The West Wing: Joey Lucas explains how numbers can lie to Josh

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The West Wing: Joey Lucas explains how numbers can lie to Josh

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Jonathan Crossfield

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Joey Lucas explains why you can't assume anything based on statistics.

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@Awfulwriter 3 жыл бұрын

The smile that Josh is trying so hard not to show on his face when Joey says that Donna likes him at 1:00. Bradley Whitford is such a great actor

@Tigerman1138 5 жыл бұрын

I always liked Kenny. He was just a great interpreter. He added inflection and gave Joey some good ability to come through.

@MaSeshield 4 жыл бұрын

He was also really cute

@geoffrose9647 4 жыл бұрын

"Joshua Lyman you've got the cutest little butt in politics." "Kenny, I really hope that's her saying that."

@crazyjameswaikle2695 3 жыл бұрын

Was he her actual interpreter, or was he an actor?

@Nekulturny 3 жыл бұрын

@@crazyjameswaikle2695 Hes an actual interpreter, but I don't know that he is the actresses personal interpreter outside of the show at least, but yes, hes the real deal, not just an actor.

@brontewcat 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nekulturny He was an actor as well, and he was hired for the part I believe. His name is Bill O’Brien, and he has done a lot of work with deaf theatre and the National Endowment of the Arts.

@ethansmith4503 Жыл бұрын

I find it really funny how every single one of Josh and Donna's respective love interests knew how they felt about each other before either of them knew.

@jordanverbeek5121 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought of Kenny as the professional voice and Joey's voice as the personal voice. It always made the dialogue flow for me.

@jamesgoines7663 3 жыл бұрын

'There go my people. I must find out where they are going so that I can lead them.' What a powerful and altruistic statement.

@moimeself1088 3 жыл бұрын

Altruistic? 🤔🧐

@MrErizid 10 ай бұрын

You completely missed the point. That statement is a contradiction. If you need to see where your people are going, you were never a leader in the first place.

@jamesgoines7663 10 ай бұрын

@@MrErizid didn't miss the point. She explained the point very clearly.

@Meloncov 12 жыл бұрын

I'm reasonably certain absolutely everyone in the office knew how Donna felt before Josh did. Further, I'm pretty sure Josh himself knew it, just categorically denied it.

@philledwith8307 4 жыл бұрын

I think Joey was the first person to actually call it, though. Way before everyone else.

@shihoblade 4 жыл бұрын

Josh knows but he doesnt make first moves well.

@jeremyhowell8235 3 жыл бұрын

Donna says (in another episode) that Josh feels that he puts a curse on people who he is fond of, which is why he doesn't dare to get close to them. That's why he tries to distance himself from Donna herself.

@CarlywithaY90 3 жыл бұрын

I was 7, when this series originally aired, and even I could tell they were endgame!

@rozaw4288 8 жыл бұрын

I always like to think that Josh didn't hear a word Joey said after what she said about Donna, hence the "...yeah" at the end :')

@alexanderc.4654 5 жыл бұрын

You'd be right. Subtext is everything.

@JB-xl2jc 2 жыл бұрын

Must.... resist.... joke.... about.... her... not.... speaking....

@tiff63078 6 жыл бұрын

“Believe me when I tell you that’s not true” - oh my god Josh seriously!! 😂

@talisa222 4 жыл бұрын

Joey is fucking awesome. She stole all her scenes. Such a smart and charismatic character.

@AndreAFirenze 7 жыл бұрын

a smart show with smart characters and smart actors. love TWW

@BlackDiamond2718 4 жыл бұрын

I love the quote by Mark Twain about statistics. You forget that statistics are limited because it is not viable to ask every single person and get a straight answer. Thus they do lie because they are more of a projection. It can divert people's decisions. Plus I love how these two work together.

@ashirizly 4 жыл бұрын

statistics aren't lies because you can't sample everyone (ask every person), they're often lies because it's actually pretty hard to do it correctly, and really easy to do it wrong, in a way that biases your results, and it's hard to know from the outside if the statistcs you're shown are reliable.

