The Westland Lysander: The British Spy and Army Co Operation Aircraft - WW2

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The Westland Lysander was Westland Aircraft's response to an 1934 Air Ministry specification calling for an army co-operation aircraft with short take-off and landing capabilities to replace the ageing Hawker Audax biplane. The rather unique looking Lysander, took to the air for the first time on the 15th of June 1936, and deliveries to the RAF began in June 1938. It saw service in France during the 1940, however was outclassed by the modern air force of Germany, suffering significant losses. The Lysander was quickly withdrawn from frontline service following the fall of France. While quickly relegated to secondary duties, it wouldn't be long before it found a new role, this time with the Special Operations Executive performing clandestine duties.. This was a role that the Lysander was quite successful in. During the war, the Lysander would also see service in Northern Africa and India/Burma. When production ended during the middle of the Second World War, 1,670 had been built.
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3 Squadron RAAF: www.3squadron.org.au/subpages...
Bharat Rakshak: The Westland Lysander - The IAF's first monoplane bomber: www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/air...
Canadian Museum of Flight: www.canadianflight.org/content...
Classic Warbirds: www.classicwarbirds.co.uk/bri...
Key.Aero: Busy 'Lizzie': www.rafweb.org/Squadrons/Sqn0...
Profile Publications: The Westland Lysander: rclibrary.co.uk/files_titles/...
RAF Web, No 16 - 20 Squadron Histories: www.rafweb.org/Squadrons/Sqn0...
RAF Web, No 26- 30 Squadron Histories: www.rafweb.org/Squadrons/Sqn0...
Rickard, J (21 November 2007), Westland Lysander: www.historyofwar.org/articles/...
Rickard, J (16 September 2008), No. 28 Squadron (RAF): Second World War: www.historyofwar.org/air/units...
Rickard, J (28 May 2008), No. 20 Squadron (RAF): Second World War: www.historyofwar.org/air/units...
Rickard, J (18 April 2008), No. 148 Squadron (RAF): Second World War: www.historyofwar.org/air/units...
Books:
The Encyclopedia of Aircraft of World War II by Paul Eden
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Chapters:
0:00 - 1:39 - Design
1:39 - 3:03 - Prototype
3:03 - 4:20 - Introduction into service (Mk.I & Mk.II)
4:20 - 5:47 - Service in France
5:47 - 5:56 - Secondary Roles
5:56 - 6:16 - Mk.III
6:16 - 7:49 - SOE Operations
7:49 - 9:30 - North Africa
9:30 - 11:42 - India and Burma
11:42 - 12:10 - Target Tugs
12:10 - 12:44 - Canadian Lysanders
12:44 - 13:40 - Foreign Operators
13:40 - 14:15 - Experimentation
14:15 - 14:50 - Conclusion

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@utrinqueparatus4617
@utrinqueparatus4617 Жыл бұрын
Around 1976, a Lysander was flying from Booker Airfield, High Wycombe. I was walking through the nearby industrial estate, with a colleague, heard a sound and, looking up, saw it apparently hovering overhead. It turned out that my companion had flown them in the War and had great liking and respect for them and told me they could fly incredibly slowly.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
That would have been a very interesting sight and your companions stories would have been very fascinating.
@steveball2307
@steveball2307 2 жыл бұрын
The Lysander has been a favourite aircraft of mine since I was a boy, not sure why but apart from it's heroic clandestine exploits there's something very endearing about the old girl.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I know what you mean👍✈️
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 Жыл бұрын
I think that it is because it is the complete opposite of a Spitfire. It is slow, ungainly looking both on the ground and in the air and with strange stubby lines it makes a Swordfish look sleek in comparison. I think that the secret night Ops adds to attraction because it is the only plane that can sneak over to France, drop down into a secret landing site in a field, drop off an agent and supplies, pick up a passenger or two, take off from the field, sneak out of France and back over the Channel to England. Sure other aircraft would have stuff to do at night but none would land in Occupied Territory. On Moonlit nights, only the Lysander had the sky all to itself. Mark from Melbourne Australia
@johnf3f810
@johnf3f810 2 жыл бұрын
Opening credits shows Lysander LX M, my dad flew in that aircraft when he was in 225 Squadron! He was a Doctor in the RAF in WW2 so could get a few joy rides, and he got one in that plane! Wish he was still here to tell more of his experiences, but like most veterans I think he just wanted to put the war behind him. Still it is nice to see it on film.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting and fascinating to hear. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️
@robbudden
@robbudden 2 жыл бұрын
That is super cool.
