Season 2 has to be the most mysterious season in terms of cut content

When Clem sees Wyatt at carvers camp, he doesn’t know he’s talking to the person who will eventually kill Eddie

So much wasted potential with all those characters. WHY, TELLTALE, WHY?!

OMID THE RUINS

After a recent replay of the season, I think I spotted one more (admittedly very loose) piece of evidence: when Jane shows up to kill the last bandit, she seems to be incredibly shocked and rather out of it until Clementine talks her down. She gives her reasoning as her feeling bad about killing someone who hadn't done anything bad to her, but that felt like a rather flimsy excuse to me. Jane had no qualms about shooting Troy in the dick and letting him get eaten alive by walkers, but she's suddenly squeamish about saving Clementine's life by killing an armed guy actively firing at the group? Something just doesn't really add up here. Presuming that your theory IS true and that the Russians were originally meant to be the 400 Days group, I think in that moment Jane would've had to kill Becca, Shel's little sister. Given Jane's backstory with her own sister, I think her shellshocked reaction after having done it would make a LOT more sense if she had to kill a young girl rather than a grown man.

Not gonna lie, before Amid the Ruins came out and everyone was still theorising what would happen. I always thought the 400 days characters who didn't go with Tavia would've appeared alongside Eddie, whom I believed at the time was going to appear due to his prominent appearance in the slide. When Telltale released the promotional image revealing one of the Russians aiming their pistol at the group, I was confident that it just had to be a member of Eddie's group. In the end, I was extremely disappointed that neither Eddie OR any of the 400 days characters appeared in the episode. It seemed like some really wasted potential.

Eddie replacing Arvo is such a better alternative for the story. Why telltale randomly forced some Russians into the story I will never know, it's always felt out of place. Unfortunately I think this was another consequence for having so many writers. Season 2 episode 4 for me personally is where the momentum died for Clementine's story, this episode is the moment things were just played safe and almost felt random. Season 1 was ambitious, but it was never random from a storytelling perspective. The lost potential is sad. The ending decision for season 2 was clearly building up to be Kenny vs Luke, but during episode 4 is clearly shifted to be Jane vs Kenny. Conflicting ideas, rushed development and poor decisions. We should have actually seen the writing on the wall for telltale when this episode released. I would like some form of expanding on these characters from season 2, a comic wouldn't be a bad idea.

i always thought the amid the ruins card was so creepy

If Edie actually was in the game, and took Arvo’s role and shot Clem, then if none of the story changed for season 3 & 4 and they played out like they did, then in S4 episode 4 during the flashback we would actually be able to get revenge and kill him. What a missed opportunity

Just imagine a Remake for this game... Everything the same except now you see how: -. Clementine learns the basic of surviving (fish traps and fishing, thanks to Pete and Alvin) -. Learns about the importance of a group (Thanks to Luke) -. Learn how a person can go mad if he suffers enough (Kenny in the version he was the antagonist) -. Have to survive an ambush and see how other survivors can die in matter of seconds bc of one awful decision/mistake. -. Have to choose between: An old friend or a new mentor (Kenny vs Luke) TBH S2 had the potential to be even better than S1, but Telltale took the safest path. I loved your theory bc it seems more plausible and I would have liked to see Eddie on S2 rather just to see him in S4 only to die in 2 seconds.

its insane how much more sense that storyline would have made. Not only does it give the 400 days cast more purpose for existing, but it raises the stakes so much more for the ending of 204 as it involves characters we already know.

I recently read on the Walking Dead wiki that Eddie was supposed to appear in S2 as a member of a cult. Maybe they were supposed to go up against Clem’s group. Again, this season has a LOT of scrapped ideas that we may never see.

I suddenly have the ridiculous urge to mod the whole game to remake it with some of its cut content, even though I have no idea how to even mod.

As someone who reached new levels of dissapointment with the way Telltale handled the 400 Days characters, I must admit, I really appreciate you giving them the purpose they should have had in the final game. Sure, it might not have ended with Clem's group and 400 Days group becoming allies, but I appreciate you giving them a reason to be there other than for a small Cameo in the game. Overall, although there's sadly not a whole lot of proof that this might have been Telltale's original plan for Amid The Ruins, I can safely say I would have preferred this version over the one we actually got.

