Taylor Swift keeps reusing the same tired, simple chords over and over, more or less writing variations of the same song - and this video exposes her weakness as a songwriter.
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@cyriloboco30833 ай бұрын
My mom was listening to the new taylor album while i was in the other room. I literally thought that it was one very very long song and not the whole album. My mom then tells me "all her songs sound the same"😂
@mrexecutive3 ай бұрын
Your mom is hilarious 😂
@olivesarehealthy2042Ай бұрын
Yeah, I've been a taylor fan for a long time and gods this is EXACTLY how i see the new album. Also our mums are the exact same lmao
@hinduismwithpremananddasbhagatАй бұрын
I agree. I listened to a few of her albums and that was my feeling. It was just a long song, nothing jumped out at me, all sorta forgettable.
@chloelovestay4449 күн бұрын
right? i was dancing to "how did it end?" thinking it was "so high school" how crazy 🤣
@victorkr41189 күн бұрын
I also felt that and I give up from her songs
@cinnamonnotmylastname76633 ай бұрын
Swifties will say that this is actually a rabbit hole and that we're not intelligent enough to understand her overuse of the same chord progression
@StMary-yx2bt3 ай бұрын
It’s always we don’t get or aren’t smart enough 😅
@CreatorsChild3 ай бұрын
Swifties are stupid who cares what they'd say
@jcrrangers30052 ай бұрын
Only k dot fans are allowed to say that tbh his music complicated af
@deg0226652 ай бұрын
Or they say that you are old!!
@turtleseat2 ай бұрын
yea fr, yesterday i listened to exile (ft. bon iver, indie folk band) cause i thought it was shake it off
@hugging_a_namujoon7 ай бұрын
That explains why most of her songs sound the same to me.
@evacody12495 ай бұрын
I mean, there is a reason she stopped playing country and only made to folk albums. One Carrie Underwood is better and inspired more young women in country music. No true folk music fan is going to buy her two so-called folk albums.
@cloudyxsxies5834 ай бұрын
her songs sound the same to you because you're a basic hater who hasn't even listened to 10 Taylor swift songs
@Balghae4 ай бұрын
7 songs out 243? damn
@bigfella9574 ай бұрын
They literally are the same, usually the same chords just moved up the neck of the guitar using a capo.
@PercypotterTaylorsVersion4 ай бұрын
@@Balghaethat’s what I was gonna say!😄
@vincentdaniels37707 ай бұрын
as a beginner to intermediate at best guitarist this video made me feel like a creative musical genius
@user-ey5xw2nx9s22 күн бұрын
This is the ideal level :D
@user-iv2xz7nw4m18 күн бұрын
same
@chloelovestay4449 күн бұрын
yet she's #1 on the main charts... why would it be?
@OGseoulite3 ай бұрын
This video aged really well after seeing the reception of TTPD
@dorianmartinez5155Ай бұрын
not at all actually ..
@becckyy_Ай бұрын
@@dorianmartinez5155 It did tho...
@SwervyyyyАй бұрын
@@dorianmartinez5155that album was trash so it absolutely did 😭😭
@dorianmartinez5155Ай бұрын
@@Swervyyyy only to you buddy
@SwervyyyyАй бұрын
@@dorianmartinez5155 so many people hate Taylor lol cause she mid af. Her music is so generic
@RatFacedJasper Жыл бұрын
Today I learnt that I do not possess a musical ear. The comparisons just sounded of noise to me.
@chunli61976 ай бұрын
bro literally,like i think whats offensive is similair melodies,which I did notice with 2 songs: the lucky one and untouchable and i think he knows and lavender haze,thats it.
@print-helloworld-89773 ай бұрын
Are you a musician? This helps. But to each their own, it’s clear Taylor has a certain fan-type (young college girls, high school).
@popanameАй бұрын
Listen to the (I V vi IV) and (I V ii IV) chord progressions, then play a random Taylor Swift song. 1/3 of the time her songs will follow those two chord progressions.
@ishathakor3 ай бұрын
i've actually run into an issue several times where i was playing one of her songs on the piano or guitar (just the chord progression) as accompaniment to practice singing and i've accidentally switched over to a completely different one of her songs without realizing it. that's how similar her songs sound to me. i would get to the end of the song and realize i'd started out playing a completely different song and accidentally switched over and didn't even know it.
@rhondab979211 ай бұрын
I just find it amazing that she and many others attract fans excited by listening to what is essentially the same song garnished with different fluff over and over and over.
@Kalymnah9 ай бұрын
you're lucky to find it amazing. I find it so sad. And the amount of money people pay to listen to this crap is astonishing
@GDCresien8 ай бұрын
@@Kalymnahfr
@orange_turtle34127 ай бұрын
Its not even a matter of opinion really. The majority of her songs use the same chord progression. There is objective music theory to back up the fact that her music is indeed all the same.
@bradjohnson41266 ай бұрын
I don't think the music is even that big of an interest for fans of taylor swift; I think it's more about the personality (or rather, being able to self-insert as the personality of Chief Girl-Boss Taylor Swift)/ the "vibe". I recently came to a realization that most music listeners don't even listen to the music at all; they just listen to the singer and as long as the singer sounds "cool" or sexy they like song.
@largeformatlandscape6 ай бұрын
The majority of van goghs paintings used the same stipply over blown colour, the majority of turners were fuzzy nonsense, etc. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it bad. Working within 'limits' is a creative way of expressing yourself. If you judge her by this, you reveal your own lack of knowledge. @@orange_turtle3412
@santysvocalsАй бұрын
This is not showing taylor's weakness in songwriting, maybe rather shows weakness in her composition skills. Still I think all the songs have different aspects thematically, in production, the vocals, etc. I love her songs, but I understand someone can get tired of her reapated chord progression, but theres no way you can call her a bad musician just for this.
@becckyy_Ай бұрын
You can tho- if Beyonce started doing this y'all would start attacking her but not with Taylor🤦
@sampound335315 күн бұрын
To me I think you can call her a bad musician cus of this, her songs have very little experimentation to them with genre, sound and vocals. I like a musician who can go from a jazz-inspired song with raspy vocals to an acoustic gentle song. Especially with her cult following to not experiment musically is a fault of her music, her lyrics aren’t criticized much in this video I agree but the TTPD I heard some of her worse lyricism yet
@arianadeleon980521 сағат бұрын
@@sampound3353 taylor definitely has songs from different genres and sound, but artists dont have to go through different genres to be good artists, thats absurd! Lately people treat everything as if it came with an expiration date, its like if there was a collective brain rot or something and people cant function without a constant stimulation from a sense of novelty… maybe if you’re fancying some jazz music while listening to taylor swift, you could switch to frank sinatra?? like you can have it all, you can listen to everything and everyone, specially nowadays… you cant expect one artist to fill all your taste quota…
@skyhideaway10 ай бұрын
i really don't get the hype around taylor swift. i'm not a music expert but her lyrics are also so mediocre most of the time, and swifties act as if she is the reincarnation of shakespeare. there are a few good lines that i can think of but overall, her lyricism isn't that great. there are a lot of artists who are really good songwriters and lyricists but don't get half the popularity and praise taylor does.
@lezylol63743 ай бұрын
I was an avid Taylor swift hater a while ago, but her folklore album is beautiful. I think her best lyrically music is the lakes from folklore, seven from folklore, happiness from evermore, would’ve could’ve should’ve from midnights.
@lastmanstanding542321 күн бұрын
easy to explain: step 1: make bad choices step 2: write shitty songs about bad choices you made step 3: other people making bad choices recognize themselves in you step 4: profit
@lordfreerealestate83029 күн бұрын
She has rich parents who bought her way into one of the biggest record labels (which her father also owned in part). That's why she's popular.
