, since taking vit D the flu since lasts for max of 7 days, anxiety reduced prob 80%, energy increased.
@benjohnson90673 жыл бұрын
I hope you dont mind me asking but how much do you take?
@melanieanne20663 жыл бұрын
I've been taking D3, also Zinc & Vit C (via Sambucus Black Elderberry Gummies) since this was first discussed. I didn't get a cold OR flu at all this past autumn/winter - very unusual for me and delightfully surprised.
@sebastiangruszczynski16103 жыл бұрын
very Anecdotal indeed.
@jamesmitchell69253 жыл бұрын
After a year of taking vitamin D (first 2,000 IU daily, then around October increasing to 4,000) I just got tested yesterday and I’m at 39 mg/dL (
@sukhjotesingh96132 жыл бұрын
Take it with Vitamin K2 & watch levels go up!
@helenmaclenan29123 жыл бұрын
One man is listening and enquiring, willing to learn, while the other has a closed mind.
@ROSE-mq3qd Жыл бұрын
🙏much respect for the dignity & respect to audience in Dr John in how he manages this conversation - thank you 🌟 when the professor Spector says ‘it’s too complicated to explain’ displays exactly what he thinks of the audience, btw when prof Spector says he sees as only ‘1 in 100 needing Vit D supplements’ is still quite substantial section of the population who need to supplement with Vit D.
@janedelaney73 жыл бұрын
There is little debate over the benefits of Vitamin D for overall health and for disease prevention. The promotion of pharmaceuticals over prevention, healthy diet and lifestyle will never end! An emphasis on prevention over treatment is key.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
NO MONEY IN IT.
@pamtebelman23213 жыл бұрын
Amen
@colincampbell42613 жыл бұрын
You both most live in USA?
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
@@colincampbell4261 yes I live in texas and I have a texan hat
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
Evening everyone another great discussion about vitimin d it's still vitimin d for me best wishes all from Glasgow scotland stay safe all 👍
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
GLASGOW IS VERY DANGEROUS PLACE FULL OF DRUNKS AND STABBERS AND JUNKEIES
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum your mind is full of broken bottles run along troll
@alan4sure3 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum still haven't mastered that caps on/off thing yet hey, troll?
@wboyle97213 жыл бұрын
@@alan4sure 😂 Alan
@maggiepie10623 жыл бұрын
Been taking vitamin D since you mentioned it last year. Every morning one vitamin D plus one vitamin C. Had no Covid or colds. From a 78 year old woman.
@sassysandie2865 Жыл бұрын
I don’t take it and I haven’t had a cold or CoVid. I’m 70.
@LPOLE223 жыл бұрын
The arms folded, tilted head body language of Spector speaks volumes.
@mopip42mp3 жыл бұрын
Spector has no interest in covid-19, just how much money he can make out of books and tests, to be told eat healthy plants.
@LPOLE223 жыл бұрын
@@mopip42mp They are both in this for themselves.
@debbietaylor53133 жыл бұрын
I agree ...also the interaction from Spector was so tightly controlled . It’s very unusual to see so very little subtle body language Like a small nod of the head to show you are listening and engaged . Speaking as a woman. Yes I was the one who bought the vit D and took it daily . I’d have to nag the males in my household to take theirs as they mostly forgot or were apathetic . I bet I’m not the only woman who found the same response at home.
@mopip42mp3 жыл бұрын
@@LPOLE22 True
@hazeb3723 жыл бұрын
Yes. I agree. It was noticeable. Mind you ive seen some interviews on yt were each party with differing views shout and speak over each other. Its good that never happened.... athough i cant see Dr Campbell doing that as he seems like a respectful decent man.
@joycej34313 жыл бұрын
Vitamin D, vitamin K2, vitamin C, and Zinc plus a prebiotic/probiotic and a lot of fruits and vegetables. That's my daily routine.
@jojoh80673 жыл бұрын
Very similar regime here. I make sure my family have 5-8 different fruit or veg portions a day (mostly veg as were not great fruit lovers) and aim for 20 different fruits and veg over the week. Add to that the regular use of garlic, a variety of herbs (both fresh and dried), ginger, turmeric, paprika, nutmeg, cumin and other spices, plus nuts and seeds, I’m pretty sure we hit well over 30 different items a week. Where I’m struggling is the probiotics - I love sauerkraut (my mum’s German) but I’ve yet to get the rest of the family eating it.
@jperri05063 жыл бұрын
Very good list, but I would add Fish oils/omega 3s to that list
@timpifer78323 жыл бұрын
I have IBS which I developed in the past few years. So the healthy foods I did eat, I can no longer eat without causing serious problems. I had my Doctor test me, and my Vitamin D level was low according to the current scale. So I will continue to take vitamin D in winter. As long as I don't take what is considered too much, I believe it can't hurt, and may help. Until I get better information.
@guygrotke74763 жыл бұрын
About 15,000 iu per day is getting up to a level that could be harmful, for normal people.