@audacity60
@audacity60 2 жыл бұрын
My late father did one mission by Lysander. He was called to the Rubens hotel in London, then driven to an airfield in a blacked out lorry, so he did not know which one. He then flew as a passenger to France, while sitting on a box of dynamite. They landed at night & hid the plane. He spent the day teaching ex Polish soldiers, who had attached themselves to French Resistance, how to use a radio, so they could contact London. Then he flew back that night.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting and fascinating. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely it was Tempsford. An airfield so secret that the anti-aircraft defences could only fire back if attacked first.
@keithfarrell7638
@keithfarrell7638 Жыл бұрын
Would love to hear more.
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 Жыл бұрын
If the dynamite goes off while you are in the plane, it probably doesn’t make a lot of difference if you are sitting on it or not. But you would still be a bit nervous about it.
@PassportToPimlico
@PassportToPimlico 2 жыл бұрын
What do you compare the Lysander with? The Storch? The Lysander was a much bigger and more powerful machine. It had a good range and was surprisingly fast. To be able to fly from the UK, to Southern France, land in a field and then return the same night, all within the hours of darkness was a pretty unique property. Those same abilities and the good visibility meant that it was a pretty effective air-sea rescue plane, too.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
The Storch would be most likely the closet thing to compare it to. As an SOE machine, the Lysander no doubt excelled.
@AbelMcTalisker
@AbelMcTalisker Жыл бұрын
What about the Henschel Hs 126? Probably a better comparison. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hdeWeJudl7_LcaM.html
@PassportToPimlico
@PassportToPimlico Жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow The closest thing in British service to the Storch would be the Auster.
@topivaltanen4432
@topivaltanen4432 Жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow I wouldnt fancy land in enemy terrain at darkness.
@Rickinsf
@Rickinsf 3 ай бұрын
Maybe the Curtiss O-52 "Owl?"
@orwellboy1958
@orwellboy1958 2 жыл бұрын
I swear the airfix model is harder to construct than the real think.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't built a Lysander before, but I could imagine it would have something interesting shapes involved.
@randallpinkfloyd7225
@randallpinkfloyd7225 2 жыл бұрын
Great Army Co-op Plane! Did wonderful work with the French Resistance for sure! Great video as always!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
It was indeed. The work with the French Resistance was significant and extremely important. Thank you 👍✈️
@SvenTviking
@SvenTviking 2 жыл бұрын
SOE used to train agents in my village at a large house on the high street. They used a large field to practice agents landing and pickup using Lysanders.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting and fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
@margareteadie8941
@margareteadie8941 8 ай бұрын
Just looks right,for its place and time,but is an odd plane.punched well above its weight,brave pilots
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 8 ай бұрын
It is a different looking aircraft, but in the right role it certainly did excel.
@gbentley8176
@gbentley8176 2 жыл бұрын
My late father instructed a few Polish pilots on these. Apparently it was a rush do and he had to do a quick familiarisation before the trainees arrived. He said it was just what had to be done in wartime UK. Nice video.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
That is really interesting. Quite fascinating. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️
@georgebarnes8163
@georgebarnes8163 Жыл бұрын
My Grandfather also trained the Poles in these aircraft based at Newtownards airfield in Northern Ireland before he moved to the big Sunderlands flying out of Castle Archedale on the Atlantic patrols, the Poles later moved to Ballyhalbert airfield and formed 303 squadron.