@RD-zj6vc Жыл бұрын
She probably has an "if it ain't broke don't try to fix it" mentality.
@myqueen_RegineVelasquez Жыл бұрын
Yup! That's how US-based record labels want it. Because you know.... Money..money...money...
@CrimsonEclipse11 ай бұрын
Just like the patterns of storytelling similar stories over and over again. Just because it's a new relationship doesn't mean much has changed.
@nichobee9 ай бұрын
It's great for making money, but not artistic legacy. She won't leave much artistic legacy
@firebird42698 ай бұрын
@@nichobee She's Taylor Swift, lmao. Of course she will
@nichobee8 ай бұрын
@@firebird4269 'lmao', her cereal box music will leave very little legacy.
@just-so-were-crystal-clear5245 Жыл бұрын
I've never been impressed by Taylor Swift's lyrics, too stream of thought describing what she is seeing, but I guess I know why many of her songs sound the same to me once I go past production.
@GDCresien8 ай бұрын
Same, her best song is probably shake it off
@bkirstie7 ай бұрын
listen to folklore
@badgasaurus42116 ай бұрын
She seems to struggle using imagery and strong metaphors. Her subject matter scope is also incredibly small, tending to write about the same things over and over.
@ultravioletpisces36665 ай бұрын
Ok so you don’t like stream of conscious… that doesn’t mean it’s not good, it means you don’t like it
@googoogaga4905 ай бұрын
@@badgasaurus4211 I can gave you 10 ts song with 10 diff subjects like right now
@blorpxd9 ай бұрын
1:15 the way I knew what the next chord sounded like before he played it is crazy
@gfunkk8 ай бұрын
actually it kind of is crazy but this is how music works on your expectations. you have heard that chord progression thousands of times in your life, along with a few others that are accepted norms (I, IV, V; ii, V, I; I, vi, IV, V; etc). There is nothing wrong with using these progressions and almost every popular song has some variation of one or more of these in them. The trick is using them in creative ways that fool your expectations, which is what delights us about music.
@blorpxd8 ай бұрын
@@gfunkk oh yeah I’ve heard about that kind of stuff since I’m a musician. That’s really funny how Taylor’s music is so predictable and yet so many people love her to death because of it. It confuses me how such generic and obvious music is so popular, especially among girls. I don’t notice Taylor changing the chord progression at interesting times either, I can almost always accurately guess when and how the song is going to change with a lot of her music. Of course I don’t hate Taylor swift myself, but I could never become so close to her music because of this issue. If she changed melody more often and had slightly more interesting chord progression timings I’d definitely like her a lot more.
@gfunkk8 ай бұрын
@@blorpxd what do you expect them to listen to? Mahavishnu orchestra? Schoenberg? It’s popular music, it’s literally been the same chord progressions in over 90% of songs since the 50’s.
@blorpxd8 ай бұрын
@@gfunkk I’ve found other songs to have more unique chord combinations, and those who don’t usually make up for the lack of surprise using a unique rhythm of percussion. However in Taylor’s songs usually I’ve found a lack of changes in percussion or other added effects to make up for the lack of chord change. Even if there is an interesting percussion part or vocals in the background, they’re usually only during the chorus and are repeated the exact same way whenever the chorus is played, still creating a lack of surprise. There’s a reason why Taylor has so much music and it’s because it lacks creativity in the music. The song writing isn’t bad when you listen to just a few of her songs, but once you hear at least 10 you start to realize they’re mostly about how some guy (who’s name is left anonymous) treated her terribly by either cheating on her or ignoring her. Taylor’s music is still very repetitive compared to other artists. Obviously I haven’t listened to all 243 of her songs, but I think I’ve heard enough to say confidently that the most unique thing about Taylor swift is how strong and dedicated her fan base is for such repetitive music.
@isabelguzmanmiranda50255 ай бұрын
@@blorpxd Er... No, sorry, no. The private jet is terrible, musically she's not remotely close to The Beatles (despite her worldwide success is similar), all that is true. But her subject matter goes from children dying of cancer to abortion to murder to revenge, to insecurity, to safety, to anger, to bullying, to getting over anger... and yes, love, the birth of love, the death of love... And that applies to most mainstream music (yeah, I love power metal too, but pop is popular for a reason). There are some very valid criticisms of Taylor Swift, but Taylor Swift sucks because the sky is red with pink polka dots is not one of them. She's written about MANY topics. She's just been made famous by sensationalistic media for her break up songs. She's got more than that (and everyone is allowed to dislike or hate every single one of her songs if they so please... but they're not about the same topic). Cardigan, it's nice to have a friend, soon you'll get better, safe and sound, I did something bad, this is why we can't have nice things, mean, The Man, You need to Calm Down, Karma, Bigger than the Whole Sky, Ronan, Shake it Off, Blank Space (yeah, it's a self-trolling song), Welcome to New York, The Best Day, Christmas Tree Farm, No body, no crime, Fifteen, Anti hero, Bad Blood, New Romantics, Miss Americana -OK, this one is half politics, half love-... I mean, dislike all you want and need to, your feelings are valid. Hate if you need to, too. But if you criticise, criticise with knowledge. The private jet is hateworthy enough to justify any bad feelings without the need to say untruths. She has a lot of songs not about love and lots of love songs not about her exes. So, I don't give a shit about her, she's a billionaire that doesn't need anyone. But it terrifies me that you've listened to some songs that confirmed your biases and decided that " I’ve heard enough to say confidently..." Confidently? Dude, when I went to an exam with confidence was because I had studied the full syllabus, so I was confident that whatever the teachers threw at me, I would pass with flying colors. I mean, people vote after getting informed. And you have chosen to "confidently" decide that her songs are all about the same stuff and their fans are the only unique thing about her. Maybe, just maybe, you could get the whole info before speaking with confidence. If a surgeon had learned 10 lessons of 243, I wouldn't feel confidence in that operating theater. I think Swift's music is basic pop with nice bridges, and only a pair of her songs are REALLY good musically (as in to survive being listened by people who don't understand English and just respected for the music), I think her forte are her lyrics. But, no, she doesn't always write about the same stuff.
@jamesdeich61024 ай бұрын
It goes beyond chord progression. Taylor writes sentimental songs, bit never genuinely sad songs. When she writes about Romeo and Juliet it is not a tragedy anymore. Not sad. Her breakup song are sentimental and sometimes angry, but never really sad, and deeply hurt. Nothing has the sadness of "drivers license" or many Amy Whinehouse songs. Her emotional range is also reduced.
@Ob-sw9sd4 ай бұрын
i love olivia Rodrigo ALOTTTTTTTTTTT shes one of my faves but to me drivers license wasn't really sad, it felt like a pretend sad.
@basskit_3 ай бұрын
You should check out Elliott smith if you like sentimental songs
@syntheticsilkwood22063 ай бұрын
@@Ob-sw9sdI think olivia has potential she tries to do something interesting with her music where even if I don't listen to her music I don't dislike it
@rhinocore3 ай бұрын
@@basskit_ sentimental songs that will absolutely destroy you.
@Ob-sw9sd3 ай бұрын
@@syntheticsilkwood2206 i know she can do interesting things on her songs, i LOVE her rage songs sm. But her sad songs aren't really sad if yk what I mean
@markmchenry44899 ай бұрын
I gave a like to this video because it articulated a point and backed it up with facts. I think Taylor is better at working hard and marketing herself as a pop star than she is as a musician. Maybe she can play and sing much more complex music but doesn't because it might be harder to sell, but until I hear her do so I will continue to listen to Eva Cassidy, Joni Michell and other great female artists.
