Restoring Native Fisheries to Yellowstone A day on Yellowstone lake managing Lake Trout populations. An interview with Dave Hallac, former Chief Scientist of Yellowstone...
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@Lure-Benson7 ай бұрын
Then open commercial fishing for lake Trout. I was a Pacific NW and an Alaskan fishing guide, and I have boats I would do this if a commercial fishing was allowed.
@nathanclark46747 ай бұрын
I live in NH, where introduction of lake trout to Lake Sunapee almost a century ago extirpated an entire indigenous population of variant arctic char unique to Lake Sunapee. They were so abundant that in the fall when they spawned, entire gravel shoal sections of the lake would be orange-yellow with their vibrant spawning colors. The introduction of aggressive non-native lake trout wiped out the local char population in a matter of decades, and interbreeding took care of the rest through genetic dilution. The strain is extinct, thanks to man's ill-conceived interference.
@jeffhays19686 ай бұрын
Bucket Biology----Dopes put White perch literally everywhere, pike everywhere. They put white perch in Mooshead Lake, and sadly one of the people busted was a licensed maine guide. You can't stop these idiots, a car, a bucket, and a fishing rod can ruin a lake.
@Paulpoission6 ай бұрын
Sunapee trout are not extinct, yet
@nathanclark46746 ай бұрын
They are in Lake Sunapee. You can still fish for Maine Blueback char in a few lakes in Maine, which is genetically the same fish, but none are left in their namesake lake in NH@@Paulpoission
@Paulpoission6 ай бұрын
@@nathanclark4674 I know, thus they aren’t extinct. I grew up there
@KenS12677 ай бұрын
I have spent a lot of my life involved in the effort to control the sea lamprey in the Great Lakes in order to save the lake trout. The irony that this species is wreaking havoc so nearby is not lost on me.
@bpdp3797 ай бұрын
If you want to have your head spin even more, read up on the mismanagement of Flathead Lake.
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
Thanks for that work
@peteshallcross7877 ай бұрын
I'm from WI, but love the west and have heard stories about that . Where is the best resource to find info?@@bpdp379
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
Duh not how it works.What knowledge do you possess that they wouldn't be worse for the cutthroats? @@comment8767
@KenS12677 ай бұрын
@@comment8767 I'm pretty sure they'd eat the native trout too.
@jimlahey39197 ай бұрын
I live in Erie Pa and love the spring lake trout season. Catching those giants less than a mile off shore makes for incredible days in the boat. There are hardly any other boats out after them. We troll in circles around North East, catching dozens of huge lakers and usually don’t even see another boat. Everyone keeps their boats dry until the walleye season but I always launch before April to bridge the gap between ice season and smallie season. We truly have it all in Erie. World class walleye, perch and smallmouth. Great ice fishing. Steelhead and lakers. It’s a 12 month fishermen’s paradise. A lot of people don’t even bother with the lakers which is insane to me. I have a 29’ stripper seaswirl, but you don’t need anything like that to get on the lake trout. A 16’ with a 9.9 will get you out there. But like I said, lake trout fishermen are few and far between, despite there being thousands of them just a few hundred yards from shore
@gradyb32587 ай бұрын
Hi! I love fishing for lakers here in Michigan. I jig for them! It’s my favorite type of fishing. Lake Erie is great for lakers too? Can I give you my email address? I’d love to talk lakers !
@AlanZablocki6 ай бұрын
all that is great, but Lake trout don't belong in Yellowstone Lake!
@TruthDragon.7 ай бұрын
I hope Yellowstone Lake has no limit on the number of Lake Trout that can be kept. One would think that given the amount of fishing pressure most lakes in the west are under, that removing the limit on Lake Trout would go a long way to help eliminate them from the lake, or at least reduce their numbers.
@sc100ott7 ай бұрын
My understanding is that there is no limit on lake trout in Yellowstone Lake. On the contrary, it is actually illegal to release any lake trout you do catch. But this is in a National Park, nobody actually lives on the lake, and it’s not like there are marinas full of appropriately rigged boats with downriggers, lead core lines, sonar, and all the apparatus required to effectively fish for lake trout (they tend to live and spawn in deeper water, away from shore). There’s pretty much zero fishing pressure on the lake trout.
@markw9996 ай бұрын
My Dad went with his buddy a couple of times in the years after he retired in September. You MUST keep the Lake Trout. He would catch 5-10/hr when the bite was heavy.
