@@johnnolan2356 Astros fan much?

David Evans no im not, it’s called standing up against all cheating, including the decades of steroid abuse that manipulated and hurt the entire game, not just pretending the Astros are somehow the worst pinnacle of cheating.

@@johnnolan2356 Well John I'm an admittedly biased Yankee fan and hate the Astros because they have destroyed the Yankees over the past few years- just dominated them. Now of course this adds fuel to the fire. Maybe everyone is doing it but I don't think so. I think the Astros were cocky brazen and somewhere along the line established a group think led by a few who either never had a moral compass or whose moral compass fell by the wayside. I think until proven otherwise the level of cheating that Astros practice (not putting in past tense yet) is the absolute pinnacle, as you so aptly put it. I hope I am correct. Steroid abuse was not a team-wide system as far as I know and it never resulted in batters systematically taking the element of surprise away from pitchers through illegal means.

David Evans Hey David, I agree with many of the things you’ve said. I would add these notes: think about Barry bonds and his 750 HR’s. Think about how many games he affected by cheating. Think about all the guys that organized on teams across the league cheating for years with performance enhancing drugs. And don’t take this as a hit to your Yankees, its not meant to be at all: but in 2017 Beltran worked for the Astros and we all know what happened. But in 2018 Beltran worked for the Yankees and Alex Cora (in a now famous video after losing to the Yankees) said he was the Yankees ‘best acquisition, because I know how he works and he looks for the details.’ From an MLB source online (who is hiding their identity at the moment) Beltran was involved with cheating incidents with the Astros and Yankees, that was what Cora was hinting about in the video because they did it together on the Astros. Both Cora and Beltran were indicted in the report as being mainly responsible for this cheating. Sports illustrated said that ‘as many as 7 other teams could have cheated like this.’ I hope none of that is true and that it ends with the Astros. But my point is this: over the years the mlb has looked the other way when teams had organized steroid use and when there was cheating problems (like the Red Sox Apple watches) up until they boiled over. I think the MLB needs to take responsibility for their lack of regard in all of this too because their lack of action allows this behavior. A lot of this is preventable if they would act earlier and with more regard.

Rich is hinting at this. Astros fan so I'll get that out of the way. I don't like cheating one iota because it tarnishes Houston's ONLY WS title. But, if as a player, Manager, GM you believe everyone else is using the exact same scheme because of known facts and other observations, do you really feel like you're cheating, or do you feel you're leveling the playing field? MLB will use the Astros and Red Sox as an example to hopefully stop this practice. I don't believe MLB wants a league-wide investigation because it may reveal more damaging info and bring about more bad publicity. If in this day and age of real time electronics you can't control the illegal usage because it's just too hard to police, allow ALL teams to openly use this technology. The playing field would be even and all teams have the exact same chance to figure out signs. And if you don't allow this, take the #### monitors out and ban ALL electronic anything within a clubhouse. What did we see in the last WS, iPads/Pros? Why in the world would MLB lift their ban on smart phones and tablets when paranoia of espionage is so rampant, and probably more widespread than people realize? As Jesse Dougherty reported shortly after this scandal first appeared, "But while the Astros have drawn most of the scrutiny, and not without reason, many within the industry believe electronic sign-stealing is a problem throughout the game." "While the Astros sit at the center of this controversy, all of baseball will be watching closely to see how MLB responds. In the digital age, it is fair to speculate every team in the sport has been either a victim or a perpetrator of electronic sign-stealing, or quite possibly both."

Martin Leavitt yep I completely agree, as far as I’m concerned the MLB needs to apologize for their lack of regard with policing all of the teams appropriately. Just like steroids this stuff goes on for years and it only makes the game worse buts it’s only called out once the damage is done and the problems boiling over. They are responsible for the integrity of the game, this is their failure too.

salmanjets718 as a person who enjoyed that Mets season I would like to say nice and wicked burn because Beltran choked that at bat and pissed me off

@@macdaddy66 yea get pissed at the one guy who was clutch for the mets back in 2006...mets are a garbage franchise anyway

@@shannysalcedo3627 .The pitching was great

Arrogance, ego, smugness, amorality, disloyalty.... *yes*. Intelligence? Not so much. Intelligent people evaluate risk very carefully when a multi-billion $$ global industry's reputation is at stake. Understanding this risk and all of its potentialities is what informs smart choices. How could he possibly have believed he wouldn't get caught??? That is moronic.