I can see Clem wanting to go home to Atlanta. She's eleven in season 2 - I think people forget that, because she acts more adult than all of the actual adults, but she is a child. And that house was the last place she ever felt safe.

Yes! Even though the gaming series ended, I still LIVE for these discussions and theories. I’ve always wondered about Season 2, there’s a lot of mystery surrounding the development around that time. Keep up the good work!

I reckon that would have been better. Like you said, the russians were boring antagonists for the last two episodes. Would have been way better if the antagonists were Carvers group.

I love how Eddie is an important backbone of this franchise.

To be honest I've always believed that Eddy was *intended* to show up in Amid the Ruins originally, being the character that betrays Carver's group instead of Bonnie, due to being a character that could end up with Carver no matter what the 400 days choices ended up being. I do know that Eddy ended up showing up in season 4 in Clem's flashback (it was confirmed to be him as well) eventually, but I think he was meant to show up in the original drafts of the story Though I will say I see where you're coming from with this theory

It’s been almost a year since the walking dead game series ended. And it’s been 6 years since season 2 came out. And yet we are still finding hidden secrets and theorising about what could’ve been. I love it

If they ever make a walking dead "reanimated" game to redo the story without mistakes and with a more fleshed out story and with optimized graphics as well as remastering it and making choices actually matter, then they better hire you to make sure they don't fuck it up.

Episode 4 I felt was the worst in S2 mainly because of lost potential or didn’t rectify problems from Episode 3. Such as Nick being really a pointless character if survived in episode 2, Sarah possibly being a stronger character but still dies, Arvo who’s ending of episode 4 could have been a great way to show how the confrontation turns out (either the way it did in the game or possibly Arvo having good intentions but his Russian pals not agreeing with him), Rebecca being forced to like instead of having the drastic relationships in S1 with Kenny, or how having Rebecca given water and time to rest meant nothing. The season itself felt like it needed another year before release

I feel like Eddie and Wyatt would ultimetly become prisoners of our group and Kenny would beat them up. They would then escape along with M....sorry Ralph or not. I really wish we got something like: Eddie: "thanks man! I tought this psycho was gonna kill us!" Wyatt: "Couldn't leave you behind" I loved Wyatt Eddie bromance so much....underrated bromance. Kenny and Lee was perfect. Eddie and Wyatt underrated.

Season 2 always felt like the biggest junction for TWD. It always felt like it was going to be their biggest story, as a sequel should be.

With season 2 I knew some members of telltale forums and the actual studio. Now their are actually allege to be 3 different versions of Episode 4. 1. What you stated in this video(something like it was going to happen) 2. What was actually the deal with the Russians originally was that they were members of the Russian Mob who got stranded in America after trying to escape using their contacts in D.C. this was suppose to built up to with Arvo being pressed into their gang. 3 the more expand versions had carvers group and the Russians showing up at the same time. Carver’s original purpose for running the camp with forced labor, hard rules and cold brutality because he was in a conflict with the Russians. The Russians were members of the Russians mob who trafficked medicine and came into conflict with Carver’s group for resources. The idea was that some of the 400 days crew like Wyatt and Vance were going to be their and survival was determine by players actions. The Russians would be their because not only did Jane rob them, they were the nemesis of Carver and his group. Their also was going to be a plot point around Eddie’s connection to the Russians, who were dealing drugs to Eddie in exchange for something(never found out what it was. I speculate weapons, or information on Carver’s camp) Elements of Carver’s group vs the Russians was borrowed for The final season with Lily.

I’d also like to point out that a 2nd 400 Days song plays when Arvo is once again present, and it’s actually the same song that plays when Wyatt or Eddie is going to investigate the guy that they hit. It plays at the end of the episode when Arvo and the Russian mercenaries prepare to ambush the group.

400 Days was a missed opportunity. I replayed it it so many times and was so excited what was going to happen to them. It's incredibly unlikely, but I'd love a follow up story based around the 400 Days Characters. Depending on who came with Tavia, this would follow the characters (excluding Bonnie) after they narrowly escape the horde. It wouldn't need to be long, just at least offer some finality for them.