@TruthAboutHeaven7 ай бұрын
Very informative. thanks!
@FJX2000_Productions7 ай бұрын
Great video, the Yellowstone Lake restoration efforts are one of my favorite subjects to learn about and study. Such an interesting but difficult challenge. Hope the cutthroat continue to rebound and that the lake trout are able to be controlled.
@markmendenhall73487 ай бұрын
Worked for the NPS in the park 5 summers in the early 70’s and fished the upper Yellowstone, Cub Creek, Clear Creek, and Pelican Creek often. It is beyond criminal that someone in the 80’s decided to illegally transplant lakers in Yellowstone Lake destroying a spectacular native fishery that had survived 10’s of thousands of years. At its peak the Yellowstone cutthroat population was over 2 million fish in the lake and the drainages feeding it. In less than 20 years the population had fallen to a couple hundred thousand due to laker predation. Beyond sad.
@markmendenhall73487 ай бұрын
If you really want to help, donate to the Greater Yellowstone Coalition in Bozeman.
@markmendenhall73487 ай бұрын
In Shoshone Lake decades ago, highly doubtful into Yellowstone Lake. Years ago the Park Service engaged in a plan to eliminate all non native fish (brown and rainbow trout, etc), so an intentional transplant of non native char into Yellowstone Lake makes no sense.
@jimtaylor56407 ай бұрын
I also worked for NPS in Yellowstone several years in the early 70's. Opening day of fishing season at Buffalo Ford in mid-July just downstream of the lake was epic fishing for cutthroats. Curse the stupid 'bucket biologist' that caused this horrific damage to a spectacular wildlife environment.
@huckfin11007 ай бұрын
Blame a politician
@billt61167 ай бұрын
@@markmendenhall7348I'd rather throw a cut plug lure in the lake, Catch the lakers, And eat them. They don't come back when you eat them!... not exactly...
@danielcarnes32147 ай бұрын
Awesome video, really highlights how one small change in an ecosystem can have far reaching consequences. The truth is, we will be spending a lot of time and resources trying to clean up poor decisions that were made in the past.
@kennethsmith88446 ай бұрын
In the early ‘70s myself and two friends canoed across Yellowstone lake up the Shoshone River into Shoshone Lake. There we caught some Lake trout. The lake was so clear you could see them 50 feet deep when they were hooked. We estimated each trout to be 5 pounds
@peteharper36147 ай бұрын
Growing up in the early '70s we used to fish Yellowstone every summer. At that time Lake Trout, Brown and Rainbows were very common in Lake Shoshone and Lake Lewis. We used to target Lake Trout when trolling. Cutthroat trout were less common. I was a bit surprised by his 1994 intro date. Lake Trout were obviously there 20 years earlier.
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
Yes, lake trout were introduced by fisheries managers into Lewis and Shoshone Lakes more than a century ago. They subsequently expanded downstream in the Lewis River drainage. Managers did not introduce them to Yellowstone Lake, ignorant anglers did.
@peteharper36147 ай бұрын
@@jimr4084 Don't you think it is a bit disingenuous to blame anglers for introducing a species to the park when the Fisheries had introduced them decades earlier?
@markthomas37307 ай бұрын
myopic, ignorant AND STUPID Manages were ABSOLUTELY RESPONSIBLE@@jimr4084 . or perhaps the term flooding and lake to lake transfer were alien words to them ??
@timtool32296 ай бұрын
My bet is the cutthroat has huge gigantic spawning beds and the lake trout that have been there for 40 years never took off due to spawning bed competition and smaller lake trout size. Once the cutthroats died off due to winter kill and other factors the lake trout took over mire spawning beds and just really took off. I don't think this was simply illegal introduction 10-20 years ago causing it all
@jimr40846 ай бұрын
Cutthroat spawn in tributary streams--NOT in the lake beds! There is no evidence of winter kill--please try to educate yourself before making uninformed comments.@@timtool3229
@dagger2816 ай бұрын
I did a lot of fishing on Yellowstone Lake in the late 90's. Unfortunately I did see quite a decline year by year... Hopefully we can bring my favorite fish back!
@WoodsNorth7 ай бұрын
Whether it’s state biologists or recreational anglers doing it, I can’t think of one time where a non native fish introduction on a large scale helped the ecosystem in any way. I live in Vermont and back in the late 80’s and early 90’s Vermont Fish & Game introduced alewives into Lake Champlain as a forage for landlocked salmon and lake trout. What they didn’t realize at the time is that when landlocked salmon eat alewives it produces an enzyme in their liver than causes infertility. As a result, along with other environmental factors, land locked salmon fishing on Lake Champlain has been on a steady decline for decades.
