The Vlachs of Samarina (Greece)

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The Great Dance: At the time of Christ, the Vlachs were shepherds, isolated from everything, living in almost complete self-sufficiency; they occupied the mountains of northern Greece. They were organized into close-knit clans and driven by a great desire to develop.
They acquired new power by becoming Roman citizens, were able to expatriate and adapt to the point of becoming indispensable. They became brewers in Hamburg, jewelers in Vienna, furriers in Budapest, flour millers in Alexandria, financiers in New York, teachers in Athens... without really having lost the spirit of the clan.
“La Grande Danse” is the story of a man who lives today in the montages of his ancestors. Once a year, his village organizes the Great Dance which brings together all the Vlachs, on the evening of August 15, in the highlands of Samarina.
Director: Despina PANTAZIS

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@user-cl2hq1ks5o
@user-cl2hq1ks5o Ай бұрын
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@xmanxxx2000
@xmanxxx2000 18 күн бұрын
Good evening from New York, stop lying yourself and others we know the truth and the real truth is under their skin mate.
@wardafournello
@wardafournello 5 күн бұрын
We all know that the Aromanians are Latinized Paleo-Balkan populations, Thracians, Illyrians, Greeks, Dacians, Getae, Moesians, etc. But many non Greeks disagree that the Vlachs of the Pindos mountains are of Greek origin. Why? Can someone explain why?
@eliasrudi9728
@eliasrudi9728 2 күн бұрын
Because all the world is greek with the difference of those who don't know yet. This is you.....
@wardafournello
@wardafournello Күн бұрын
@@eliasrudi9728 This is not a serious answer to my question. And anyway, NO, I'm not the one who supports what you said, Victor Hugo does . "Greece is the contracting World and the World is the expanding Greece" Victor Hugo 26.2.1802 - 22.5.1885.
@costine1
@costine1 10 күн бұрын
Aromanians ..they speak in Romanian language dialect as my grandparents….tracians brothers of Dacians
@harristheodosis5204
@harristheodosis5204 3 күн бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅No they are not Romanians
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
As a roman/vlach ie latin speaking Greek/Romios thank you commentators for informing me that apparently I am Albanian, Serb, Bulgarian, Skopian, Romanian etc apparently my ancestors got their Greek ethnicity wrong because did not have youtubers to correct them.
@paulpaustovanu8816
@paulpaustovanu8816 12 күн бұрын
you are welcomed
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 12 күн бұрын
@@paulpaustovanu8816 My pleasure pustistonvano
@arbenvuthi7103
@arbenvuthi7103 11 күн бұрын
no, actually all Balkans, Europe Africa and Australia are greek, so are the baklava, white cheese, salat, just like Israeli falafel. Apparently no matter what researchers say, or even the people themselves, the greeks will say it is not true. Here is a story for you: When I lived in Atica, all arvanites told me that their grandparents did not speak greek. (of course the rural folks that never had to deal with the administration). Dont take my word, ask them yourself. But the answer of most greeks is"it is not true", and that I am lying.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 11 күн бұрын
@@arbenvuthi7103 Ya right but lets assume you are correct, so what? Did the arvanites also tell you why they moved to Greece? Did they also tell you who kikilled and rraaped their women?
@arbenvuthi7103
@arbenvuthi7103 10 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 ok there we are, your way of discourse is "change the subject and make up crap", We were at the subject of the origin. Now the rape part. Where did you get that. half of Albania is christian. The Arvanites are in their lands buddy. I wander if they know that the "greeks", say about them: "gamoto arvanites mas piran ola ta ikopedha". This I heard from a "greek" that came from Egypt. Precious. You cant make this stuff up.
@almeu433
@almeu433 9 күн бұрын
Vlachs are old Romanians...Romanized Thracians.
@milisabesiris8014
@milisabesiris8014 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing this documentary. I enjoyed it very much.❤️
@stanciuflorin5328
@stanciuflorin5328 17 күн бұрын
VALAH,walahia ,România...
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 15 күн бұрын
We know that Romanians are latin dacians like aromanians/ vlach are Latin speaking Greeks.
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 12 күн бұрын
​@@dggmn2109all of them are part of the old Thracians and Getae people who were living all the South and Central Europe and becoming later known as Latin speaker.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 11 күн бұрын
@@ionelghiorghita688 Do a quick google search "The Dacians have their origins in the broader migration of the Indo-European people to Europe. By 500 BCE, the Dacian people had generated their own distinct culture and society in the area of modern-day Romania. They were broadly culturally connected to the Thracian people to the south." I know you lost your language and culture after you were invaded by the romans you do not need to tell me this.
@arbenvuthi7103
@arbenvuthi7103 4 күн бұрын
I agree but those greeks are very strange and want to say stubbornly that Aromanians are not romanians
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 3 күн бұрын
@@ionelghiorghita688 is this what ancient Greeks historians like Herodotus say or are you using ancient Dacian sources.
@paulpaustovanu8816
@paulpaustovanu8816 12 күн бұрын
Vlachs are Aromanians, part of the Daco-Getians,, that learned Latin, then this popular Latin that became the ROMANIAN language north of the Danube and Aromanian in the Balkan mountains. The Greeks were calling themselfs Romaioi, Romans, but also were calling the Aromanians, Romanoi, which also means Romans, that were speaking a language derived from Latin. The Romanians and the Aromanians South of the Danube were the victims of the migrations, of the Ottoman Turkish conquest and of the nationalism of the Greek, Bulgarian, and Serbian States in the 19 and 20th century. Many Aromanians were and still are afraid or discouraged from speaking their mother language. Aromanian kids going to the Aromanian school build by the Romanian state, were killed by the so called Grecomans, fanatical supporters of the Greek state.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 12 күн бұрын
Ya right the Greek state persecute the latin speaking Greeks and the latin speaking Greeks stayed in Greece and did not move to Vlachia to save themselves like the Greeks from Anatolia did. We love latinized Dacian propaganda and we know some desperate poor latin speaking Greeks that got paid money moved to latinized Dacia to become instruments of the latinazed Dacian propoganda.