Maybe Eddie-Arvo was the one "Amid the Ruins." The ruins being the crumbling season 2 group he was likely trying to be part of.

i believe this to make a whole lot of sense, but even if eddie wasnt supposed to be arvo and the 400 days characters werent supposed to be in place of the russians, you have to admit that there HAD to be more relolving around both groups. the russians felt so out of place and random that it kind of feels obvious that more was supposed to happen there, and theres no way that they made the 400 days DLC without intentions for season 2 that go further than one-liner cameos. for example, there must have been more in-depth reasons as to why arvo hated clementine, but nothing was ever really clear and you have dig deep to even figure out why he was so pissed about clem killing his walkerfied sister. translations show he thought she was still alive and crawling towards clem for help but she shot her in the face, hence why he got his revenge on clem by shooting her in the shoulder. i wouldnt be surprised if he was aiming for the head but missed his aim because of the tense situation. it just feels...off to me. its such an unrealistic reason to hate somebody, especially when you consider the fact that his hatred for her becomes such a massive part of the story that there is NO WAY to redeem Arvo in your playthrough, you can't make peace with him, you cant try and settle your differences, nothing. my guess is that eddie WAS meant to be arvo, 400 days characters as russians, and he was a genuine, trusted member of clems group, and he and eddie were trying to calm the situation when the 400 days people were trying to get revenge on clems group for, you know, brutally murdering their leader and destroying their entire home. however, a shot was fired, both sides also began to fire and its a war between both sides before you know it. i imagine Wyatt probably gets injured, bleeds out, but attacks clementine and you have to shoot him dead to save yourself or try to escape but get him killed by a walker or let him turn or something. just two choices which make it so either outcome makes wyatts death clementines fault. eddie would see this and resent clementine because there was never any bad blood between him and wyatt and they were the only two trying to calm people down. it would just be so much more clear and...well, better.

Literally obsessed with your videos. Truly hope you make more discussion videos about season 4 and other stuff. So glad other people are interested in this stuff.

Here's my suggestion. Tavia and the 400 Days characters are pissed off. They destroyed their home and killed their leader and these characters deserved more than cameos. Eddie is scouting for their location. Eddie is taken hostage. So when Tavia and her people corner Clem and the others, Bonnie is trying to make peace with them since they were her friends. But after Rebecca is turned and when either Clem or Kenny shoot her. Bonnie is the first casualty. I’d like to think the rest of episode 5 is about the group being hunted by Tavia’s people and trying to save AJ, however Tavia wants the baby as Carver convinced her that the baby is his. Ultimately it ends with Mike, Jane, Vince, Becca, Shel, Wyatt, Eddie, and Russell dead and only Clem, Kenny, AJ, Luke and Tavia left alive. The final choice is about who you save from Tavia. Kenny or Luke? I think something like this would’ve been better than that loathsome little shitbird and the Kenny vs Jane drama.

I was always confused on the cover for episode 4, because it didn’t fit in with the actual episode

Your theory actually makes sense, 400 days would've actually had more use other than seeing them for 10 seconds in season 2. P.s whatever happened to the wolf amoung us cut content video? It seems to be privated

the guy in the back could be the kidnapper from season 1

In cold blood, I think your idea would make sense wyatt could have been the one to die and become a Walker and Eddie would be saddened and pissed at clem's group for killing his once lost best friend. Edit: oh yeah thanks for making this video, very entertaining and interesting

I think this is a really viable theory. The only piece of evidence I don’t think is that solid is the one about Jane calling Arvo a junkie, since, like... he is holding a bag full of drugs after all, and Jane is naturally suspicious. However, that could also explain why they left it in, if it was a remnant from when Eddie was Arvo- it was inconspicuous enough that they figured nobody would notice. Great video as always!

I was always a bit confused on what the “war paint” imagery means. Like every other episode slide makes sense given the context of that episode, but this episode. I’m guessing it was too late to remake the slide to make more sense.

season 2 is my favorite season because of how mysterious and dark it was originally going to be. like dying alone with aj in hypothermia? that is pretty dark but i am living for it

Yeah, if your theory indeed was the initial plan, they should've done it that way. I really feel like the way the season played out is a total train wreck with lots and LOTS of wasted potential.