@nkapiariesjeffbeezos7966 ай бұрын
Salmon in the Great Lakes ?
@devinwillis77876 ай бұрын
Goby in the st Lawrence and Lake Ontario has made bass fishing awesome. Bass fishing in Champlain is better than it ever has been as well
@richpaydirt6 ай бұрын
I live in Idaho and not only lake trout but brown trout, walleye and especially pike have become menacing problems that are costing taxpayers millions to deal with. Some of them were even stocked by a well meaning game and fish department when fish management was in its infancy. The predominant fish in the big panhandle lakes were bull trout (char), cutthroat and Kokanee. In many lakes and rivers these fish were totally or nearly wiped out. Restocking along with bounties and no limits on the predator fish are helping. Game and fish has also been operating an almost commercial size netting program on the bigger lakes for years. Still, the fisheries will never fully recover and the war will never end.
@RoryLynott6 ай бұрын
Smallmouth as well. They are an incredible game fish........yet not in Idaho.
@offgridselfteliant6 ай бұрын
Humans only do things because they could. The problem is they never stop to think if they should!
@garymeyer42436 ай бұрын
Invasive species of all types can be an ecosystems worst enemy, Burmese pythons in the everglades is well known but one of the worst ecological disasters of the 20th century happened when a tree lover in Oregon brought over Chinese chestnut trees that also introduced the chestnut blight to north america, the American Chestnut had no immunity. American Chestnuts were not only the dominate canopy tree in the eastern and upper midwestern US until this point, also the major source of food for wildlife from deer to bears to squirrels, more than oaks and preferred by wildlife. in a matter of 30 years from the 1920s to the early '40s, the chestnuts were destroyed by the blight. Chestnuts were also a major foodsource especially in Appalachia adn their loss in the middle of the great depression was devestating. Who has not heard of Bing Crosbys 'Chestnuts roasting on an open fire'. Chestnuts in the store now if you can find them are almost all Chinese chestnuts. They American Chestnut is now considered extinct w just a few small pockets here and there left. Restroration efforts are ongoing using blight resistant strains of these surviving trees, I have a small grove on my property here in the northeast that so far has shown no blight, fingers crossed my half dozen trees can grow to maturity and I can use those chestnuts to plant more trees to leave a legacy.
@ME-pb2gf7 ай бұрын
So there's no catch and keep limit on Lakers of any size or time of year right?
@TheNewMediaoftheDawn7 ай бұрын
Some really nice lakers there! Hopefully the cutts can rebound…🎉
@joesutherland2256 ай бұрын
They're spawning somewhere usually in a concentrated area at a certain time so I would suggest a trawler on the spawning beds during spawning season.did the job on n Atlantic cod right so your welcome lol
@jimr40846 ай бұрын
Spawning grounds have been targeted for more than 25 yrs.
@joesutherland2256 ай бұрын
@@jimr4084 talking about before they get onto actual grounds like the channels leading to the spawning creeks and rivers as they migrate in to spawning grounds .they inadvertently wiped out n cod in newfoundland with that style of commercial fishing .
@jimr40846 ай бұрын
Lake trout do not spawn in tributaries. They spawn on rocky shoals within the lake. The first spawning concentration was located in the West Thumb basin around Carrington Island back in the 90's. A common strategy was to use gill nets and surround spawning beds.@@joesutherland225
@dartfrogger7 ай бұрын
Is there any idea as to how the Lake trout were introduced? Could it be possible that Lake Trout were there all along, and the population simply had a major resurgence due to increased cutthroat trout numbers?
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
no, they were brought in by anglers who were not knowledgable but had a selfish idea. They arent native to that system whatsoever. We dont see things as they are, we see them as we are.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
No, they were definitely introduced. There was no increase in cutthroat numbers, either.
@TheNewMediaoftheDawn7 ай бұрын
Lakers aren’t native in that area is my understanding…
@tbone2319827 ай бұрын
Bucket biologists
@6235dude7 ай бұрын
So sad, mankind destroying the planet in so many ways. But why were the killed Lakers just tossed back into the lake? Here in Minnesota, where lake trout occur naturally in many lakes, smoked Lakers are only about a third cheaper than smoked salmon.