@wardafournello
@wardafournello 5 күн бұрын
"Kids were killed" What you say are lies and slanders. The video clearly mentions the Greek, Dorian origin of the Vlachs of the Pindos Mountains, and their Greek consciousness.Not only the the Daco-Getians but also other Balkan populations were Latinized. By the way,Rome ( Roman ,Romioi ,Romanoi,Rum) is a Greek word means strength,power.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 5 күн бұрын
Lovely fairy tale as a latin speaking Greek/Roman/Romios etc I was not aware that I was discouraged to speak latin on top of Greek, what happen to the Dacian language can you enlighten us frate.
@vera_val
@vera_val 15 күн бұрын
In public, greeks tear their clothes about how much greek the vlachs are, but in private conversations they claim the opposite. In fact, the greeks consider vlachs to be romanians.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
Ya right and Hungarians consider the Romanians gipsies
@nicolaefurtuna3906
@nicolaefurtuna3906 14 күн бұрын
Iar românii îi considera pe unguri drept Mongolia.. 😅​@@dggmn2109
@user-ez5ts3tr9x
@user-ez5ts3tr9x 14 күн бұрын
Καστοριά το λένε Βλάκα Αλβανε
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 You mean the Asian Mongols frame Carpathian Dacian majority as the 3% Indian minority?
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 No I mean the Eskimo albanians
@johnavlakiotis
@johnavlakiotis 16 күн бұрын
the most fanatic GREEKS in Greece
@arbenvuthi7103
@arbenvuthi7103 11 күн бұрын
I see you have that last name. If you want to appear more greek than the Greeks, it is a different matter, but it doesnt change the historic facts
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 9 күн бұрын
Min 21 Romanians are known for carving wood especially in Maramureș region. Vlachs are related to Romanians. But they are are formed from the Ladin, the tribe of Dan. La D_n. El D_n
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 13 күн бұрын
Arta 🇦🇱 Preveza 🇦🇱 Janina 🇦🇱 Kosturi 🇦🇱 Florina 🇦🇱 Margalleci 🇦🇱 Peloponesi 🇦🇱. Te çlirome Çamerine qe tani! 🇦🇱🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 12 күн бұрын
Washington, Munich, Cambera, Paris, Oslo, Appolonia, Epidamnos, Tashkent, Peking, Jakarta, Tokyo, Te çlirome Durres, Pogradec qe tani!
@user-vw3xr3gg2x
@user-vw3xr3gg2x 12 күн бұрын
Αλβανε Νηστικε Ηλίθιε.Ρωτα τη μάνα σού.
@garmy441
@garmy441 12 күн бұрын
you cant even cross the Calais straight to seek assylum in Britain poor Albo
@notme1411
@notme1411 11 күн бұрын
Qr ti lale vetem me urrejtje jetoke gjynof me qen ti
@matthaiosvlachos3526
@matthaiosvlachos3526 6 күн бұрын
Hahahaha hahahahaha
@adinamedrea5303
@adinamedrea5303 4 күн бұрын
Valachs are romanians. They speak our language. We understand what they say. 😊
@user-qn3my6ts1x
@user-qn3my6ts1x 20 күн бұрын
Comment expliquez vous le nom de Valachie, etat constitue' au nord du Danube depuis 11-ieme siecle a. H., habite par VALAQUES, lequel au prezent fait partie de la Roumanie ?
@miodragjordacijevic4525
@miodragjordacijevic4525 18 күн бұрын
des valachies existere 2, valachia ripinis et valachia mediteranea, et les Roumans sont desandants des valques, autrement apple aussi le cincars,beaucoups ete au service de la 5eme legion de cesar d' ou cinci
@user-qn3my6ts1x
@user-qn3my6ts1x 18 күн бұрын
Meci, thank you for the answer. It is total correct. Then why they call them "latin speaking greeks"???
@miodragjordacijevic4525
@miodragjordacijevic4525 18 күн бұрын
La Walachie ripinis été du Danube à Nisus ou Niš d'aujourd'hui et la Walachie méditerranéen de Nisus à laTace c'est à dire le nord-est de la Grèce d'aujourd'hui tandis que la Roumanie d'aujourd'hui s'appellé la Dace ou Dachia ,le territoire de la Macédoine d'aujourd'hui été plutôt la Trace ou la Trachia et l'Albanie d'aujourd'hui n'a jamais existe sous le nom ALBANIE c'était une province Trace appelé Raban ALBANIE à eu le nom Albu ce que veut dire Blanc et c'est typique car les habitants portent un chapeau blanc le quetsche en tunique blanche ,le nord de la Grèce d'aujourd'hui été peuplé par des Grèce pendant la fin de l'empire Otmane il habité tous en Asie l'échange à eu à l'effondrement de l'empire Otmane, regardez dans les anales d'histoire vous allez trouver, et le terroir ou les Valaques habité il me semble l'avoir acheté une deuxième fois au Otmans auparavant il avez le droit valache déjà depuis le temps de Kostanin pour proliférer la religion chrétienne etc etc............
@dibran_1
@dibran_1 17 күн бұрын
Është shqip vlla kemi një gjak
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
They invent Greek identities for the former real east Romans of Latin language, to assimilate them into Greeks.
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 9 күн бұрын
Absolutely amazing. Min 14.25 Vârtej 🌀 This is the same as in 🇷🇴 Romania, Maramureș. But there it is made naturally in the rivers. We are talking about the same Semitic civilization, the lost tribe of Dan. The Thracians, Dacians then tue Vlachs. That became the Romanians, Saxons and the Celts.
@vera_val
@vera_val 15 күн бұрын
If they are greeks, why in Greece the term 'vlach' has a derogatory meaning?
