The Wessex F Contrabass Trombone!

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4 жыл бұрын

A review of the Wessex Contrabass Trombone in the key of F.
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@cristiancaiola9588 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for "I made a BIG mistake" pt. 2

@Capricegirl_ 3 жыл бұрын

Too soon ;-;

@zacharyregin9726 3 жыл бұрын

Ikrrrrr

@RyanAlexanderBloom 4 жыл бұрын

I’d like to hear a bass trombone, this thing, and a standard contra bass trombone all play the same passage on the same absolute pitches to hear the tone.

@trombonimacaroni 4 жыл бұрын

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@Xzyum00 4 жыл бұрын

Please... NEVER EVER EVER do a drop test EVER... my heart can't take it! If it is absolutely necessary then do it with some SAI musical instruments...

@felixplaystuba6937 4 жыл бұрын

Wut it says posted 6 hours ago

@caeljensen6688 4 жыл бұрын

How six hours ago

@felixplaystuba6937 4 жыл бұрын

Cael Jensen you see it too?

@Swaggussnaregopingpinghaha 4 жыл бұрын

um what

@joshuaellis2887 4 жыл бұрын

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@jakeycakes3502 4 жыл бұрын

I got the semi-compact bass trombone a month ago and I love it to bits, these instruments are not cheaply made. I hope you can get more instruments from them in the future Trent!

@wetzles 4 жыл бұрын

Make some multi-track videos. Trombone ensemble or chorals with bass trombones and contra like Ben Van Dijk.

@DancingSpacePotato 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve been wanting to buy one of these forever! Since folks were talking about the newly formed Wessex on TTF. I talked with Wessex about things that could be customized when Jonathan was about to go to the factory again. I even tracked down someone to make a sturdier hand rest and some good options for a new leadpipe.

@DrFresh2777 4 жыл бұрын

Remember your other contrabass trombone, plz be careful with this one😂

@jimmybarr9411 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Trent, I’m so happ- DROP TEST!?!? Oh, whew, you had me worried there for a second haha. Anyway, congratulations on your new Contrabass Trombone lol

@marten594 4 жыл бұрын

It's a loan instrument, he said it at least once. Hence no drop test....

@loghbrass 4 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this review forever thanks

@kypiper 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, you should play solo pomposo (tuba version) on that horn btw.

@theblackbasketball 4 жыл бұрын

Sees Contrabass trombone in the title *_Flashbacks_*

@TheMrAshley2010 4 жыл бұрын

SO glad you did this review. A contra is a bucket list item for me. I think you touched on great key points. For those reading the comments, wondering about how a contra sounds vs a bass trombone vs other low instruments, search youtube for this:Epic Low Brass Game of Thrones Theme (Cover) . Contra sounds like a "trombone", but with more 'girth'. As opposed to a tuba playing the same exact pitch...which sounds like a tuba...more 'fluffy' - not trombone-like at all.

@jaymian2257 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Ride of the Valkyries at the end!

@aidenbagshaw5573 4 жыл бұрын

The whole time I was wondering; what exactly is it you need to do to avoid serious injury? Perhaps not trying to hold a contrabass trombone in one hand and a tuba in the other?

@pellevanesch6606 4 жыл бұрын

It's like an slightly shittier copy of thein, but now I can actualy buy a contra and a car.

@bobcat24 3 жыл бұрын

I like ur insight

@aguynamednathan 4 жыл бұрын

It has spikes on either end. For murder.

@counterfit5 4 жыл бұрын

Nathan McCartney Trombones don’t usually need the help

@worcestershirey 4 жыл бұрын

I was JUST looking to see if you've done any videos on Wessex instruments yesterday, and then you upload this. Absolute legend you are. So since you've gotten to play one, would you recommend the brand in general? Looking to get a flugelhorn or marching euphonium, but I'm not sure who any of the testimonials are, so I'm still on the fence.

@Turt3752 4 жыл бұрын

I got a Wessex Dolce and the tuning was good, everything looked fine. But the valves degraded extremely quickly and they stick constantly. I have a Yamaha Neo in the mail now and thank gods cuz I am literally unable to practice any technical studies.

@blisles7626 4 жыл бұрын

I've had good reports on the trombones from friends but the valved instruments not so much.

@PeterGriffin-kb2hf 4 жыл бұрын

There are many KZfaqrs who sing praise for them. I don't know what they are doing for the pandemic but if you are near Chicago they have a showroom to try out their horns there.