@Casitascrawlers7 ай бұрын
Such a bummer especially for fishermen I once saw a man made basin filled with trout that people could feed I couldn’t believe the size of these trout.
@zeph64396 ай бұрын
The same unfortunate progression or regression is to be seen in many African countries, where the introduction of (for us) exotic alien invader species such as carp (Asian and common), largemouth and smallmouth bass and trout have gradually decimated the populations of indigenous species such as tilapia and barbs. Over the last few decades, other factors have placed pressure on the native fishes, such as water pollution, as vital related infrastructure is not maintained properly; and illegal and indiscriminate netting by poachers due to economic pressures. Paradoxically, despite the fact that the aliens are destroying biodiversity, and native fishes are becoming ever scarcer, most sport anglers practice catch and release instead of removing them from the waters. The admirable B.A.S.S ethos, which works on native fishes in America and Canada, doesn't pan out very well in regions of the world where the same fish are problem children.
@billt61167 ай бұрын
I was there in the 90s. It might have helped if you let fisherman know that they could catch lake trout and keep them for no fee, Instead of charging them for a fishing permit, To Only fish flies on streams. Send the fishing pressure to the lake trout, And take it off the cuts throats.
@TruthDragon.7 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts. We fisherman would have a hay day doing our part to fix this problem.
@billt61167 ай бұрын
@@TruthDragon. They always have to find a way to cash in! It's not bad enough that they still take the taxes that funded the parks, But defund the parks,and expect you to pay for them twice. That's misappropriation of federal tax funds! They should be in prison!
@tracycastleberry90406 ай бұрын
Need to keep up the gill netting. Saturate areas with nets where sonar shows fish congregate. There is no one time fix, gill netting needs to be an ongoing process through out the year every year at least when it's not iced over. Either hire a crew that works for the parks or contract it out on a permanent basis. What are the spawning habits of lake trout? Do they spawn in open water or in tributaries? While there will be some bycatch of the non targeted species net mesh size can be regulated to let the smaller cut throats swim through. We have our fare share of exotics here in Louisiana both flora and fauna, most brought in as ornamental or to establish new industries to the detriment of our native species. This will never get rid of the lake trout it will take out a lot of the larger brood fish
@gravydog82957 ай бұрын
nice.
@garyhockensmith24716 ай бұрын
In the mid 90’s I went there and caught a few lake trout and didn’t know they were not supposed to be there of course I removed them.
@dinglenutzog6 ай бұрын
Cajun fried lake trout is excellent 👌
@Jeff-uf3cv6 ай бұрын
Long live the trout
@garyhawkesford22536 ай бұрын
Why are the lake trout dumped overboard after being dispatched?? Cant they be sold the same way as Crayfish??
@MultiPetercool6 ай бұрын
So how about an unlimited take for Lake Trout?
@wolverinex42437 ай бұрын
But people still go missing at Yellowstone?
@russellbowen32387 ай бұрын
This makes me want to cry. Back in the 70s we went camping every summer. Fishing was incredible. The limit was 3 but they had to under 16 inches. You couldn't put a line in the water without catching a fish. You could fish all day and not catch 3 under 16.
@anthonymorales8427 ай бұрын
I wonder if Patricia Bigelow is related to one of the authors of the fisheiies bible(Bigelow and Schroeder) of the western Atlantic Species.
@ronmarchis26236 ай бұрын
Unlimited catch on Lake Trout be allowed. Only sport (always release for Ctthroats would be a good plan.
@brimstone2606 ай бұрын
Great film apart from showing the still breathing lake trout whilst it is being gutted.
@ryankilpatrick73376 ай бұрын
My man Lin Manuel Miranda explaining these issues like a G
@keos93887 ай бұрын
Guaranteed that there has been a ton of fatalities of cutts due to by catch in those stupid nets. Gill net dont care nice release lady
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
those stupid nets are saving the cuts. The biologists use wider mesh that targets the larger lake trout.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
As it literally shows cutthroats caught in the nets LOL.
@bannedagain14837 ай бұрын
These are super smart gill nets that only get the gills of lake trout. With another couple hundred million dollars and another 80-100 years the lakers may be reduced another 5% in population.
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
possibly some bycatch- compare that to total extinction Jesus no one in America has a brain any more@@Honks34
@rickpetersen416 ай бұрын
23 years ago I could walk on the backs of those cutthroats across creeks in Yellowstone and not get my feet wet.