@cosmomusa
@cosmomusa 15 күн бұрын
used to mean the differentiation between city dwellers and country people, with a negative sign on the latter due to lack of education
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 12 күн бұрын
​@@cosmomusathe cities habitants were since the Indo-European Greeks came from the steps and mixed with the Phoenicians traders, as Herodotus said, new came in the area and they found there the Pelasgians "who never left". So the villages people were since the beginning pelasgians/ Thracians speaking a language spoken all the South amd Central Europe in that moment. This is why they were different cultures and different people. This is why the Minoans has less "Indo-European DNA than the Mycenaeans who were more exposed to the 4000 years ago new Indo-Europeans invasion and mix. This is why the Mycenaeans didn't have defending walls before the Greeks invasion, as the rest of the European old culture the Mycenaeans didn't know what war is and never needed to defend themselves. The Greeks were very proud to enslave them neighbours, a practice never existing before. You will notice im this video the clean and honest life principles of life, part of the old European culture which was still visible until recently in the romanian mountains areas.
@apmoy70
@apmoy70 11 күн бұрын
Because the name vlach was identified with the hick and the yokel, it's not an ethnic slur, even the Sarakatsani who are ethnically Greeks but equally pastoralists and villagers, are called "vlachs"
@arbenvuthi7103
@arbenvuthi7103 11 күн бұрын
Vllachia is a rrgion in todays Romania and their language is different from greek. The are found in other countries too.
@user-xo6uo5vv2k
@user-xo6uo5vv2k 8 күн бұрын
Επειδή, μάλλον οι βλάχοι ήταν κτηνοτρόφοι, στην Ελλάδα όποιος είχε πρόβατα και γίδια τόν λένε, Βλάχο. Επίσης ήταν ένας τρόπος οι άνθρωποι των πόλεων νά προσβάλουν τους ανθρώπους της επαρχίας. Με την έννοια του αξεστου και τού απολίτιστου. Στην πραγματικότητα επειδή, πάντα οι άνθρωποι της πόλης, ζήλευαν την υγεία και την ζωντάνια των ανθρώπων της υπαίθρου.
@paulpaustovanu8816
@paulpaustovanu8816 12 күн бұрын
Dix minutes dans le documentaire et les erreurs historiques pleuvent. Alexandre le Grand et les Romains n'ont pas bâti l'empire byzantin, les Vlachs étaient dans l'Antiquité des Daco-Getae , partie des peuples Traces.
@sinjarialbana
@sinjarialbana 15 күн бұрын
My grandmother from mother line always said we are Sarakacans understand.Hello my lost brothers of lost holy Roman Empire
@watchwarrior8597
@watchwarrior8597 11 күн бұрын
I am a Katsanos and my Great Grandfather came from Greece to the US. Sarakatsanoi have been all over Pindos into Thracian and Bulgarian mountain ranges as well .
@danbujor5991
@danbujor5991 9 күн бұрын
Vlahs and Greeks come from Tracians. That was a people from Boemia to Kazakhstan. People that were there before Greeks. Tracs influenced most of the world, from England to Japan. I see Romanian words in Japanese. I understand some Sanskrit without learning.
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 10 күн бұрын
May 23 - Happy International Vlachs Day !
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 8 күн бұрын
A question . My father a greek cypriot went to the uk in1946. Lived there had children grandchildren and great grandchildren .The great grandchildren only speak english now. ARE THEY english or greek cypriot?
@neloglass
@neloglass 6 күн бұрын
Your question is terribly screwed up. These people live in Greece and they didn't learn their language from Greeks. It is their language from their ancestors. They are not Vlachs (Vlachs are further North), they are Machidons/Macedonians and they are not Greek, nor were they ever Greeks. Alexander the Great and his Macedonians were not Greeks. They were Macedonians and spoke the same language they speak today. There is lots of documentation on this matter in Antiquity books that survived, and I studied them all. Greeks today claim that the Macedonians of the past were Greeks, because they want to attach the great history of Macedonians to their own. Greeks have their great history, there is no need to try to steal Macedonians history, but when people get used to fame, they never have enough of it.
@ares1634
@ares1634 2 күн бұрын
Vlachs are partially Romanized Pelasgians, forced to declare Greek since the formation of Pindus republic was defeated in 1919. Pelasgians were Proto Indo European Getae people, originated in south Caucasus 6-7,000 years ago.
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
They can only tell you what they were told to tell, because their forefathers suffered dearly for claiming their own ethnic identity.
@HUNVeasnaRural
@HUNVeasnaRural Ай бұрын
Strange views❤❤❤
@user-cl9rl3sw2z
@user-cl9rl3sw2z 12 күн бұрын
Same lake in Ucraine mountains we have the people valah willages
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 12 күн бұрын
The original people of South and Central europe.
@danbujor5991
@danbujor5991 9 күн бұрын
You missed what is the most .important . MOSKOPOLE. The second biggest city in Balkans. Destroyed by albanian Muslims in few waves. Last they attacked in 1994. That is 20th century.
@ct.p.7493
@ct.p.7493 5 күн бұрын
All Vlahs I know in Greece identify themselves as Greeks. Regardless of... ancient origin, they are hellenized. Some had indeed Romanian national identity (and many of them collaborated with the Nazis in WWII) but they were a minority of Vlahs.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 12 күн бұрын
Love documentaries when they have sweet little mistakes like the wrong map location of the village, what the name Samarina means and why Samarina is so famous. Latinized Dacians search for Παιδια της Σαμαρινας/Ficiori di Samarina and explain to the Albanians, Slavs and the rest of the world what the song is about.
@australiaprisonisland9156
@australiaprisonisland9156 11 күн бұрын
What is the paternal haplogroup of the people in this region. Are they mostly EV13 or J2b carriers.
@mesimeriaris
@mesimeriaris 6 күн бұрын
More J2 than EV13, with good amounts of R1b. Low R1a and low I2a. Actually they are similar to Greeks and Albanians, with a extra Western - Italian Dna. Not as close genetically to Romanians , as someone would expect.