@dorianmartinez5155Ай бұрын
good to know that is only your opinion, idk about this video "givin a point" bc he only articuled how taylor is bad by doing something that every other artist does, and also just because you don't like her music doesn't mean she is a bad musician and something tells me that you haven't listened to her discography bc what makes you think doesn't do it already? (notice a little hate in your comment)
@ilyesnoah782Ай бұрын
True she do an extreme and magnificent job when it comes to marketing herself and her music she used everything she can to hype her music and life wow
@janez607727 күн бұрын
@@dorianmartinez5155 Not "every other artist" uses multiple chord progressions more than 20 times!!! (source: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8iHZtZ2uJjec6s.html) I still like some of her songs but you have to admit that this is kinda distasteful
@dorianmartinez515527 күн бұрын
@@janez6077 i think you need to listen to more music bc they really do Here are few examples: Hank williams Ariana grande Buddy Holly Some artists uses the same chord progressions (which is not a bad thing) the same or even than taylor does And that video just show the same songs that this guy showed I don't really get how her using the same chord progressions is "distasteful" it's not a crime and is something that every single other artist does so i guess that's just for you
@shaewall952110 ай бұрын
I wish there were more videos like this. Not to bash Taylor Swift, but to show that Taylor isn’t the end all, be all artist that her fans built her up to be. I find it so disrespectful when people say that Taylor is the best songwriter ever or even one of the best. Many artists before her have written songs with more substance and more meaning, such as, war, segregation, racism, pain, illness, thankfulness...and yet almost all of her songs are about her breakups or people not loving and adoring her.
@kattej8376 ай бұрын
ah yes, the issue with this would be- taylor swift is a white woman. the second she says something about any of the issues you mentioned, her career would be over. She perfectly understands that she can't speak about issues like racism,war and segregation- because she has never experienced that, and writing about it would invalidate all the people that have gone through these experiences. but she has experienced breakups, media attention, slut shaming, body shaming, lack of confidence- those are things she CAN speak about, and they just happen to resonate with a lot of people around the world.
@googoogaga4905 ай бұрын
Here are some of Tswift's songs that matches the messages that you mentioned WAR- "epiphany" from folklore- draws imaginary from war to nurses and doctor dealing with covid patients SEXISM- "the man" from lover- addresses gender bias in the music industry/other workplaces POLITICS- “Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince" from lover- about disillusionment of American politics and inequality, set in a metaphorical high school ILLNESS/PAIN- "Soon you'll get better" also from lover- about serious illness in her family since both of her parents have had cancer and her mom is fighting it again during that time THANKFULNESS- "All of the girls you've loved before" again, lover- being thankful for the women that her boyfriend has met (Also, note that most of these songs are from her ONE album)
@gautamimeherkar4 ай бұрын
@@googoogaga490 Exactly! and there are so so so many more which show more depth to life. Other albums also have so many songs which touch upon other issues or even something happy
@gautamimeherkar4 ай бұрын
Hello! Well, adding to the comments already there over here, even though she touches over a variety of meaningful things like you mentioned and more, factually, yes, most of her songs are actually about love and how beautiful it is (Yeah, no, breakup songs dont make the majority). But is that so bad? So many poets and lyricist specialize in writing about love. Like you said, one of the best songwriters include Bob Dylan and our very own Paul McCartney are known for their romantic song writing. Poets (because TS considers herself more of a poet who has a story writing mostly over the same chords) including Shakesphere and Wordsworth are often quoted for their Romantic sonnets. Maya Angelou has always written about racism, sexism etc. All of these are great and do have versatility in their writing as well. And so does TS. Just because she's known for something, doesnt mean she isnt good at it. That is the reason why she has resonated with so many. I dont intend to compare all these people. Obviously these are legends and reformers.. and TS has barely started. But all these great people and great lyricist did get alot of criticism back in their days. Maybe that's the case with TS? could be.
@Thedevilswheel3 ай бұрын
Ellie Goulding > Taylor swift
@brickking60685 ай бұрын
The reason she's famous is: group mentality, they can call themselves swifties and talk about the new album. But you know that, at night, when you're alone in bed on Spotify with earbuds, it sucks.
@PercypotterTaylorsVersion4 ай бұрын
I love doing exactly what you just said sucks. And I can assure you that I enjoy every moment of it
@PercypotterTaylorsVersion4 ай бұрын
But that’s just my opinion so
@lezylol63743 ай бұрын
The reason she’s famous because the music is bops, I hate HATED Taylor swift for so long, but a big fan of folk-indie music her folklore evermore albums are great. If you took time to maybe just listen to her more in depth songs maybe you’d like her(you don’t have to like her), the over-saturation of her more basic popular pop songs makes it perceive her music is terrible. Honestly I don’t choose to listen to those songs because to be honest those are her most tiring, but songs like the lakes, glitch, are great!
@Msgabbb2 жыл бұрын
This was eye opening and quite hilarious because her fan base loves to make the argument that she’s so great at writing when we all know her voice is mediocre at very best, so the songwriting is the only thing they have going for them. Love this video.
@justanordinarydemigay52432 жыл бұрын
Taylor's lyricism is not mediocre, and I doubt you can find as good and popular of a lyricist today, also, the fact that she can use them so much but still make it different and interesting enough for people to appreciate is definitely a plus.
@Msgabbb2 жыл бұрын
@@justanordinarydemigay5243 I said her voice is mediocre at best not her lyricism. And it’s the truth.
@justanordinarydemigay52432 жыл бұрын
@@Msgabbb I won't argue with you, then, because your mind clearly can't be changed with logic...
@justanidiotmk27492 жыл бұрын
@@justanordinarydemigay5243 it's not logic it is subjective just because it is popular opinion doesn't mean it's logical
@ProximaCentauri88 Жыл бұрын
While Taylor's lyrical depth is debatable, her sonic talent is obviously mediocre to boring as F. Mariah Carey is a great example of a true icon not just for having a distinctive tone in her voice, but also for her amazingly overlooked songwriting!
@allure54222 жыл бұрын
Wait till the Swifties figure out that these examples are not all of it. They'll have a melt-down.
@bitchass9073 Жыл бұрын
No they'll just say "it's about the story"
@goread554410 ай бұрын
“Greatest storyteller of all time” 😂😂😂
@user-cp1ll4kv8o9 ай бұрын
They will never they are just a bunch of teenage girls who think she is the music industry and that's pathetic af
@berrie70984 ай бұрын
there's like 21 plus 😢
@PercypotterTaylorsVersion4 ай бұрын
Outta 270+
@testing78023 ай бұрын
I credit her massively as a business person to be able to monetize herself with the same songs over and over. She is a master of branding and PR. She acts silly and weird so teeny boppers can relate to her. I guess it infuriates me though because there are artists with 100x the talent but a fraction of her net worth. I don’t fault her but I fault her brain dead fans who can’t appreciate good music.