@calcrappie85077 ай бұрын
Consider introduction of ciscoes or smelt for the lake trout.
@98midge7 ай бұрын
The proper answer to dealing with invasive species is certainly not to add another invasive species lol
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
How would this solve the problem? It could only enhance the population and have an increasing negative affect on the native species.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
It would most likely take predation pressure off of the cutthroats. Cisco and smelt are both deep, pelagic baitfish that are in the same area of the water column that lake trout are in. If they have them to eat, they hypothetically wouldn’t need to come shallow to prey on cutthroat.
@hammer300rum86 ай бұрын
We have the same issue in canada on spray lakes. It was a cutty creek then they damed it and make a lake and put lakers in it. U can still catch a cutty and they are huge but the lakers have taken over. U can catch more than 100 lakers in a matter of hours
@user-sk4do6tv3z7 ай бұрын
If you have lake trout in there that place is done. The cutthroat are just food for them good luck.
@Jay-dr9co7 ай бұрын
how were the lake trout "introduced".
@thisisyellowstone7 ай бұрын
As far as anyone knows, they were unofficially dumped into the Lake sometime before the 1990s and they quickly took over as a dominant species.
@Jay-dr9co7 ай бұрын
Thank You just wondering if it had been natural or Man made. Great Documentary @@thisisyellowstone
@GarthWatkins-th3jt7 ай бұрын
What is a "lake" trout? There's rainbow, cut throat, brown, dolly vardon, steelhead, etc. I didn't recognize the lake trout in the video. Where are they native to? I can find the info, I was hoping it would be mentioned here in the video. I'll check in the description before I tap out.@@thisisyellowstone
@dwgwnr19697 ай бұрын
Its a mackinaw @GarthWatkins-th3jt
@GarthWatkins-th3jt7 ай бұрын
@@dwgwnr1969 yes, thank you for your reply I appreciate it!
@staceylpittman5327 ай бұрын
I bet he misses the mountains.
@JJ-gm4ck6 ай бұрын
guido Guido GUIDO!
@JS-mh9uu6 ай бұрын
So mandate a no throwback policy on lake trout and ban the fishing of cut throat trout.
@jamesathendune90267 ай бұрын
I respect what I am learning but I do question how Lake Trout was planted into Yellowstone. The fish is a deep water species and it would be difficult to transport. I 11:43 suspect that the species has always been there and the lake environment has changed. I think we need to learn more about how the forage base beyond Cutthroat Trout has changed in Yellowstone.
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
you suspect incorrectly. Look at the range maps, they've been introduced widely.
@UpNorthOutWest7 ай бұрын
Yeah they're quite easy to transport, they're a hardy fish. How do you think they got to the dozens of other western states where they're non native? Telekinesis? Lol They have not always been there. There is evidence of this and many more examples across the west. I will trust the biologists and scientists who have studied this for decades, and not some uneducated speculation in a youtube comment section.
@thems_the_brakes7 ай бұрын
It would not be very hard to transport. They are in plenty of nearby drainages and can survive in shallow water just fine. Of course they prefer deep water, but you can catch them in rivers given the right conditions.
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
They were transported over from Lewis Lake where they are easy to catch in shallow water during spawning season. They were not native to any waters in Yellowstone.
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
@@jimr4084 But people have hunches! /s
@kdomster91417 ай бұрын
Why there Trout are being thrown out overboard? Can these be sold to local restaurants and pubs for fish and chips ?
@UpNorthOutWest7 ай бұрын
The first one being thrown back was the cutthroat they're trying to save. The large amount of fish dumped over in the bucket were the lake trout (mackinaw) and are very high in toxins, mercury, etc. And from my opinion and many others dont taste good. You dont want to feed those to people.
@melorchardiii58997 ай бұрын
No. Not a great fish for that.
@kdomster91417 ай бұрын
@@melorchardiii5899 what makes it bad to eat? Fish and chips would not come out right in a Pub ?
@UpNorthOutWest7 ай бұрын
@@kdomster9141 they are high in toxins and mercury as i said above.
@kdomster91417 ай бұрын
@@UpNorthOutWest This Lake is in Wilderness of National Park , where to hell is this source of pollution for these fish coming from???
@stephenarmstrong73547 ай бұрын
No keep for cutthroat and bounty for lake trout.