@australiaprisonisland9156
@australiaprisonisland9156 6 күн бұрын
@@mesimeriaris I suspected they were more prevalent carriers of J2b. Much like the coastal peoples of the Adriatic. Dalmatians etc. The R1b component is leftover Celts who lived in close proximity to the Mediterranean types. Fascinating all the same. EV13 carrier myself.
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 4 күн бұрын
They are Greeks of the Eastern Roman Empire.
@Barkovsky251
@Barkovsky251 Ай бұрын
😳😳🌸
@GrecoByzantine1821
@GrecoByzantine1821 17 күн бұрын
Aromanians are Greeks speakers of a latin dialect with a lot of Greek words included! 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 12 күн бұрын
Greeks are also pelasgians/Thracians mixed with the Phoenicians traders and Indo-European warriors who changed the old pelasgians culture of peace and freedom with the semitic culture of trading , authority and slavery.
@GrecoByzantine1821
@GrecoByzantine1821 12 күн бұрын
@@ionelghiorghita688 Keep dreaming that the whole world is Albanian. You are a Creole nation with a language consisted of Greek, Latin, Turkish, Slavic and less than 10% paleobalkanic origin words mostly of Thracian and Not of Illyrian origin. Show me Illyrian inscriptions?Show me Illyrian temples?show me Illyrian theatres?Show me Illyrian sculptures?Show me Illyrians mosaics?Show me Illyrians stadiums?Show me Illyrian epigraphs? Tell me names of Illyrians philosophers? Tell me names of ancient Illyrian athletes in the ancient Olympic Games? Show me the seven Illyrian wonders of the ancient world? Where are the Illyrian ancient libraries??? Where are the ancient Illyrians colonies in Asia,Spain,south France,al all around black sea, the Levante, Syria, etc? Till you find them, hide in your cave 🤫🤫 I repeat that 90% of your vocabulary is actually Greek,Latin, Slavic, Turkish, English and less than 20% of paleobalkanic origin. There are glossologists who made that research and is scientifically accepted. Except few toponyms and words of messapic or Illyrian origin which don't consist more than 5% the rest 5% is of mainly Thracian, Celtic origin words. Even the word Gomar is coming from the Greek language, even the word autochthonous is coming from the Greek language, even the word harta is coming from the Greek language. What you don't want to accept???? No serious historian, actually No-one teaching in any university around the world accepts this Albanian-Illyrian history. The origin of the albanians remains a "mystery" and the most possible scenario is that they are a CREOLE nation. Residuals of Romans, Greeks, Thracians, few Illyrians,Celts etc who escaped latinisation and Greekification cause of their isolation in the harsh area of modern day North Albania. Show me your Illyrian theatres, Illyrian temples, any Illyrian mosaics, etc Nothing to show me except very few Illyrian artifacts heavily Hellenized. You can try hard to prove that you are straight descendants of the ancient Illyrians just because they lived in the same geographical area but the same can do the Bosniaks or the Croats or the Slovenians or even the Serbs. Almost all of the artifacts you have in your museums are of Greek or Roman origin. Just go to the museum of Durres and see by your own eyes. The Skopians tried to say to the world that they are the descendants of ancient Macedonians but they failed. You are in the same category. Please continue to expose yourselfs with your pseydo-Glossology and pseudo-history theories and make the whole world laugh at you even more! Illyrian was part of the Indo-European language family. Its relation to other Indo-European languages, ancient and modern, is poorly understood because of the paucity of data and because it is still being examined. Today, the main source of authoritative information about Illyrian consists of a handful of Illyrian words cited in classical sources and numerous examples of Illyrian anthroponyms, ethnonyms, toponyms and hydronyms. The scarcity of the data makes it difficult to identify the sound changes that have taken place in Illyrian; the most widely accepted one is that the Indo-European voiced aspirates /bʰ/, /dʰ/, /ɡʰ/ became voiced consonants /b/, /d/, /ɡ/. Recent scholarship from the 1960s and on tends to agree that the region inhabited by Illyrian tribes can be divided into three distinct linguistic and cultural areas, of which only one can be properly termed "Illyrian". No written texts regarding self-identification exist from the Illyrians and no inscriptions in Illyrian exist, with the only linguistic remains being place names (toponyms) and some glosses.