@iplaybadgames317 4 жыл бұрын

@@Turt3752 i wonder if youve tried possibly different valve oil? im asking only because i may possible buy one.

@joeervin1985 3 жыл бұрын

I have an older Wessex Michigan 5/4 Bb that’s a copy of the Miraphone 1291. Playing it vs the 1291 my horn had a better core to the sound and easier pedal register, but the 4th valve is a bit stuffier. I also used to have to oil the valves a lot, but I had to do that on my MM euphonium and JP Sterling Eb was even worse, so it may be something common to the stainless steel valves the Chinese horns are using. Intonation is very good, much easier than older horns I’ve played. However mine was handpicked by Sam Gnagy out of a lineup of horns he tried, so I was lucky on mine. I’ve heard the newer ones are much more consistent.

@gigabyte2248 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you, I feel so vindicated about ultra-low register! I've been hypothesising for years that the ultra-low register is like the ultra-high register, in that changing instrument doesn't get you any more notes, it just changes the tone colour. My lowest note on Eb tuba is a concert pitch F0 (or, at least, it was before COVID), and that's also my lowest note on Bb tuba. Also, Trent, you have some impressive low register yourself. My bass trombone playing is nothing to write home about, but I struggle to get lower than a pedal G. If I ever get my hands on a contrabass trombone, you can bet I'll be putting a big mouthpiece in it.

@yrismorenohorn8515 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Your videos are amazing! Thanks for sharing them...

@TrentHamilton 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@amyjensen9505 4 жыл бұрын

My heart started beating faster when you said drop test....very funny

@hectortorres4810 4 жыл бұрын

A tonal comparison between your Bb Bass, G Bass, F Contrabass, and Bb Contrabass as well as your thoughts on the uses of each in ensembles would be fantastic

@3OrMoreBones 4 жыл бұрын

10:14, was that a challenge to my tromboneship? Do I need to prove the might of the Helicopter Pedals?

@arisowizard7178 4 жыл бұрын

could you show a comparison how this instrument tunes in "b-flat mode" (with the 2nd valve mashed)?😁

@PwntByEKS666 4 жыл бұрын

I play a Wessex BBb contrabass, and it's great! Would definitely recommend Wessex

@mr.starfish4965 4 жыл бұрын

Where is it on the website? I don’t think it’s on the American site, and whenever I go to an international Wessex site it redirects me to the American one.

@GenGrey20 4 жыл бұрын

Would you be able or interested in doing the peanut vendor song since you have the horns for it?

@frednich9603 4 жыл бұрын

The hand pad is easily removable. I took mine off that horn when I owned it

@mahteef 4 жыл бұрын

Ion even play the tromptboner but I appreciate this review irregardless

@brianweeks87 3 жыл бұрын

A lovely instrument that I can sing along with! I love it! F1 for days bro! We should do a collab!

@kypiper 4 жыл бұрын

Trent: Also do you have a problem with the slide not wanting to stay locked using the attachment screw? I had to use plumbers tape on the schiller.

@angelo_catalano 4 жыл бұрын

Nice peanut vendor intro, reminds me of that youtube video with the trombone choir

@musicalguy9 4 жыл бұрын

Nice I wish i had a Contrabass trombone is it bigger than the G bass one I have 2 Bb Bass trombones and an Bb Tenor

@BernhardMichaelPlos 3 жыл бұрын

very interesting, thanks for sharing!

@louismarlow53 4 жыл бұрын

My Bb tenor trombone is by Wessex and it plays like a dream. Do you plan on buying from them at some point in future Trent?

@paulkolodner2445 4 жыл бұрын

I would like to know when the mating season for these beasts is. Do they whelp tenor trombones?

@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын

It would be neat if the bell section could take a piston valve cluster. Then you could use this as a cimbasso, although it wouldn't look like one.

@JonathanHarker 3 жыл бұрын

Thein made one for Paris Opera, a convertible contrabass trombone and cimbasso in F, sharing the bell section. Probably cost a bomb though thein-blechblasinstrumente.de/09-01-cimbasso.php

@denfinch5694 4 жыл бұрын

I've been a conventional bass trombone player for decades and a couple of years ago, bought a Yamaha Custom YBL 830 Xeno open wrap double independent. Prior to that l had a Holton TR181 so I have loads of experience with two valves. This contrabass trombone l feel would be superfluous to my requirements and would be so difficult to play alongside my Yamaha. I wonder if you can really get used to playing both instruments successfully? Trent, I realise that you get on well with playing it but there again, you can play all brass instruments. Lastly, in what setting would you play this contrabass? Thank you and kind regards. Den Finch

@Dj-re6kv Жыл бұрын

This is super cool! i’m a bass trombonist and one thing that caught my eye were the transpositions via the trigger and it seems that it plays in the exact same keys as a bass trombone except the Bb is down an octave and when you use both you get an Ab series. Beautifully designed instrument i’d love the opportunity to play one of these some day!