@g.b.macfuddson21437 ай бұрын
Absolutely this. The contractors and gill netting are a complete waste of time once they are no longer producing population data and the program should transition to an incentivized harvest (bounty) system like what has been used in the Colorado River system by the NPS to reduce brown trout populations and in Idaho by their Fish and Game regarding pikeminnows. That said, the talking heads at Yellowstone are probably as reluctant to cede any authority or power as ever and the Secretary will probably have to force the issue if it comes to that.
@malcolm25876 ай бұрын
Drop the limit on lake trout
@roynichols52127 ай бұрын
They need also to find out where those lakers are spawning.
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
Yes, that is already known and spawning areas were identified 25 yrs ago.
@donalddakota806924 күн бұрын
Just like the damn walleye that have been bucket dumped in parts of Montana.
@davidc.99337 ай бұрын
Just figure out what they polluted Cayuga lake with that prevents Lake Trout from successfully spawning. Done.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
They've tried that.
@jimkeats8917 ай бұрын
HOW did lake trout get into the lake???
@thems_the_brakes7 ай бұрын
the same way hundreds of other invasives have spread across the US. Nothing new.
@bannedagain14837 ай бұрын
They swam in from Jackson lake, or they were planted
@harlandeke7 ай бұрын
@@bannedagain1483there is no access from Jackson Lake. The Snake and Yellowstone rivers are on opposite sides of the Continental Divide.
@bannedagain14837 ай бұрын
@harlandeke there is a study on it, the path by water over the divide is a gentle slope with no waterfalls, lake trout fry and juveniles can easily make the journey. The removal is futile, they can only suppress the population. They will never eradicate, or even come close.
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
They were illegally transplanted from nearby waters by ignorant anglers.
@hettro-cv60827 ай бұрын
I wonder how many Lake trout the gill netter are able to catch a day?
@davids79437 ай бұрын
The gill netting operation now is really something to behold, far larger than what this older interview shows...
@hettro-cv60827 ай бұрын
Thanks I hope they can eliminate the lakers! @@davids7943
@kusterflattailАй бұрын
It only takes a little more time to put the eggs in a compression cylinder and stop the splitting of the chromosome. Hence you have an "it"!
@matthewschreiber24217 ай бұрын
Don't eagles also eat lake trout?
@TheNewMediaoftheDawn7 ай бұрын
Maybe when spawning, but otherwise lakers are too deep.
@dion89626 ай бұрын
Cant put the genie back in the bottle. The Faustian bargain has been struck, ling before we were born.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
Mechanical removal is a complete waste of time and money. Over 4 million fish removed and it's done essentially nothing.
@bannedagain14837 ай бұрын
Its a jobs program for fisheries biologists.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
Yup. Job security at its finest.
@dwindi04065 ай бұрын
Can you spearfish lake trout?
@thisisyellowstone5 ай бұрын
That's a good question. You would definitely need a wetsuit! The Park would have the answer...
@Saps_bigbaits7 ай бұрын
Imagine if pike were in there damn they would get huge
@daveboise_22227 ай бұрын
Makes me sick to my stomach. Tragic.
@seayak7 ай бұрын
Hmmm, I will have to check my sources, but I remember stories of large Lahontan lake trout being caught decades ago in Yellowstone Lake
@Honks347 ай бұрын
There have never been Lahontans in Yellowstone. "Lahontan Lake Trout" aren't a thing. There are Lahontan Cutthroats, but those have never been in Yellowstone.
@seayak7 ай бұрын
@@Honks34 Erk, yes. Clearly a cognitive glitch on that one. Think I confused those with the outsized cutthroats from Pyramid lake. Will check my sources on the lake trout in Yellowstone lake. Might have been a story by Charlie waterman or Russel Chatham
@thems_the_brakes7 ай бұрын
yes, definitely check your sources, lol.
@RoryLynott6 ай бұрын
You're right about large cutthroat. Huge Yellowstone Cutts in there back in the day. The Lahontans are in Pyramid and Walker Lakes, NV.
@seayak6 ай бұрын
@@RoryLynott Hi Rory: Great, thanks. That fits with the story I remember reading. Was this from personal experience, or alternatively, what is your source on this?
@stonefly696 ай бұрын
Remember, the NPS was responsible for introducing lake trout to Yellowstone.
@pre-flightpressurewasherdi71686 ай бұрын
The catch and kill method is a waste of useful protein, I get they should be removed but catch and keep…and feed some folks who need it , this is a case where the government is already spending money on the environment and could also help people make ends meet cheaper than just food stamps , etc .