@GrecoByzantine1821
@GrecoByzantine1821 12 күн бұрын
@@ionelghiorghita688 Lexican borrowing are responsible for as much as ninety percent of the Albanian vocabulary. Especially from Greek and Latin! Examples: Zemër with the meaning of 'centre of the day', or from the same root of Greek ημέρα (iméra, “day”), although the initial anlaut z- remains unexplained. A borrowing from Greek διήμερον (diímeron, “period of twenty-four hours”) is not excluded. Mellan: from Greek μελάνι (meláni). Kapister: from Greek καπίστρι (kapístri) Barkë: borrowed from Greek βάρκα (várka) Merimange: First attested as mrīmagë; borrowed from Greek μυρμήγκι (myrmígki, “ant”). According to Kristofordhi and Mihăescu, a borrowing from Doric Greek μύρμαξ (múrmax) Laparos: from Greek λαπαρός (laparós) Gomar: inherited from Byzantine Greek γομάρι(ν) (gomári(n)), from Koine Greek γομάριον (gomárion, “load of an animal”), derived from Ancient Greek γόμος (gómos, “load, weight”). Gjyp: from Ancient Greek γύψ (gúps), compare Greek γύπας (gýpas) Avlli: from Ancient Greek αὐλή (aulḗ) Gamë: from Ancient Greek γάμμα (gámma). Bagëm: from Ancient Greek βάπτισμα (báptisma), internally corrupted or affected by another word, possibly bekoj (“I bless”). I can continue till tomorrow....... Learn real history. You are a CREOLE nation. You are the residuals of Greeks,Romans,Slavs,Turks and few paleobalkanic people just isolated in the mountains of modern albania and created a Creole new nation through centuries. This Illyrian albanian connection theory lacks basic elements. It's just a pro Albanian hypothesis which is not widely supported by non albanian academics and historians. You pathetically trying to create your identity cause you are jealous of your Greek and Italian neighbours. You are the same as the Skopians who miserably tried to claim that they were the real descendants of the ancient Macedonians but failed miserably. Lol 🤣 I repeat that 90% of your vocabulary is actually Greek,Latin, Slavic, Turkish, English and less than 10% of paleobalkanic origin. There are glossologists who made that research and is scientifically accepted. Except few toponyms and words of messapic or Illyrian origin which don't consist more than 5% the rest 5% is of mainly Thracian, Celtic origin words. Even the word Gomar is coming from the Greek language, even the word autochthonous is coming from the Greek language, even the word harta is coming from the Greek language. What you don't want to accept???? No serious historian, actually No-one teaching in any university around the world accepts this Albanian-Illyrian history. The origin of the albanians remains a "mystery" and the most possible scenario is that they are a CREOLE nation. Residuals of Romans, Greeks, Thracians, few Illyrians,Celts etc who escaped latinisation and Greekification cause of their isolation in the harsh area of modern day North Albania. Show me your Illyrian theatres, Illyrian temples, any Illyrian mosaics, etc Nothing to show me except very few Illyrian artifacts heavily Hellenized. You can try hard to prove that you are straight descendants of the ancient Illyrians just because they lived in the same geographical area but the same can do the Bosniaks or the Croats or the Slovenians or even the Serbs. The Skopians tried to say to the world that they are the descendants of ancient Macedonians but they failed. You are in the same category. Please make people laugh with you. Illyrian was part of the Indo-European language family. Its relation to other Indo-European languages, ancient and modern, is poorly understood because of the paucity of data and because it is still being examined. Today, the main source of authoritative information about Illyrian consists of a handful of Illyrian words cited in classical sources and numerous examples of Illyrian anthroponyms, ethnonyms, toponyms and hydronyms. The scarcity of the data makes it difficult to identify the sound changes that have taken place in Illyrian; the most widely accepted one is that the Indo-European voiced aspirates /bʰ/, /dʰ/, /ɡʰ/ became voiced consonants /b/, /d/, /ɡ/. Recent scholarship from the 1960s and on tends to agree that the region inhabited by Illyrian tribes can be divided into three distinct linguistic and cultural areas, of which only one can be properly termed "Illyrian". No written texts regarding self-identification exist from the Illyrians and no inscriptions in Illyrian exist, with the only linguistic remains being place names (toponyms) and some glosses. All of south and coastal Albania is Greek! Above only few of the ancient Greek cities founded by Greek settlers in Albania: 1)Berat=Antipatrea 2)Dropull=Dryinopolis or Dropolis 3)Durres=Epidamnus 4)Butrint=Buthroton 5)Sarande=Onchesmus 6)Argyrokastron=Silver castle 7)Pojani=Apollonia 8)Vlore=Aulon 9)Finiq=Phoenice 10)Korce=Pelion 11)Lezhe=Lissus 12)Shengjin=Nymphaion 13)Himara=Himare 14)Antigone=Antigona 15)Ploc=Amantia=Abantia 16)Oriku=ancient Greek Oricon and many more smaller settlements. 17)Ksamil=Eksamili 18)Kolonje=Koloneia 19)Devoll=Deapolis 20)Peshkopi=Episkope (The name of Peshkopi is derived from the word peshkop meaning bishop in Albanian and from Episkopè in Greek.) 21)Këlcyrë=Kleisourai 22)Nicea 23)Pelion=ancient Greek City near Cangonj Pass The word kleisoúra (Medieval Greek: κλεισοῦρα) was eventually borrowed by all Balkan peoples, becoming the root of several place-names. 😊🤫🇬🇷🇬🇷 All of the south Albanians have more than 40% Greek DNA coming from albanised northern Epirotan Greeks. Close your mouth now you Albanian shepperd 🤡🐏 🐏
@ermioniburgess8720
@ermioniburgess8720 7 күн бұрын
Where did you get this information.Greek language was before the Latin.Latin came after the Greek.Romans got their alphabet from the Etruscans and Etruscans from Cumean Greeks.
@GrecoByzantine1821
@GrecoByzantine1821 7 күн бұрын
@@ermioniburgess8720 I know that, just wrong typing. I meant they are Greeks who speak a Latin dialect with a lot of Greek words included
@youngshatterhand810
@youngshatterhand810 5 күн бұрын
aren't Vlachs actually Romanians? Trough their entire history Romanians are called Vlachs
@australiaprisonisland9156
@australiaprisonisland9156 11 күн бұрын
From my observations these people sound Greek yet look somewhat different to the Greeks.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 11 күн бұрын
Ya they have three legs and one hand.
@australiaprisonisland9156
@australiaprisonisland9156 10 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 Without disparaging the Romany communities. Did the Gypsies also have settlements up there in the mountains.
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 6 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 At least they are not like Allah, who would have two right hands. Read the Qur'an.
@neloglass
@neloglass 6 күн бұрын
They do not sound Greek at all. You Must be American, because Americans are not exposed to foreign languages, and are limited in the ability of identifying other languages. They are not Vlachs (Vlachs are further North), they are Machidons/Macedonians and they are not Greek, nor were they ever Greeks. Alexander the Great and his Macedonians were not Greeks. They were Macedonians and spoke the same language they speak today. There is lots of documentation on this matter in Antiquity books that survived, and I studied them all. Greeks today claim that the Macedonians of the past were Greeks, because they want to attach the great history of Macedonians to their own. Greeks have their great history, there is no need to try to steal Macedonians history, but when people get used to fame, they never have enough of it.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 5 күн бұрын
@@neloglass As you are a slav first explain to us what the words Macedonian, Alexander, Philip etc mean in your slavic language and next worry if the Macedonians are Greek or not.
@fadilkryeziu4786
@fadilkryeziu4786 2 күн бұрын
Keta Jan shqiptar
@Senoncifossimonoi.....