@TheFirstHurrah21 күн бұрын
EXACTLY
@SuperDuperSentinel2 ай бұрын
Her fanbase comprises of 9-year old girls and boring suburban women who shop at target and Starbucks. I’m sorry, but no, these people are not the trendsetters of music, style, tastes, or anything: they are consumers. They are not cool and they probably never will be cool. I wish as a collective we stopped conflating big numbers with artistry and vision.Just because Olive Garden is the most successful Italian restaurant in the world doesn’t make it BY ANY MEANS the best. And yet when it comes to music and film people cannot seem to grasp this concept. Conformity sells, and Taylor Swift is the quintessential “suburban girl”…THAT is her appeal and that’s okay. But pretending that her brand and products are artistic excellence is where I’m drawing the line. It is not. And this is why her fanbase keep trying to gas up her mediocre songwriting rather than just being honest: they identify with her because her very identity is very much like their own
@deanjonasson6776 Жыл бұрын
Never a fan but, being an older guy, I'm not Taylor's target audience. However, I witnessed something interesting a few months back. I was at a karaoke bar (celebrating a friend's Birthday). It wasn't a closed bar so there was a 50/50 split between young (20-somes) and old (40-50-somes). Lots of participation from both groups and a fair bit of audience participation when a classic song was sung. However, on three separate occasions, various singers got up to perform Taylor Swift songs. They struggled with the vague melodies and idiosyncratic phrasing and, in each case, talk-yelled the lyrics while laughing in embarrassment. If it had happened once, it would have been fairly unremarkable but the repeated examples had me thinking, "Maybe these work as songs because only Taylor can sing them." (Ryan Adams covered Taylor's "1989" album to mixed success. To me, it sounds like Springsteen covering gum commercial jingles.) There are a few of her singles that will endure, I suppose, especially those with fun videos. The fact that so many young, potential singer-writers love Swift probably means there will be a renaissance in 15-25 years. (Think of all the recent 'country' artists who sound like Fleetwood Mac.) Positive: Taylor is productive, hooky and assertive; she's really helping out record stores. Negative: Her songs are samey and all seem to be about her ex-boyfriends; they sound excessively caffeinated at my local grocery store; her last album came out with four different covers but the same songs! p.s. The blending of "All Too Well" and "Champagne Problems" sounded surreal. As more songs got layered, I felt like I was grocery shopping! p.p.s. Can you do the same thing with Bob Dylan now?
@runfusion Жыл бұрын
Maybe only autotune can sing them... Nowadays, there is not one musician in the world with at least mild popularity who doesn't use autotune, and it's getting out of control. The point of singing is to let out your talent, not to fabricate the authentic experience of music. I can only imagine what Kurt Cobain would think if he listened to modern music today.
@alyp.3909 Жыл бұрын
@@runfusion look up videos of her resent tour. I think this is not autotuned. what do you think? but yeah it really is used a lot with popular musik lately
@runfusion Жыл бұрын
@@alyp.3909 kinda hard to auto tune a LIVE TOUR… her albums are definitely auto tuned though
@alyp.3909 Жыл бұрын
@@runfusion yeah I know but what is wrong to make your music sound even better? She is a perfectionist and it does not sound so much different from her real singing voice, thats what I meant
@runfusion Жыл бұрын
@@alyp.3909 I know it doesn’t sound much different, and it is very important to make your music sound as good as possible, and that deserves respect. But the people saying that Taylor Swift is the most talented musician of all time are wrong, since she needs to use artificial means to record an album. Yes, she is definitely talented, but not talented enough to deserve nearly as much attention as Elvis got.
@Grymbaldknight Жыл бұрын
It's possible that Taylor Swift's music is popular specifically because it's so samey. Life is full of constant change. Not all of it is welcome. Change can be stressful, especially for people who have homely, romantic souls. Sometimes we like to go home after a difficult day and have enjoy our favourite comfort food - the specific snack or meal which has been delicious and unchanging since we were young. This food is soothing and dependable, reminding us that although time does pass, some things remain the same. It's nourishing in the present, and yet also conjures feelings of nostalgia for a happy past. I'm sure that, to many, Taylor Swift's music is the the audio equivalent of comfort food. Even though she continually releases new music, the fact that her new music sounds approximately the same as her old music - often with the same themes - is probably exactly what a lot of people want. It helps, too, that her music seems quintessentially late-00s (to my untrained ears), and many younger Millennials and older Zoomers probably grew up listening to her earlier songs. This gives it a sense of "timelessness", much as anything associated with one's childhood. I don't listen to her music, but I can understand why that might be appealing.
@user-yc5um2pl5v Жыл бұрын
Very interesting (and most likely true). Thank you for writing this!
@boi2679 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@jool59416 ай бұрын
No. It’s popular because she has an amazing marketing team that has been spending millions since day 1 to make her famous
@TheReeelBradPitt5 ай бұрын
Yes, that’s actually the whole point of developing a formula for movies, music, tv, food, is to appeal to as wide a range of people as possible, because changing it up increases the chances that someone won’t like it. So instead they don’t fight to win, they fight not to lose. The music industry in general is very formulaic, and is the mark of corporatism. It’s much easier to see in other crafts, like food (McDonald’s/Burger King), movies (marvel/illumination), chips (Doritos/cheetos). The reason corporations strive for formulaic products is for all the reasons you just stated as it’s significantly more profitable, and Taylor being formulaic is not too different. I like fast food too, same as everyone else. But for some reason no one compares Ronald McDonald to chef gusteau, or Bobby Flay. Unlike swifties
@ultravioletpisces36665 ай бұрын
Exactly…. You could make the same criticism of most things in pop culture, there is going to be an underlying sameness…. Most tv shows you can line up the main characters and say they are the same characters as the scooby doo gang, or giligans island, or Friends. You can see that most good dressers follow similar formulas that work for them, Steven king books follow a similar formula too one another, Anne rice follows a similar formula… you break the formula too much and people don’t like it. Success comes from following a formula and occasionally breaking from it but generally going back to it…
@nicholastotoro7721 Жыл бұрын
That's also the chord progression from "Let It Be" 🤣 That said, the I-V-VI-IV progression is in soooooooo much pop music and she constantly uses it, just changes the keys.
@bitchass9073 Жыл бұрын
But let it be has a bridge that breaks up the boring chords, Taylor Swifts songs are so linear and monotone.
@bitchass9073 Жыл бұрын
And also it's not at all the chordprogression from let it be
@nicholastotoro7721 Жыл бұрын
I was being semi-sarcastic. It’s the chord progression from the main melody, but it does change up and play around a lot. Taylor uses it in everything, just transposes keys and adapts lyrics from whatever guys she’s… uhm… that given week.
@isabelguzmanmiranda50256 ай бұрын
@@bitchass9073 Taylor swift has, in general, very good bridges. In some cases, (like Lover, which is super boring in general), the bridge is better than the rest of the song. The bridges in Karma, Look What you Made me Do, Cruel Summer, Love Story... those are great. So, I see how some of her songs can be considered boring (I find folklore -save for Exile- and Evermore boring and repetitive), but her bridges are not the problem. And "Lover" is a really good pop record, with very different songs. That record was not monotone at all, such a pity that the worst songs were the singles.
@bitchass90736 ай бұрын
@@isabelguzmanmiranda5025to me, a good bridge doesn’t save a bad song though. My problem with Taylor Swift is her massive influence on pop music, and how she is keeping it exactly the same it has been for so long. Music has to evolve
@VinceLyle2161 Жыл бұрын
It's a good point, but chord progressions and what they sound like are akin to a cinematographer's work in movies: unnoticed by the vast majority, appreciated by only a few. John Ford ensured his easy retirement with shots of rocks Monument Valley, but he's still considered a great director because he gave the movie-going public what they wanted over and over again. Taylor is doing the same. And it's not even really a shot at people who loved westerns in the 50's or Swifties today. You like what you like. Enjoyment of music isn't (solely) based on the originality of it, in melody or lyrics. It's how it hits your ear. For Swifties, her music hits their ears just right. Like most, I'm not her audience. I like a few early hits, but my musical tastes have ossified. But again, I like what I like.
