What did you think of The Watcher on Netflix? Comment your thoughts below!

The craziest thing the Netflix show did was have a family buy a 3.3 million dollar home and they only owned 1 Toyota Prius to get around in.

I saw a news report last week that said since the Netflix series came out, fans of the show have been driving to the house to get a look at it and the neighbors complained to police about the sudden surge of traffic in their block so police cordoned off the house with crime scene tape and having cops periodically stop by to shoo people away. Kind of funny how the house has tons of “Watchers” now. 😂

The house in the show was MUCH nicer than the actual house.

The John Graff character is based on John List who, on Nov. 9, 1971, killed his entire family in identical fashion within their Westfield abode. List similarly lost his job, and gradually bled out his mother's $200,000 savings before killing her and his wife in the house. He also ambushed two of his children when they returned home from school, and it's rumored that he made himself lunch between the killings, after which he reportedly traveled to his oldest son's soccer game and shot him approximately 10 times later that night.

Maybe the true watcher was the friends we made along the way

They added so much fictional stuff into it so why not give us a fictional ending

One of things I never understood was if this family were being watched, why didn't they put security cameras around the house, by the mail and pointing it on the street to find out who's the culprit?? That would be the first thing I would do if I end up receiving those creepy letters.

As far as the nearby resident relating to video games, he didn’t have a screen name of The Watcher, but a detective or officer who questioned him, recalled “to his memory” that he played a game called The Watcher. However this sounds like it could have been “The Witcher” video game, and the officers memory could have misconstrued this.

It was intriguing at first but it just went off the rails with one red herring after another. If this was a tighter 4 episodes it might have been better. It became really annoying that every character the couple encountered turned out to be vindictive, rotten assholes... private detective lady notwithstanding

The real case of the watcher would easily have made a great movie. IMO there is no need for all the stuff they add in, the tunnels, Andrew or the neighbors killing themselves. I just wish theywould have stuck with the story because it is very interesting in its own rights

I think the Watcher as told on Netflix is a perfect allegory for what is going on today. One group desperately wishing to hold on to a romanticised past (the preservation society) against anyone who wants change or modernisation (those who move into the house). Huge distrust and dislike on either side, manifesting in utter paranoia. The point is that this made everyone in the show watchers at one point or another.

just finished the series, damn what a rollercoaster of emotions, really good series

I was waiting for John Graff to be caught by Robert, felt like they left out a big part of that conversation.

I watched the first few episodes, and a part of me kept wishing that the owners would deal with the crisis by tossing these letters straight into the garbage can, where they belonged.

All those cameras installed all around the house, and still couldn't catch anyone. Ridiculous! 😄

Has everyone ruled out maybe he or she was never watching from the outside but using something to watch on the inside, the real family installed cameras on the outside, hired a PI but maybe they shouldn’t be looking for someone but something. My guess is there could be hidden cameras/mics scattered throughout the house, giving the stalker the chance to watch from somewhere else.. you can’t catch someone if they are watching from a distance. And let’s be honest this was 2014 wasn’t that long ago, it wouldn’t be far fetched if the person live completely in a different area or state, broke in the house at one point put hidden cameras in, and just sat at home like a creep watching them, and it wouldn’t have been difficult to just go to the post office to mail a letter

I want to know who killed Sprinkles!!!! He didn’t deserve that, we need closure😢

Let’s be honest, there was no “watcher”. The Netflix version is filled with dramatization and it was without a doubt an inside job. The real family still lives in the same town of Westfield. You’d think if they had been soooo traumatized they would have hauled ass far from that place.

Just started watching this series I consider it intriguing I don’t think it’s so possible to act according to the true life story, I give them their flowers !❤

Thanks for this. It was a pleasant listen.

It's an inside job, they were trying to scare the new owner so they would sell for a lower price and vice versa.

it started out great but i felt as the series went on the watcher became less and less threatening. who would really be afraid of any of the neighbours?

The owner of the house should rent it out to fans of the show .... i bet many ppl will want to experience living there and see if they can meet the watcher

In the show the previous owner John who murdered his family was based on another crime story. And it happened exactly like that just not related do watcher case but real true crime

I dont even really CARE what the True story is ,, they did a FANTASTIC JOB with this .. and they left it so OPEN ENDED , that there has to be More, a LOT more .. I hope the Writers are at it , because I cant wait .. the Tunnels alone you could make several episodes about.. and we never even found out who was sleeping in that room ??? this is an amazing story ,and will leave you on the edge of your Seat .. it starts out kind of stupid, but it builds Nicely, and takes a couple of Nice Twists and Turns . the Investigator was awesome ..and then the plot twist there .. its not even that important WHO the Watcher is .. its the Story behind if which is so Fascinating .. Nice Job, truly nice Suspense , Mystery .