@lyn28396 ай бұрын
Yes it is ridiculous! New York state does something similar, New York has a fish hatchery in Altmar. In the fall as the salmon spawn they enter the hatchery and the eggs an milt are taken from the salmon. But instead of using the fish they are simply composted.
@peteshallcross7877 ай бұрын
Great video but not great news. Just another example of a few selfish men/women screwing things up for the rest of us. Fyi, Lake trout feed near the surface in the spring. I can't see how anything will change in Yellowstone Lake, the damage is done. In addition, is there a reason the caught lake trout are dumped back in the lake rather than being harvested? Just wondering.
@woody912a6 ай бұрын
why throw those fish back in the lake? Food for somebody
@differentfins6 ай бұрын
Weird thinking of lake trout as a destructive species. Just wait until smallmouth bass get in there. They have destroyed 1000s of lakes here in NW Ontario. The native species, especially walleye, have been decimated due to the bass. Smallmouth can live just about anywhere. I know of lakes as far north as 55 degrees latitude that have invasive bass in them!
@carlericpickett5977 ай бұрын
Transfer lake trout to lake Mich. I know it would be very expensive but worth it.
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
Lake trout from Lewis Lake have been used in broodstock for restoring the Great Lakes for over 30 yrs.
@JA-gx4hb6 ай бұрын
It's already packed with Lakers. Lots of salmon fisherman want less of them. One state recently increased daily limit from 3 to 5.
@timothynechville83267 ай бұрын
And yet Lake trout are all but gone in the great lakes. Might be endangered?
@TheNewMediaoftheDawn7 ай бұрын
No lots of good populations left. Maybe Erie has less, but not the others.
@carymatthews31997 ай бұрын
So very sad hoping that this will be a lesson learned and that more information on the hazards of doing something like this wouldn't happen again sad
@MF225257 ай бұрын
Anyone else think this seems extremely futile and a waste of taxpayer money? I do care about the decline of native trout, it’s extremely sad and is especially prevalent where I’m from in Nova Scotia. But I can’t see this working out.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
Yes it definitely is. Waste of millions of dollars every year.
@edbrown69856 ай бұрын
Lake trout are part of nature.why transplant them anywhere? Yellowstone trout are very pretty.my parents bought me Franklin mint trophy trout and the yellowstone was one of them.sister in law smashed them.
@nileswright89156 ай бұрын
what?!? people being people??? say it is not true!!! :(
@CoolWhipp-hy1qu6 ай бұрын
Funny how lakers are dying in the Great Lakes where they are supposed to be and taking over where they are not
@baronvongrimm47807 ай бұрын
Need to interfere, that's taboo? Fishing derbies would be good. Electric boat motor only. Fish hatchery would be good. These lake trout are deep, boat nets just skim the upper profile. This will never decrease the lake trout.
@spearsinspines7 ай бұрын
The biologists are targeting the lake trout where they are, duh. Hence the recovery that has occurred to a point.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
You can set gill nets as deep as you want. Electric motors would solve absolutely nothing. That would do the opposite.
@veroman0077 ай бұрын
blow hard
@tbone2319827 ай бұрын
The gill nets are set at a deeper level. Cutthroats tend to live in the shallower areas, so the nets are targeting the lake trout. It's close to 100% of the fish caught in the nets are Lake trout.
@thems_the_brakes7 ай бұрын
Use some of those $35 entry fees for a bounty and they’ll be gone in no time. Me and my boys will come through.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
That won't solve anything.
@thems_the_brakes7 ай бұрын
@@Honks34 It actually has worked wonders on many other rivers and lakes. Will you eradicate them? Certainly not, but you will greatly suppress their population. Finding ongoing funds for these programs is usually the difficulty.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
Their netting will do far better work. Plus anglers don't catch the juvenile lake trout.
@nativeaf99337 ай бұрын
They “park” invited the lake trout when they put in paved roads, paved roads are the primary travel paths for the dysfunctional… there was once plans to build an amusement park on the shores… and don’t forget the zoo that once inhabited “dot island” and the EC waters ship wreck, the capitalistic man has been exploiting these waters since there arrival …. The best way to save the” park”is foot access only!!!
