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If that's how vulkan would start evolving I'm pretty sure there could be a sane vulkan abstraction layer developed.

GTK and Qt shouldn't need more than the bare fundamentals - to the extent that they decide to make use of Vulkan acceleration at all, which isn't at all a given. I don't see any changes which would upset the basics being anticipated. As to unanticipated things, i guess we'll cross that bridge when we get there, but consider that a compatibility layer that can be transparently wedged in between is a possibility. Such one layer already exists, general-purpose apps already need to contend with running on MoltenVK, which doesn't actually have nearly as much hardware access as a hardware specific driver. This is how all prior DirectX and OpenGL versions have been supported too, by adding layers of translation - by the time you have to make the next bigger step, you have a lot more CPU power to waste on such compatibility layers, and old software would be less performance critical by then.

Maybe those vendors don't want to invest in the Vulkan "ecosystem" because the vendors are comfy with their own obfuscated ecosystem that's built to confuse rather than clarify its details. To be fair, I would have been more excited for Vulkan if it was a plug and play solution for moving bits from one place to another rather than an entire ecosystem :P

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carroll6 that mean vulkan is good for linux game devloper with unity or unreal engine 4??

As far as I know, unity editor won't be supporting linux due to third party libraries' compatibility and license terms.

"all of the hardware queues"

Game programming today is more of a sandbox game for devs. No surprise there that people are not willing to do more of the ground work themselves.

1 year later: Unity, Unreal, and Source 2 support it as an option, Godot and Cryengine are developing support. People developing new games don't need to do all the groundwork anymore unless they're writing the engine from scratch.

Uh, it's enabled near-native emulation of proprietary graphics APIs such as DirectX, making 99% of games without anticheat run perfectly?