@gaylenwoof Жыл бұрын
Good points, and thanks for speaking up. I'm wondering if you have listened to her last 5 albums (not just the hits). A year ago I was saying exactly the same things you've said. I liked a few early hits, etc. but wasn't paying attention to anything more. When Midnights came out, I was surprised at how much I liked it, so I decided to listen to folklore and evermore. I totally fell in love with those albums. (The Folklore "Long Pond Sessions" movie added several more layers of appreciation.) Then I tried Lover and, again, I was amazed at how much I loved it. I alread "knew" that I didn't like Reputation, but decided to listen anyway. It turns out that Reputation is one of my favorite albums. I still enjoy the early hits, but my favorite songs are scattered across the last 5 albums. If you have not heard them in depth, I would recommend giving it a try. I'm annoyed with myself for taking so long to discover how much I love her deep cuts.
@VinceLyle2161 Жыл бұрын
@@gaylenwoof Someday, maybe I will but for now pop is not really on my radar. I'm not denying she's talented, but my desire to explore music doesn't extend to trying to understand Taylor Swift better. When I listen to music instead of podcasts, I generally head toward Classical for the emotions it wrenches out of me. Or jazz. I'd say the closest I get to Taylor is female folk rock singers of the 90's, like Patty Griffin, Sara Bareilles, and Shawn Colvin. They're singing about bad relationships, too, but they're more a little more grown-up about it, which is maybe bias on my part, since I can't really see Taylor Swift as a grownup since she got famous in her teens. I'm glad you found songs you like in the deep cuts.
@gaylenwoof Жыл бұрын
@@VinceLyle2161 Fair enough. But when you say that you can't see her as "grown-up", I find myself wishing I could hear your reactions to folklore and evermore. Perhaps you won't like those albums, but I think it would be impossible for you to think of her as anything other than fully mature (as a singer and as a songwriter, and as a human being). Part of my consternation stems from the fact that just a year ago my own reactions were virtually identical to yours.
@naheenisapoet699 ай бұрын
@@gaylenwoof I didn't like TS at all until folklore and Evermore hit and I was like holy shit she finally matured. But midnights wasn't that great
@DaPoopIsInDaPudding7 ай бұрын
All crap
@Bekind943 ай бұрын
Thank you. Please keep doing this. I’m a singer and musician and I just. Can. Not. Take anymore.
@therandomname69420 Жыл бұрын
Funny how he didn't criticize her lyrics once, just the chord progression(s)
@CrimsonEclipse11 ай бұрын
He should because she has similar story telling in many of her songs even if it's a new relationship.
@soulfireonfire642311 ай бұрын
@@CrimsonEclipse No actually her songs don’t
@CrimsonEclipse11 ай бұрын
@@soulfireonfire6423 actually many are very similar but hey it take a while to process all her songs since she has so many.
@Crazyfool1210 ай бұрын
@@soulfireonfire6423ACTUALLY, they do. 😆 Cope
@ralphspradley79889 ай бұрын
Thematically it’s love songs, break up songs, and girl power. The lyrics are derivative, simple, purely aimed at females, and forgettable
@hienchi2565Ай бұрын
Taylor's music is a McDonald of music 😂
@ovalsteiner65433 ай бұрын
Big line is: "she's overrated"!!
@_Kumorii_ Жыл бұрын
I'm still learning about music so I wouldn't be surprised if I was corrected, but I think we're too focused on the fact that Swift uses the same chord progression too much instead of focusing on the fact that she somehow manages to make so many songs with it, to the point that some of them actually sound different from one another. Unless people are attentive, they maybe would've never guessed that idk, Love Story & All Too Well share the very same chord progression. It's creative & also not at the same time: She keeps reusing the same chord progression but she's still able to make many songs out of it, some different from others. Ig it's somewhat admirable even if for others, it can get boring at times.
@MendingWall210 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. Variety of chord progressions doesn't matter. Variety of melodies matter, and there's untold millions within a chord progression. Most sophisticated musicians can't find them. She can.
@dickcastle7 ай бұрын
she uses the same chords because shes creatively bankrupt
@rosanaconta34166 ай бұрын
@@MendingWall2basci
@rosanaconta34166 ай бұрын
@@MendingWall2basic
@lezylol63743 ай бұрын
She has many songs with other chord progressions also, her making songs in the same chord progression doesn’t make her a bad artist as, that chord progression is popular in all music.
@shawnandrew_artist6 ай бұрын
The 7 songs of the Apocalypse.
@sharikvashny87862 ай бұрын
This is hilarious. I love it. My guitar teacher hates her and says that she just writes simple songs for teenagers that have no music appreciation or ability.
@shawnandrew_artist6 ай бұрын
Romeo almost ran the red while looking at Juliet. Too much champagne consumption can cause problems if you drive afterwards.
@MendingWall211 ай бұрын
This progression and other combinations of I-IV-V-VI of the diatonic scale are the basis of popular music in America, whether fans of complex music like it or not. There's a reason for that: it's much easier to write catchy tunes with these progressions. And attractive melodies are what makes music popular. It's just a fact of life.
@thierryhenry6744 ай бұрын
Catchy? 😂 Do you mean cheesy?
@thel135511 ай бұрын
I can't believe you made me listen to Taylor Swift. Fortunately, the songs are so forgettable it won't be a problem in a about 10 minutes.
@soulfireonfire642311 ай бұрын
So why bring it up.
@shaewall952110 ай бұрын
@@soulfireonfire6423Well they are quite basic and easily forgettable.
@shaewall952110 ай бұрын
I concur
@durosuave9 ай бұрын
@@soulfireonfire6423 cry
@user-ey5xw2nx9s22 күн бұрын
I really forgot them after 5 minutes 💀
@00bikeboy11 ай бұрын
I don't listen to music too often any more, but she's been all over the news here (Canada) and I felt I had to sample a little of her music. For context, I was born in 1959, and consider my musical era to be the '70s and '80s. I found her stuff, well, just boring. Nothing remotely interesting, catchy, nothing that made me want to sing along or physically move. When a great or fun song comes on, you involuntarily want to move (tapping your foot, or bobbing your head). Taylor Swift... nothing. I find her 'music' self-indulgent, boring, and tedious. But that's world we live in, Donald Trump was president (and may be again) and Taylor Swift is popular. But if you'll excuse me I need to cleanse my ears with some Talking Heads.
@CrimsonEclipse11 ай бұрын
I felt the same and I tried listening to all her music. Nothing sticks. Nothing make me feel anything but annoyed, bored, or eyerolled. I found her to fit into modern western girl problems which I don't relate. People kept saying she is a good storyteller but all I see in her stories is an over privileged girl who is over dramatic with too many personal issues. Too many emotional problems. Too many day dreamings. Too many pettiness. Kind of the typical modern American girls now a days who has daddy issues and relationships problems. Even if she is still he daddy's little princess she obviously has relationship problems where she saw anyone who dumped her as the problem. Also the victimhood. But hey that sells now a days I guess.
@pauljordan44525 ай бұрын
THEY WERE BRILLIANT.
@matildafaltyn62535 ай бұрын
I listened to her 3 most popular songs expecting something catchy. But I agree with you. It's like walmart music. Not a big fan of Madonna but at least many of her songs are distinctively different. @@CrimsonEclipse
@misfits9294Ай бұрын
@@CrimsonEclipse Yikes, this comment is a red flag. It's clear you haven't spoken to a real woman in months if not years. "Modern woman" as a concept doesn't exist because, just like men and any people ever, we are all individual human beings. Go outside, touch some grass, and talk to a real life woman and not your strawman reactionary caricature the internet told you about.