@Graham_M 4 жыл бұрын

Nice trombone! Don’t break it this time 😂

@bobboscarato1313 2 жыл бұрын

Better have good insurance! lol.

@captainmilkman 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently the back of the hand is called the "Opisthenar". I can't imagine anyone actually calling it that in a conversation, and apparently neither can my spell checker.

@kypiper 4 жыл бұрын

BTW, what did you have to do to your valves to be what you wanted?

@marycomiskey530 3 жыл бұрын

What's that song that he played at the beginning?! I've been trying to find it and can't!

@jamesschwenk4329 3 жыл бұрын

Like the sound very much. Quite like tuba. I have no idea what a trombone like this would cost. Do you know??

@jeannebouwman1970 2 жыл бұрын

"the second trigger is a short stumpy one" is longer than the fourth valve on my euphonium

@jimbersneutrombo 4 жыл бұрын

After having had one of these on loan, do you think they are worth the cost? Especially considering the exchange rate that Wessex applies when ordering online?

@johnries5593 Жыл бұрын

A slide tuba. I actually find that almost appealing enough to learn how to play a slide trombone (my usual brass instrument is a baritone). I do like the sound of this instrument.

@FirstnameLastname-et3wd 4 жыл бұрын

can u do a play test of the wessex bass trombones please?

@LargeJ 4 жыл бұрын

Is there sheet music for your intro song anywhere for sale or pdf let me know!!

@nathanblackman1063 3 жыл бұрын

If you know anyone with a wessex bass trombone in new zealand, can you do a review on it? The pbf 562 and/or pbf 565. Also you can compare the 562 to your 7b as they are very close design wise.

@Cysubtor_8vb 4 жыл бұрын

As for your comment on range, what if you're primarily a tuba and euphonium player; would there be a more noticeable difference in low range between bass and contrabass trombone if you're already used to hitting contrabass BBb pedal tones? Similarly, would a cimbasso essentially be a valved contrabass trombone in tone?

@bgraese2110 4 жыл бұрын

Through my experience playing a Wessex F Contrabass, no there will not be much of a noticeable difference, even if your low range is already super solid. I have found that the biggest difference is the ease of which playing those notes becomes. Everything low feels wide open and relaxed with effectively no resistance from the horn itself. If you are getting sound out on a double pedal Bb already, it may feel a bit easier to play but you won’t be able to hold the note for any substantial amount of time without a lot of work.

@karlfeuerstake916 3 жыл бұрын

Cimbasso tends to have larger bore and bell than Contrabass Trombone, so the sound has more "projection." This usually means warmer, louder bass frequencies when played soft and a more broad, wide tone when played loud with that "chainsaw" bite.

@hanj31 10 ай бұрын

I'm guessing this is pitched higher than a Bb contrabass trombone considering it has 2 triggers?

@trexkiller3904 4 жыл бұрын

In anatomy class we call the back of the hand the "dorsal hand".

@kypiper 4 жыл бұрын

What make of mouthpiece are you playing? Only one I can find that doesn't cost too much is a Bach. Its ok. Also finding a slide chart is hard to find, I had to make my own. Let me know if you want a copy of it. Overall, to me it feels more like a real bass trombone and has a great sound, but, more work, more air, and you do work out your arms and your hands get very tired. Do you have problems with the slide lock not wanting to stay unlocked and move around while playing?

@JonathanHarker 4 жыл бұрын

Steve Ferguson makes a 2A, a Larry Minick copy. You won't need anything else! (Assuming the smaller-than-tuba shank)

@boecaj3731 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Trend what does your shirt say?

@garyb8373 4 жыл бұрын

F / D / Bb (/ Ab) contrabass trombone. Nice.

@zwad07 4 жыл бұрын

Nice video!, These are really great trombones, I have some videos of how they sound in a trombone ensemble on my channel.

@waynesteffen8459 4 жыл бұрын

That knob and water key look pretty pointy. Watch out percussionists and, in my band anyway, horn players!

@stubblyhead 4 жыл бұрын

What is that six-valved, seven-belled contraption behind you? I don't recall seeing you talk about that one before.