It was good to see Netflix afforded Mia Farrow the rare opportunity to play herself.

I’m so thankful that Andrew wasn’t real because I felt so bad for him😭

Didn’t know it was a true story 😱!! Love it !!

I just finished to watch the series on Netflix and read some info about real story. You did a great job with this video comparing the dramatized and real elements. Thumbs up 👍

It was John & the tree hugger lady. They’re the first ones seen in the tunnels. They started that house club & then added the others in.

Between this and Dahmer I'm really getting tired of Netflix heavily dramatizing things and straight up lying when it's not necessary. No coincidence that the same writer worked on both.

Just finished watching it. I thought it was great. Maybe a bit over the top but good. The ending makes you think the husband and wife were the watchers. But no one really knows unless the watcher actually admits it.

Did anyone catch how they wrote in the true story of John List? He killed his entire family and was on the run for years until featured on Americas Most Wanted. He wore the dark framed glasses in real life I caught that right away.

The faces of Mia Farrow and Stiffler's Mom scared me the most 😱

i stopped by the house on boulevard the other night. about 20 min from where i live. nobody around. felt pretty creepy.

funny how the Dad is always dumb helpless or totally unlikable in every Netflix show or movie.

The Watcher was the young former student turned bride of the older teacher 🤯

Thank you. Glad I watched the Netflix show first. I like when shows are Loosely based on reality. Matter of fact, we live near the Dahmer Family since 1960... Although we're a few years older, the 5 or 6 films are somewhat similar. The only factual events come from Jeff and his father Lionel.. The area is gorgeous, but in the few yrs after the trial, there were scores of ambulance chasers driving by .... Sad to this day..

The other difference is the filming locations. The show did not film in the bougie neighborhood of Westfield NJ. Instead, they filmed in Rye, New York, a suburb in Westchester County, New York

Now why did they add all this extra just to stretch out episodes?? And the series ending was trash. SMH

Great video. I thought I would share something with you and the rest of the viewers and get some other opinions. You are probably familiar with the case of family Annihilator John list. He killed his entire family in 1971 in Westfield New Jersey and disappeared. In 1989 an updated age sculpture was shown on America's Most Wanted and he was captured. He had been living for years as Robert Clark and nobody had a clue about his past. The reason I bring this up is because I've been seeing stuff all over the internet saying that the John graft character is based upon John list. Yes.. the town is the same.. the murdered the family thing is the same. However in The Watcher John graft is still out and on the loose. John list passed away in 2008 in a hospital not far from my house. So my opinion is.. yeah there are similarities to John list and John graft.. however there are so many other differences.. can we really say the character was based upon John list? Maybe we should be saying John list inspired the character. Yes the crime happened in Westfield New Jersey.. but other than that and the fact of the killing of the family.. I don't see other similarities. Honestly.. if you think about it.. can we even say without a doubt that John graft killed his family? Yes they allude to it several times.. but then Theodora claim to have made him up.. yet he's still supposedly attends the meeting at the end of The Watcher. What is everyone's thoughts on the character?

this show bites off more than it can chew.

This show had everything to be really good. But just wasn’t

I first knew about the watcher case from Ryan and Shane

were not gonna talk about the tunnels??

I cant believe nobody bought like 2 huge dogs - there would be no one in the house anymore. burn the letters and live xD

If the series would have ended with only 6 episodes that would be quite good rather than including mysterious unexpected episode 7

they made it seem like Westfield is like Beverly Hills - ie. full of the idle rich. It's not. Economically, it's got a fairly decent spread

I about died when Nora put in her security password as 1234

I didn’t watch the trailer and only saw the title and thought “I sure wish they’d make a show about that family who got letters at the Watcher house!” I’m a little slow.

There’s a good true crime podcast about this. I think it’s Sword and Scale or Casefile.

Can’t beat a gooey/fudgey brownie. 💜💜💜💜💜

Does anyone know if these letters continued when the new family bought the house in 2019?

just a side note on the last episode when the new family was in the house ( well outside) was john / bill/william, inside there house again watching them from upstairs?

What about the son shooting the old couple to claim insurance money?

Camera pointed at mailbox after first letter could have helped.

Reminds me of ground hog day in that it repeats.

A 1.3 million dollar house in 2014 would be 3 million today, so no, they got the price right

Also importantly, were there any Cruel Deaths of Family Pets by the Watcher? Or was it just in the Netflix show for dramatic effect.

I think genetic genealogy will break this case wide open since there was a dna on the envelope.