@CrimsonEclipseАй бұрын
@@misfits9294 I found it funny you assumed my gender. It just show what kind of people are into Taylor Swift. FYI I'm a woman and a biological one too. Maybe you should check yourself and your own problematic relationship with men in general. It probably explains your choice of music.
@emmarosehurt7 ай бұрын
Please come at the white stripes (Jack White) for the same thing!! I’m a fan, but when I was a teenager playing cover after cover on guitar I quickly realized they are all constructed sooo consistently 😂
@boomer31505 ай бұрын
And that Meg drummer..pretty lame.
@ultravioletpisces36665 ай бұрын
Lots of musicians do this and pop also tends to stay within certain bounds
@TheJimbo17915 ай бұрын
The White Stripes is some seriously good shit as a band and Jack White is a genious. I do not know what songs you are referring to, but he uses many chord progressions. Of course the traditional blues, which is his trademark, has the same progression always. Meg is a fantastic drummer, you must understand the idea behind the band.
@ultravioletpisces36665 ай бұрын
@@TheJimbo1791 I think the point is- lots of musicians use the same cord for many songs and it’s not really a measurement of their skill or quality.
@christopherkelley1664 Жыл бұрын
Funniest lyric "and the saddest fear comes creeping in." As opposed to the happiest fear? Like someone throwing you a surprise party?
@user-jokingsage9 ай бұрын
if you pay attention to the suffix in 'saddest' it's saying it is THE worst. THE most sad. She is never saying that there are happy fears, just that there can be a range of strength in the sadness that accompanies the fear. It's followed by "..That you never loved me..or her..or anyone...or anything" Thinking about the possibility that someone you had loved and cared for in a relationship could've never loved you or anything else in the world can really hurt, making it the saddest, or worse, fear that she has. I would understand where you were coming from if she only said 'the sad fear comes creeping in' because would be insinuating that there is another kind of fear that is happy, but adding 'est' to the end makes a scale of sadness.
@christopherkelley16649 ай бұрын
@@user-jokingsage No, the "saddest fear" comes creeping in. The fear is the saddest fear. Words have meaning, it's all right there as a modifier.
@user-jokingsage9 ай бұрын
@@christopherkelley1664 yeah. its the saddest fear. i know that. just because there is a most sad fear does not mean there is a happiest. it is just more sad than other fears.
@christopherkelley16649 ай бұрын
@@user-jokingsage It implies a range of fears, from not sad to sad. Is there a fear that is 0% sad? A good way to examine your writing is to see if your modifiers create unnecessary questions or implications. Neil DeGrasse Tyson once said "We are stardust in the highest exalted way." Exalted already indicates high, but using the word high in addition to exalted opens up the questions: Is there a middling exalted way? Is there a lowest exalted way? Since it was extemporaneous, he can get a pass. But a lyricist should be more precise.
@isabelguzmanmiranda50256 ай бұрын
@@christopherkelley1664 Fear and sadness are different emotions, and yes, there are fears that are not sad (for example, fears that could make you angry). On the contary, NDGT I feel was wrong in saying "the highest exalted" because "exalted" is a superlative adjective already and using it with another superlative adjective is redundant. Saying one fear is "the saddest one of them all" means that in all the range of sad fears one can have, this one was the worst, that a person one loved was a psychopath. If you want to find trouble with her lyrics, you can mention "riding shotgun in the front seat of his car". Girl, if you were riding shotgun, we already know you were in the co-pilot seat of his car. As for "We can leave Christmas lights up until January..." that's pretty normal, she could have said "February", which has the same amount of syllables, and it would have made more sense. But, "the saddest fear"? That has zero problems, gramatically, semantically and syntactically.
@kaybrown40102 жыл бұрын
SPOT ON. On behalf of my ears, thank you for noticing.
@TheMediaMachine11 ай бұрын
This is a big problem now with music. In many studies done it's revealed that music today especially pop music in the last 10 years till now has no variety in chords, in type of instruments used, and it's the same chords, same instruments. It's got worse. Taylor is good at selling and she focuses on what sells and when I say "what sells," I mean what will get radio stations want to play the song more often, what will get distributors to play the song more often, what will get movies producers to buy the songs etc. She is only playing into the hands of the machine that exist because it makes money and it pleases the simple minded audience...for now. Hey, if this is for you, awesome but she is only doing knowing what the big music outlets, channels, broadcasters and labels want. So what do people expect? It's not going to change.
@CrimsonEclipse11 ай бұрын
I totally agree on your perspective. Even when she reinvent herself she is following the latest trends. Like she got into cottagecore Indie music because it was trending at the time and she needed to get into the market to make the sells. Even if I don't like her stories and her sounds no matter which genres she jumps into. I do have to admit the girl knows how to sell. She knows what's popular at the time and will jump on that train to get into the market.
@naheenisapoet699 ай бұрын
Yup a people pleaser at her best
@hezixiao3 ай бұрын
And when she isn't using this progression, she uses the same 4 chords and just changes the order... like I Knew You Were Trouble (Am F G C)
@pamus6242 Жыл бұрын
This is the exact reason why i subscribed to this channel and do not have the time to listen to the drinkers ramblings. Thank you Echo Chamberlain.
@truefilm6991 Жыл бұрын
Let's make one concession (LOL): The V chord is an add 11, so you can have the note C (root of the key) playing all the way through as a common tone.
@Adam0JenКүн бұрын
Hahah thank you for the analysis and making my day
@dewardshrewd67298 ай бұрын
actl i dont find chord progressions to be the biggest issue sometimes. but the problem now is even the melody sounds samey and bland.
@compulsiverambler13527 ай бұрын
The minimalistic and formulaic studio production with small range of instruments used and lack of dynamic range is what makes all expensively promoted pop music sound like it was pumped out of a factory, not the chord progressions in my opinion - there are only so many of them anyway.
@joemck74 Жыл бұрын
Axis of Awesome have entered the chat..........
@shaanz2.08711 ай бұрын
Fantastically explained ❤
@costernocht3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this. I have no musical education, but a good ear, and had a feeling there was a sameness about her melodies. Well, now I know, fortified by evidence.
@versevica Жыл бұрын
Swift fan backlash is a minor threat.
@nix30817 ай бұрын
Anyways folklore >>>
@janez607727 күн бұрын
If anyone wants a video detailing the total chord progressions used by Taylor Swift --> kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8iHZtZ2uJjec6s.html
@snibber Жыл бұрын
He was right about the rabid swifties
@lauraw.28375 ай бұрын
she "only" won 14 grammys, but 4 times album of the year
@virgil81nz5 ай бұрын
😂😂 You're absolutely spot on. That's gold.
@SwervyyyyАй бұрын
What’s the chord progression called?
@compequiet058417 күн бұрын
You're so funny, dude. Earned a new sub!
@marcmarc1967 Жыл бұрын
So Lonely, by The Police. When it's done well, you don't even notice it.
@SandymoorFerrariClubАй бұрын
It's often said that Taylor Swift writes music for people who don't like music. It's completely true. Her lyrics are good. Her singing is good. Her image is good. Her ability to promote herself and engage with fans and operate a successful music business is good. Her music is really bland and basic. Very little is going on in the chords or the melodies, except a lot of repetition. If you don't like music, she's an ideal musical artist for you, because she provides nice lyrics, voice and image for you to enjoy without getting distracted by all that confusing music. You get to pretend that you enjoy music when what you're really enjoying is everything else that comes along with the music. I don't see this being a problem, if you enjoy it you enjoy it.
@troffle8 ай бұрын
Truly, I was expecting song number 7 when I heard "thoughts and prayers". But, right at the end works *just* as well, sir.