@sweetpotatoesarereallygood 4 жыл бұрын

it’s in his video called the most perfect musical instrument

@sweetpotatoesarereallygood 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ppiUYJmEvpi5oZs.html

@ralphrandelbalbin2049 4 жыл бұрын

I heavily Laughed at that Drop Test

@TheMrAshley2010 4 жыл бұрын

Trent for the win!

@Bubbles-ij7vq 4 жыл бұрын

Next vid possibly f contrabass vs bb contrabass

@PebProductions46 4 жыл бұрын

How does this instrument compare to tuba in regards to embouchure / chops?

@ryanschneider3700 4 жыл бұрын

Considering that a tuba mouthpiece will fit in the receiver/lead pipe, I can imagine it wouldn't be much different if at all.

@bgraese2110 4 жыл бұрын

Barely a difference. The contrabass mouthpieces are around the size of a smaller F Tuba mouthpiece and I don’t recommend going any bigger. Any bigger and the instrument plays super flat, even with everything pushed in all the way. The big difference when playing a Contrabass Trombone instead of a Tuba is the pure lack of air resistance. It genuinely becomes an ab workout to play one for a full rehearsal.

@willcorff 4 жыл бұрын

How is the high range?

@mugencoreni7130 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if a Eb contrabass trombone is for me

@joshuamorehead6124 4 жыл бұрын

"Now time for a drop test" 🤣😂

@marten594 4 жыл бұрын

... still waiting for the drop test... 🤣

@Boricua-tn7ve 2 жыл бұрын

Come on men! I was waiting for you to finish “Mani” with that lower ending.

@timscofield8929 4 жыл бұрын

Could you please give bore and bell diameter please. On all your instruments when you review them please.

@harrisonchiangmusic 4 жыл бұрын

do models with handles on the slide exist?

@owensmith7530 4 жыл бұрын

G Trombones in the UK had handles on the slide, referred to as a "toilet brush handle". They're a thing of the past though.

@hudsondonnell444 3 жыл бұрын

Ohh! It I were only a teenager again and I got my hands on one of those. The flatulence I'd create!

@maxalain9948 4 жыл бұрын

Contrabass trombones are the coolest instruments on the face of the Earth bar none

@aidanchristensen1581 4 жыл бұрын

Can you try a wessex triple horn or sackbut

@iainmcneil969 4 жыл бұрын

I have a Wessex bass sackbut. The proportions are right, but it's not very sacbutty being made in the modern style. For the price however it is excellent, it is a realy nice F bass trombone, and with a proper sacbut mouthpiece it can blend reasonably with rennaissance ensembles

@andreasask6791 4 жыл бұрын

And then there is the french horn. Mostly for lefties?

@zacharyforino 4 жыл бұрын

How is the overall quality of these Wessex instruments?

@pauls5745 4 жыл бұрын

pretty much all China instruments are functional but sketchy as they begin to wear. slides and valves are not well-plated across all Chinese-made instruments so they have a limited lifespan. I have a Sterling French horn, beautiful really in black nickel finish, but the slides are not easy to remove, as if they are scraping metal off with each movement. any place that can use a thinner piece of metal, they do it. this is why Chinese instruments you see online are often 10x less than professional quality brand name instruments. they also save money by only quickly doing quality inspection on their products. my horn looks nice, it's new, but I see flaws in it's construction. they are functional, and an ok choice for school band programs

@waynesteffen8459 4 жыл бұрын

Trent-Could you weigh in on the build and materials quality of this horn? I have read that the quality of Wessex and John Packer instruments are superior to most of their Chinese-made cousins due to better quality control. Otherwise Paul S is generally correct. Thanks so much for reviewing a Wessex horn!

@Rhakor 4 жыл бұрын

I thing the quality of wessex instruments are awesome, played on a lot of their instruments on the "Musikmesse Frankfurt". Problem the instruments have, they are very very heavy.

@ggarzagarcia 4 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness, I didn’t know Wessex is Chinese in origin. I was considering getting a soprano. I want to get something else now, since I want something more stable and long lasting.

@stefanhering9839 5 ай бұрын

How deep can u Play on your f contrabass trombone

@TheStickCollector 4 жыл бұрын

Nice

@Revbone450 4 жыл бұрын

Make sure you have a good grip on this one... :P

@savagegoose5124 4 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy it? Straight from wessex and how much roughly?