@BlackDiamond2718 4 жыл бұрын

@@ashirizly it is a lie in that it is not the truth. It does not represent everyone, just a few. That and the interpretations of data may possibly be incorrect. That is what i refer to as lying. Other than that, they are still effective sources of data. How we interpret that is another thing entirely.

@scotty6858 Жыл бұрын

The interpreter was an underrated addition. I think there was one point where he said, on behalf of Joey "there goes the cutest ass ever", and Josh wondered aloud about whether he was speaking for Joey, and not himself..*L*

@rcslyman8929 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh, Statistics. The Art of Lying with Numbers.

@bornbillsmith 13 жыл бұрын

She new how Donna felt about Josh way before he did. Was she the only one or were there others who also knew.

@alanr5910 3 жыл бұрын

Hello 8 years later, but Amy Gardner noticed too

@moimeself1088 3 жыл бұрын

Amy knew

@appleofmyeye7294 3 жыл бұрын

Leo knew josh liked donna

@Mekratrig 3 жыл бұрын

When Josh got shot, I think everyone knew, hence their verr grave demeanor as Toby informed her. Alslo, there was a scene, don’t know when in the timeline, where, (in criticism of her current boyfriend?) Josh tells her “If you were in the hospital, I wouldn’t stop on the way to have a beer”, and she replies “if you were in the hospital, I wouldn’t stop for red lights”. Anyone recall what episode that came from?

@anand-anshu 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mekratrig It was s2 17 people

@tmoore4075 12 жыл бұрын

@bornbillsmith The season 2 premier you could tell everyone knew how Donna felt when she came to waiting room after Josh was in surgery.

@Tigerman1138 5 жыл бұрын

Tim Moore She wouldn’t have stopped for red lights.

@darrylsmith2084 4 жыл бұрын

@@Tigerman1138 she got past all the secret service guys to get there

@mikawhofan 3 жыл бұрын

You dont seat through an entire 12 hr surgery if you're not in love with that person

@RinJackson 7 жыл бұрын

Maybe she should've talked to Scott Steiner about lying numbers...

@rmblake8465 4 жыл бұрын

Loved Joey!

@DeSwiss 13 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Politicians lead by reading poll numbers rather than understanding poll numbers. And what many people don't realize is that you can create polls that ask things in a way that deliver whatever result one is looking for. And "we the people" are manipulated in this way -- ALL THE TIME. Reliance upon polls in one's decision-making is basically the difference between a politician and a stateswo/man. And it would seem that the world is fresh outta stateswo/men.......

@Tigerman1138 5 жыл бұрын

DeSwiss Obama tried to run this nations by TelePrompTer and focus-group.

@tacoheadmakenzie9311 4 жыл бұрын

...whereas Trump tries to run it according to the answers he gets from his magic 8 ball.

@RaulieGonzo97 4 жыл бұрын

I wish they would’ve gotten together at some point

@rawwbnoles4787 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a statistics expert. I don't have a degree in statistics. However I've ran enough reports in excel over the last 12 years to know when you poll numbers over a long set of time, you should see roughly a 50/50 split in your end result numbers, averages of averages. It's when you have an outlier within your data or when data is omitted that your average of averages is off. That's how numbers can lie. Speaking to politics, that's also how you skew numbers to fit your political agenda.

@theAverageJoe25 Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure everyone knew Donna loved Josh before he did and some probably knew that he loved her before either of them did

@jonnnyren6245 3 жыл бұрын

Oooooh maayyyy gassssh Donna's like "you like Joey Lucas you should ask her out" when CLEARLY it's Joey who noticed it!!! She basically predicted Josh and Donna in Season 2 and we had to go through 5 seasons worth of romantic and sexual tension to see that come true!!! 😁😁😁😊

@moimeself1088 3 жыл бұрын

And even then, josh was still acting like a dolt. 🤦🏾‍♀️