@jamessimon3433Ай бұрын
Anyone who gains incredible success and massive wealth and yet proclaims that they are held back or is a victim of some kind of societal persecution is a very broken, insecure, pandering, bitter individual. They have NO business complaining. They only do it because it will resonate with their customers, as if she has it tough just like the rest of us. Blegh.
@Keli_mafuyu5 ай бұрын
Let me summarized the good and bad things about her singing/songwriting Bad: She tends to use same chord progression more often than other artists, her voice is subjectively good but her vocal range is limited Good: She's versatile when it comes to genre (country, pop, rock, edm, folk), her lyricism is above average at worst
@basskit_3 ай бұрын
She hasn't made a single rock song
@Keli_mafuyu3 ай бұрын
@@basskit_ rock has many subgenres. Her old songs from the album Speak now were considered country rock/pop rock by many critics.
@andrewjenkinson70523 ай бұрын
"...she tends to use the same chord progression more often than other artists..." Is that true? He did not say that. I doubt that he checked other Artists. It is most popular progression precisely because songwriters USE it most. If they did not it would not be most popular😁
@JaysonT12 ай бұрын
@@andrewjenkinson7052In her defense, she likes to steal off other artists so she's not technically the one writing the the progressions.
@andrewjenkinson70522 ай бұрын
@@JaysonT1unless you can give evidence for that I call you a liar.
@brittscott467311 ай бұрын
Taylor Swift has a rudimentary knowledge of music on the guitar and piano. She is a good lyricist which is her greatest strength when it comes to songwriting.
@durosuave9 ай бұрын
Lol
@brittscott46739 ай бұрын
@@durosuave I'm not being a hater T.S. has talent. I just think her success is partially due to how bad today's artists and music is.
@its_clean6 ай бұрын
I think Taylor's knowledge is clearly more than rudimentary. She just chooses to write accessible music using familiar chords because that's what she likes, and what can have the greatest reach to the broadest number of people. She's like a skilled cook who **could** make you a white tablecloth tasting menu with white truffle foam and dry-aged bison Wellington and idk a yuzu soufflé or something, but instead she **chooses** to make you just the world's greatest grilled cheese sandwich, or a perfect Caesar salad. Accessible doesn't mean bad. Our brains can only do so many things at the same time. By not forcing us to spend energy trying to decipher complicated chords or unique time signatures or dissonant harmonies or cryptic lyrics, we're able to feel the music rather than thinking about it or analyzing it in KZfaq sheet music breakdowns. She wants us to experience the music, the stories she writes and the feelings she's trying to convey, she's not trying to teach music theory. This ain't math rock, this is pop, and at this point I'm not sure if there's a living soul on the planet who does it better than Taylor.
@cinnamonnotmylastname76633 ай бұрын
@@its_cleanso she COULD write better music but she CHOOSES to write mediocre music because her fans are slow and she doesn't want to confuse them?
@its_clean3 ай бұрын
@@cinnamonnotmylastname7663 That is exactly not what I said, but ok
@luanita307Ай бұрын
Does anyone do this(?): I don't know music theory, but when songs have the same progression, I kinda of mix them in my head and tend to sing from one song to the other It's how I know the cord progression is the same, but with no technical knowledge
@JochenHeistermann5 ай бұрын
She also weites Melodies. Some of those consist just of the root Note, so on a piano you would just Hammer one Single Note.
@misterknightowlandco7 ай бұрын
Taylor isn’t an artist or musician she’s a cult leader…
@jayandtay110Ай бұрын
all her songs are so similar! i almost cried to shake it off thinking it was my tears ricochet!
@EmilybouamraneАй бұрын
Bro samee!I was crying to london boy thinking it was so long london 😭😭
@xristinakikiou9934Ай бұрын
Stfu, stop kissing taylors ass
@generalbismark71639 ай бұрын
It would be one thing if it was just one artist but 4 note songs are everywhere in (I wish I could limit it to just pop) music.
@FoodNerdsАй бұрын
As a song writer and I use C-F-B -E in almost every song not because I’m uneducated in music theory but because I love these chords.
@jamesallison9662 Жыл бұрын
Look out! The Taylor Swift PR Industrial Complex is coming after you now, Boomer, Hater, Jealous!! Truly talented songwriters don't need a PR Industrial Complex.
@prd004.27 ай бұрын
Kudos for having the intestinal fortitude to listen to her music
@boomer31505 ай бұрын
No one knowing anything about music calls it music.
@rembot70613 ай бұрын
Brilliant video
@ShonnMorris9 ай бұрын
I'm dead LOL This video had me laughing out loud. I write music too and I know that I use the same four or five progressions, usually in minor keys and I have a tendency to use dimished and domimant 7th chords a lot.
@ilaytsa268511 ай бұрын
I think that this in a way also makes an argument against itself - these are all at least good songs that sound different from each other, yet they all use the same chord progression. I think it's a very cool ability to be able to get so much out of one musical idea. Kind of wish i could do that, although I'm sure that it's an ability you can obtain with experience.
@largeformatlandscape9 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly... The idea that working within a limited 'palette' and still creating popular and interesting harmonies and lyrics is a weakness is baffling? Do we criticise painters because they work to a style and with a certain palette? In fact in most arts, people who try to do too much variety tend to get looked down on as dabblers - it's the people who deep dive into a subset of an art that get the plaudits... obviously if you're someone 'into' the techniques of chord structure, she won't attract your interest. Just like somebody who hates landscape will never like a constable..
@naheenisapoet699 ай бұрын
@@largeformatlandscapewell more like she still hasn't matured probably
@largeformatlandscape9 ай бұрын
@@naheenisapoet69 I'm a bit against the whole 'matured' word as so many amazing artists produced there best work when 'immature'. Perhaps if you value a certain sound that could be interpreted as 'mature', then yes
@rosanaconta34166 ай бұрын
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@donnahewitt9916 күн бұрын
Pop music often faces criticism for its perceived simplicity, particularly regarding chord progression and harmonic structures. However, to reduce pop music to just these elements is to overlook the myriad factors that contribute to its artistry and cultural significance. Melodic craft -(creating a catchy and memorable melody or hook), lyrical content - (the ability to convey profound feelings in a few simple lines is much harder than you think), production quality - (intricate arrangements, sound design, mixing and mastering), rhythmic innovation - (innovative beat patterns, grooves, bass lines, rhythmic hooks, that drive a song). Pop music is not necessarily about having complex harmonic progressions. The simplicity itself can be magical and is often one of the hardest things to achieve in pop music or in any artform for that matter.
@Coastpsych_fi99Ай бұрын
I think she’s a great song writer in that she knows what her audience and consumer will love and delivers. It’s more the lyrics. Again more complex chords does not equal better automatically. She is good at putting lyrics over the songs and she has a strong brand. I’m never going to be a swiftie (love Jazz some Coltrane, Fitzgerald) and again I think you make a decent point about the musical abilities but writing and using words to convey stories and connect with her audience is the real key. She provides lore and clues - I’m not into that but I can dance around and enjoy some Taylor Swift. Thanks for sharing ❤
@peterprimes4975 ай бұрын
Compare her best written song, whatever that is to "Sympathy for the Devil". They're on different planets as far as sophistication. Her music will be in the dumpster 10 years from now. Stones will be around 50 years from now.
@thomasfahey8763 Жыл бұрын
I have nothing against the girl, but I laughed out loud at your video.
@downwithHamasandIran5339 ай бұрын
Is She a Dude??
@Lensman864 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done and I concur but to play Devil's Advocate: I IV V ?