@cregkly5444 4 жыл бұрын

I am pretty sure it was bought in the UK. Source: I have "tried" to play this very trombone

@JonathanHarker 4 жыл бұрын

It was £1600 + VAT. It seemed irresponsible to leave it in the shop at that price. It's not perfect, but it's perfectly adequate to learn on and a tenth of the price of the van Dijk Thein it is modeled on. All I have to do now is convince opera conductors that it's a slide cimbasso so they'll let me play it in Verdi and Puccini pit gigs...

@kickstand801 4 жыл бұрын

I WANT IT!!!!!!!

@Musibro3000 4 жыл бұрын

I think I might actually learn how to make instruments par with Selmer just so I can sell them for like 200 dollars. If I do it by myself, sure the work load will be high, but at least I can give good instruments to people without them putting a second mortgage on the house

@GuapoStinky 4 жыл бұрын

do you still have your last BBb one?

@laneandfriendsmusic754 4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@GuapoStinky 4 жыл бұрын

Oh okay thanks man

@lichitv1164 4 жыл бұрын

"...they got the springs from a garage door somewhere..." hahahaha

@lapiswake6583 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love a contrabass trom, if funds allow in the future. However, I don't see the point of an F contrabass trom, or a F tuba for that matter. Bb and Eb tubas are used in brass bands, Eb's are easy to read bass clef with if you're used to reading treble, and BBbs have that monster tone in the lower register, both fit into the standard brass band Bb/Eb pitching. And the C tuba you play the notes written in bass clef without any transposing or whatever. But F tubas aren't used in brass bands, you can do as much on an Eb as you can on an F, and I have no idea where I would start with reading bass clef on an F instrument. If I were to make my own brand of contrabass trom, it would be a scaled up bass trom. Independent triggers, 1st being down a perfect 4th, and 2nd being down a major 3rd, so you can easily switch between instruments without having to relearn how to use the trigger. And it would also be in Eb, so it fits in with brass bands better and is easier to read bass clef on. But since there is no Eb contrabass available, I would have to get a Bb contrabass instead.

@HugoMak 4 жыл бұрын

It's intended for use in orchestras and not really brass bands.

@bobofthekerbals9797 4 жыл бұрын

F is the most common tuba used for higher or less big tuba parts in orchestra

@Markworth 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, F Tuba and Eb Tuba aren't used for the same things. Run of the mill F Tuba is smaller than the average Eb Tuba as most of time, you're expected to play lower on the Eb Tuba. Hence why they're so often called EEb Contrabass Tubas even though they're only in 13'Eb. Sure, you should be able to play the same music on it, but traditionally, it's different.

@JonathanHarker 4 жыл бұрын

It's not that hard to read music for an F contra in bass clef. The open slide is the same as your first valve on bass. The first contra valve is in D, which is the same as both valves on bass. So the only thing that's new is the odd note where you need both (low G and F#, mainly) and you're good to go.

@owensmith7530 4 жыл бұрын

I'm in the UK and I've played Eb and BBb bass in both brass bands and orchestras. The BBb not so much in orchestras, but they noticed the day I turned up with it. "Where did you get that sound from?" the conductor asked later. I found bass clef really hard work on the BBb bass though.

@richardkast9845 4 жыл бұрын

dorsum palmaris is the term i think.

@ultimatex455 4 жыл бұрын

i thought my range would impove when i got my alto trombone but it did not

@owensmith7530 4 жыл бұрын

But the tone will be lighter and sweeter, which is what counts for an alto trombone.

@adamzimmerman2464 4 жыл бұрын

If you get the schilke 40B mouthpiece it works well for alto trombone (its the smallest tenor trombone mouthpiece in existence). I was using a bach 12c mouthpiece for my alto trombone before and I was really frustrated with it but the schilke 40B makes it a lot easier.

@ultimatex455 4 жыл бұрын

@@owensmith7530 i know its lovely. I want to get a contra because i think my range would improve but idk lot of money to see if can go lower than bass.

@ultimatex455 4 жыл бұрын

@@adamzimmerman2464 i play on a 7c thank you for the info

@Jonathantuba 4 жыл бұрын

Worth noting this is not the current Wessex contrabass trombone - it has been completely redesigned with regular rotary valves

@TrentHamilton 4 жыл бұрын

You are correct. I’d love to play the new one someday, and grab myself a cimbasso, but they’re both beyond my budget and spousal consent wouldn’t allow anyway!

@bobboscarato1313 2 жыл бұрын

@@TrentHamilton You don't want to annoy your mate ever!