@Senoncifossimonoi..... 19 күн бұрын
Sembra certa gente dell' interno della Barbagia
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 6 күн бұрын
Perché sono pastori e hanno costumi bizantini. Infatti, la Sardegna è stata persa nominalmente da Bisanzio molto tardi.
@terryeustice5399
@terryeustice5399 Ай бұрын
Not even sub titles. 🥲
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 9 күн бұрын
48.37 Romanian Hora Also the revived Jewish dance Now you understand, WE ARE OF SEMITIC ORIGINS in Europe. Coming from Thracians, Sarmatiabs and Dacians. In fact from Samaritans of Samaria ancient-culture Israel. The lost tribes of Israel. The lots tribe of Dan.
@neloglass
@neloglass 6 күн бұрын
It is the other way around. Semitic people didn't exist. The Hebrew people originated on Hebron River in Thracia called Maritsa today.
@mickeymouse1697
@mickeymouse1697 14 күн бұрын
VLACHS ARE THE BIGGEST PATRIOTS IN GREECE AND THE GREATEST BENEFACTORS IN GREECE
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
Except that they are not recognized as an ethnic minority and don't benefit from education in mother tongue, a totally different language than Greek.
@Gerico9008
@Gerico9008 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001thanks to the greek chauvinism
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 We vlachs always used two languages to communicate, on every day interaction we used latin for written word we used Greek, in your case why do you speak the language of the roman invader that destroyed your culture, customs, way of life and adopted Greek and latin names and culture why you do not speak and write Dacian? Why romania does not recognize the Dacian ethic minority and does not educate dacians in their mother tongue a totally different language than romance?
@MrQ454
@MrQ454 13 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 Until the Dacians you will lost your language and traditions and become some Greek.
@user-yf9yz5jj9j
@user-yf9yz5jj9j 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 They do not want to be recognised as a minority, they feell and are Greek. Besides as wich ethnic minority should they be recognised, since they are a linguistic group only? Does Romania recognise a Vlach-minority?
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 9 күн бұрын
28.30 The traditional clothing is very Semitic.
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 6 күн бұрын
No. It is simply very medieval byzantine (with turkish successive influences).
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 4 күн бұрын
Not even close
@wardafournello
@wardafournello 19 күн бұрын
Étymologie. Ελληνική Δωρική διάλεκτος "βλᾱχά," =Grec Doric dialekt '"vlaha" = bêler En grec moderne βλάχος-βλάχα =vlachos-vlacha Tribu Dorique du Pinde. Ils parlaient un dialecte latin comme les Aroumains. L'étymologie de l'allemand "Walachen " n'est pas correcte puisque les Allemands définissaient les Celtes, Wells,Welsch par le nom "Walachen ".
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
Vlach = Pelag
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 6 күн бұрын
The Greek nationalist etymologist is here.
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 5 күн бұрын
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Funny thing is that other 28-30 million Vlachs don't know any sort of Greek, but they share a similar language and a large common vocabulary with the few Vlachs of south Balkans left, after thorough assimilation by the Greeks, Albanians, and south Slavs. Should have a real thick face to call that a Greek language.
@wardafournello
@wardafournello 5 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 What do you mean? That all the Latinized populations of various Balkan nations became... a new nation?😀 Aromanians are not a nation.They are different nations,( Thracians, Greeks, Illyrians, Dacians, Celts, Getae) , Latinized.
@wardafournello
@wardafournello 5 күн бұрын
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 LIDDELL & SCOTT Dictionary of the Ancient Greek Language. Ιων:βληχή, Δωρ: βλᾱχά, ἡ, βέλασμα· οἰῶν, σε Ομήρ. Οδ.· το κλάμα των παιδιών (νηπίων), σε Ευριπίδης. (ηχομιμ. λέξη). Ionic:Vleche, Doric : Vlacha, the , bleat by sheep in Homer. Od.; the cry of children (infants), in Euripides. (phonemic word).
@nikravdos5723
@nikravdos5723 16 күн бұрын
They are clearly Lithunians
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
Good point but I think they are navajo Indians
@nikravdos5723
@nikravdos5723 14 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 could be, amongst the blue eyed people I saw some dark skin faces as well...good point, thanks for mentioning
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
@@nikravdos5723 no worries
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
lol They speak east Romance, like Romanians, you funny guys.
@nikravdos5723
@nikravdos5723 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 yeah clearly Lithuania Romanians from Laponia
@mariadoloresalvaromanuel6321
@mariadoloresalvaromanuel6321 Ай бұрын
No está doblado al español, 🤷
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
Indoctrination that Romance speaking east Romans of Balkans are somehow.. Greeks.
@danbujor5991
@danbujor5991 9 күн бұрын
You hear in the vid ""hai"". Any Romanian would understand this. Come, let's go. From the Hebrew ""haia"". If I tell you that Sanskrit is part Hebrew, part Greek,part Romanian, I'm sure you cannot process the information.
@giorgiodifrancesco4590
@giorgiodifrancesco4590 6 күн бұрын
Studying is no longer needed. Just go to any Greek or Romanian and oops....
@youngshatterhand810
@youngshatterhand810 5 күн бұрын
"hai" is short for "haide" which is used all over Balkans
@user-zh4yj8rq6l
@user-zh4yj8rq6l 11 күн бұрын
Ελλαδάρα Παντού 🇬🇷
@Touchedbynature304
@Touchedbynature304 21 күн бұрын
Those are Serbs
@alexandrutita4850
@alexandrutita4850 19 күн бұрын
Serbs? Ha ha, they are vlachs, they are like romanians. They speak a neo-latin language not a slavic one.