Richard Richard The same reason that a lot of other teams like the Astros had, they didn’t think people especially their fans would care. And seeing some of the comments they were probably right.

@@coronaflo Truthfully 99% of fans would be ok with their teams doing anything to get a title.

@@hawksfan5 I think that is a super cynical statement and hope, really hope it is inaccurate. Are you one of the 1% Hawks Fan. I think it is disgusting and agree with Eisen whole-heartedly that you watch a game and want it to be "on the up and up" meaning you do not want the team you are rooting for to cheat either.

@@etamommy You are totally wrong. Championships and WINS are everything to fans. It's why we still celebrated our victory over the Eagles despite Wentz getting his brain scrambled. I honestly didn't shed one tear and when he went back to the locker room I went YESSSS!!!!!!!!!

Bannankev Logan Morrison posted some stuff on his Instagram

george holst I cant find it

The Mets caved.

Not anymore, Beltran stepped down

Isaiah Johnson and he told off on the Yankees

@@cole-trickle50 neutral site brainiac bwahahaha.. 😁

The Nationals do

deez knotz hopefully there will be less home run hitting and strike outs...game is boring now. It's just home run strikeout or walk

the MLB has had money and capitalism for a long time

Karafallout 1992 actually the MLB told Astros owner that 7 other teams could be investigated over cheating, and that trey would follow up on every claim they have currently. I’m not defending wrong doing but you have to call it all out and be fair.

I don't think so. I think this is a rationale and excuse that people use to argue for leniency but it is weak-minded and morally bereft. Even if it is true- fantastic that he got caught and maybe it will make others think twice before they instigate team-wide illegal scams to cheat the game.

David Evans I agree, I don’t think it’s ok for some people to say cheating is ok because ‘other people are doing it’. My main concern is that the MLB needs to quell all incentive to cheat and all other forms of cheating now. They’ve made mistakes in the past where they ignored cheating and gave it a slap on the wrist and all it did was hurt the game over sustained periods of years. The MLB needs to take their share of responsibility and stop this and all other potential problems now.

John Nolan there’s more than 7 that’s what they know of.

TheBatugan77 I want to say the field dimensions where short also, like I think center played something like 380ft

For what? Being cheated by the Cheatos and Steal Sox in consecutive playoffs. Get a clue delusional one.

Guess where Carlos Beltran was last year?

Guess what team was accused of wearing electric vibration equipment it wasn't the Yankees dillweed. Go put on your helmet and get back on your short bus.

Sorry but there is no proof that the Yankees cheated only the Steal Sox and the Cheatos.

P m W I’m with you on one thing.. An intentional hit batter is a Take TWO bases penalty. A following hit can score a run. One base. That’s nothing.

THANK YOU!!! why is no one saying this! Baseball needs to adapt to the times!!

How about eliminating the catchers signs ? Why should the pitcher have an advantage over the batter ?

No, Yankees would never cheat. They are Angels. Sweet little innocent angels. Man, they are so ethical it makes me wanna vomit.

@@gavinstutler2469 they aren't innocent but they didn't cheat to this magnitude

Mista Man they were cheated. Point blank.

Venomz they lost game 7 in 2017 at home...

@@SCORPAIN88isme sorry but Houston lit up the Dodgers best pitcher in game 5 at home. Hmm 🤔 like they knew what was coming and had a signal beforehand.

peter miller the Dodgers out scored the Astros in games 3-5 and the Astros beat the dogshit out of Darvish in game 7 on the road.

There may have been individual players who cheated for their personal benefit either so they're stats could be better or their careers could be longer which is definitely wrong. Though to have two whole teams cheat in a manner like this where they use technology to affect the outcome of a game is in a totally different realm of cheating. It is even more disconcerting than even what Pete Rose was accused of doing which was betting on games he managed.

@@petermiller2283 Exactly. 👍👍👍👍