@UpNorthOutWest7 ай бұрын
Capitalism is also whats funding the programs to save these fish. There is non native/invasive fish spread out all over America. There is high remote lakes that also have introduced populations of lake trout and Eastern Brook trout (another non native species to the west) that have never had road access or development. Your thought process is severely flawed.
@harlandeke7 ай бұрын
Screw you...I love Yellowstone..and I have just as much right to it as any of you elitist pricks.
@JohnJames.7 ай бұрын
Lake up a forest road, now has a trail to it , also non native bass and perch. Have yet to catch a trout. And human shit just behind the beach, when there’s an outhouse at the top
@JamesThomas-pj2lx6 ай бұрын
climates change, shift and return...... stop this madness.
@mxbass10367 ай бұрын
Time to stock muskies, they will eat the lake trout.
@jimr40846 ай бұрын
So where is there evidence that muskies eat lake trout? What would keep them from also eating cutthroat? Try to use some logic!
@mxbass10366 ай бұрын
@jimr4084 it was a joke regard
@tylerfish62067 ай бұрын
They will be gone in ten years
@Honks347 ай бұрын
Lakers? They aren’t going anywhere.
@lindaandreasen97356 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, as long as there are idiotic individuals who can hold a fishing pole, this type of thing will continue. Too bad there is not an intelligence test required before issuing a fishing license.
@rafabonati77577 ай бұрын
From viewing just the first few minutes of this video, it is quite clear that humans are the primary reason for the dramatic decline in the cutthroat trout population. The filming of the fish catches by anglers in the olden days demonstrates how these fish were over harvested. Perhaps the state didn’t have a catch limit, or the anglers just didn’t follow the regulations. Either way, that’s a human problem. Then we have some individuals who illegally or irresponsibly introduced lake trout to the lake. Again, a human problem. When it comes to respecting the environment, so many people suck.
@operatorspectre74287 ай бұрын
Cause and effect lol
@harlandeke7 ай бұрын
Nope
@davidzwicker56627 ай бұрын
Your hindsight is brilliant. Your negativity, not so nice. Your suggestions to help nonexistent. But thanks for your reply.
@brettoram54346 ай бұрын
Plant some perch crappie and walleye! What an awesome place that could be !!
@paulvanreenen69867 ай бұрын
Climate changeologist.
@petersmith69746 ай бұрын
I feel the same way about England with Africans and Pakistanis invaders
@silvertip8k2787 ай бұрын
You're called conservationists. Yet you just threw overboard large quantity of lake trout as garbage...lots of food! If this was in this video...how many more times has this act been done? And we are supposed to trust your judgement...
@jimr40847 ай бұрын
Natural resources aren't all about human exploitation! The fish are returned to the lake to return the nutrients to the lake ecosystem.
@4stringmanagmaildcom7 ай бұрын
In 1970 I was 14. My uncle had a 22' boat and we had three families do a campout on the lake at a remote campsite. The fishing was fantastic. He took the boy cousins out, there were six of us for a few hours and we caught about 30 fish. Then he took an equal number of girl cousins out and they out fished us. The deal was the group that caught the least fish had to clean them all. As the oldest boy I was the lead and I remember cleaning upwards of 50 fish. I forget the limit but with the number of people we had fishing we were near the limit, but under. I relate all of this as first hand evidence of how plentiful the Cuthroat were. I believe the minimum size was 14". To catch these fish all we had to do was troll Mepps spinners. It's a crying shame some idiot introduced this non native predatory species into the lake. Shame on them.
@Mr4twitch7 ай бұрын
Fish eat other fish
@erico58657 ай бұрын
Had to get that plug in for "climate change" -his job depends on playing his part for the WEF.
@davidguelette70367 ай бұрын
Although climate change tends to be divisive nobody except fossil fuel lobbyists and religious creationists intelligently dispute it.
@operatorspectre74287 ай бұрын
Lol right
@Kevin-qy4du7 ай бұрын
So just how has the climate changed in Yellowstone, and how did that change affect the cutthroat? I'm starting to hate these people. They are so cavalier and matter of fact, yet have no data. Bla bla bla, climate change.
@Honks347 ай бұрын
Probably because its real and has had a noticeable impact on fish.
@thems_the_brakes7 ай бұрын
Anyone who has been hanging in the rockies knows that the climate is changing. You'd be much better off arguing the reasons for climate change. Atleast there's some ambiguity there you can win an occasional argument on. But anyone with a brain knows the climate is changing, glaciers are receding, and average temps are increasing.