If you're hearing voices..... You might get that checked out by a qualified medical professional.

Teaching is for the saints. preaching is for the lost.

Ummm. . . I don't want to misunderstand your comment. Are you saying that there is no spirit world? No forces of darkness? 😬 When I hear people say things like "really means". I hear don't believe the Word, believe my interpretation of the Word. Nooooo good.

You should read the Bible, it's the literal *Word of God* , the Lord actively speaks to your spirit when you read His Word.

It's not just timely, its eternal.

Agreed not a preacher

The bible teaches that women should not teach men! Such a disgrace to the order of authority God has put in place.

yeh, she's gifted and funny. Living Godly is joyful. Thats why happy people are persecuted. Sharing a discovery at a gathering, does not mean you're the head of a man.

Deerik Bezuidenhout well I hope she doesn’t, because Jesus didn’t die so that if we are “wrong” in our theology as you suppose she is, that she would be eternally damned. He covered it all that we may have grace, grace is never by nature deserved or earned, it is given through faith in the price Jesus paid on the cross. I just see a women who loves him, and loves being in his presence, and for that reason she’s filled with Joy and life. And that overflows in her message and she shares that fruit with all she touches. I don’t understand why your heart is so hard against her, but judgement isn’t yours to cast onto others, you do not get to play the judge of others in regards to where they spend their eternity. The responsibility stands on Gods just shoulders. Love you brother! I would love to continue this conversation more, I do want to hear back from you, blessing 😊

@@mr.bsbasicenglish2044 so then as a follower of Christ, instead of condemning her publicly, you should be casting the demons out like Jesus said to, or do you prefer just pointing out "those sinners" and feeling glad that you aren't like them?

@@mr.bsbasicenglish2044 so why aren't you preaching the gospel?

@@mr.bsbasicenglish2044 all you seem to be doing is condemning people who believe differently than you do, and you seem to search out people to condemn to hell and insult, with no sign of anything that Jesus would say to them. Jesus encouraged sinners to come close to Him and learn from Him, and I don't hear you doing that. Your ministry sounds just like the Pharisees, pointing out the sins of others, and not giving them any encouragement of how to improve their lives.

@@mr.bsbasicenglish2044 Jesus called the non Israelite women by the name that the Israelites called them, it was not a random insult. It was to test her faith, and when she showed faith, Jesus gave her the miracle that she asked for. You have done nothing similar to this, especially not the giving her a blessing part.

Jessie Z thank you!

Reuben Oddlove new to all of this! Can you tell me why this is unsound ?

@@Geno79 Sharing something at a gathering does not mean she's the head lol. Her message was beautiful and profound.

@@Geno79 A gathering of yourselves together yes. sharing a message yeh. A preacher is for outreach purposes not for the saints. 5 fold ministry is for that. A pastor is the community counselor, a teacher unpacks topics in my opinion. I agree that the guy is the head of the girl. But also some camps operate under galatians 3;25, which is NT.

@@Geno79 I think that verse says that there is no man nor woman in Christ. She actually shares her story and journey with supporting verses. Thats how you overcome. She is helping allot of people with her story.

@@Geno79 i guess i just see her as a speaker. The points she making about how people view God is helping people who coming out of mean, overbearing, un-heavenly religion.

Amen!

Way to go! "Passion translation" ...... should be renamed "Eisegesis Conjuration". That's just what people need, another bandaid verse from the "Adding to scripture" book of spells. None of its biblical. Funny how when you read the bible, you unmistakably recognize that Jesus intentionally offended a lot of people, he wasn't softening his words but rather cutting to the heart. He warns people not to believe those peddling deception..

You mean the faith - once and for all delivered to the saints.

The passion translation hahahahah oh my goodness I love this 😂😂😂😂

I prefer - 2 Timothy 4. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables

Stop trying to suit the Word of God to shoehorn into it what you want to hear

ke6gwf If we examine the Word of God we will find that there is a difference between confronting personal sin within your congregation and confronting heresy within the body (Matthew 18:15, 1 John 5:16, Titus 1:9, Romans 16:17, 1 Tim.4:6). We are called to judge the body accordingly and to hold each other accountable, this is how the church was designed to operate and function and this is exactly how she has been kept blemish free throughout the ages since the time of the apostles (1 Corinthians 5:12, Galatians 2:11). Jesus Himself said that when we judge we must judge with a right judgement (John 7:24). Truly, any comment that is addressing a teaching that isn’t aligned with scripture is not a matter of spiritual opposition but rather a working of the Holy Spirit to correct doctrine (John 16:13). As Christians, we need a proper understanding of biblical hermeneutics.

@@bradfordgiannetto4965 you are assuming that you are being guided by the Holy Spirit, and that your version of doctrine is the correct one. Very handy assumption if you are wanting to be able to tell others that they are wrong, without having to bother with the Biblical guidance to search the Scriptures together and pray with your brethren to find the truth together. Right judgment means that the Holy Spirit is directing a person, and that can be recognized by whether the person is acting and speaking like Jesus, or like the Scribes and Lawyers. I really don't see Jesus judging hearts via KZfaq comments in any case.

ke6gwf Still no proof texts or scriptural references for any of your assertions. You have totally disregarded any attempts of conversing with me by and through the Word of God here within this thread. It also seems that you have failed to realize that this entire discussion began with you addressing Lisa King’s comment. She simply tried to convey her own convictions and promote healthy discussion based upon the Word of God, I know because she is my wife. Anyways, if you have anything else to say may it please be gracious and edifying (meaning scriptural).

@@bradfordgiannetto4965, if you are not familiar enough with your Bible to recognize the texts that I am referring to, and I have to give chapter and verse, then I fear that you don't have a clear understanding of the Bible. Jesus often referred to a concept in the Bible without giving the specific reference, because it was as assumed that they knew their Bible well enough to recognize it. Now, I am wondering, isn't it your responsibility to keep your wife from telling men what to do? Shouldn't you be teaching her that women should not be teaching men, that they should be silent? I mean, that's the standard the 2 of you are applying to this women who was invited to share her thoughts, and is not setting church doctrine or telling anyone what to do or believe. Interesting...

@@mr.bsbasicenglish2044 Jesus said that we would be able to recognize His followers by their love for each other, and here you are calling me wicked and vile when you don't even know me? This really is the sounding very good for you.

God says very little that Bethel hears.

Renewal Creations That’s the first voice she said.

@@burgerderper7140 she said your own voice, I am still saying that there are other voices....the voices of the world and those in the world.

Renewal Creations Yes I understand what your saying.

@@RenewalCreations I don't get your comment. The voices she's talking about are ones own voice or those coming from actual beings in the spirit realm or from the Holy Spirit. By "voices of the world", do you mean alive flesh and blood people? Replaying conversations in your head aren't the same thing as voices coming from the spirit world. Maybe I misunderstood? Pride and wickedness aren't an independent personage. They are part of an individual. How do they have a voice? Are you saying that an individual has multiple voices within oneself? Like that Tom and Jerry cartoon where Tom has a devil on one shoulder and an angel on the other? Is there scripture for that?