@e.h97
@e.h97 18 күн бұрын
Ooooooomg you again?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Touchedbynature304
@Touchedbynature304 18 күн бұрын
@@e.h97 not albanian bot
@Touchedbynature304
@Touchedbynature304 18 күн бұрын
@@alexandrutita4850 you wish
@Touchedbynature304
@Touchedbynature304 18 күн бұрын
@@e.h97 hello Berber
@chrisapost5409
@chrisapost5409 16 күн бұрын
They are orthodox christians they are Greeks
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
Orthodoxy was adopted in 451 AD by the Latin Roman empire, specifically against the Monophysite Greeks. Greeks adopted Orthodoxy in 682 AD, after many Orthodox martyrs, specially during Monophysite Heraclid dynasty.
@chrisapost5409
@chrisapost5409 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 Greece is the motherland of Orthodox Christianity to which the teaching of Christianity was directly transferred by the apostles of Jesus
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 13 күн бұрын
@@chrisapost5409 Forget this crap lies, Orthodoxy was implemented in the Roman empire at the Council of Calchedon, in 451 AD, by the Pope Leo I and empress Pulcheria, expressly AGAINST the Monophysite Greeks, led by then ex empress Eudokia, of Greek ethnicity. Was Roman Constantinople and Rome against Greek Alexandria and Antioch, demoted from equal status after that ecumenical council. Moreover the Orthodox suffererd dearly when the Monophysite Greeks came to power in 610 AD and between the Orthodox martylrs were Pope Martin and one of the most prolific Orthodox theologians Maxim the Confessor. The Greeks accepted Orthodoxy only after the mostly Greek regions of north west Africa and costal Levant fell to Arabs and the majority population left in the Balkans and around Constantinople were Orthodox Romans. That was the 4th ecumenical council in Constantinople, in 682 AD. Meanwhile most LATIN Romans were Orthodox since 451 AD.
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 12 күн бұрын
​@@chrisapost5409Just because of the writing habit. Otherwise there are hundreds of years older Christians churches in the Carpathian mountains caves.
@australiaprisonisland9156
@australiaprisonisland9156 5 күн бұрын
Latin speaking Roman Greeks. How can they be Greeks if they speak Latin. It's nonsensical. For me they're a Thracian people who adopted Latin and become remnants of the Roman empire. They are not Greeks. Today maybe so as they've been incorporated into the Greek State and society.
@carteunu467
@carteunu467 9 күн бұрын
Orthodox Christianity is Judeo Christianity. Now you understand why. It was developed by the lost tribes of Israel with Moses law worship 🛐 traditions
@odysseasntalias5950
@odysseasntalias5950 16 күн бұрын
Vlachs exist in Greece, if not always, at least 1000 years. They consider themselves greek , they were great patriots and benefactors of the greek state , they participated in all wars and national fights and in WW2 they participated in the resistance and rejected the nazi and romanian propaganda and ostracized a few vlach collaborators who expected benefits and power. This is the exact truth. All the other is malevolent propaganda of suspicious motivation!!! Even in albania , skopje and elsewhere in balkans vlachs were asking to be registered as greeks!!!
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 11 күн бұрын
If so, very sad for you to find out that the linguists are considering them romanians and not due to them language but also due to their habits, culture, traditions...
@odysseasntalias5950
@odysseasntalias5950 11 күн бұрын
@@ionelghiorghita688Language resembles to ancient latin but habits, customs and traditions are almost identical to those of their neighbours. Regarding musik especially their songs are exactly the same but with lyrics in their idiom.
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 11 күн бұрын
@@odysseasntalias5950 sorry, what I meant is that the Latin is actually the old Thracians/Getae language spoken all along the south and Central europe due to the Anatolian Balcanic and Carpathian (including West of Ukraine) migrations.
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 6 күн бұрын
Vlachs are great patriots of the state they live in. They are great Greeks or great Albanians or great North-Macedonians. They were great Turks, too : ) Should no national border exist and no pressure from a majority - they would be glad to be just great Vlachs.
@miodragjordacijevic4525
@miodragjordacijevic4525 18 күн бұрын
D'ailleur ils exprime en Grec pas en Aroman
@danielburlacu4621
@danielburlacu4621 13 күн бұрын
With the interviewer they speak greak. Between them, I hear them speaking aromanian.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
I speak as a latin speaking aroman/roman/greek the only difference between me and a Greek speaking romios/roman/Greek is that the romios/Greek kept the Greek language whereas the aroman/Greek used Latin as well both we are Greek in every shape and form. Romanians are latinised Dacians to say that Latin speaking Greeks are Romanians is like saying that navajo Indians are the same as Australians because both speak english.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 14 күн бұрын
Golden dawn has really brainwashed you hard 🤣
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
@@southepirote7676 ya like albanians are brainwashed to believe that Dures and pogradec and apolonia etc are albanian cities that happen to have Greek and slav names.
@mickeymouse1697
@mickeymouse1697 14 күн бұрын
@@southepirote7676 turko albanian muslim you can not hide
@Sofia-0001
@Sofia-0001 14 күн бұрын
@@dggmn2109 Chech historical documents and find out that Durres, Duraci was all the time in history, until 19 century, a majority Orthodox Vlach port. They had nothing to do with Greeks.
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 13 күн бұрын
@@Sofia-0001 I know that the port of dures was inhabited by Aroman/Roman/Vlach/Greeks why do you think we gave a Greek name to the city of Dures to Moscopole/Voscopole etc?
@georgegeorgakopoulos5956
@georgegeorgakopoulos5956 14 күн бұрын
One third of the population in Greece are turks,one third are gypsys,and one third are albanians(not the forced workers).
@spyridonnotidis3392
@spyridonnotidis3392 14 күн бұрын
Greeks invented the wheelbarrow and the Albanians supplied the power to use it.
@georgefakkas9797
@georgefakkas9797 13 күн бұрын
There is another 1/3,they are payed gay troll as you
@apmoy70
@apmoy70 11 күн бұрын
Ένα τρολ του κερατά είσαι, και μάλιστα χωρίς ταλέντο, ακόμα και το τρολάρισμα θέλει την ικανότητά του την οποία δεν κατέχεις
@neloglass
@neloglass 6 күн бұрын
I am sure the Greeks love your classification!!!