This is a really GOOD theory but I am very sad because telltale has wasted some great potential on making this game more interesting. Looking forward in the next video! 😃

Hey InColdBlood, you have no idea how excited I get every time you upload, it's like finally getting to watch that movie you've looked forward to for months. Your videos are just so interesting and I get equally hyped every time, thank you! First of all, I agree so much about the season 2 menu, it is fantastic. The season 2 menu sets up a dark and depressing tone when you open it up and the slides and the cut episode select music perfectly sets up what kind of game this is going to be, or originally was going to be... every other season menu seems to have very little thought and effort put into it but season 2 one is really special. The Amid The Ruins chapter has always seemed very unique and interesting to me. I mean, what does the name even mean? The slides go from making sense to Clementine suddenly putting blood on her face with creepy silhouettes in the background, I remember having chills when I first saw it back in 2014. In Harm's Way seems to take an extremely dark turn towards the end when Carlos gets eaten in front of his daughter, Kenny destroys Carver's skull and everything ends with Jane saying "They're all gonna die Clementine, don't let them pull you down with them." It actually felt like the moment Clementine's group left Carver's camp, they had no idea what they were walking into. However, episode 4 was nothing like it was implied by the previous episode and the title screen, music etc, it just felt too comedic and rushed all of a sudden. Another thing I'm thinking about is, like you said, Telltale did change certain season 2 thumbnails, even after release, yet the episode 5 thumbnail remained almost unchanged after having nothing at all to do with the episode, why do you think that is? There was no town in episode 5, there was not even a mention of a town, it's like the thumbnail is from a completely different season. Also, do you think it's the same town in the episode 5 thumbnail that you see in Amid The Ruins? The town you see in Amid The Ruins looks very small, barely reaching the treetops while the town in the episode 5 thumbnail looks huge, almost like Savannah, what on earth was going on in the development exactly? And about the music, I always found it strange how every episode, especially the first two, had many many original soundtracks that were made for specific scenes while episode 4 basically just reused old season 1 and 400 days music. Could it be that there was original music composed for episode 4 but that it was cut because they didn't fit the new tone? I mean, the original menu soundtracks were cut out for a reason, weren't they? Why else would they reuse so much music in episode 4 specifically? Honestly, I'm not even sure how I would improve this episode if I got the chance, I would just want it completely rewritten from start to finish, there is not much I liked about it. I feel the same way about episode 5 but at least the endings were really well made, and that saved the season for me, or at least made it okay. Still no response from the season 2 writers either... which is kinda bizarre, I saw a few of the old writers talk about off-screen secrets in TWD season 1 here on youtube pretty recently, yet they refuse to say anything at all about the season 2 story? Why? Do they not realize that we are curious about this or do the actually just ignore us on purpose? If so, why?

Honestly the biggest flaw with this game is the fact they went in without knowing the full story they're telling. If they had taken their time and really worked on the plot then it could've been a masterpiece

The more i watch videos like this, the more i start to think all of the previous story builds are just better than the main ones. When i heard about TFS original plot, i was kinda frustrated by what we got, not to say TFS is bad or anything but it could've been so much more than it was. I played every single Walking Dead game and i am still dissapointed Telltale always toned the original stories down in how dark they were originally meant to be, ANF is a really good example of this, it was supposed to be a way more darker toned story that really made the player think but what we got was a predictable new set of characters and a story that was unnecessary to the overall story of Clementine, TFS' final episode was dissapointing because it didn't try to give a message to the player, it just kind of tricked you into thinking the main character was dead, and as well with the ranch, instead of giving Clementine a twist by making here do some messed up stuff they just toned it down alot, they made Clementine way too innocent to be a realistic character. and i just look at these cut content videos and think about how much more special some episodes could've had and how much more meaning the SHOULD have had. (I know this was more a rant than anything else but i just had to put my thoughts on paper)

The Russians make no sense Eddie would have been a great idea tbh

Season 2 would have been better if It was on the Original Script and more darker but It felt so rushed.

It is so weird how no one from Telltale ever explain the issues of S2 and the weirdness of 400 Days cast that didn’t have a proper ending beside Bonnie. And I supposed Eddie 10 seconds cameo too..

Ughhh the fact that eddie came back for one second in the final season just to be killed by clem , telltale just WHY🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Thank you for shining light on this the image of Clem putting blood on their face was so baffling and out of place compared to the episode but I like the idea of the 400 days crew ambushing Clem's group.