@salvagedb2470
@salvagedb2470 Жыл бұрын
Always have a soft spot for the " Lizzie " , great Model to build..
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
That's fair. With all the unique characteristics of the design, I could imagine it would of been good fun to build 👍✈
@TheQuestionMarkWasEmphasized
@TheQuestionMarkWasEmphasized 2 жыл бұрын
Always thought this was a good-looking plane. Nice to see a new video from you.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it isn't a bad looking aircraft. Quite unique looking. Thanks, good to publish a new video finally. Life's been a little hectic the last month, so I had to sideline this video briefly. However, things have quietened down, so there should be quite a few new videos on their way 👍✈️
@savagecub
@savagecub 3 ай бұрын
Great pics ! Really well done !
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍✈
@grahamwood9428
@grahamwood9428 Жыл бұрын
I,m sure I saw 2 of these flying at Duxford airshow 20 years or so ago. They purred around the sky.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
That would have been a great sight to see
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 8 ай бұрын
When I was in the UK fire brigade 20 or so years back, one afternoon I was fitting smoke detectors in the house of an elderly gentleman. While I was filling in the necessary "paperwork" I spotted the familiar blue and white diagonal ribbon of a "Distinguished Flying Cross" framed on a wall of his living room. When I asked him who the DFC had been awarded to, his eyes opened wide with surprise that I would know what it was. He then told me how in 1939 as a Lysander pilot in RAF No.2 Sqd, he had flown observation missions over the French/Belgian border during the 1939/40 "Phoney war". He then told me how in early june 1940 his squadron then got orders at short notice to evacuate to the UK. He said that the last 8 airworthy lysanders took off from north eastern France to hop at low level over the English channel, and that during the flight they had been attacked by Me109s. He had managed to evade multiple 109 attacks, and his rear gunner even managed to send one of the attackers banking away with smoke streaming from it. When they arrived in the UK only 4 of the aircraft had made it, the other 4 aircraft and their crews were lost in the channel. It is quite possible that that footage of the Lysander going down was one of his squadron mates. He said he later flew SOE operatives into and out of France during the German occupation and was awarded the DFC in 1944. Just a little, white haired old man in his 80s.... and yet an outright absolute bloody HERO. God bless his memory.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 7 ай бұрын
That is very interesting and fascinating to read. Quite remarkable. They were brave men, Lest we forget
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 4 ай бұрын
Thanks really well researched and well presented . Enjoying your stuff mate ❤
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, great to hear 👍✈️
@ColinH1973
@ColinH1973 2 жыл бұрын
What a great aircraft. It's difficult to think of another aeroplane that could have undertaken the operations that the Lysander did so successfully. Thanks for the interesting vid.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. Especially its role as an SOE aircraft. I don't think I know of a British aircraft that had the STOL capabilities of the Lysander. Most likely would of require a new design. 👍✈️
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 Жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow “would have required “
@alexhayden2303
@alexhayden2303 Жыл бұрын
Last one I saw was at RAF Detling, 1952 It came in as I was cycling across the 'field: I have never pedalled so fast!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Nice, that would of been a good sight to see
@Rickinsf
@Rickinsf 3 ай бұрын
I like how the pilot sits so high.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 3 ай бұрын
👍✈
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 Жыл бұрын
You are a twenty year old pilot. You cannot boast about being a fighter pilot or a bomber pilot. You cannot talk about what you do at all. You operate from an airfield that does not exist. At night, you get into your Lysander. Behind is a civilian-looking person. You are not allowed to know who that person is. You take off . You have to find a small field in France. Your navigation equipment is a map and a compass, but you have hardly any light to see them. You have to look for landmarks on the ground while hoping the Germans don’t spot you. You find and land on a tiny field in France. (Are the people waiting for you resistance or Gestapo?) Your passenger gets out, and another gets in. You take off as soon as you can, to find your way back. And when you go to the pub the next day, you get no admiration. People think you just do a bit of coastal surveillance.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
It is quite remarkable and incredible what these pilots had to go through and yet get no recognition for it. They were brave men. Lest we forget
@TannithVQ
@TannithVQ 2 жыл бұрын
Nice one. I really enjoyed this look at an old favourite of mine
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍✈️
@mitchellminer9597
@mitchellminer9597 Жыл бұрын
General Lysander would be proud ... and probably less odd-looking. That is deffo a functional shape. I like it lots. That double-tailed version is amazing.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Yes I'm sure he would be. The Lysander was quite an important asset for the SOE. It is rather odd, but it did the job. It is quite a fascinating modification
@robertpearson8798
@robertpearson8798 Жыл бұрын
The Canadian built Lysander at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum was restored to flying condition a number of years ago but after an accident it's being restored to static display. I was told by a member that the Bristol XX engine powering it is just too unreliable to trust for flying such an old and relatively rare aircraft.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's fair. It does get to a point where the risk of flying such aircraft becomes to great. Especially if it is a rarer example.