I thought the "Netflex" version was bunch of bullsit, have that stuff didn't happen to that family! It came off as a bad soap opera, Netfles has some nerve calling that a true story

Nothing about the tunnels under the house or John Graff?

You want to now something funny I lived in the neighbourhood when it happened I was 5 years old i barley remember my dad seeing it in the news and got scared so we moved to a different town it was so creepy

Arent anyone going to speak about that John were up in the window at 657 for the new family when they were moving in? He were clearly still keep using his secret tunnel, he is living with the crazy lady and Jasper and goes under the tunnel to update them for all the new construction which is to be done. Rhen they speak about it in their club. Then they togheter make the watcher lettere togheter. as we remember John also had the watcher, and as said in the letters «it is now my turn» i belive the watcher goes on from person to person. John probably had an old one many years ago, and now he haa been for years and to everyone while hiding in the tunnel and at Jasper. And now Dean is obsessed and he wil like to join in also beeing the watcher.

I started watching this show and enjoyed it for several episodes. To me, a lot of it is not cohesive. Loan officer giving out personal info., side things like that. I decided when I saw 7 seasons total, this story line could not support it. I think it would have made a better movie. Appreciate your take.

I thought that The Watcher was very good. I didn’t understand why they didn’t put a spy type camera device inside the mailbox ( for example like for cars ) since the letters were hand delivered. OR get a Post Office Box and cease getting mail at the house entirely . I would like to think that I would have moved into the house and had some beefy security. Any information on the new owners if they received have any letters from The Watcher. I still feel like we are missing something about this family. I think That one of them has an enemy or some other vendetta with some one in the past.. a former mistress is what I’m thinking actually

It's so rare these days to watch a good show without all the political Bias, this was a great watch that really brought the audience in to it's Story. Well done to the creator's.

Hello Brainpilot, u didn't mention the tunnel. Was that real or just made up by Netflix?

My thought on the open ending is that the dad just could let go, and his wife followed him. I guess I’m just too naive

what about seeing someone in the tunnels in their basement?

I grew up in a funeral home. I would take the watcher house any day of the week and twice on Sunday. This house wouldn’t scare me whatsoever or any mail I may get. (I live by this home and I feel nothing at all around it) Just sayin Now they are in Matawan trying to play with the “blue house” to keep it from being knocked down.

Heard about this story months ago from mr ballen

Everything was good but the ending!!!

So nobody thought to put a camera on the mailbox through this entire ordeal? They could afford a Million dollar House but couldn't afford ONE camera?

It's kinda frustrating that the case wasn't solved. Felt just like the dad.

Volume is very low

So watch or skip?

LOL, thanks for the Spoiler @Mr.Ballen 😂

I'm no Sherlock Holmes, but I might have given that secret cave in the basement another peak othe than the initial discovery. I might have even just walked in there and seen where it came out. Probably a crazy idea

In the real life case, the family actually never moved into the house... that tells you all about the plot of this dull sci-fi thriller miniseries.

The best Netflix series since "Ozark."

Were the tunnels beneath the hous true or nah?

I had no idea my 8 year old was writing for Netflix.

Made me feel like I was the watcher 🤣

I think it’s derek and maria braddus that wrote the letters to themselves

What about the tunnel under the home? Was that fact or fiction?

In reality nothing happened to them but some silly letters, should've just ignored them and went on with their day. Show wasnt that good, but a ok pass time. The only real problem was the kid sending the video to his work.

I want to know if people broke into the house and killed pets and stuff

I just really wanna know if the secret passageways are real!!!!!!

And no one thought to install a camera in a tree facing the mailbox with another camera (with 360° view) on the roof facing the tree and the mailbox? or to install a high fence with spikes, with a hedge? That way no one would have seen the house. With mirror stickers on the windows like that the interior of a house can no longer be seen at all?

It would be too much like right to put a camera in the mail box

*But did the ferret get curbstomped?*

So was the lady real that was on the video bedroom camera with the husband ?

Was there really tunnels in the house? Did people get into the house through the tunnels. And was there a guy in the 90s who lived there and killed his family? And do we know anything about the current residents? And if they are getting letters?

This show was so damn bad. The main guy was good in his role, and obviously Naomi Watts killed it as per usual. But godamn, this was a dumb show

they were all the watchers , watching the house

What about Andrew saying his kid saw a blood cult and Mo drank his blood?

Just fucking install cameras in the street (petition the state to do it)

I think I would have liked the Netflix show if I didn't already know the story.... Cause the real story is so much better and the show just didn't feel like it got there. And there was too many loop holes because of the changes. Like the ages of the kids mattered.