I'm glad Eddie at least got a confirmed ending in the S4E4 flashback...Sadly it doesn't end well for Eddie

I think you're absolutely spot on!! I think the reason they removed the characters was because them characters was liked by people and they didn't want to upset the fans

The character in the back of Clementine that can’t seen looks like a mix between Lee, but the character looks like the stranger from season 1

I’m sad that we didn’t see Eddie in season 2 but at least he was in TFS for a few seconds

It really makes sense. Telltale loves to play with our emotions. (And that's both a curse and a blessing...) Their power to make us feel is also their main product. And yes, I know, plot is important too. But we can forgive little inconcistences if they can make us feel something towards these fictional characters, right? That's why I believe there's at least one point where your 'last' theory is right. Making people choose between two groups... is a brilliant idea. Something that Telltale would definitely do. Maybe there was even supposed to a big 'war' between these groups? That'd be great. Great video, thank you for pointing out these details. Keep up with good work! ❤️

I remember writing a comment on your TFS ending theory video (I saw you showed my comment in this video). I remember thinking it was absolutely ridiculous because how would she ever return, later on I realized you were right and that I was just kinda being ignorant. I didn’t want to believe it, anyway I wanted to say that I respect the amount of research you do on these kinds of videos and that it would be cool if you did this kinda stuff on let’s say The Last Of Us or something, I’d surely watch that. Edit: I just wanted to note that I really enjoy your type of content and that you do a really good job at doing these analysis type of videos.

Your videos give me such joy when I watch them, they always remind me why discovering cut content for TT games is such a thrilling adventure :) Keep up the good work!

Your explanation is pretty good. It makes the 400 days more better and more interesting. It also made it more reasonable why the dlc should be there, it makes want to buy the dlc and learn about their backstory. For the final game they made the 400 days characters useless and uninteresting characters. They also made them seem like random carver goons.

I could listen to you talk about these theories forever, there's barely any 400 days related discussion out here and how it plays into season 2. You could do like, a timeline of where all the 400 days characters ended up, starting with the elderly characters from Season 1, maybe go over which order the 400 days episodes actually take place, etc. I know these games are old, but I feel like there's so much stuff I don't know. Does Russell ever elect to join Tavia by himself or is it exclusive to Tavia's dialogue choices? What was the deal with Roman being dead? Etc. But yeah, these games are overflowing with interesting cut content and even just subtle stories/character moments in the background. Legitimately would watch you recap the main plot of each season, with explanations about certain character motivations and different outcomes, like Jolene's history with the St. John's based on what little information we get, or the entire colony at Crawford. There's so much environmental storytelling and there's so much to miss on just one playthrough.

I would have never thought of this It makes a lot sense now that you think about it so great job! Although one thing that kinda bugs me is that when Eddie in TFS during Clem's flashback, which we know takes place after ANF, is alive and with completely different people. I say this because Eddie is modeled after one of the developers at Telltale and they wanted to "kill his likeness" in that scene, which means that if they were planning on using Eddie beforehand then they probably didn't expand on it that much and probably didn't even decide if Eddie would die or not in the end. The fact that he's alive and killed off though in TFS is a bit of an enigma itself though to me even if the answer is just "he's based on someone here and he wanted his likeness to be killed off". Either way nice video dude! Can't wait for more!

Arvo/Eddie having Eddie's gun even if he didn't have it in 400 days might not actually be a plot hole since there are unused animations of Arvo having a knife instead

The whole idea of Clementine going back home to Atlanta, makes sense to me *in this idea*. If season 4 went a different route (depending on choices from season 2) there should've been an option to go to Florida and find Kenny. If you had let Kenny live at the end of season 2 and entered Wellington, Kenny's status is unknown/ambiguous but the best option we could've assumed is that he would've went to Florida to get on a boat, it's all he ever talked about and the only plan he really ever had, it's even mentioned if you refuse to enter Wellington and go with Kenny (which would result in his death via the car crash) that's where you were heading. Now that could've/should've been a potential premise for season 4, the whole idea of it would be to head to Florida for a chance to settle down and "find a home" and possibly look for Kenny although we don't know his status. This could use this sort of make the final season a full circle nostolgia trip for Clementine as she goes back to Atlanta, finds her house and possibly drive or get to Macon and she may encounter the drug store or motel. I don't know, it doesn't really work all together but an interesting proposal nonetheless.