@Britlurker
@Britlurker 2 жыл бұрын
The radial engine, the big canopy with the pilot sitting high up is, to me, very reminiscent of US WW2 carrier planes.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
It does a little.
@Liberator74
@Liberator74 Жыл бұрын
Great film!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍✈️
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 4 ай бұрын
There is still an airworthy Lysander at shuttleworh in Hertfordshire . Sometimes it's flying at there air shows
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 3 ай бұрын
Nice, I would love to see that one day 👍✈️
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 2 жыл бұрын
Both the 'p' and the 's' are silent in the pronunciation of the word 'Corps', so it sounds like 'Core'. Add an 'e' to it however, and you get your 'corpse'.
@redlioness6627
@redlioness6627 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao.
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 4 ай бұрын
Two videos in and im subscribed. So so much better than darl skies ❤
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, appreciate it 👍✈️
@24934637
@24934637 2 жыл бұрын
Massive upgrade from the Audax!! Far better for the job!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed.
@martinsaunders2942
@martinsaunders2942 Жыл бұрын
What was the purpose of the small window / viewing port, on the fuselage under the forward part of the vertical stabiliser?
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
I'm honestly not sure. Possibly to put a camera in or carry stores.
@tbjtbj7930
@tbjtbj7930 Жыл бұрын
Possibly to allow the rear control cables to be checked. Note how its at head height for groundcrew.
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 жыл бұрын
I have been hoping that someone would take a relatively in depth look at this most quirky and really (I think) cute aircraft. Thank you Tomato...and you get a sub out of it to boot
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 2 жыл бұрын
and because of the way I do that sort of thing, 2 views, and the revenue from 2 sets of ads
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, appreciate it 👍✈️
@garyhewitt489
@garyhewitt489 2 жыл бұрын
They're really quite a large aircraft, as was the swordfish.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen one in person yet, but from pictures they look oddly big.
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 жыл бұрын
Used in the Battle of Calais to bring in supplies.
@alanhutchins5916
@alanhutchins5916 2 жыл бұрын
The black version.. ' G model' I think.... was literally the first stealth plane
@wdguild1
@wdguild1 Жыл бұрын
This was a very adaptable aircraft and well researched presentation, unfortunately spoilt by the presenters diction.