@liverpoollou246 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Spina Bifida baby (SB meningocele) my spine and cord and I was operated on at four months old, I also have Talipies resulting from the operation, on my right foot...I was one of the lucky ones and led a perfectly normal life and even went on to have four children. I now take Vitd3 and VitK2 and have a VitB12 shot every three months...I had my first in December because of severe anaemia, following the loading dose...Although I am now disabled (I can't stand for long nor walk far) I really feel very good, I wake up around 7am, which before I could sleep all day lol😂 I now take VitD3 4,000iu100 micrograms od and K2 100 micrograms od, after warching one of your shows discussing vitamins. And I must say I feel so much better and my Haemaglobin is almost back to normal...😁
@John-boy Жыл бұрын
I’m 71 now. Around 2015 my Dr included a vitD test in my annual blood tests and said it was low. He put me on calciferol 50,000iu once a week. 6 months later test showed it had increased but still a bit low so increased to twice a week. It’s been in the high end of range ever since. Two things of note. I’ve suffered from cluster headaches, migraines and tension headaches my whole life. A few years after starting this regimen I realised I hadn’t had a headache of any sort for a few years. Then the penny dropped as some other CH sufferers had discovered the link too. It’s been a life saver to get off the various dangerous meds to alleviate CH such as Sumatriptan. Then I also can’t remember the last time I had a cold or flu. Calciferol in South Africa became hard to get during mid Covid as I found it was being used to treat Covid victims in hospitals. During this 4 month period I took to spending two 30 minute sessions a day in the sun in just shorts mid morning and mid afternoon. And as meds go Calciferol vit D 50,000 is very cheap.
@brianwithers1623 жыл бұрын
A study of nuclear submariners with Vit D might be worthwhile. They spend 3 months at sea with no natural light.
@boring78233 жыл бұрын
But they probably have a pretty good diet. Monotonous sure, but good. They're also "self isolating", rather effectively.
@esecallum3 жыл бұрын
Active nudists
@brianwithers1623 жыл бұрын
@@boring7823 Agree. I wasn't thinking of Covid though. I only served in the old diesel electric but a long period at sea (about 4-6 weeks say) the first thing that I got on getting a bit of sunshine, was a cold sore on my lip. We had a good diet but air quality was pretty poor.
@kathleenward62683 жыл бұрын
@@esecallum What? You mean submarine crews are Active Nudists? Who knew, but it sounds like fun!
@malmx29873 жыл бұрын
@@markm4880 mm😊😊
@ronaldgiles40093 жыл бұрын
I live in sunny Florida and I’m outside everyday but my vitamin D level was still low so I take 2000 daily. Of course they say not to be out in the sun because you’ll get skin cancer. You can’t win for losing! Thank you Dr John, you’ve kept us all sane throughout this last year. May God bless you.
@SpectatorAlius3 жыл бұрын
Good point! When we evolved the ability to make vitamin D from sunlight, few of us lived long enough to develop skin cancer. Now that we are devolving instead, the risk of cancer is greater than the risk of low vitamin D deficiency, for which we don't really need skin absorption anymore, since we can get it in food and supplements
@notsogreen3 жыл бұрын
There's a polymorphism or mutation common in Europeans where no matter how much sun they get are still deficient. So getting lots of sun with fair skin is no guarantee.
@LPOLE223 жыл бұрын
If you listen to the video it tells you that it's almost impossible to know what low is. Is not like measuring gas in a fuel tank.
@loveblissman3 жыл бұрын
I know its crazy, I think WHO actually label the SUN (yes the actual sun, not bad exposure) as carcinogenic. So if we removed the sun it would be all good, lol. But I have seen studies that show good healthy exposure to the sun reduces Cancer ! Vitamin D helps fight it, just done burn !
@frogmouth Жыл бұрын
When i took Vit D tablets my level of Vit D was still low. Then it was suggested i move my swim time from 6 am to 8 or 9 am so i get 2 hours of sun as well as taking a Vit D capsule daily and my Vit D level is in the normal range now. I am not aware of any symtoms when having low Vitamin D levels
@diane44882 жыл бұрын
I have various chronic conditions that affect my abilities to get around and do normal things. For roughly 5 years, I had the flu vaccine, and then spent those winters with one cold, flu, and chest infection, after another. At least once or twice a year I would have pains all over, coughing up blood, and was hardly able to even get to the bathroom and the kitchen each day. In 2010 I stopped having the flu vaccine and started taking Vitamin D. I've not had a serious cold or flu since then! And only had 4, very mild colds. In 12 years! There is no doubt in my mind that vaccines do not assist my immune system at all - whilst Vitamin D has greatly improved the quality of my life, especially in winter. I'm not suggesting the same would be true for you, but can only pass on my own experience.
@antihighstreet2 жыл бұрын
Vitamin D has revolutionised my life.I was always asthmatic my whole life and would get chest infections three times a year at least. Then my Doctor did a blood test for me and I was deficient in vitamin D so I started to take it and four years down the line I barely have to use my inhalers anymore. I would urge everyone to take it!