I remember going back and forth in the menu when I was younger, I miss those days

This theory is better than amid the ruins itself.

This would make the story much more interesting if this made it to the final game.

I'm really enjoying the content, and I'm really excited about the upcoming videos you've got planned. Can't wait for the next one!

I think the writers never had a draft of the whole story of Season 2 and just made stuff up as they went on from episode to episode. Why? Because of the beginning of Episode 5. Episode 4 ended with point-blank shooting, Episode 5 begins with the protagonists suddenly being behind cover, pretty much destroying any suspense that Ep4's final scene created. It's like the writers had absolutely no idea how to believably make the team survive getting shot at from like 10 meters and just said "fuck it, just teleport them to safety".

Why didn’t Telltale just hire you as a writer. Fuck, that sounds so much better than what we got. (Which, to be fair, isn’t a difficult thing to achieve, but still.)

I wish they did go back to clementine's house

my favorite episode ever, and the episode preview was amazing. never forgot about it, half a decade later.

This makes so much sence since we had a whole extra chapter about the 400 days charter

I'm really glad that you made this video. It's been years since season 2 came out and I still ponder about how differently the story could have been if they hadn't changed it

Okay so I really like the theory presented here, but there's one thing that bugs me. The Clem's group vs 400 Days group showdown would indeed be way better than what we got, but how would that work in the extreme scenario of only Bonnie joining Tavia at the end of 400 Days? It only makes sense when Wyatt is involved, but his presence at Howe's is dependent on our choice in the DLC.

I really appreciate your in depth analysis. Keep up the great work.

Man I cant believe I'm watching all these videos now I remember after watching season 4 of the series I just hopped off of telltales content and I haven't been back until now. I feel that same happiness when I was like 11 hearing the announcement that TWD was getting a season 2. I'm super excited to binge all these cut content videos!

Your version does make more sense and since those who played 400 days are at least a little more attached to them (because we know their backgrounds) it would have been a really intense moment. We had Bonnie and Eddie in the group and Bonnie sucked ass but also Clam and Luke who we cared for. The other group had Vince and Shel in the with them. After all those years I am still sad that the 400 days characters were literally pissed away. Eddie made a reappearance in S4 where he was killed by Clem but that was it. A shame... they were all so interesting characters (even bonnie because was so unlikable)

I honestly agree, Keep up the good work, one of the few youtubers I actually look forward to watching!

So glad for this upload, and thanks for the genuinely great work, keep it up! :)

You have earned a new fan dude. Keep up the great content. I love how much details you put in your work 👍

Your videos are the last bastion of great TWD content. It's only been a year since it all concluded but it feels like a lifetime.

I absolutely love your content! Please always keep making this amazing content

Amazing video as always! This theory make's a lot of sense and I am kinda sad that they didn't use Eddie in the end. People don't like 400 days cause they think it is useless and it doesn't really give the story much. If Eddie was more involved in this game maybe 400 days would have felt a little better experience than what it was. And still it was very interesting that they used Eddie in season 4. Why Eddie? Why did they use him but not the cast that was playable in 400 days? I dunno but if your theory is correct that the 400 days people were actually in that shooting scene instead of Russians maybe they changed the characters cause 400 days didn't do well? Honestly I don't know how well that DLC made but maybe that might be the reason why they didn't use Eddie and the 400 days group more. Thx for the video :)

I've been waiting for a video of yours! always worth the wait ^^

I agree 100%. After I first completed Amid the Ruins I had the same theory.

This video came Outta nowhere but I’m damn happy to see it 😂 keep the great job up bro👍

Nice theory man. I *wish* it played out like that in the game.

Awesome video once again, love your theory’s!

I'm surprised that you didnt mention Eddys appearance in season 4 and how the car Clementine drives in season 4 is also the car from 400 days. Btw how did Season 4 have more flipping relevance to the first games dlc then season 2.

I would have loved this! Such as shame so much was changed and 400 days was less important.

I cant express how much i like your videos.

I thought I was the only one that found the diagram and that eerie music of episode 4 very intriguing. Is like if Clementine enter the shadow realm or something.