@SuperHeatherMorris
@SuperHeatherMorris 2 жыл бұрын
Just a small point, the automatic slats and flaps were triggered by angle of attack (incidence to Americans) and not airspeed. They are different things.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes correct. Thanks for the pick up. A lot of my sources just described it as the speed and I believe that is where I would of gotten confused. They are related and speed no doubt influences it. 👍✈️
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow G'day, Um..., if you look up a YT Channel called, Blancolirio he has done many explanations of why AIRSPEED is in fact totally IRRELEVANT to precipitating an Aerodynamic Stall...; The ONLY factor which matters is the Angle of Impingement ("Attack") at which the Oncoming Airstream meets the Wing's Chord-Line. You might have a "true Airspeed " of 4 times the published "Stall Speed" of your Aircraft - but if the Angle Off Attack is beyond that at which the Wing Stalls (15° to 17.5° - ish), then it will simply succumb to a High-Speed Stall. The quirky part of the Lysander's Wing's High-Lift Devices..., for which you appear to have been grasping, is that the Pilot had NO Control over the deployment of either Slats, or Flaps...(!). It was ALL Automatic. As the AOA increased, the Airflow began to Suck the Slats off the Wing Leading Edges, opening the Slots, and as the Slat moved out from the L.E...., and there were Control Linkages which then used the Slats moving against Spring Tension - to deploy the Flaps... And thus, as the Nose came up the Slats opened themselves, and as they did then they lowered the Flaps....; put the Nose down, and as the AOA reduced then the Slots closed up under Spring Pressure, pulling the Flaps up as well. So I read in both Aeroplane Monthly magazine feature Articles, and the Pilot's Cockpit Notes... It must have been very strange - until one became used to it... By the way, if you backtrack me to my Videos, last week I posted a reunion and pilgrimage. "National Transportation Museum...; Visiting My First Aeroplane !" A relic of back when Oz really did lead the World - in Minimum Aircraft. You should get a good giggle out of it (?) ! Enjoy ? Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@beb5816
@beb5816 2 жыл бұрын
@@WarblesOnALot Goodonya mate. I've learnt something.
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 2 жыл бұрын
@@beb5816 G'day, Thanks mate ! No worries....; I like sharing whatever interesting snippets I happen to have collected, with anybody who might be interested...., so you're very welcome... Enjoy ! Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
​@@WarblesOnALot Yes that is very true. Thank you for sharing these quite in depth notes. They really add a lot of depth and information. Only about two months ago, I did my first flying lesson on stalling. My instructor heavily emphasized that speed won't stall the aircraft, angle of attack is what does. That lesson was also the first time I threw up in an aircraft😂 I saw that video and a very interesting watch. It was also interesting to see the changes to the aircraft that the museum had made. 👍✈ (P.S Sorry for the quite delayed reply, sometimes I miss one or two and don't realize. )
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video....THANKS....SHOE🇺🇸
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍✈️
@sergeipohkerova7211
@sergeipohkerova7211 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the kind of plane where you drag it backwards on the kitchen tile thenit shoots forward. Or the kind with a saddle on top for the toddler to ride.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought of it like that, but now you've mentioned it I see what you mean. Quite a unique looking aircraft.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 2 жыл бұрын
They are big aircraft when you stand next to one and the pilot sits high above the ground. It was both advanced and outdated at the same time but as he says its ability to STOL and operate from grass fields and stay airborne for a long time as a liaison and spotting aircraft meant it found its niche in history.. Westland went on to become one of the UK's principle helicopter manufacturers postwar to current. Its a favourite of flying and display modellers... usually in its SOE ops. night colours. Theres a nice cockpit video of a taxi and takeoff from a runway and landing of a restored Lizzy... On U tube.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had the chance to see one in person, but I could imagine it is quite a significant sized machine. I find the technology utilized in the aircraft quite fascinating because as you highlight it was advance but both outdated. It modern, but it wasn't, perhaps unique technology. Nevertheless this technology gave it good STOL capabilities. I know of the video, and reckon its great a watch for anyone interested in the aircraft. Gives great insight into flying the plane. The same guy has a few other videos of the same style with different warbirds. Make some interesting viewing.
@johnsmith-rs2vk
@johnsmith-rs2vk Жыл бұрын
The hedge hopper .