@stefanonorberti7933
@stefanonorberti7933 Ай бұрын
Cette massacre de moutons est horrible, atroce, barbare.
@dimitriosvlissides5781
@dimitriosvlissides5781 20 күн бұрын
Ma's pour la Paque tu ne mange pa's l agnieau.?
@stefanonorberti7933
@stefanonorberti7933 12 күн бұрын
@@dimitriosvlissides5781 Les cadavres, mangez-les vous-mêmes!
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 11 күн бұрын
No way to keep all the males. Would be a big fight and finally a world of the sheeps.
@spyridonnotidis3392
@spyridonnotidis3392 14 күн бұрын
It seems that when the Roman Empire collapsed these people the Vlachis or most of them held their positions up on the mountains with their families and herds every five miles apart each family to serve the Romans it was the fastest way for passing messages along the Empire and being a watching dog The Vlachis who happened to be on the Greek land spoke Greek and Latin the ones who watched the Roumanian border spoke Greek and Latin that went on through different countries. nevertheless, all of them have Greek roots Kαι οπου φυσα ο ανεμος Αγαπαμε τους βλαχους μας
@ionelghiorghita688
@ionelghiorghita688 11 күн бұрын
Free to dream but a jewish business as the Greek identity build up to the pelasgians and Thracian citizens culture and language is just ome of the biggest fake of the history promoted by the Jews as convenient being part of them culture and actions in the long way of Europe and finally world hegemony.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, they are latinized Albanians eventually assimilated to Greek by the oppressive right wing Greek government led by Miqotaki
@kostasfpspro1706
@kostasfpspro1706 16 күн бұрын
They are VLACHS with GREEK consciousness. So they are Greek people. Cry more about it. Samarina is a greek village of Grevena. My one origin is from Grevena too from a village which is called Monachiti.
@topg4717
@topg4717 16 күн бұрын
@@kostasfpspro1706I am vlach from Albania and we came from voskopoli
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
No they are angisized Chinese from North pole
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
​​@@topg4717tsi fatsi frate eu hiou di ameru
@user-ez5ts3tr9x
@user-ez5ts3tr9x 14 күн бұрын
Albanian junk
@enikurti9005
@enikurti9005 19 күн бұрын
They are albanian.
@troyscott9362
@troyscott9362 18 күн бұрын
The old man in 27:28 disagrees with you
@kostasfpspro1706
@kostasfpspro1706 16 күн бұрын
🤣
@nikravdos5723
@nikravdos5723 16 күн бұрын
can you stop trolling and accept how little you are inside historical time.
@odysseasntalias5950
@odysseasntalias5950 16 күн бұрын
In every video about balkans an albanian will "pop up like a fart" and start spreading the nonsense he learned from albanian tiktok scholars.... You forgot to write that jesus, Aristotle, Alexander the great, Julius Caesar, Napoleon , Einstein etc are albanians. So ridiculous sqiptar 😅😅😅😅
@dggmn2109
@dggmn2109 14 күн бұрын
Ya they are albanian like the eskimos
@neloglass
@neloglass 6 күн бұрын
They are not Vlachs (Vlachs are further North), they are Machidons/Macedonians and they are not Greek, nor were they ever Greeks. Alexander the Great and his Macedonians were not Greeks. They were Macedonians and spoke the same language they speak today. There is lots of documentation on this matter in Antiquity books that survived, and I studied them all. Greeks today claim that the Macedonians of the past were Greeks, because they want to attach the great history of Macedonians to their own. Greeks have their great history, there is no need to try to steal Macedonians history, but when people get used to fame, they never have enough of it.
@michaelhadjimichael4778
@michaelhadjimichael4778 6 күн бұрын
Is that why Alexander taught greek language and culture everywhere he went . And all of Asia and India had hellenism. And India. In India there was 7 greek kings after the he's death . Ptolemy he's general spread greek culture in Egypt. All the world knows that what did they teach you at school .You are the ones that stealing history. The now north Macedonians are a mix of slavs Bulgarians albanians and turks
@davidaxelos4678
@davidaxelos4678 8 сағат бұрын
What do You know about Macedonians? 🤣
@neloglass
@neloglass 8 сағат бұрын
@@davidaxelos4678 I know about the Macedonians and the Greeks, and Romans, more than anyone else on earth. I studied all the antiquity books that survived and are translated in English. Nobody else on earth did that.
@davidaxelos4678
@davidaxelos4678 8 сағат бұрын
@@neloglass And sooo little did You understand? Don't You think Macedonian is a West Bulgarian dialect?
@user-vq6qi4kh8g
@user-vq6qi4kh8g 28 күн бұрын
Kasturi et non kostoria..Les Albanais expoulsse par les grecs...Haxhisemalis...Il parler Albanais et vous devez dire.. Arrête de manipuler l histoire...
@georgegaitanidis2161
@georgegaitanidis2161 28 күн бұрын
Εισαι βλακας ? Αντε γαμισου εσυ και η αλβανια . Για την βορειο ηπειρο ?
@miodragjordacijevic4525
@miodragjordacijevic4525 18 күн бұрын
je suis cincar de cote de mon ariere grand pere mais d'ou je ne sais pas
@miodragjordacijevic4525
@miodragjordacijevic4525 18 күн бұрын
l'isoire est deja manipule depuis long temps pas maintenant
@georgegaitanidis2161
@georgegaitanidis2161 18 күн бұрын
@@miodragjordacijevic4525 Να ρωτησης την μητερα σου , ποιος ειναι ο μπαμπα σου . Βλακα αλβανε
@gathenien
@gathenien 17 күн бұрын
Les meilleirs grecs de la Crece moderne etaient des Donnateurs Valaques .La langue ne donne pas la nationalite , les francophone Africans ne son't pas des francais .Arrettez dire des betises surtout ceux des pays voisins qui veulemt voler par l histoire glorieuse de la Grece que tour le monde admire! qui n ont aucune histoire culturelle
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