I herd this quote "don't wait for the storm to pass learn to dance in the rain" it reminds me of when they walked through the walkers

Great video as always, I love how much thought you put into your videos! It is really sad how season 2 ended up. If the story had turned out the way it does in your theory, it would have been really interesting and had a great payoff. I’m still so confused about why they changed so much of the story to stray away from 400 days. It’s baffling how their original version of the story seems to be way better than what we have now. We could’ve gotten something much better, but... we didn’t. :(

months had passed after my first comment, and I still believe it makes sense. Also after a recent of replaying seasons 1-2, I’m going to try and give my thoughts of the Cut/Altered content in season 2, while possibly having some information from 1. Here we go. 5:32 I can think of three reasons why the hats have been removed from both Luke and Kenny. One; being a dioramas more specifically in this is dark. So both having a hat will make it weird. Two; If both Kenny and Luke I’d say we’re both wearing their hats, people back then would speculating who they are. One will be easily be Luke (if Luke’s hat wasn’t cut) but the other would be Kenny. Mostly likely cause of clementines line. “I thought you were dead.” And if Luke’s hat was cut, it mostly likely still means it’s Kenny cause of that line. Even if Kenny had is hat while Luke’s didn’t have his hat on. Three: imagine this. episode 2 hasn’t released yet, so looking through the dioramas of the upcoming episodes could may give you an idea of sorts for what’s to come. So on the developers side, they know Kenny is coming back, but can’t present him on episode 3s diorama cause it will mostly likely give it away. They want you to speculate who it is. So they might have used Vince as a sort placeholder. Also I wasn’t around back then as I was young. Also when did they change Vince’s silhouette to Kenny? So maybe a placeholder? 7:38 I do somewhat agree as this diorama represents an older version of season twos story. So Eddie is there cause he was planned to appear in the episode. But at some point the episode plot was changed, and Eddie wasn’t needed for some reason. Mostly likely cause of the 400 days characters being replaced by the Russians. So Arvo replaced him for a better narrative I’m assuming. Though really it still could have been Eddie and the Russians could still show up at the end and demand their supplies, and the cliffhanger begins. without Arvo it still would have made sense. I don’t know what the developers were thinking on their end. 11:48 probably cause it still made sense. I dont taken any drugs or medicine or even knowing the comparison of both being labeled as “drugs” Arvo having medicine or “drugs” still makes sense for that line. Also I’m assuming Arvo has drugs. It still could be a “relic” but didn’t needed to be changed cause it still made sense. 14:08 didn’t the developers say no ending is canon. It’s your story, and your choices. As for episode three tracking the choice of Eddie being left behind, could be a leftover of code for Wyatt mentioning being left behind by Eddie. At least I think, and also I know nothing about coding. Just a poor theory. 19:03 this is good. A good altercation between two parties you have played. But really only a few people would have witnessed it in their first play through. Cause In 400 days, it’s your decisions that make up their decision to go to howes. If only Russel and Vince were there and no Wyatt, it would have been less interesting. Or really only Bonnie have went, and possibly the Russians could have taken their place. Coding every line and every scenario for this ending would be exhausting for telltale. Episode 3 would have been the only episode with so many ending, and so many coding. I could ramble on and on about this ending, but I kept it short. 22:28 I think they were forced to go full steam ahead on the Russian proposal. Cause of episode threes planned ending. Or should I say hundreds. 23:17 probably cause it hurts your brain to think of the many alternatives, scenes and cut content they had press out, and come up with a good story. Also they have to build upon the previous seasons ending and its choices so it pairs up nicely with season 2. Why is mostly likely why season 3s protagonist and story was changed. At least in my opinion.

15:07 What if the game keeps track of the person who left the car, resulting in Eddie having a different gun or weapon if Wyatt is the one who left the car with the gun?

The plot where the 400 days cast tracks down Clem's group makes more sense because Clem and her group basically destroyed their home and thus they have a legit reason to go after them. I’d like to think that the 400 days cast would join the group solely because of Eddie and Wyatt knowing each other that’s a story arch I’d love to have seen.

Heya, been watching your videos for a while and this is still one of my favorites, and I just wanna say your voice is like, so relaxing! You have a really nice tone and flow of speech that’s really nice to listen to, I just wanted to tell you that haha

Man, hearing all of this has got my blood boiling again. Nice video, man. Looking forward to the next one.

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22:19 That would only make sense if you're able to get them all to go with Tavia in the 400 Days DLC