@robertwalker7457
@robertwalker7457 2 жыл бұрын
88 shot down, 30destroyed on the ground and 50 returned makes 168 not 174. Did I miss a bit?? Very interesting watch thank you.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
That is very true and to be honest I am not sure. Quite often these statistics are a massed from a variety of sources. However I can confirm that sources agree that 118 of the type were lost. Being war there can also be some confusion over precise numbers. I have found with other types that statistics don't always add up exactly. Thanks 👍✈️
@brucelamberton8819
@brucelamberton8819 Жыл бұрын
@Tomato Eins you need to work on your pronunciations; for example, 'corps' is pronounced as "cor". Other than this, the content in your videos is very good.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
I am aware of it and working hard to improve my pronunciation. Thanks for the feedback, it helps me improve 👍✈️
@indyjones1970
@indyjones1970 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. BTW, Clan-de-stine!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yep whoops, I'll get it next time 👍✈️
@indyjones1970
@indyjones1970 Жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow Sorry, l'm litetally an English teacher. It's an occupational hazard!
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
@@indyjones1970 👍✈
@otpyrcralphpierre1742
@otpyrcralphpierre1742 2 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that radial engines were all odd number cylinders, unless double rowed.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it would seem so.
@christophergallagher531
@christophergallagher531 Жыл бұрын
Looks like it would have made a good submarine hunter !
@chardtomp
@chardtomp 2 жыл бұрын
One of many WW2 era aircraft that was essentially obsolete in its intended role as soon as it entered service. It was lucky to find a niche role where it could still perform well.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. The Defiant was another such aircraft that had similar circumstances.
@peterasp1968
@peterasp1968 Жыл бұрын
And the Fairey Battle.
@mikecritchlow1114
@mikecritchlow1114 2 жыл бұрын
LySander! There is no letter Z in Lysander... Good grief! Ly-sand-er!
@redlioness6627
@redlioness6627 2 жыл бұрын
LOL, the amount of videos on pootoob that are narrated by either lazy speakers, people with seriously bad speech impediments or just people who do zero research into pronunciations is incredibly vast, it's such a great pity as many of the videos contain great content and are potentially learning tools for generations to come. Sadly, generations to come will for the most part learn from people that cannot pronounce things correctly and eventually we shall zee duh ejukayschun zyztum tern 2 schyt! The thing is, there are an ever increasing amount of folk with mental illnesses, autism, physical disabilities which affects their ability to speak properly or just folk with simple speech impediments or speech defects and in any number of these such like issues their confidence to communicate with others will be badly affected. And so youtube has become a great platform for such people to express themselves by offering them the ability to better communicate with the wider World as a whole, and that is a great thing, well for them it is, and for many viewers too as they do often have seriously interesting things to say even if they say them badly. Sadly it is not a great thing for those who are more sensitive or intolerant of piss poor pronunciation or presentation, let's cut the lad some slack, it could have been worse I guess, he could have been American too!
@artrandy
@artrandy 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true, but the amount of WW2 ground crew that gave a toss for a Spartan leader or the Peloponnesian war at all, were probably minimal. Ex public school 'bods' might have got excited about it, but pronouncing it with a 'z', although lazy, would also be true to the spirit of the majority familiar with this type in the RAF. So for me, either pronunciation is correct. In WW1, Ypres was pronounced phonetically by the average Tommy, as 'Wipers'. Do we honour the memory of 'real men', some ill educated, some not, that gave their lives for all our freedoms in both world wars, by petulantly correcting what would have often been their pronunciation, as if one were the proverbial 'stuffed shirt'..............?
@charlesfitton9677
@charlesfitton9677 2 жыл бұрын
I cant find anything...is that a window by the tail? Why?
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure either, and can't find any info. Possibly to put cameras in.
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 2 жыл бұрын
What is a Yunkins 87?
@beb5816
@beb5816 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a Junkers
@tedsmith6137
@tedsmith6137 2 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Lysander be pronounced with an 's'. not a 'z'?