@rexzues3947Ай бұрын
That same 4 chord progression was also used by The Beatles Let it Be and U2's With or Without You. Her songwriting is not to the standard of The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Michael Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, AC/DC, Prince, Phil Collins, Paul Simon, Bob Dylan and Taylor's songs are largely forgettable. I only remember Taylor Swift songs when they are played on the radio and not after. When you hear Taylor's music its generic especially when she uses the same chord progression over a number of her songs.
@nix30817 ай бұрын
playing champagne problems with a picture of fearless tv in the back..
@BJ-xz7wt6 ай бұрын
And this love with a picture of speak now in the back...
@jonasnaveros876411 ай бұрын
could you do a progressive analysis of her self-written songs all throughout her career?
@sharonortedschempp87595 ай бұрын
I fail to understand Echo, what could possibly be wrong with using the exact same chord progression for seven songs...... and probably many, many more!!! LOL.... just kidding!!! I totally agree with your assessment and analysis of Taylor's ridiculously limited scope of "Recycled Songwriting." As a writer myself, and probably you as well, we all need to be aware of reusing the same or similar chord progressions..... and thus, being stuck "in a writer's rut..." Anyway, thanks so much for sharing this valuable insight.... and I'll be prayingmfor The Holy Spirit to save and liberate "these helplessly trapped chords!!!" Ted Schempp, Nashville. P. S. In your opinion, did Michael Jackson and Prince fall prey to this same "Treadmill?" Thanks.
@user-cq1oi6hv3h5 ай бұрын
isnt blues basically also the same 3 chords ?
@AnaCVazquez8 ай бұрын
Just a few more songs with the same chord progression: Demons by Imagine Dragons, Let It Be(Intro) by The Beatles, She Will be Loved by Maroon 5, The Lazy Song by Bruno Mars, Baby by Justin Bieber. It’s extremely common.
@pacificblues22098 ай бұрын
But the way of use matters. Taylor's is straight boring and lacks lustre
@zeejay44588 ай бұрын
Yeah but Taylor’s melodies are boring and don’t pack a punch
@dorianmartinez5155Ай бұрын
@@pacificblues2209 just 4 you!
@astro639313 күн бұрын
@@dorianmartinez5155 No, to anyone with basic musical knowledge, or ears.
@dorianmartinez515513 күн бұрын
@@astro6393 sure, honey..
@sseltrek1a2b Жыл бұрын
when i was starting out in music, someone told me that you should always have someone in your life that will keep you from, "listening to your own press..."...apparently, Taylor doesn't have anyone in her life telling her that she's less artistically than she actually is...
@Swiftie_Haunted22Ай бұрын
Tell me how many times she used this 6 how many songs has she written? (Idk I tried to count all of them but gave up) over 200 somehow 6 out of >200 isn’t that bad
@Totally_trish3 ай бұрын
I accidentally threw it back to tolerate it (I thought it was look what you made me do)
@Ciborium2 жыл бұрын
I am waiting for the A-G-Am-F v Taylor Swift trial. I am looking forward to the list of experts demonstrating Taylor's history of abuse of this chord progression. I seriously hope that A-G-Am-F is able to get out of that relationship and seek counseling. But seriously, even Todd in the Shadows has remarked on the "four chord pop song" being a trope. Taylor Swift is no different than any other pop artist using the same four chord progression. The band Journey is well known for their abuse of the "four chord pop song" trope.
@MajesticWaffle Жыл бұрын
You realize it’s C not A major?
@ghjgknjkl5 ай бұрын
"Taylor Swift is no different than any other pop artist..."
@NarcissistAU Жыл бұрын
I owe Swift big-time, back in my dating days asking someone if they owned a Swift album early in the piece saved me a lot of time and massively reduced my risk of aneurysm. It worked a treat in my professional life too.
@thagirion97614 ай бұрын
That’s pop for you. It’s a formula that guarantees sales. This hapless chord progression has been used and abused for the last forty years!
@f666frida7 ай бұрын
At least now we know she writes her own songs! 😄
@pjludda4323 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh...Taylor Swift and formulaic music... Are we going to next have a breakdown of Nickelback, or are we going to not subject our ears to such torture?...
@bearpaw727 ай бұрын
Funny that you mentioned all that you said in this video. Because only a few weeks ago did I realize that Taylor Swift's Eras Tour achieved demand, statistics, and heights so unbelievable, the story is almost biblical. So I started researching her music and this research is slowly making a swiftie out of me. However, I agree with your points because most of my favourite Tay Tay songs don't use this progression (which she actually used in 21 of her songs). And in fact, some of my favourites are either different and/or more than four chords.
@donnydarko21002 ай бұрын
As usual where a difference of opinion occurs, it's dismissed and vilified as "haters" I would suggest that your rabid fan is often so polarised, that they cannot or are unwilling to be objective. I have favourite artists, but I don't like everything they've done. Ultimately, of course, it's all subjective and a matter of personal taste, as with all art. All I would suggest is that your musical heroes are not infallible or beyond reproach. In essence they're human, and will make mistakes. And their talent will not be unlimited.
@Alien-bu5bv3 ай бұрын
I think I do sort of have a musical ear because I swear a lot of her songs have the same melodys but I'm also an idiot who doesn't know much about music & can't carry a tune singing to save my life 🤣 but even I noticed ???? I also get that each artist has their signature style (especially Taylor because she is very marketable). I like some of her music but not all of it.
@jimmyallen8210 Жыл бұрын
If it ain’t broke…
@JonBlackstone10 ай бұрын
She’s the quintessential example of today’s successful music star. It’s all smoke and mirrors. Can you imagine people lashing out violently against someone who criticized the Stones or The Beatles? The thought is preposterous. Why? Because these were truly original creative artists who didn’t need a legion of cultists to defend their legacy. Taylor on the other hand is a very mildly talented attractive woman who’s only real claim to fame is the ability to produce hook laden pop songs of the most predictable and mediocre caliber combined with an excellent understanding of marketing in today’s social media driven culture. She’s basically Madonna Mark 2. But in our spiritually bankrupt times people of such insignificant skill can be elevated to an almost godlike status. Hence, when you attack Taylor; you’re attacking their god.
@aarushi.s990810 күн бұрын
It is more than her chord progressions. She is a songwriter, not much focused on composition and its her lyrics how even if its the same theme can hit different each time. Technicalities are always used against her, but she has owned her songwriting as her own form of expression even if its multiple chord progressions it makes her music hers. It can also bring beauty to have an identifying chord progression with different words and emotions expressed. So you can hate on her whatever but its not a generalizing fact. If you don't like her expression its fine, you cant see her art so leave it at that.
@wholewheaties2 ай бұрын
Great video. I've never listened to any of her music beginning to end but I thought 2 out of these 6 songs sounded rather good, (good like Backstreet Boys kind of good). I think her presence outside of music is actually more of a nuisance than anything else. If she just kept to herself and focused on music like, I don't know, Bob Dylan or something, people might have respected her a bit more.
@RowdyClouds4 ай бұрын
I will give credit where it is due, she is very creative with what she does and the formula she knows. But being creative within the confines of the same formulaic four chords is ultimately....no creativity at all to me.
@RNM-bu4rj4 ай бұрын
I have always said she’s a very safe artist. She needs a producer who pushes her out of her comfort zone.
@bigfella9574 ай бұрын
The formula of a innocent quirky white woman who comes from privilege
@lezylol63743 ай бұрын
She has a lot of the songs with the same chord progression, but if you look at the other songs without the same chord progression like, hits different, seven, the lakes, style, tolerate it, happiness, evermore. As a avid Taylor swift hater back around 2019, these songs got me into Taylor now her lyrics are very poetic and yes there’s other artists also great or some say even better than Taylor, her lyrics are still great.