@stop-the-greed
@stop-the-greed 4 ай бұрын
It was never called liezander but ly sander Lysander . Nick name Lizzie . I guess you have a spech impediment . I mean no disrespect . As always a great video 👍
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 3 ай бұрын
I try my best with pronouciation but often get one or two wrong words wrong. The reason I went with Liezander was that I watched a video on it and thought that's how it was pronounced. Turned out I had misheard them 😬 Thank you 👍✈️
@hughsmith2657
@hughsmith2657 2 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced lie 'sand' er not zander
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Apologies. I try my best to get it correct, but sometimes I just can't get rid of my own spin on the word.
@redlioness6627
@redlioness6627 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow It's a name not a word!
@kevelliott
@kevelliott 2 жыл бұрын
6:30 Que? Japanese officers?
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there is Japanese officers in the image. It is from the Australian War Memorial and this is the caption that accompanies it. "Rangoon, Burma, c. 1945-08. Three Japanese soldiers stand beside Westland Lysander IIIA V9303 of No. 357 Special Duties (SD) Squadron RAF at Mingaladon airfield. Two RAF crewmen, including a flight lieutenant (right), are aboard the aircraft preparing it for flight, while another RAF crewman stands to the rear of the Japanese soldiers. The aircraft is about to fly the Japanese to remote areas of Burma where they will be parachuted in to Japanese forces who have not yet surrendered in order to tell them that the war has ended. The Japanese will make their parachute jump from the ladder attached to the side of the aircraft. Because of the long distance the aircraft has to travel, an auxiliary fuel tank has been fitted to the underside of its fuselage. (Donor W. Mulford) (Original print held in AWM Archive Store)"
@kevelliott
@kevelliott 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow That's really interesting, thanks!
@kevelliott
@kevelliott 2 жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow That's really interesting, thanks!
@richardj9016
@richardj9016 2 жыл бұрын
Pronounced Ly Sander
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 Жыл бұрын
Rugged and tuff looking aircraft. Bush plane no doubt.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Has that look to it . Also has the abilities that would make it a good bush plane
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 Жыл бұрын
Coulda been a blueprint.
@frankwilkinson6328
@frankwilkinson6328 2 жыл бұрын
Its LySander not LyZander.
@AbelMcTalisker
@AbelMcTalisker Жыл бұрын
For that matter it`s AW-dax not ad-AX.
@Belzediel
@Belzediel Ай бұрын
...did someone just set your voice to sarcastic and you don't know how to switch it back?
@WoBlink1961
@WoBlink1961 Жыл бұрын
An interesting video, spoiled for me by the many mispronunciations; 'Lyzander' instead of Lysander, 'Crate' instead of Crete, 'Henshkle' instead of Henschel, 'Corpse' instead of Corps and the absolute howler (repeated many times in this vid) of 'Cladsteen' instead of clandestine (klan - DESS - tyne). These are not just national or regional variation in pronunciations!!!!
@Li-brus
@Li-brus Жыл бұрын
This plane is as nasty as my mother-in-law... And he's just as grumpy
@lesleybarclay3085
@lesleybarclay3085 Жыл бұрын
Come guys, stop all this crap about diction, we were all different, but fought together against the same enemy. My late uncle, Fred Weston DFC and bar, was a tail gunner on several different heavy bomber types, towards the end of the war he flew clandestine missions to France in Lysanders, heaven knows what they got up to, he never spoke about it to me.
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
That is very interesting. They were brave men. Lest we forget, RIP
@wintersbattleofbands1144
@wintersbattleofbands1144 2 жыл бұрын
Don't use words you can't pronounce, like "clandestine" and "primarily."
@WilHenDavis
@WilHenDavis Жыл бұрын
Good info. …but that accent! uggggghhhhh! Thanks for sharing, anyway! ;)
@bigbadboo659
@bigbadboo659 Жыл бұрын
fucking loving your videos content always spot on
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍✈️
@bigbadboo659
@bigbadboo659 Жыл бұрын
@@AntiqueAirshow I'm just speaking the truth mate
@AntiqueAirshow
@AntiqueAirshow Жыл бұрын
@@bigbadboo659 Thanks 👍✈
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